Open Thread – Tuesday 17 August 2021

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  1. struth says:
    August 25, 2021 at 12:41 pm

    How will the dynamic change completely?

    Honest question.


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  4. thefrollickingmole says:
    August 25, 2021 at 12:46 pm

    Suburbs Karloo

    Number of Dwellings.    226

    Number of Burglaries 48

    Ratio  21.24%

     

    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/50b0d42ce4b07246015066ea/t/55a6c361e4b0e1dc20a7f599/1436992353327/Crime+Comparison+Statistics.pdf

     

    It is the single highest crime area in Western Australia.

    The worst Perth suburb has a ratio of…. 6.89%

     

    Its so bad people waiting for public housing refuse to go there.

     

     


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  5. Terry Pedersen says:
    August 25, 2021 at 12:54 pm

    “Can’t be bothered with manual html.”

    ************************************

    Manual html doesn’t work either. Not since the buttons were added to the comment box.

    If it did, or if the buttons worked, I could have made my now deleted late last night comment much clearer.


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  6. Bar Beach Swimmer says:
    August 25, 2021 at 12:55 pm

    Old bloke:

    <i>Agree with that, it would be good to disappear with a caravan to a deserted beach somewhere, live on freshly caught fish and ignore the world for a while. I’ll need a caravan first though, where’s Custard?</i>

    Old bloke, I’ve been musing on this for quite a while.  Especially this increasing interest in off-road-way-out-back-travel underpinned by almost complete self-sufficiency, which speaks to a general desire to be left alone.

    I’ve never been interested in caravanning but if we got the right gear I think I could take to it, just to get away from all these dictators.  Close the place up and go…

    I suppose one happy thought to go on with is that the roads and camping places will be emptied once all those jabs kick in! (For the resident trolls, that was black humour).


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  7. Figures says:
    August 25, 2021 at 12:59 pm

    “Don’t make the mistake of thinking Australians are more rational than the Hutus.”

     

    Are you kidding? The percentage of Hutus who believe there are 80,000 genders is zero. That alone makes them infinitely more rational than Australians.


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  8. Farmer Gez says:
    August 25, 2021 at 1:02 pm

    TaliDan & The Lockdowns are selling vaccine tickets for a VCE jab jive.

    Only if they can get the gear to peddle from the Feds to the kiddies though.

    Vaccine supply politics alive & kicking.


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  9. srr says:
    August 25, 2021 at 1:14 pm

    “nilk — Today at 12:58
    https://discord.com/channels/870154322476945408/870209705367175178/879922576904814622
    Hmm. Just heard that TNT, FedEx, Toll and StarTrack have approved the stop work action next week for the truckies. That came from a driver.”


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  10. Bar Beach Swimmer says:
    August 25, 2021 at 1:15 pm

    <i>Are you kidding? The percentage of Hutus who believe there are 80,000 genders is zero. That alone makes them infinitely more rational than Australians</i>

    Figures, that wins for today!


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  12. Crossie says:
    August 25, 2021 at 1:32 pm

    We have become a butt of the world’s jokes for our lockdown insanity.  There is a manhunt for a man who sneezed in a  lift.  We are not allowed to watch a sunset.   We are urged bit to speak to our neighbours.

     

    Then there is the reports on rescue dogs being shot to keep people from travelling to adopt them.  That has actually caused revulsion.

    Great going, every one of our corrupt politicians.  What took Paul Hogan years to build in the way of overseas tourist advertising and with his movies, these absolute horrors have destroyed in a few weeks.


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  13. thefrollickingmole says:
    August 25, 2021 at 1:34 pm

    Im not saying he should be forcibly injected with battery acid in the testicles, then made to drink the festering residue before being thrown in a pit to starve to death.

    But if it were to happen Id buy the person doing so a beer.

     

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/25/australia-entered-afghanistan-as-bullies-and-left-as-cowards-but-we-the-people-can-do-better

     

    Suck a fuckstick, one of his wails is “by ignoring cultural norms”, well ben of little brain, cultural norms are exactly what the people of Afghanistan are having restored to them.

    The sheer idiocy of people saying ‘we must respect their ways” and then being surprised when they revert to those norms is pathological.


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  14. Chris says:
    August 25, 2021 at 1:38 pm

    Wow, buttons above!

    Are you kidding? The percentage of Hutus who believe there are 80,000 genders is zero. That alone makes them infinitely more rational than Australians.

     

    Sad. The herd mentality is amazing, no herd immunity against it.

     

    Speaking of which, the articles on the ABC in this mornings Oz look ugly. If we are going to have their ABC running such consistent false propaganda as they have, ‘we’ need to establish a moral case to not watch or use the ABC and try to make it go viral.

