Open Thread – November 2024

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  1. mh says:
    November 1, 2024 at 12:21 am

    Scott Adams
    @ScottAdamsSays

    Israel brainwashes American politicians via this process and apparently that’s all legal.

    Israel is the No. 1 lobbyist-funded travel destination for members of Congress https://politi.co/4fs0Tvv via
    @politico

    Oct 30, 2024 · 228.3K Views

    https://x.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1851604686065049895


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  2. mh says:
    November 1, 2024 at 3:33 pm

    Courier Mail

    Hanson’s huge court loss over racist tweet

    Senator Pauline Hanson has been found by a court to have racially vilified Greens Senator Mehreen Faruqi in a tweet telling her to “piss off back to Pakistan”.


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  3. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 2, 2024 at 2:34 pm

    Valencia, Spain

    October 1957
    Flood causing loss of life and damage to property.
    A natural disaster

    October 2024
    Flash floods with heavy downpours causing loss of life and damage to property.
    A natural disaster.

    The explanation of the 2024 flooding according to the experts.

    Scientists trying to explain what happened see two likely connections to human-caused climate change. One is that warmer air holds and then dumps more rain. The other is possible changes in the jet stream — the river of air above land that moves weather systems across the globe — that spawn extreme weather.

    If it is human-caused “climate change” in 2024, it must have been human-caused climate change/global warming in 1957 ….. 67 years ago


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  4. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 2, 2024 at 2:52 pm

    The ones who imposed lockdowns and forced people to take the vaxx, claim they’ve saved lives. Such as:
    WA Premier Roger Cook

    we literally saved thousands of lives through the measures that we put in place.

    What the medical research continues to show:
    Dr James Royle, UK surgeon

    ‘Many of my multidisciplinary team colleagues, fellow surgeons, oncologists, pathologists, radiologists and specialist nurses all acknowledged to me sudden change in patterns and dramatic increase in these incurable advanced cancers that we’ve observed in these past two years.’


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  5. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 2, 2024 at 3:15 pm

    George Christensen …
    I am going to hand-deliver a printed petition hosted by Life Site News directly to Tony Burke’s office in Canberra.

    I’ll be doing this on Monday, 4 November.

    We need as many signatures as possible to have maximum effect.

    Sign the petition at https://lifepetitions.com/petition/candaceowens

    Signed.

    29,421 signatures so far.


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  6. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 2, 2024 at 3:28 pm

    I am carrying this over from the Muse Thread to the Open Thread because it is not connected to Hollywood and movies. And the Open Thread is looking a bit lonely. 😉

    It’s not my real name. (I’d like for you to use my real name, but…)

    Many of us who take part in online conversations have chosen to use an alias instead of our real life names. It isn’t intended to deceive others or hide something but to safeguard our privacy and identity in the online world.

    When we are talking in the blogosphere, I refer to a commenter by the name they have chosen. Unless it happens to be a long name, in which case I would use a part of the name.


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  7. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 2, 2024 at 3:41 pm

    Having ABC Classic FM on in the background, working from home, means navigating around the Welcomes to (our own) Country etc, but an education in classical music…

    Years ago, I used to listen to ABC Classic FM. Then, one year, they chose to focus on the October Revolution in the month of April and played Russian composers. I enjoy listening to Rachmaninoff and Shostakovich, but that particular day was Holy Saturday. A day for Handel and Bach. I was annoyed.

    Soon after, fiddling with the radio channels, I came across Fine Music and it became my new station for my fix of classical music. I haven’t listened to it much lately.

    It is an FM station FM radio (at 102.5FM.) But I don’t know whether you can pick it up on the same FM location anywhere in Oz.

    More info here and here.


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  8. mh says:
    November 2, 2024 at 4:22 pm

    Dan Bilzerian
    @DanBilzerian

    I’ve been researching religions & I have to say, I’m repeatedly shocked by Judaism.

    Their bibles have morally repugnant teachings which have long been kept secret.

    It says in Sanhedrin 59a “the punishment of a gentile who studies the Torah is execution.”

    Their Talmud(Jewish laws) openly has two sets of justice, and says it’s ok to lie, cheat and steal from non-jews.

    The Mishneh Torah says if a Jew rapes a 3 yr old non-jew, the baby should be executed for causing the Jew to rape her.

    These books teach tribalism, deceit, a victim narrative, and supremacist mentality.

    It’s being carried out to a T in Israel today.

    The most insufferable part is how they commit atrocities while pretending to be the victims and then expect sympathy.

