1.3 Principles
The policy is guided by key two legal principles which underpin consent:
* Patients have the right of autonomy or self-determination, recognised at law.
* This has been described as the “right of every human being of adult years and sound mind to determine what shall be done with his own body”.2
* The provision of medical treatment without patient consent exposes health professionals to risks of legal claims including trespass to the person (assault and battery) and/or negligence (failure to inform), except in cases where the law permits or requires treatment without consent.
…
“…Consent will be valid if it is:
* voluntary – the decision to either consent or not to consent to the proposed treatment must be made by the patient themselves, and must not be unduly influenced by health professionals, friends or family…”
Id say there could be no argument that government policies are being used in such a way to make consent effectively void.
If I make your earning a living or even visiting a relative hostage to receiving a medical treatment then thats a form of coercion.
If I make your earning a living dependent on having a swab chucked up your nose every week thats coercion.
An Open Letter to America from Dr. Steven Hatfill, a specialist physician, recognized Virologist and Bioweapons expert and who worked as an outside advisor to the Executive Office of the President of the United States from February 2020 through the inaugural transition period of 2021</i>
Thanks for that, Indolent. Well worth a look – I hope many more people read it.
One case, hard lockdown NZud says you’re wrong, but that’s a given.”
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Yeah, I do know, Gez.
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Isn’t the point being made that even though NZ (and the ACT) slammed into hard lockdown the moment one person tested positive, and in Victoria Maximum Leader wasn’t slow off the mark in reimposing house arrest (nor slow in self-aggrandising comparisons with Gladys), they’re all still getting more cases coming through?
True, NSW is getting new cases – reported cases, at least – in much higher numbers at present, but unless it’s presumed against all the evidence that “eradication” can work we’d have to reserve judgment on which outcome will ultimately be worse.
Don’t know if I’ve already said this but biden and his swamp should all be stripped naked and given a choice: either spend a day on an ant’s nest or be sent to the talifucks to negotiate face to face the release of all the people they left at the mercy of those inbred bastards.
For consent to be valid, it must be given voluntarily. A voluntary decision is one that is made freely by a patient in response to an understanding of the treatment options. The decision must be free from undue pressure, coercion or manipulation.
Treating health professionals and family members may assist the patient to come to a decision. However, assistance must be distinguished from undue influence, with the latter involving a substitution with another person’s wishes for that of the patients’. Accordingly, it is for the medical professional involved to be satisfied that it is from the patient, and not from family members or friends, or that undue influences are being placed upon the person.
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The decision must be free from undue pressure, coercion or manipulation.
That should be the shortest class action case in Australia.
And I see no “out” for scum organizations like Qantas or SPC in that.
16 June = 1 case (Dover Heights limo driver); 17 June = 2nd case (Dover Heights limo driver’s wife); no lockdown.
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Back to the correct source of infection, and it’s not the limo driver.
Once again it’s international travel that has been the source of all infections and is still the biggest ongoing failure of airtight quarantine.
It wouldn’t have mattered a jot if the limo had a mask or was immunised as he was in close contact with Covid positives in an enclosed space for a prolonged period of time.
The medical staff are infecting their own patients in various hospitals right now, despite the hygiene protocols that are observed.
Do you honestly think that this Delta strain is easily rounded up by locking people down in their homes, except for shopping, medical appointments, childcare, takeaways…………
Around 7,000 Toll truck drivers will go on strike for 24 hours on Friday
The Transport Workers Union accuses Toll of seeking to hire lower paid contractors
Toll has offered workers a 2 per cent pay rise and has urged the union to return to bargaining
The Transport Workers Union (TWU) said that “crisis talks” over a new enterprise bargaining agreement with Toll had collapsed.
As a result, it said 7,000 truck drivers will strike for 24 hours on Friday after the negotiations broke down.
Note that this is four times “more” effective, not “as” effective.
Therefore the first two shots cannot be more than 20% effective, as four times “more” effective would then bring it to 100%. Is there anyone in the MSM who is capable of performing basic arithmetic?
Whoa – this is NOT about IVM, it’s the reality of having over a dozen repurposed & highly effective early treatment agents against Covid19 that are being ignored/suppressed.. while we wait for shaky evidence to deploy a BigPharma high-profit oral medicine to “save” our dumbasses
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Covid19Crusher
@Covid19Crusher
Aug 21
You do not die of Covid-19. You die of Covid-19 AND denial of prompt, early treatment. But for the absence of early treatment, you would live. And the denial of early treatment is a bureaucratic decision. A bureaucratic decision is what kills you.