     

     


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  16. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:
    August 25, 2021 at 1:43 pm

    There is a manhunt for a man who sneezed in a  lift.
    Then there is the reports on rescue dogs being shot to keep people from travelling to adopt them.
    ___________________________

    Both of those are incomplete information & extreme over egging of the pudding.

    The “Don’t watch the sunset or you’ll end up in hospital” & “Don’t talk to your neighbours” are bang on the money.

    Alas overseas viewers are blaming the whole country for the actions of a few Premiers & CHOs jammed into one small corner of the country.

    I’m somewhat disappointed in Tucker Carlson & Ron De Santis.  They should be well aware of the separation between state & federal, and both of them should know bluddee well that the Army assistance (while unpalatable to many in Australia) is neither “Martial Law in Australia” nor is it “Law enforced at bayonet point”


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  17. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:
    August 25, 2021 at 1:46 pm

    … the articles on the ABC in this mornings Oz look ugly. If we are going to have their ABC running such consistent false propaganda as they have, ‘we’ need to establish a moral case to not watch or use the ABC and try to make it go viral.
    __________________________

    Not only is Their ABC looking unhinged with these Trump episodes, there’s not even a tangential bit of relevance to Australia or for Australian audiences.


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  18. Old School Conservative says:
    August 25, 2021 at 1:50 pm

    I like what he has to say (language).

    I’ve been reflecting on my increasing use of foul language recently.

    I put it down to frustration with our politicians and the effects of lockdown, especially not being able to see family and friends.

    However the main reason is my inability to change the major problems we face, in particular the totalitarian rules set by Premiers.

    I guess I should just harden the fuck up.


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  19. mh says:
    August 25, 2021 at 1:53 pm

    ‘Great going, every one of our corrupt politicians.  What took Paul Hogan years to build in the way of overseas tourist advertising and with his movies, these absolute horrors have destroyed in a few weeks.’
    ***

    My sister rang me up a couple of weeks back from the UK. I asked about the large extended family in the UK and had any of them ever got sick or died from Covid. She went around the block a couple of times before telling me the answer – NIL.

    I then told her about the Covidians of Australia. She texted me the next day to say thanks for telling her about Australia.


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  21. Old School Conservative says:
    August 25, 2021 at 2:00 pm

    Salvatore.

    In what way is this SMH report “incomplete information & extreme over egging of the pudding.”?

     

    “Several impounded dogs due to be rescued by a shelter have instead been shot dead by a rural council in NSW under its interpretation of COVID-19 restrictions, alarming animal activists and prompting a government probe.

    Bourke Shire Council, in the state’s north-west, killed the dogs to prevent volunteers at a Cobar-based animal shelter from travelling to pick up the animals last week, according to council’s watchdog, the Office of Local Government.”

    Looks horrible to me and all the media outlets who also reported the same incident.


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  22. incoherent rambler says:
    August 25, 2021 at 2:03 pm

    I’ve been reflecting on my increasing use of foul language recently.

    ===========

    Fuck no. Don’t worry about it, just let it all out.


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  23. a reader says:
    August 25, 2021 at 2:03 pm

    mh…similar conversation with a close friend in the UK. She was staggered and gobsmacked because even London in the worst of it didn’t have this insanity.


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  24. Rorschach says:
    August 25, 2021 at 2:05 pm

    <i>It is going to get ugly very soon. Someone will snap and cops will die.</i>

    I suspect that it will not be cops that die.  Australians will not do that.  But it’ll be a “protester” that dies.  Either some fool that throws a brick at the cops, or more likely, the innocent next to the provocateur.  And if the protests continue – rinse and repeat.

    Cops know that you can blow away “right wing” protesters – like Ashley Babbit – with impunity.  And it has a desired effect: No more protests!


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  25. Old School Conservative says:
    August 25, 2021 at 2:07 pm

    BBS.

    The olden days of Sinc’s Cat had a typing box and a separate Preview box.

    Those days are gone, just like honourable politicians, truthful Health Officers, larrikin Aussies, legitimate US elections, and police enforcement done with the support of the population.


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  26. Crossie says:
    August 25, 2021 at 2:10 pm

    Sal, I agree with you about too much being made of some of those things however, it’s our own media that made it sound worse than it is.  I also can’t blame the rest of the world’s media for picking it up and blowing it up further, that’s how the world works.  It’s our governments who are without sense.  I expected better from Scotty from marketing.


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  27. thefrollickingmole says:
    August 25, 2021 at 2:19 pm

    Retry comment….

     

    Im not saying he should be forcibly injected with battery acid in the testicles, then made to drink the festering residue before being thrown in a pit to starve to death.

    But if it were to happen Id buy the person doing so a beer.

     

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/25/australia-entered-afghanistan-as-bullies-and-left-as-cowards-but-we-the-people-can-do-better

     

    Such a moron, one of his wails is “by ignoring cultural norms”, well Ben of little brain, cultural norms are exactly what the people of Afghanistan are having restored to them.