    3:39 AM · Nov 2, 2024 · 3.3M Views


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  9. Esme says:
    November 2, 2024 at 6:41 pm

    Hanson’s huge court loss over racist tweet

    Back when it happened, when I still so wanted to believe that ‘conservatism’ was a real thing, when I routinely defended the likes of Tony Abbott from those incorrigible “lefties”, I tried valiantly to put out of mind his role in Pauline Hanson’s wrongful imprisonment. So relentless were the ‘two-party political’ attacks on him, it didn’t compute that he should be the ‘villain’, acting against another ‘underdog’; it just didn’t seem right to be critical of him.

    A “brief period” – is that how he referred to her nearly three months in gaol? Is that how he would have referred to his daughter, sister, wife being forced to endure a similarly frightening, humiliating, undeserved experience? I only have to think of the months under “lockdown”, across a ‘closed border’ from family in 2020-2021, and its lingering effects (not having grown up in Russia, for example, to be better prepared for such smiling-faced government brutality), to relate in my own small way.

    I understand she’s since forgiven him, but I was wrong to ‘gloss over it’ myself, in my eagerness for a sense of belonging to a political ‘team’ or ‘tribe’.

    In a way, that “brief period” of injustice could be said to have been a harbinger of the much more widespread infringements of liberty to come under Covid. From what was tolerated – or overlooked – then, to what was tolerated in the last five years, to what may yet be tolerated in years to come.


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  10. Esme says:
    November 2, 2024 at 6:50 pm

    I am carrying this over from the Muse Thread to the Open Thread because it is not connected to Hollywood and movies. And the Open Thread is looking a bit lonely. 😉

    🙂

    Soon after, fiddling with the radio channels, I came across Fine Music and it became my new station for my fix of classical music.

    Thank you! It reminds me… I don’t think there’s an emoji for something you’d forgotten – or put out of mind – that you missed, is there?

    I’m very grateful for this site, even if it is only this few of us 🙂


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  11. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 2, 2024 at 7:15 pm

    What Happened To Australia? Australia is no longer what it once was.

    Aussie Cossack

    The Australian government is in a very very weak position (…) When it bans people from performing or speaking, it shows just how desperate the government is


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  12. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 2, 2024 at 7:35 pm

    In the lead-up to the US elections, I have been praying for what really matters.

    These are the facts not just for American voters but also for the world.

    One
    .

    Two
    .

    Three


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  13. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 2, 2024 at 7:57 pm

    It’s a shame I can’t link to James Delingpole’s excellent Psalms series (subscribers only). I’ve been learning a lot from it.

    Esme, I want to respond to some of the points in your comment, but they are not brief replies. I’ll come back to that at some later date.


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  15. Esme says:
    November 2, 2024 at 8:57 pm

    DARTH TRUMP

    Very clever. Can’t deny there’s lots of entertainment in it all


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  17. mh says:
    November 3, 2024 at 11:42 am

    Trump easing favourite

    Sportsbet

    Donald Trump 1.67

    Kamala Harris 2.20


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  18. mh says:
    November 3, 2024 at 11:49 am

    Haaretz | Israel News

    Israel at War Day 393 | Two Israeli Soldiers Killed in North Gaza Combat


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  19. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 3, 2024 at 1:28 pm

    New leader of the Tories
    Same as the Old?

    Kemi Badenoch

    Kemi-1
    .

    Kemi-2
    .

    Kemi-3


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  20. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 3, 2024 at 1:33 pm

    Lara Logan
    February 2024: Testimony in Washington DC

    Award-winning journalist Lara Logan delivers a powerful first-hand account of the censorship and persecution faced by truth-tellers who dare to challenge establishment narratives, underscoring the vital role of free speech in safeguarding the future of freedom itself.

    “For too long, we have allowed non-profit organisations to masquerade as non-partisan media watchdogs, when in fact they are little more than highly paid political propagandists and assassins, whose entire reason for being is to crush anyone who stands in their way. And along with them, the long held and cherished ideas of free speech, free thinking and free minds.”


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  21. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 3, 2024 at 1:44 pm

    Is it safe to use wireless headphones?

    Andrew Huberman

    Andrew Huberman, Ph.D., is a neuroscientist and tenured professor in the Department of Neurobiology and by courtesy, Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Stanford School of Medicine.

    He stopped using Bluetooth earbuds because he experienced lymph swellings behind his ears and felt heat effects, which made him concerned about potential health risks.

    If you can’t view the entire thread, see this.


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  22. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 3, 2024 at 1:47 pm

    How do you know it is Election time?

    Election-1

    Election-2


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  23. Esme says:
    November 3, 2024 at 5:03 pm

    Lara Logan

    They have indeed attacked her sanity:

    A Star Reporter’s Break With Reality

    That’s from the same publication which, nearly a year earlier, was calling for a collective leapfrogging over sundry ‘stages of grief’, a group galloping past mere acknowledgement, let alone accountability.