Has anyone notice that Joel Fitzgibbon’s right eyelid/eye looks odd? I’ve only noticed it over the last couple of weeks – maybe I just didn’t notice it before that, but it makes me wonder if anything has happened to him. Like Vic Dominello, the NSW.
<i>Being academically bright never stopped someone from getting caught up in a cult</i>
rickw, look at cohenite. He’s bows down to real estate porn by checking it our religiously and trying to evangelise others to it. If that’s not a cult I don’t know what is.😁
“* The provision of medical treatment without patient consent exposes health professionals to risks of legal claims including trespass to the person (assault and battery) and/or negligence (failure to inform), except in cases where the law permits or requires treatment without consent.”
Read the last sentence – “except in cases where the law permits or requires treatment without consent.”
They are saying, yes, your body your choice, except when we, the enlightened ones who know better, choose otherwise.
It’s the same with the privacy setting you can make on your vaccine record, it says your record is 100% secure and private, except when and where we, the same enlightened ones, choose otherwise.
We really do need some form of a Bill of Rights in this place.
For those who took the vaccine to travel, yet are now proclaiming your disgust at a vaccine passport, how do you think it was going to be checked?
Sorry, not buying your insincere opposition to a passport.
By the way, I have been on about disobedience for some time.
That is the right thing to do.
To obey tyrants is a criminal thing to do.
Remember Nuremberg, where for the first time people obeying tyrants were convicted, and rightly so.
Every time you obey tyrants, what makes you any different?
This is the sticking point for those that do not want to examine or critique themselves and what they stand for, (or don’t) but just hope somebody else will fight for them.
This is a brilliant video, for those that have not understood my reasoning in dealing with the likes of Notafan and others here.
Your obedience is criminal in my view.
And no different to those at Nuremberg saying “I was only carrying out orders”
Al Capone’s last haul: family auctions his mementos
Al Capone attends a football game in Chicago in 1931.
By Richard Morgan
The Wall Street Journal
41 minutes ago August 24, 2021 No Comments
Call it Al Capone’s final haul. A trove of family mementos, jewellery and weapons once owned by the notorious gangster will be auctioned by his three surviving granddaughters, who lived in relative obscurity until they emerged in 2019.
The collection, which includes Capone’s “favourite” gun — a Colt .45 pistol starting at $US50,000 ($69,175), a Patek Philippe pocket watch monogrammed with 90 diamonds, and personal letters is estimated to sell for $US700,000, by luxury asset auctioneer Witherell’s, based in Sacramento, which revealed the catalogue on Monday. Timothy Gordon, of the US version of Antiques Roadshow, appraised the items.
“Al Capone is the most-collected historical figure in the criminal world, and traditionally his items have sold at astronomical amounts,” he said.
Personal items, especially monogrammed, perform particularly well, experts said. In 2017, a diamond watch owned by Capone sold for $US84,375, more than tripling its pre-auction estimate.
A 2014 Sotheby’s auction sold Capone’s engraved 1932 silver-plated cocktail shaker for $68,500.
The truck strike is just a strike by Toll workers.
A non issue but played up to confuse as to other rumblings going on in the industry, of which myself and a few others are pushing.
Too many big companies now full of towel heads and transport companies are making massive profits right now. The best ever, as people realise they can’t get the stuff they might take themselves across borders, and people can’t travel anywhere to get their own supplies etc etc etc.
It’s like bashing your head against a brick wall.
Short term pain or else you’ll lose everything does not compute.
As with the last of my posts above, some other transport company, some other truckie must make the first move and then I doubt they’d be supported.
Struth, it appears to me that with the Toll strike, the unions are just “jumping on the bandwagon”of independent truckers threats to blockade to get their union workers a pay rise.
So how does “informed medical consent” rub up against imposing legal restrictions on everyday activities in order to ‘encourage” compliance?
I cant see how the restrictions could survive rubbing against medical ethics if they were properly challenged.
https://www.healthywa.wa.gov.au/~/media/Files/Corporate/Policy%20Frameworks/Clinical%20Governance%20Safety%20and%20Quality/Policy/WA%20Health%20Consent%20to%20Treatment%20Policy/Supporting/WA-Health-Consent-to-Treatment-Policy.pdf
1.3 Principles
The policy is guided by key two legal principles which underpin consent:
* Patients have the right of autonomy or self-determination, recognised at law.
* This has been described as the “right of every human being of adult years and sound mind to determine what shall be done with his own body”.2
* The provision of medical treatment without patient consent exposes health professionals to risks of legal claims including trespass to the person (assault and battery) and/or negligence (failure to inform), except in cases where the law permits or requires treatment without consent.