    The sheer idiocy of people saying ‘we must respect their ways” and then being surprised when they revert to those norms is pathological.


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  28. Vicki says:
    August 25, 2021 at 2:25 pm

    “Does anyone know the truth about this? If correct it is being kept very quiet!

    ttps://prwire.com.au/pr/91367/ivermectin-triple-therapy-protocol-for-covid-19-released-to-australian-gps-as-treatment-for-infected-elderly-and-frontline-workers?fbclid=IwAR0zqcP-yXtHRlD5aQR-qH3Q92PtyQP_ggw4wEj8OFzcj3RFezSTeozIXTA#.YSTkJtQq-dI.twitter”

    Yes, I do know the truth. The “August” date of the press release was AUGUST 2020! Many have been disappointed when they come across the link, only to find it did not come to pass.

    It promised so much, and came to naught, as far as I know. Borody had nailed it, but forces too great were opposed to it, and we know why.

    I recall that Borody intended to go to the USA to get his triple therapy produced in a triple blister pack for marketing. I guess Big Pharma would have none of that!


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  29. Vicki says:
    August 25, 2021 at 2:32 pm

    “Obviously, if you are in a cohort that is now known to get seriously ill, you would consider vaccination to protect yourself .”

    You might consider that, Calli, or you might consider that the vaccination itself might make you seriously ill.

    And further, you might consider, considering the statistics provided by OS (providing far greater data than the small sample in Australia so far) , that there is, in fact, very little chance of becoming seriously ill with COVID.


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  30. Cold-Hands says:
    August 25, 2021 at 2:35 pm

    Brislurker says:
    August 25, 2021 at 12:43 pm

    Does anyone know the truth about this? If correct it is being kept very quiet!

    ttps://prwire.com.au/pr/91367/ivermectin-triple-therapy-protocol-for-covid-19-released-to-australian-gps-as-treatment-for-infected-elderly-and-frontline-workers?

    Isn’t this just Professor Borody’s press release from last year? That’s when he first recommended Ivermectin triple therapy.


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  31. Terry Pedersen says:
    August 25, 2021 at 2:46 pm

    “Does anyone know the truth about this? If correct it is being kept very quiet!

    …

    Isn’t this just Professor Borody’s press release from last year? That’s when he first recommended Ivermectin triple therapy.”

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    <a href=”https://www.tga.gov.au/media-release/risks-importing-ivermectin-treatment-covid-19>Ivermectin is Not Approved for the Treatment of COVID-19</a>


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  32. Terry Pedersen says:
    August 25, 2021 at 2:48 pm

    <a href=”https://www.tga.gov.au/media-release/risks-importing-ivermectin-treatment-covid-19″>Ivermectin is Not Approved for the Treatment of COVID-19</a>


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  33. calli says:
    August 25, 2021 at 2:49 pm

    I understand all that Vicki.  That’s why I said “might consider”.

    Not rushing around with your hair on fire begging for a jab, or berating others for not getting it, or whinging because none is available.

    I have other reasons for not getting AZ and my age group precludes me from getting anything else, if I so desired.  I utterly reject the idea of mandating vaccination, or segregating or refusing service to the unvaxxed – it’s disgusting and inhumane and evil.

    Already I see our social structures falling on either side of the vaccination divide – this is a potential fault line that will split society.  While idiots are pointing at distraction squirrels like race and gender, this thing is gaining a real and lethal foothold.


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  34. Vicki says:
    August 25, 2021 at 2:50 pm

    This, from “American Thinker” yesterday. (Author: Terry Paulding):

    Way back in January, I wrote an article here titled Munchausen by (government) proxy.  I felt that we were on the wrong track — and that was before we started our mass vaccination drive.  Munchausen by proxy is a mental illness diagnosis, where the caregiver convinces someone that he is ill, then takes control over his life.

    I personally think I called it correctly — and if you look at places like Australia, where totalitarian lockdowns have become commonplace, it’s hard to call that anything but a mental illness sapping those in charge of all common sense.  There’s a secondary mental health condition called Stockholm syndrome.  It’s where someone, generally someone taken hostage, starts to identify with the captors.  An emotional bond forms.  Seeing the abject fear and dependence on government and the willingness to give up basic rights among many people, I think this applies as well.

    It’s disturbing to see our cities rush to ban unvaccinated people from living their lives.  The relentless pressure to get the jab will be even more fierce.  For those of us unwilling to be guinea pigs, life could get even more difficult.

    One thing I want to note before ending.  Despite the continual barrage of scare porn from the government and the press, if you want to see what the reality is with COVID infections and deaths, check this site.  It’s kept up to date.  You might be shocked at how few people are dying from COVID right now.


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  35. Grigory M says:
    August 25, 2021 at 3:05 pm

    Like this Terry P:

    Ivermectin is Not Approved for the Treatment of COVID-19

    The LINK button does work. Click on it and enter the link address details.