    Our cloth masks made out of old bandanas wouldn’t have done anything, anyway. But the thing is: We didn’t know.


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  24. Esme says:
    November 3, 2024 at 5:04 pm

    I rarely even look at these publications anymore but this in The Weekend Australian :

    There needs to be a reckoning. Because politicians and bureaucrats had no excuse – hindsight was not needed, as anyone reading these pages would know, the core failings and missteps were obvious early.

    Most politicians were drunk on power and deliberately fuelled fear to underpin their power, and a sensationalist media was complicit.

    “Widely Discredited” Bakersfield Doctors


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  25. Esme says:
    November 3, 2024 at 5:11 pm

    Andrew Huberman

    Good, commonsense advice there. I’ve never used those headphones – thought they made people look like robots.

    I do worry (as if we don’t have enough to worry about, but I do) at times about all the good, trusting people who’ve had half a dozen or more of those shots. I pray for them.

    Good reminder not to be on any devices, or focused on negative “news”, for too much of the day.


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  26. Esme says:
    November 3, 2024 at 5:13 pm

    How do you know it is Election time?

    Great links, kaysee. Let’s all think of the halfway decent people involved, and try to find ways to be uplifting 🙂


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  27. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 3, 2024 at 7:27 pm

    There needs to be a reckoning. Because politicians and bureaucrats had no excuse – hindsight was not needed, as anyone reading these pages would know, the core failings and missteps were obvious early.

    Most politicians were drunk on power and deliberately fuelled fear to underpin their power, and a sensationalist media was complicit.

    Is the writer referring to Global Warming, Covid, Abortion, Euthanasia or lgbtqism?

    Will the same writer, in a year or two, also be calling for the reckoning about a major news item where there have been failings, missteps and complicity by the MSM, Alt Media, governments and politicians for the past year?


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  28. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 3, 2024 at 7:41 pm

    🎕 ┈┈┈┈ 🎕 ┈┈┈┈ 🎕
    And for this Sunday…

    Ora Et Labora?
    Pray About It? Or Just Do It?

    Have you heard the phrase, “Ora et Labora” before? What about the maxim, “Pray as if everything depends on God. And work as if everything depends on you.”

    .

    A Ponderable


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  29. mh says:
    November 3, 2024 at 8:38 pm

    Nicholas J. Fuentes
    @NickJFuentes

    The Conservative Party in the UK just elected a first-generation Nigerian immigrant named Olukemi “Kemi” Badenoch as their leader.

    This is your country on “colorblind meritocracy.”

    https://x.com/NickJFuentes/status/1852687987743584602


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  30. mh says:
    November 4, 2024 at 10:58 pm

    Israeli Settlers Are Coming For Gaza.

    Noah Samsen
    500K subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwyUWyNTOVc


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  31. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 5, 2024 at 4:42 pm

    This is not a site I read, but I came across this link elsewhere and clicked to check. The article was written last year but updated recently.

    Which Australian journalists and politicians have gone on trips to Israel and Palestine?

    The following story is a running list of journalists and politicians who have taken part in organised tours to the Middle East on the dime of lobby groups or governments, or at their own expense. It was last updated on October 16, 2024.

    For decades, Israeli advocacy groups have sent journalists as well as elected and aspiring politicians to the Middle East on what the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies calls the “Journalists’ Mission to Israel”…..

    On the other side of the border, Palestinian advocacy networks have also run tours of their own, albeit without the five-star experience of Israeli trips.


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  32. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 5, 2024 at 4:50 pm

    Israeli police have arrested Eli Feldstein, a top aide to Netanyahu, over allegedly leaking classified information to foreign media.

    What he did.

    More info


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  33. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 5, 2024 at 5:12 pm

    The new leader of the Conservative Party in the UK

    Wrote this article in January 2022
    The Covid vaccine is safe for pregnant women and their babies

    But the science is now crystal clear – the vaccine is safe for pregnant women. There have now been over 100,000 Covid-19 vaccinations during pregnancy in England and Scotland, 160,000 in the US, and millions worldwide. Not a single legitimate concern has been raised about their safety.

    So why the lingering vaccine hesitancy? Much of the blame lies at the door of private messaging apps like WhatsApp and Telegram.


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  34. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 5, 2024 at 5:34 pm

    ‘Final distress call’ from Gaza’s Kamal Adwan Hospital
    as Israel turns facility into kill zone

    Officials from Gaza’s health ministry on 4 November issued a “final distress call” about the dire situation developing in north Gaza’s Kamal Adwan Hospital, which has been under a violent siege by the Israeli army for the past several weeks.