…
“…Consent will be valid if it is:
* voluntary – the decision to either consent or not to consent to the proposed treatment must be made by the patient themselves, and must not be unduly influenced by health professionals, friends or family…”
Id say there could be no argument that government policies are being used in such a way to make consent effectively void.
If I make your earning a living or even visiting a relative hostage to receiving a medical treatment then thats a form of coercion.
If I make your earning a living dependent on having a swab chucked up your nose every week thats coercion.
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Dont tell me Terry is Cherry Can’t.
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Anyone in business that facilitates politicians, media hosts….
Any chef that cooks for these people. We will find out. You are going going to cop a flogging.
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<i>Indolent says:
August 24, 2021 at 3:12 pm
An Open Letter to America from Dr. Steven Hatfill, a specialist physician, recognized Virologist and Bioweapons expert and who worked as an outside advisor to the Executive Office of the President of the United States from February 2020 through the inaugural transition period of 2021</i>
Thanks for that, Indolent. Well worth a look – I hope many more people read it.
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As stupid.
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Happy to see, Rick and Sue hang!
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“TailgunneR says:
August 24, 2021 at 4:47 pm
I agree Tim Pool is very milquetoast, but his take on the straya lockdowns/fascism is …”
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… fight for your rights to OBEY THE FASCISTS & TAKE THE DAMN ‘VACCINES!’, so we can all finally be ‘free’ ….
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Terry Pedersen says:
August 24, 2021 at 4:00 pm
“You know no such thing.
One case, hard lockdown NZud says you’re wrong, but that’s a given.”
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Yeah, I do know, Gez.
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Isn’t the point being made that even though NZ (and the ACT) slammed into hard lockdown the moment one person tested positive, and in Victoria Maximum Leader wasn’t slow off the mark in reimposing house arrest (nor slow in self-aggrandising comparisons with Gladys), they’re all still getting more cases coming through?
True, NSW is getting new cases – reported cases, at least – in much higher numbers at present, but unless it’s presumed against all the evidence that “eradication” can work we’d have to reserve judgment on which outcome will ultimately be worse.
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Don’t know if I’ve already said this but biden and his swamp should all be stripped naked and given a choice: either spend a day on an ant’s nest or be sent to the talifucks to negotiate face to face the release of all the people they left at the mercy of those inbred bastards.
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from maurice Blackburn…
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For consent to be valid, it must be given voluntarily. A voluntary decision is one that is made freely by a patient in response to an understanding of the treatment options. The decision must be free from undue pressure, coercion or manipulation.
Treating health professionals and family members may assist the patient to come to a decision. However, assistance must be distinguished from undue influence, with the latter involving a substitution with another person’s wishes for that of the patients’. Accordingly, it is for the medical professional involved to be satisfied that it is from the patient, and not from family members or friends, or that undue influences are being placed upon the person.
………..
The decision must be free from undue pressure, coercion or manipulation.
That should be the shortest class action case in Australia.
And I see no “out” for scum organizations like Qantas or SPC in that.
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This “inspirational” ad from quaintarse makes be want to go on a frozen mallard spree.
https://youtu.be/wuTnscoM024
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I hope the truckies carryout their strike & I fully support them.
It is my greatest wish they bring the state & feral governments to their knees.
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Avi:
This is what life looks like in the POLICE STATE of Victoria
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<i>This bitch needs her head….
Doherty Institute. Gates supported xunts.</i>
It’s evil
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min – you should book a few sessions with Steve Trickler. He’s more than a little unhinged at the moment.
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Mintox.
Union Pacific Big Boy #4014 Steam Train 45-50 MPH Pacing in Louisiana!
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Yeah, I do know, Gez.
16 June = 1 case (Dover Heights limo driver); 17 June = 2nd case (Dover Heights limo driver’s wife); no lockdown.
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Back to the correct source of infection, and it’s not the limo driver.
Once again it’s international travel that has been the source of all infections and is still the biggest ongoing failure of airtight quarantine.
It wouldn’t have mattered a jot if the limo had a mask or was immunised as he was in close contact with Covid positives in an enclosed space for a prolonged period of time.
The medical staff are infecting their own patients in various hospitals right now, despite the hygiene protocols that are observed.
Do you honestly think that this Delta strain is easily rounded up by locking people down in their homes, except for shopping, medical appointments, childcare, takeaways…………
Do try to think things through Terrence.
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Channel 10 newsbint claims a study out of Israel shows that a third booster shot makes the vaccine “four times more effective”.