    Cheers


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  36. cohenite says:
    August 25, 2021 at 3:12 pm

    Bongino’s episode today has a segment where a beautiful conservative black lady confronts an absolute skank of a liberal cow, purple hair, bald on one side, nose rings and about 200lb of excess shiny, white fat, protesting in favour of BLM and against white supremacy.

    The black lady notes that not all women matter, only women who are prepared to be victims and tokens for the BLM commies. The skank can’t get away quick enough.

    And that’s what it’s going to take: the victims, black Americans, 3rd nations here, calling out the racism and sexism of these lefties. Some call this racism soft racism because it implies blacks are helpless without the patronising help of these lefties. But I don’t think its soft at all; I think its insidious because it allows the left to keep the blacks in their place as victims and perpetuate the hideous living conditions they endure in the US and here. As Candice Owens and Jacinta Price say it infantilises the blacks, insults them and keeps them in this victimhood trap.

    The left are filth:

    Ep. 1590 The Intell On The Ground In Afghanistan Is Getting Worse – The Dan Bongino Show (rumble.com)

     


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  37. Lizzie of Sydney says:
    August 25, 2021 at 3:15 pm

    “Sorry, not buying your insincere opposition to a passport.”

    Struth, I made clear that I am against mandatory vaxxes and vaccine passports for any purposes within Australia.  Nothing ‘insincere’ about my opposition there.

    As for a vaxx, I am vaxxed because I am in a high risk group and don’t want to get Covid.  I’m also vaxxed because it makes me less at risk of dying when travelling and it is less of a hassle to enter other countries if one is vaxxed.  I have travelled in the past in countries where vaxxes for various diseases are mandatory and am happy to accept a vaxx for such purposes. Their country, their rules.  I’m happy also to help improve Australia’s levels of resistance to Covid and possibly to further variant development by being vaxxed.  Other can do it by catching Covid, their call.  All vaccines carry risks.  Accept these , or reject the vaxx.  A personal decision.

    I’ve said this a thousand times on the Old Cat and a few times here too.

    I am not going to engage in vaccine discussions here any more.

    Not a lot of point.

    Better vaccines are in the pipeline anyway.  May be too late for some.

     

     


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  38. Grigory M says:
    August 25, 2021 at 3:16 pm

    Sorry Terry P – didn’t get it quite right. Maybe this time:

     

    Ivermectin is not approved for the treatment of COVID-19


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  39. cohenite says:
    August 25, 2021 at 3:18 pm

    Like this Terry P:

    Ivermectin is Not Approved for the Treatment of COVID-19

    The LINK button does work. Click on it and enter the link address details.

    The link is broken: page not found.


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  40. Mother Lode says:
    August 25, 2021 at 3:30 pm

    <<What took Paul Hogan years to build in the way of overseas tourist advertising and with his movies, these absolute horrors have destroyed in a few weeks.>>

    Nah! It’s all good. Nothing that can’t be fixed with loads of money.

    And it will be an opportunity to update the image.

    Picture this:

    Shots of a pasty flimsy man in gaudy make up and a dress (that showcases what he was thinking when he said he was really a woman) riding a ferry, posing in front of the Opera House, holding up fabulous dresses in salon, picking at a lobster, dry-humping a koala. Lots of whooping and tittering, noisy air kisses, batting eye-lashes, double entendres (well, single really) delivered as if daring you to admit understanding, and leaning against every person he meets and drawing his fingers along them like flirtatious toying.

    Finishes with a big slobbering kiss on the camera lens and a voice over We want to touch you down under!”

    We will be world will be beating a path to our door.

    Backdoor even.


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  41. thefrollickingmole says:
    August 25, 2021 at 3:30 pm

    Was going to guest post this but here will do.

     

    Do we save the administrative state?

     

    The thoughts in this article were triggered by one of the most RTWT pieces produced over the last week or so since it was shown that EVERY agency, military, civilian and NGO involved in Afghanistan was worse than clueless.

    https://tinkzorg.wordpress.com/2021/08/16/farewell-to-bourgeois-kings/

     

    Hundreds of thousands of experts, top in their respective fields, all failed to see 20 years and trillions of dollars were no match for hard men with a cause. CIA, FBI, NSA, UN, ASIO, Medicans san Frontiers, Oxfam, and a thousand other trustafarian dilettantes all poured time & resources onto sand.

     

    Im not going to rehash the points made in that, and other well written articles about the failure. Its catastrophic, all consuming and cannot be denied.

     

    Instead Im going to focus on trying to save the administrative state.

    Something I hate personally but will credit with (in its original forms) assisting in reducing inequalities and regulating behaviour between the classes.

     

    What Im afraid of: A turn to rule by emotion, breeding, wealth, or personal influence and connections. Tsarist Russia might be seen as the epitome of this, which led to the horrible spiral of repression, oppression then revolution.