    “Perhaps a last distress call: The occupation forces continue to heavily bombard and destroy Kamal Adwan Hospital, affecting all of its facilities. There are numerous injuries among the medical staff and patients, and the medical teams are unable to move between the hospital departments or save their injured colleagues,” the statement reads.

    “It appears that a decision has been made to execute all the staff who refused to evacuate the hospital.”


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  35. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 5, 2024 at 5:47 pm

    Tedros still doesn’t like critics of Covid vaxx.

    During a recent speech, the WHO Director-General said:

    “It’s time to be more aggressive in pushing back on anti-vaxxers.”


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  36. mh says:
    November 5, 2024 at 7:38 pm

    Instant classic

    ELECTION NIGHT EVE: Why I Am Not Voting For Trump | America First Ep. 1418

    Nicholas J. Fuentes

    https://rumble.com/v5m05l8-america-first-ep.-1418.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp


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  38. mh says:
    November 6, 2024 at 2:20 pm

    Trump takes lead

    THEY’RE EATING THE DOGS – TRUMP REMIX

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52dEVbJYO5E


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  40. mh says:
    November 6, 2024 at 7:24 pm

    Nick’s biggest stream ever

    Streaming now 809K


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  41. mh says:
    November 6, 2024 at 7:50 pm

    Anthony Albanese
    @AlboMP

    Congratulations to President Donald Trump on his election victory.

    Australians and Americans are great friends and true allies.

    Working together, we can ensure the partnership between our nations and peoples remains strong into the future.

    6:19 PM · Nov 6, 2024 · 427.8K Views


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  42. mh says:
    November 6, 2024 at 8:35 pm

    Reuters

    Israel’s rightist government celebrates as Trump claims victory

    JERUSALEM, Nov 6 (Reuters) – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s rightist government celebrated on Wednesday after Republican Donald Trump claimed victory in the U.S. presidential election.

    The outcome is a relief for Netanyahu’s coalition, which has clashed with President Joe Biden’s Democratic administration over the wars in Gaza and Lebanon.
    Congratulating Trump, Netanyahu said the former president was set for “history’s greatest comeback”.

    “Your historic return to the White House offers a new beginning for America and a powerful recommitment to the great alliance between Israel and America,” he said in a statement.

    “This is a huge victory.”

    Far-right ministers in the government also welcomed the results.

    “Yesssss, God bless Trump,” National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, who heads one of two hardline, pro-settler parties in Netanyahu’s coalition, said on X.

    Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, who heads the other pro-settler party, said: “God bless Israel, God bless America.”

    Israel’s settler leaders also welcomed the election results after Biden’s administration imposed sanctions and asset freezes on settler groups and individuals involved in violence against Palestinians in the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

    “We expect to have an ally standing unconditionally beside us as we fight the battles that are a war on the entire West,” Israel Ganz, chairman of the main Yesha settler council, said in a statement to Reuters.


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  43. mh says:
    November 6, 2024 at 9:36 pm

    Elon Musk
    @elonmusk

    I agree that we should not empower neocon warmongers

    9:36 AM · Nov 6, 2024 · 770.9K Views

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1853944431512314093


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  44. mh says:
    November 6, 2024 at 9:38 pm

    AP declares it

    With a win in Wisconsin, Trump cleared the 270 electoral votes needed to clinch the presidency.


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  45. mh says:
    November 6, 2024 at 10:01 pm

    Bring back the Cossack Elon!

    George Galloway
    497K subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD2g8w8lOn0


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  48. mh says:
    November 7, 2024 at 1:22 am

    Tears at the Age

    Trump conveyed a message of racism, misogyny, grievance and fear. It’s resonated

    Farrah Tomazin

    ***

    ‘I am your retribution’: Why angry America voted to blow up democracy

    When Biden took power, he said he would try to save US democracy. He and Harris have failed.

    Peter Hartcher
    Political and international editor

    😭


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  50. mh says:
    November 7, 2024 at 8:26 am

    There is another yuuuge story

    Raygun retires after Olympic backlash

    Raygun said the reaction to her Paris performance had been so upsetting that she would no longer compete.


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  51. mh says:
    November 7, 2024 at 9:18 am

    Bernie Sanders
    @BernieSanders
    ·
    It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them.

    While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change.

    And they’re right.

    https://x.com/BernieSanders/status/1854271157135941698

    ***

    Attached is Bernie’s official statement.


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  52. mh says:
    November 7, 2024 at 10:45 am

    Email from Trump:

    Dear Patriot,

    I have one thing to say before anything else – THANK YOU. You have taken a stand for our nation. Together we will unleash American Greatness. We had a historic night last night, a moment we will never forget!