Just how effective does she think the vaccine might be before the booster?
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Terry, trying to be cool.
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Do try to think, Gez.
Glad the Loudhailer should have properly locked down Bondi and Waverley LGA no later than midnight 17 June 2021.
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Channel 10 newsbint claims a study out of Israel shows that a third booster shot makes the vaccine “four times more effective”
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Success will always be just out of reach while we suffer the status quo. See also: Aboriginal Industry modus operandi.
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Farmer Gez
<i>Do try to think things through Terrence.</i>
You are assuming that Parry the Very Tedious One is capable of independent thought.
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<i>Terry Pedersen says:
August 24, 2021 at 5:41 pm
Do try to think, Gez.
Glad the Loudhailer should have properly locked down Bondi and Waverley LGA no later than midnight 17 June 2021.</i>
It’s like a very tedious scratched record going around and around and around …
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essential workers, emergency workers, medical staff, Chemists, public transport, private transport, freight and goods carriers, journalists, police……..
Should I keep going Locky Pedersen?
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“Should I keep going”
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Ok by me, Gez. The earth is, after all, flat.
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<em> “four times more effective”. </em>
If it allows you to catch and transmit, four times more effective isn’t that good…
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“…It’s like a very tedious scratched record going around and around and around…”
I prefer the puppy poop rhoomba analogy.
It picks up shit and spread’s it around till it finely coats everything while simultaneously thinking its making things better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz7JGthBbKc&list=RDASjLXrbVlMw&index=2
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Ha, the ship in Fremantle with the sick crew visited us a couple of months ago.
Dodged a lockdown bullet there!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/covid-positive-test-for-ken-hou-crew-fremantle/100401890
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Ground control to Major Terence.
“It’s the vibe. No that’s it, it’s the vibe.”
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2 truck strikes???
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/toll-unions-strike-trucks-transport-vaccines/100401866
Thousands of truck drivers will put a stop to wide range of product deliveries on Friday as part of a planned national strike at transport giant Toll Group.
Around 7,000 Toll truck drivers will go on strike for 24 hours on Friday
The Transport Workers Union accuses Toll of seeking to hire lower paid contractors
Toll has offered workers a 2 per cent pay rise and has urged the union to return to bargaining
The Transport Workers Union (TWU) said that “crisis talks” over a new enterprise bargaining agreement with Toll had collapsed.
As a result, it said 7,000 truck drivers will strike for 24 hours on Friday after the negotiations broke down.
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<em> “four times more effective”. </em>
Note that this is four times “more” effective, not “as” effective.
Therefore the first two shots cannot be more than 20% effective, as four times “more” effective would then bring it to 100%. Is there anyone in the MSM who is capable of performing basic arithmetic?
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Apologies if already posted…
Anonymous on Australia
7m 26s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dokjjmWpaU8
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“Lower paid contractors” = Currymunchers.
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Wow, all the crew are here.
Including Terry pedo in name and n…..!
(First time my workplace spamminator has let me through!)
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A New Low for the FDA
A New Low for the FDA (trialsitenews.com)
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Pierre Kory
@PierreKory
2h
Whoa – this is NOT about IVM, it’s the reality of having over a dozen repurposed & highly effective early treatment agents against Covid19 that are being ignored/suppressed.. while we wait for shaky evidence to deploy a BigPharma high-profit oral medicine to “save” our dumbasses
Quote Tweet
Covid19Crusher
@Covid19Crusher
Aug 21
You do not die of Covid-19. You die of Covid-19 AND denial of prompt, early treatment. But for the absence of early treatment, you would live. And the denial of early treatment is a bureaucratic decision. A bureaucratic decision is what kills you.
https://twitter.com/PierreKory/status/1430047089782927378?s=20
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Anonymous on Australia
7m 26s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dokjjmWpaU8
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Thank you for posting. Now if only they could do more than reproach us from behind a mask.
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The presidential line of succession, every one a demorat:
Presidential line of succession. In case you’re interested… – Us-politics Community | Retalk – Civil discussion for the center and center right
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Shocking Report Out About Covid Vaccine Injuries
Shocking Report Out About Covid Vaccine Injuries (rumble.com)
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Has anyone notice that Joel Fitzgibbon’s right eyelid/eye looks odd? I’ve only noticed it over the last couple of weeks – maybe I just didn’t notice it before that, but it makes me wonder if anything has happened to him. Like Vic Dominello, the NSW.
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Hi, Lysander! Hope all is going well.