     

    In my opinion there is only one key way to save the administrative state.

    The bureaucracy must learn to fear the general public.

    The local planning officer should flinch when a permission is requested knowing if they apply the regulations capriciously or in a way that damages an individual they will lose their job and be liable for economic loss.

    The Clean energy finance guru should shit his pants seeing electricity prices rise, knowing, without a doubt hes about to be sacked and blacklisted from any similar position.

    The various health authorities inflicting economic and mental ruin on hundreds of thousands of people need to be jailed and their departments disbanded, every person in them marked as pariah.

    Politicians must be made to enact legislation through parliament only, not assign vast reams of law making and regulation to self interested silos of various regulatory agencies. And when one of those regulations causes harm to an individual they must be held personally accountable for the losses suffered.

     

    We exist in an awful state at the moment which I would call anarcho-tyranny, where we are sowed incredibly thickly with laws and regulations, yet connections or money mean they are selectively applied.

    Billy Bongsmoke cant leave his LGA for fear of a fine equal to 3 months of his disability pension, yet Nicole Kidman flys in direct from Singapore because shes ‘economically vital”.

    The only way out is complete accountability.

    We need lawyers prepared to lodge thousands of damages claims every time a new regulation is enacted.

    We need a political party that removes any ability of the bureaucracy to generate law or regulation without compensation paid up ahead of its imposition to those affected.

    And lastly we need sackings and consequences for every fuckup. No shuffling sideways, no mercy, if a bureaucrat has blighted another persons life with a bad decision then justice demands they face a similar penalty as restitution.

     

    This and only this approach will save the administrative state.

    As it exists it is an almost completely closed self serving loop. Appeals and complaints pit atomised individuals against organisations wallowing in OPM and effectively unlimited resources. And “watchdogs” supposed to provide some accountability are designed to respond to the bureaucracy, not the individuals affected.

    Introducing fear of the public is the only way to make the managerial class realise the danger they are in.

    They honestly don’t realise in many cases they harm they inflict, and with a near complete absence of painful personal stimuli have no reason to do so.

     

    With no skin in the game they are ignorant enough to reach for repression as their tool of choice.

    Democratic repression is no better than repression by Theocracy , Monarchy or any of the charnel house “isms” of the 20th Century.

    I am genuinely concerned we return to the age of “Propaganda of the Deed”, where people ruined by government fiat decide that just smashing stuff up and becoming ungovernable is as legitimate as voting for the uniparties every 4 years.


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  43. Brislurker says:
    August 25, 2021 at 3:34 pm

    This whole Invermectin thing is getting really weird.

    This article is from the Cairns News and posting an article from Australian National Review dated 13th August, 2021. Is it old news, new news or are authorities starting to cover themselves now that vaccines are not preventing repeat doses of covid? It is all getting very confusing.

    https://cairnsnews.org/2021/08/13/australian-gps-can-legally-prescribe-ivermectin-triple-therapy-protocol/


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  44. jo says:
    August 25, 2021 at 3:35 pm

    As Effie said, Australians? how embarrassment.


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  45. Grigory M says:
    August 25, 2021 at 3:38 pm

    Fixed at 3.18pm cohenite.


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  46. Indolent says:
    August 25, 2021 at 3:40 pm

    Sal, I agree with you about too much being made of some of those things however, it’s our own media that made it sound worse than it is.

    ************************

    How much worse can it get when they’re closing coffee shops and takeaways in Melbourne and telling you not to watch the sunset?


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  49. incoherent rambler says:
    August 25, 2021 at 3:58 pm

    calli says:
    August 25, 2021 at 2:49 pm

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    Calli speaks well.

    The war between the vaxxendenated and the pure unvaxxed will not be necessary.

    The wrong side of the argument will be dead.

     


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  50. calli says:
    August 25, 2021 at 3:58 pm

    Excellent post TFM.  Shame if it’s left here on the OT.

    Do you think you could shoot it over to Dover as a separate thread for comment?

    Link


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  51. Indolent says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:02 pm

    Didn’t Hunt say, buried in one of his long winded letters, that they cannot prevent doctors from prescribing Ivermectin to their patients?


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  52. incoherent rambler says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:10 pm

    When people fear the government you have tyranny.

    When the government* fears the people you have liberty.

     

    or the admin
    and h/t Thomas J
    and interesting things happen with an asterisk in column 1.
    Is this a markdown world?

     


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  56. thefrollickingmole says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:12 pm

    Cali

    Whats the clean cats proper name?

    I cant find the bloody thing.

     


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  59. incoherent rambler says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:24 pm

    trois kaysee. I like trois.


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  60. calli says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:25 pm

    You can link to Dover at

    Catallaxyfiles@protonmail.com

     

    I tried to give you a HyperLink, but it only went to the app.  Sorry.