    Only one book outlines my plan for American success – SAVE AMERICA. This beautiful coffee table book is filled with hundreds of photos and captions, all selected and written by ME!

    Have you had a chance to order a copy of SAVE AMERICA for you and your family?


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  55. mh says:
    November 7, 2024 at 3:49 pm

    Via Information Liberation

    From The Times of Israel, “79% of US Jews voted for Harris, according to largest preliminary exit poll”:

    The first rule of exit polls is to be careful about interpreting early exit polls, which aren’t always accurate.

    The second rule is that, for now at least, they represent the best information we have about the question occupying Jews of all political persuasions: How many Jews voted for Donald Trump? And how many voted for Kamala Harris?

    In recent decades, between 20 percent and 30% of American Jews have supported Republicans in national elections. The GOP hit a high-water mark in 1980 when Ronald Reagan won some 40% of Jewish votes, but the more typical split makes Jews among the most reliably Democratic demographics in the United States.

    But this year, with some Jews feeling alienated from the left and others all-in on the right due to Israel, some speculated that Trump could post an unusually strong showing among Jewish voters.

    Initial polls suggest that is not the case. The National Election Pool, which produces an exit poll for a consortium of major news organizations, found that 79% of Jews said they voted Democratic, compared to 21% who voted Republican.

    […] If accurate, the National Election Pool’s result would be the lowest proportion of Jewish votes for a Republican presidential candidate in 24 years.

    Apart from the Eating The Dogs brilliance, Trump spent his campaign glazing Jews and Israel.


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  56. mh says:
    November 7, 2024 at 6:06 pm

    Cold-Hands says:
    November 7, 2024 at 1:56 pm
    Powerline’s Mid-Week in Pictures: Day After Edition.

    Thanks.

    Memes being rehashed from 2016 suggest Trump just isn’t that divisive anymore with Americans.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2024/11/Screenshot-2024-11-06-at-12.22.16%E2%80%AFPM.png


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  57. mh says:
    November 7, 2024 at 8:46 pm

    Haaretz

    Fans from Paris St Germain’s Boulogne Kop unveiled a giant ‘Free Palestine’ banner before the kickoff of their Champions League game against Atletico Madrid on Wednesday, eight days before France take on Israel in Paris in a Nations League game.

    “War on the pitch, but peace in the world,” a message underneath said.

    During the match, they unrolled another message that read: “Does a child’s life in Gaza mean less than another?”

    PSG said they had not been aware “of any plans to display such a message”.


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  58. mh says:
    November 7, 2024 at 10:36 pm

    Looks like Nick has been trolling big time

    Nicholas J. Fuentes
    @NickJFuentes

    Your body, my choice. Forever.

    2:19 PM · Nov 6, 2024 · 18.2M Views

    https://x.com/NickJFuentes/status/1854015641218355621


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  59. mh says:
    November 8, 2024 at 8:48 am

    Ian Miles Cheong
    @stillgray

    Israeli soldiers are celebrating the victory of Donald Trump.

    https://x.com/stillgray/status/1854196575368565173

    ***

    But the MSM narrative will be this was a victory for Putin, even though Trump is led by the nose by his Israeli billionaire donors like Adelson.

    Age cartoon


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  61. mh says:
    November 8, 2024 at 5:10 pm

    Foreign interference is only from Russia of course

    AIPAC 🇺🇸🇮🇱🎗️
    @AIPAC

    AIPAC endorsed 362 candidates and won in every primary we had a candidate on the ballot!

    We helped our friends win and defeated 11 anti-Israel candidates.

    Being pro-Israel is good policy and good politics! 🇺🇸🇮🇱

    https://x.com/AIPAC/status/1854235151795929322


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  62. mh says:
    November 8, 2024 at 8:13 pm

    Israeli soccer fans attacked in ‘very violent incident’ in Amsterdam

    Amsterdam: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered two rescue planes be sent to the Netherlands on Friday after violence targeting Israeli soccer fans broke out in Amsterdam.

    Videos circulating on social media showed street clashes and riot police intervening.

    The order to send planes was taken after “a very violent incident” targeting Israeli citizens following the game between Ajax Amsterdam, traditionally identified as a Jewish club, and Maccabi Tel Aviv, his office said.

    A witness captured a video verified by Reuters showing a group of men running near Amsterdam central station, chasing and assaulting other men, as police sirens sounded. …

    Hmmm … violence between football club supporters.

    Very hard to believe.