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<i>Being academically bright never stopped someone from getting caught up in a cult</i>
rickw, look at cohenite. He’s bows down to real estate porn by checking it our religiously and trying to evangelise others to it. If that’s not a cult I don’t know what is.😁
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“Four times as effective”
Uh let me see, four times nuthin’ is uh, nuthin’
God, I loved Firefly.
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Test
and hi Lysander!
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“He’s bows down to real estate porn by checking it our religiously and trying to evangelise others to it. If that’s not a cult I don’t know what is.”
I do it for head prefect; he tries to be tough but he’s like a little kid who is very needy; real estate porn is like a big, fat dummy for him.
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thefrollickingmole says:
August 24, 2021 at 4:58 pm
So how does “informed medical consent” rub up against imposing legal restrictions on everyday activities in order to ‘encourage” compliance?
Id say there could be no argument that government policies are being used in such a way to make consent effectively void.
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Of course it does Mole, look at –
“* The provision of medical treatment without patient consent exposes health professionals to risks of legal claims including trespass to the person (assault and battery) and/or negligence (failure to inform), except in cases where the law permits or requires treatment without consent.”
Read the last sentence – “except in cases where the law permits or requires treatment without consent.”
They are saying, yes, your body your choice, except when we, the enlightened ones who know better, choose otherwise.
It’s the same with the privacy setting you can make on your vaccine record, it says your record is 100% secure and private, except when and where we, the same enlightened ones, choose otherwise.
We really do need some form of a Bill of Rights in this place.
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For those who took the vaccine to travel, yet are now proclaiming your disgust at a vaccine passport, how do you think it was going to be checked?
Sorry, not buying your insincere opposition to a passport.
By the way, I have been on about disobedience for some time.
That is the right thing to do.
To obey tyrants is a criminal thing to do.
Remember Nuremberg, where for the first time people obeying tyrants were convicted, and rightly so.
Every time you obey tyrants, what makes you any different?
This is the sticking point for those that do not want to examine or critique themselves and what they stand for, (or don’t) but just hope somebody else will fight for them.
This is a brilliant video, for those that have not understood my reasoning in dealing with the likes of Notafan and others here.
Your obedience is criminal in my view.
And no different to those at Nuremberg saying “I was only carrying out orders”
Here
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Al Capone’s last haul: family auctions his mementos
Al Capone attends a football game in Chicago in 1931.
By Richard Morgan
The Wall Street Journal
41 minutes ago August 24, 2021
No Comments
Call it Al Capone’s final haul. A trove of family mementos, jewellery and weapons once owned by the notorious gangster will be auctioned by his three surviving granddaughters, who lived in relative obscurity until they emerged in 2019.
The collection, which includes Capone’s “favourite” gun — a Colt .45 pistol starting at $US50,000 ($69,175), a Patek Philippe pocket watch monogrammed with 90 diamonds, and personal letters is estimated to sell for $US700,000, by luxury asset auctioneer Witherell’s, based in Sacramento, which revealed the catalogue on Monday. Timothy Gordon, of the US version of Antiques Roadshow, appraised the items.
“Al Capone is the most-collected historical figure in the criminal world, and traditionally his items have sold at astronomical amounts,” he said.
Personal items, especially monogrammed, perform particularly well, experts said. In 2017, a diamond watch owned by Capone sold for $US84,375, more than tripling its pre-auction estimate.
A 2014 Sotheby’s auction sold Capone’s engraved 1932 silver-plated cocktail shaker for $68,500.
From the “Australian.”
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The truck strike is just a strike by Toll workers.
A non issue but played up to confuse as to other rumblings going on in the industry, of which myself and a few others are pushing.
Too many big companies now full of towel heads and transport companies are making massive profits right now. The best ever, as people realise they can’t get the stuff they might take themselves across borders, and people can’t travel anywhere to get their own supplies etc etc etc.
It’s like bashing your head against a brick wall.
Short term pain or else you’ll lose everything does not compute.
As with the last of my posts above, some other transport company, some other truckie must make the first move and then I doubt they’d be supported.
YET.
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Start clearing your mind and find out nwho you are.
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cohenite @ 7:17
that’s what all cult leaders say – I’m doing it for their own good! 😉
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Struth, it appears to me that with the Toll strike, the unions are just “jumping on the bandwagon”of independent truckers threats to blockade to get their union workers a pay rise.
Is that a fair summation?
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*Your obedience is criminal in my view.*
Hi struth, you’ve probably gone too far here and are starting to become the thing you are trying to drag us back away the abyss from.
Don’t state into it for too long.
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<i>thefrollickingmole says:
August 24, 2021 at 4:58 pm
So how does “informed medical consent” rub up against impo