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  61. areff says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:29 pm

    Struth: Remember, way back, when ‘Green Dog’ and his mates  through up blockades all over? Can this planned operation match it?


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  62. thefrollickingmole says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:30 pm

    Sent Calli.

    Now if I could just find the place…

     


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  63. kaysee says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:30 pm

    Steve trickler says:

    August 24, 2021 at 9:52 am

    For those that missed it.

    Aussie Cossack:

    The Cossack makes some very good points. Also lists great reasons to fight honourably and without violence.

    True Blue.


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  64. a reader says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:40 pm

    Here’s the PM today. Time to rename the governing party to the Tyranny Party

    Scott Morrison backs vaccine passports, saying businesses have right to refuse entry (msn.com)

    The Australian prime minister, Scott Morrison, has thrown his support behind the use of vaccine passports, saying the concept is sensible and has “nothing to do with ideology”.

    Despite internal resistance within the Coalition over the use of Covid vaccination certificates for things such as travel and major events, Morrison said any business had a “legitimate” right to refuse entry to someone who had refused to get vaccinated.

    The government has backed the use of a QR code-style vaccination pass that would verify a person’s vaccination status using information from the Australian Immunisation Register. The type of pass is often referred to as a vaccine passport.

    “A business under property law has the ability to say ‘no, you can’t come in’, and they can ask for that [proof of vaccination], that’s a legitimate thing for them to do, and they’re doing that to protect their own workers, to protect their other clients,” Morrison told 2GB radio on Wednesday.

    “It’s got nothing to do with ideology, and these issues around liberty and so on. We all believe in freedom, but we also believe in people being healthy.

    “The sheer fact of it is, if you’re not vaccinated, you represent a greater public health risk to yourself, to your family, to your community and others about you, so it’s only sensible that people will do sensible things to protect their public health.”


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  65. kaysee says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:40 pm

    Vaccine tyranny: Done being silent.

    《 LAFD Fire Captain Christian Granucci, 31 Year Veteran of Station 108 says He and his Crew will fight the upcoming WAX Mandates with all their might. He doesn’t care if he gets in trouble, he says he’s taking a stand against the Tyranny 》

     


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  66. kaysee says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:47 pm

    thefrollickingmole says:

    August 24, 2021 at 5:10 pm

    from maurice Blackburn…

    That should be the shortest class action case in Australia.

    And I see no “out” for scum organizations like Qantas or SPC in that.

    I think the law firms are playing a waiting game. They are going to be very busy once the class action cases begin.

    The Covidberg Trials.
    Can’t wait for them to start.


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  67. Bar Beach Swimmer says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:51 pm

    <i>Bar Beach Swimmer and calli right after making it, was deleted because Bar Beach Swimmer objected to it, but the original comment by Lysander remains intact</i>

    I didn’t see it at the time so I didn’t flag it but it’s done now.


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  68. jo says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:51 pm

    Kaysee quatre is so sad it almost brought me to tears. What have our gov’ts done to children. They will know no difference. I was brought up by a woman whose life never quite amounted to what she thought it should be. WWII got in the way of her grandiose plans to be an opera singer or concert pianist as she was very good at both. It was only my Aunt and Uncle whom I loved dearly did I see what normality was. They never had much but had everything a child needed. I have already told my daughter not to hang her shit on my grandson. Don’t know if she understands.


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  69. struth says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:52 pm

    So who now doesn’t believe Sco Mo is a globalist and has been at the forefront of introducing this tyranny to Australia?


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  70. Farmer Gez says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:53 pm

    “The sheer fact of it is, if you’re not vaccinated, you represent a greater public health risk to yourself, to your family, to your community and others about you, so it’s only sensible that people will do sensible things to protect their public health.”
    ————————————————————————

    It’s the laying on of the hands bit.

    Fucked in the head.

    Bye Bye Sooty.


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  71. rickw says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:55 pm

    <em>

    Calli speaks well.

    The war between the vaxxendenated and the pure unvaxxed will not be necessary.

    The wrong side of the argument will be dead. </em>

    Had exactly this conversation at work today, lay low and wait while Darwin does his job.


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  72. Farmer Gez says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:55 pm

    Imagine being stuck in the Lodge with Sooty.

    Feign death when he starts preaching.


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  73. Bar Beach Swimmer says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:56 pm

    mh @ 10:33 – great young man; there’s hope that not everyone’s been taken in.

     

    Steve T @ 10:45 – great vid from Avi from the other day.  What a genial crowd of lovely Australians they were; friendly, affable, respectful and rational, and not taken in by the “I stand with Dan” idiots.  I particularly liked the bloke with the Australian Passport and the two blokes – one a veteran, and the other one the son of a veteran.  We’re in good hands if they’re the majority view.  It gives me real hope that Dan’s definitely stuffed.