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  63. mh says:
    November 8, 2024 at 9:51 pm

    I can view the clip on this one

    Fuentes Updates
    @FuentesUpdates

    Women lose again! Your body, OUR CHOICE 😂 that ceiling is made out of BRICK!

    https://x.com/FuentesUpdates/status/1854012747027189907


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  64. mh says:
    November 9, 2024 at 12:26 pm

    Jews behaving badly

    Israeli Fans Cause Chaos In Amsterdam

    Smile 2 Jannah
    1.03M subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siqJvX1vFEU


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  65. mh says:
    November 9, 2024 at 1:10 pm

    Racist Israeli Football Thugs RAMPAGE In Amsterdam – And Media LIES

    Owen Jones
    646K subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clHlvgOPrWY


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  66. Esme says:
    November 9, 2024 at 2:04 pm

    For something uplifting (I can’t link to it but) this from The Weekend Australian :

    “One sure-fire way to escape the deadeye misery of national or American politics is to stand in cold, drizzling rain and dive into seawater……solace…rhythm…people and place.”

    Yes. Can relate, completely. It was the only thing in the paper that I read in its entirety.


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  67. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 9, 2024 at 2:37 pm

    I’m carrying this across from the Digital ID thread. Although the two topics are connected, it is better to separate the comments related to the MAD bill from the Digital ID.

    In addition to this Digital ID, the government is also trying to rush through its Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation Bill 2024.

    While many Australians, along with most of the world, were distracted by some global happenings, the government here had other plans.

    It took up the Misinformation and Disinformation (MAD) Bill for debate.

    The NO camp

    Bob Katter

    Keith Pitt


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  68. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 9, 2024 at 2:40 pm

    It passed the House of Reps with 73 Labor Ministers and 6 Independents who voted YES for the bill to pass its second reading.

    These are the YES voting MPs.

    Yes-1

    Yes-2

    Yes-3


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  69. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 9, 2024 at 2:49 pm

    It will be in the Senate for debate from Monday. Will there be enough dissent there to block it? The result is in the hands of the crossbench Senators.

    ‘Deeply flawed’: Truth bill on the brink in Senate showdown

    But independent senators including David Pocock, Jacqui Lambie, Tammy Tyrrell, Fatima Payman and Gerard Rennick are holding out against the plan, putting it on course for defeat even if Labor gains support from the Greens…..

    Senators said they were receiving hundreds of emails and calls from voters who opposed the draft law because they believed the Australian Communications and Media Authority should not have the power to check the controls on social media content.

    We can safely take Rennick’s vote as NO. It may be good to keep up the pressure (politely) on the other crossbenchers to also vote NO. But you can contact the other crossbench senators and request them to vote NO to this bill.

    Free Speech Union has a quick tool to help out.

    You can also contact any of the Senators to say that you oppose the bill.


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  70. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 9, 2024 at 2:57 pm

    Some in the LNP are coming out and voicing their opposition to the bill.

    Alex Hawke

    But I think they still support some kind of control over free speech.

    Uniparty Dutton

    Uniparty Agenda


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  71. mh says:
    November 9, 2024 at 7:52 pm

    Behind the Scenes Meeting with TRUMP | Christian Trump supporter SENDS HEARTFELT MESSAGE TO MUSLIMS

    TheDeenShowTV
    751K subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTjGF1pBOOo


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  72. mh says:
    November 9, 2024 at 8:22 pm

    Nicholas J. Fuentes
    @NickJFuentes

    They turned it into a tiktok audio

    Nov 8, 2024 · 1.7M Views

    https://x.com/NickJFuentes/status/1854616815931900066


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  74. mh says:
    November 10, 2024 at 10:59 am

    30 mins of gold

    Your Body, My Choice

    Nicholas J. Fuentes
    114K followers

    https://rumble.com/v5na9cq-your-body-my-choice.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp


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  75. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 10, 2024 at 1:32 pm

    A long comment – split into 4 parts.

    1/
    These past few years have seen so many major events. There was Covid. Then the Ukraine war. The US elections and the Middle East conflict. As well as other matters and topics of concern. So much happening here in Australia as well as globally.

    From the viewpoint of a blogger, plenty of fodder to post on. For a serious blogger, each of the major events had layers to it. Unravelling and digging for facts became an unending flow of information to be understood and then passed on.

    The emphasis is on the serious blogging. Sitting at a computer and just shooting off responses to whatever is posted is a different kind of commentating. But if the focus is on news and in-depth analysis, it is another area altogether.

    I realised long ago that MSM does not provide the truth – it tells you whatever its puppet masters want you to know. In order to find the facts, you have to be prepared to put in the work. So I’ve done the digging to get the facts for myself. But when you know the truth and there is a platform to share it, it would be wrong to not pass it on.