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  74. Franx says:
    August 25, 2021 at 4:58 pm

    Mole 3.30

    True. But how to go about it all.


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  75. cohenite says:
    August 25, 2021 at 5:05 pm

    The administrative state:

    The bureaucracy must learn to fear the general public.

    For that to occur there must be consequences; for consequences to occur the people’s representatives must fear the public and deal with errant bureaucrats. And there’s your problem.


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  76. H B Bear says:
    August 25, 2021 at 5:16 pm

    No surprise to see Slo Mo vacate the field.  Saves room under the bus for later.  As I have said, why do the Lieborals even bother forming government?


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  77. incoherent rambler says:
    August 25, 2021 at 5:17 pm

    the people’s representatives must fear the public

    ===========================

    “Surely you don’t expect the common people to make decisions of state.

    Only those of us with authority granted by God can make those decisions.”

    Charles I – rough quote from memory.

     


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  78. H B Bear says:
    August 25, 2021 at 5:24 pm

    Public servants treat the government the way ALPBC staff treat management.  Barely above a running joke.


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  79. incoherent rambler says:
    August 25, 2021 at 5:26 pm

    test<br>test


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  80. H B Bear says:
    August 25, 2021 at 5:26 pm

    Charles I – rough quote from memory.
    —————————

    How did that work out for him?


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  81. mh says:
    August 25, 2021 at 5:27 pm

    mh @ 10:33 – great young man; there’s hope that not everyone’s been taken in.
    ***
    Here is the link again

    https://twitter.com/ZNeveri/status/1429547401375793169?s=20

     


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  83. incoherent rambler says:
    August 25, 2021 at 5:31 pm

    How did that work out for him?

    ======

    Detached from the common people and his head.


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  84. Boambee John says:
    August 25, 2021 at 5:31 pm

    kaysee

     

    thanks.


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  85. Carpe Jugulum says:
    August 25, 2021 at 5:40 pm

    Biden Lotto

    AKA – When Will Sleepy Joe Go

     

    Carpe                   24/9/2021

    Calli                      10/9/2021

    Delta A                1/10/2021

    A Reader             27/12/2021

    ZK2A                     30/10/2021

    BBS                       25/11/2021

    Custard                18/9/2021

    Joanna                 7/10/2021

    Rosie                    19/9/2021

    Zippy                     1/6/2022

    Rex Anger            6/6/2022

    Fat Tony              11/9/2021

    Rick W                  1/12/2021

    Rohan                  1/11/2021

    Cohenite              24/12/2021

    Leigh Lowe         4/7/2024

    Any additions, omissions or incorrections – let me know


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  86. calli says:
    August 25, 2021 at 5:40 pm

    protect their public health.

    How about private health?

    You know…our bodies, our choice.

    Or are we all assimilated into The Borg now?

     

     


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  87. calli says:
    August 25, 2021 at 5:43 pm

    Charles I – rough quote from memory.
    —————————

    How did that work out for him?

    A chilly day, an extra shirt and a weight loss plan to die for.


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  88. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
    August 25, 2021 at 5:48 pm

    How did that work out for him?

    His head singing “I Ain’t Got No Body?’

     


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  89. H B Bear says:
    August 25, 2021 at 5:48 pm

    Detached from the common people and his head.
    —————————

    That focuses the attention and says you are serious.


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  90. cohenite says:
    August 25, 2021 at 5:50 pm

    After being closed down by fucking google, The Australian Climate Sceptics blog is being re-sited; I had previously provided a temporary link; this is the permanent one:

    https://australianclimatesceptics.com/

     


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  91. rickw says:
    August 25, 2021 at 5:55 pm

    The police discharged firearms at unarmed protesters that posed no threat to them or anyone else.

    But they were non lethal devices?!

    Try importing one without treating it as a firearm and you will be charged with firearm offences.

    The police in their efforts to turn Australia into an unliveable shithole have spent great time and effort having all kinds of non lethal projectile launching devices recategorised as firearms.  They now can’t decide that they want to have this both ways because it suits their agenda.

    The police discharged firearms at unarmed protesters who posed no threat to them or anyone else.

     


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  92. twostix says:
    August 25, 2021 at 5:58 pm

    Scumbag Scotty wants to “jab” kids with a vaccine that has nothing to do with them and backs chinese style social credit passports.

    All this after overseeing the complete collapse and reversal of 120 years of hard work to create a unified Australia by our fathers and grandfathers (to China’s immense geo-political benefit)

    This is the greatest betrayer and turncoat of an anglo leader towards his country since the middle ages.  Will vote labor ahead forever just to watch this place burn to the ground.


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  93. caveman says:
    August 25, 2021 at 6:00 pm

    Liz Storer on Kenny good value.


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  94. The Beer whisperer says:
    August 25, 2021 at 6:05 pm

    Channel 9 news in full propaganda mode. Showing victims (including half vaccinated) struggling to breathe. Shameless pricks.