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  76. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 10, 2024 at 1:40 pm

    2/
    I like reading and researching to find answers for my knowledge. But posting on the blog, requires further research, fact checking, writing drafts, editing, proof-reading. I don’t work for a media company, I don’t have access to databases and paywalled info, I don’t have research assistants, editors and proof readers to assist me. I do it all myself with just a device (computer) and internet access, in my limited spare time. I do it as a volunteer — as do any others who post here. No payment received or expected from the blog owner, or any other source, for what I post here. Not one cent. There are no perks such as Likes, Upvotes, Followers, Fame or Freebies.

    It is done as an anonymous truth-seeker, sharing on the blog for other truth-seekers. I keep coming across info that makes me stop and think; I pass that on for others who also have a thirst for analysis and learning.

    In the online world, there are some people with very sharp minds. Their opinions, research and discussions assist in critical analysis. Reading their comments and observations has helped me learn and clarify my thinking process. It keeps me aware of the reality of any news story, not the MSM narratives. I try to bring over to the blog some of these viewpoints so that those with a similar desire for truth can also benefit from these varied mind-sets and positions. This helps to better understand the news and events taking place.


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  77. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 10, 2024 at 1:45 pm

    3/
    I have several topics (politics and non politics) that I would like to post on or take up for discussion, including the US elections this week. But these past few years have been intense, news-wise. I’ve reached a point where I am feeling exhausted. I can’t go on at the same pace, posting several comments a week, as well as writing articles (posts) for the blog. I need to take a break.

    I am not ditching the blog. I am not running off to another site – there isn’t one I could go to, even if I wanted to do so. Or if there is one, I haven’t come across it. And I don’t have the spare time. So, no, I am not off to other blogging pastures.

    I’m just taking a break from the constant news cycle.
    Starting tomorrow.


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  78. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 10, 2024 at 1:52 pm

    4/
    I know it isn’t fair to leave a couple of regular posters, mh and Esme, to keep the blog running. Cold-Hands adds to the blog with the Week in Pics on the weekend and if there are any mid-week. So, I hope, if we do have any other serious readers on this blog they will be willing to step in and take part.

    The matter we post here is not the kind that will interest those who like scrolling sites for mere entertainment. If, as an analytical reader, the content on this site appeals to you, think about joining in. It is hard for a few of us to keep carrying the blog as we are all busy but still try and find the time to contribute here.

    We are in a battle against the WEF-fing globalists and you have to decide if you are with them, supporting their agenda through silence and passivity, or against them and ready to do something, in small ways, by helping others get Aware, Awake and Active.

    I will try to come in to post the Sunday evening faith-related reflections.


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  80. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 10, 2024 at 2:55 pm

    Amsterdam-4
    Sky News reported the truth.
    Then deleted it.
    .

    Amsterdam-5
    (Turn on subtitles for the English translation)
    While the experienced media are afraid to report the truth, this is 14 year old journalist, OmeBender reporting as it was happening.

    Some comments below the video:

    – This young kid just humiliated Sky News and CNN and BBC. Keep it up, folks!

    – This is what journalism has become. When a teenager is more trustworthy than the one-sided MSM.

    – A 13 year old boy showing the complete Western Mainstream News how to do it. Thank you brave Dutch boy❤👑

    – Am I the only one who thinks it’s quite bizarre that hooligans from a foreign football team would come to my city and tell me whether I can film something or not. And threaten me: “for you own safety!”

    Amsterdam-6


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  81. Esme says:
    November 10, 2024 at 3:45 pm

    I will try to come in to post the Sunday evening faith-related reflections.

    This is enough, surely, kaysee. More than enough. It’s just my opinion, but I think people should be free to contribute whatever they can, big or small, frequent or infrequent – no pressure.

    It’s all voluntary, after all, as you say, and it seems to be just the four of us – and that that’s unlikely to change (I hesitated to write that, as one of your previous call-outs for contributors did catch me 🙂 but…) It seems to me that this isn’t a blog that’s going to draw a lot of contributors/commenters.

    I’ve reached a point where I am feeling exhausted. I can’t go on at the same pace, posting several comments a week, as well as writing articles (posts) for the blog. I need to take a break.

    Please do! I feel it too, and I haven’t contributed nearly as much, or as in-depth research and commentary as you.

    Apart from mh’s diligent daily updates, it’s as you describe – more about being a record, a compilation of research and commentary of topics you’ve outlined. And if that’s so, then there needn’t be any pressure to shoot off updates and comments on everything all the time.

    serious blogging. Sitting at a computer and just shooting off responses to whatever is posted is a different kind of commentating. But if the focus is on news and in-depth analysis, it is another area altogether.