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  95. thefrollickingmole says:
    August 25, 2021 at 6:07 pm

    rickw

     

    I saw yesterday they went “burger wiith the lot” on charges for a chap because he had.

    1: “Edged weapons” (butterknife, claymore?)

    2: Gel blaster.

     

    For those who dont know this is a gel blaster.

    Its now a firearm’s offence in Australia to posses one, because? Scary black thing??

    https://www.mediastatements.wa.gov.au/Pages/McGowan/2021/06/Government-moves-to-outlaw-gel-blasters-in-Western-Australia.aspx#:~:text=Police%20Minister%20Paul%20Papalia%20today,blaster%20guns%20in%20Western%20Australia.&text=The%20penalty%20for%20anyone%20found,fine%20of%20up%20to%20%2436%2C000.

     

    Comments attributed to Police Minister Paul Papalia:

     

    “Gel blasters look like real firearms.

    “There have been 500 high level responses to active armed shooter incidents across Australia caused by the presence of gel blasters – this means serious crime and counter terrorist assets like the TRG are being diverted from their proper role.

    “Someone in possession of a gel blaster in the community could be shot by Police fearing they are carrying a real weapon.

    “Criminals are also attracted to using gel blasters as fake weapons or to convert to useable firearms.

    “The WA Police Force has requested that we ban gel blasters so we are taking that action.”

    ……..

     

    Still we can be confident the Police minister isnt either a lying shitweasel or a complete drooling retard who eats crayons straight from the box.

     

    ……………………..

    Disassembling a blaster on the counter at Beaton Firearms, Mr Beaton said the first difference between a real firearm and a gel blaster is the aluminium barrel.

    “No rifle barrels are manufactured with aluminium, because aluminium, just on the face of it, wouldn’t have the rigidity to resist a conventional cartridge,” he said.

    A plastic trough at the end of the barrel presents the second problem; the trough receives the gel pellet before it is fired through the barrel.

    For the blaster to shoot a real cartridge, the trough would have to hold the bullet before it was fired down the barrel, something that Beaton said was impossible.

    A conventional round contains a detonator at the rear of the cartridge, which is crushed by a firing pin actuated by a trigger mechanism that hits the end of the cartridge at high speed and ignites a charge of gunpowder within the cartridge, firing the projectile at the front of the bullet down the barrel of the gun.

    “So you would need some sort of bolt mechanism, which would retain the projectile or the case in the chamber and discharge it,” Beaton said.

    The blaster lacks a trigger mechanism suitable to fire a bullet; to easily modify the blaster as the Minister Papalia said was possible would require completely new parts, Beaton said.

    “If you have a bolt mechanism in there to discharge, you would then need some sort of mechanical trigger mechanism.

    “So the trigger mechanism in this gun is an electronic trigger mechanism that uses gears, and it’s not suitable for a conventional firearm. So you would need a trigger system to retain the firing pin to discharge the firearm.”

    With the gel blaster disassembled on the counter of his gun store, Beaton delivers the final verdict on whether modifying a gel blaster to shoot bullets was possible.

    The components that make a blaster are not at all interchangeable with firearm parts, and every mechanism involved in firing the pellets would have to be taken out and replaced with new parts that the casing is not designed for.

    “There’s pretty much nothing on this which you can utilize to manufacture a firearm. And you’d need an entire firearm to turn this into a firearm… It’s just not feasible at all,” Beaton said.


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  96. Terry Pedersen says:
    August 25, 2021 at 6:16 pm

    “<i>Bar Beach Swimmer and calli right after making it, was deleted because Bar Beach Swimmer objected to it, but the original comment by Lysander remains intact</i>

    I didn’t see it at the time so I didn’t flag it but it’s done now.”

    ****************************************************

    Sure. What was this warm greeting about then?

    “Bar Beach Swimmer says:
    August 24, 2021 at 6:52 pm

    Hi, Lysander!  Hope all is going well.”


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  97. johanna says:
    August 25, 2021 at 6:19 pm

    Thanks for the update on the Australian Sceptics site, cohenite.

    How pathetic is it when the Masters of the Universe go after an essentially amateur, volunteer run site with a tiny (by their standards) readership in another country because it publishes heresies about climate ‘science.’

    What are they so scared of?


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  98. Baba says:
    August 25, 2021 at 6:26 pm

    The Beer whisperer says:
    August 25, 2021 at 6:05 pm

    Channel 9 news in full propaganda mode. Showing victims (including half vaccinated) struggling to breathe. Shameless pricks.

    *******

    This is to be expected when health professionals withhold early treatment.

    You’re positive. Stay home.


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  99. Axl Rosé says:
    August 25, 2021 at 6:30 pm

    @Johanna.

     

    Because it is there and they can.

     

    Anyone still using Goolag as their search engine is an idjit.


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