    I’m aware that I’ve been “guilty” of the reactive commentating you describe, and I’d like to do more of the serious, considered stuff. I think it’d be a better use of my time, and help me to contribute something more meaningful, as well as avoid the exhaustion of keeping up with the news cycle.

    I’m busy with a number of things IRL over coming weeks – and I need more time to recharge, by diving into seawater etc 🙂 – but when I do have the time, I’d like to have a closer look at the mis/dis bill and digital ID, for example.


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  82. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 10, 2024 at 5:03 pm

    (I hesitated to write that, as one of your previous call-outs for contributors did catch me 🙂 but…)

    My guess is that there may be two or three others, like you, who are also critical thinkers but for some reason are hesitant to take the first few uncomfortable steps that all of us face when we begin somewhere as newbies.

    If I repeat my call-outs, it is to let them know that they are welcome to join in.

    I’m aware that I’ve been “guilty” of the reactive commentating you describe, and I’d like to do more of the serious, considered stuff.

    Oh, no. I wasn’t referring to your comments. You are sharing your opinions which add to the conversation. Shooting off responses doesn’t happen on this blog.

    I was trying to find some examples – sometimes, I read an article on the a site, say, Sky News, and then check the comments. Instead of responding to something in the article, there will be some commenters who are only there for the back and forth sniping and jeering. It is some kind of pleasure being rude, abusive or annoying.


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  83. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 10, 2024 at 5:19 pm

    It’s just my opinion, but I think people should be free to contribute whatever they can, big or small, frequent or infrequent – no pressure.

    Correct. But there is another issue here. We are just a few of us contributing to this site. If there is not much blogging taking place here, say we have just 10 or 15 comments per month on the Open Thread. No one is writing Posts/articles for the blog. Is there any point in a blog that does not have much activity?

    Adam could well decide that it is better to close it down. Why would he continue to pay the costs on a blog which is not being used? In which case we lose this free speech platform where we have a chance to meet and communicate. To have a pool of news, info, opinions shared by different commenters.

    The blog is not going to stay open and running if there are no committed contributors to keep it going. So the concept of voluntary is ideal in theory, but in practise, all lurkers and no posters will mean that there is nothing to read.


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  84. Esme says:
    November 10, 2024 at 5:48 pm

    back and forth sniping

    Well, I’ll put my hand up again and say that (while never being anywhere solely for it, and certainly not out of pleasure) I might be accused of that too on occasion, though arguably “rude, abusive or annoying” is sometimes in the eye of the beholder (or blogholder? 🙂 ).

    If I may offer a small defence of those pesky “snipers” 🙂 , “harsh”-sounding comments/responses often come from a place of exasperation at having enjoyed the little “oasis” of a rare piece of writing that reflects your thoughts and beliefs in this unreal world, only to be met with a “chorus” of comments which seem to turn the whole thing back on itself. It can almost seem as though somehow the article’s only “allowed” to have its say if the “acceptable chorus” can then do its job of countering it.

    We’re surrounded by a wall of “mainstream”/”allowed opinion” in our everyday lives as it is, so it can seem a cruel blow to find it in supposedly “likeminded” online spheres too. An anticipated opportunity for “conversation” – “oasis” – lost.

    It is another prompt to stay away from attempted conversation in “comments”, though, and focus on more serious, considered commentary. As I’ve often said here, we – many of us, anyway – don’t know each other. And rejoinders to strangers on a blog don’t go down as well as in conversation in person, with people who know and understand each other.

    And I am also reminded of something one of my favorite uni lecturers said of debating/persuasive writing – that he didn’t engage in online “conversation” (back-and-forth comments) on something he’d written, as he accepted that he’d had his chance to set out his argument, and he was humble enough to acknowledge that he may be wrong (though I didn’t really think he was).


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  85. Esme says:
    November 10, 2024 at 5:52 pm

    Adam could well decide that it is better to close it down.

    That would be a shame. But it can’t really be helped if it’s only we few, and we aren’t enough.


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  86. Esme says:
    November 10, 2024 at 6:38 pm

    I see they refer to this as the “anti-Semitic Cat”.

    Sigh. This is what I mean; this is what we’re surrounded by.


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  87. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 10, 2024 at 7:03 pm

    Twitter is now seen as the benchmark in free speech platforms. In many ways it does offer a site for everyone – from famous bigwigs to the average folk. And there is good material to be found there, if one knows where to look.

    But, this afternoon, I came across another one of those discussions there. A number of regulars are not happy with the way the algorithms are set. They don’t have the same rules for all. Some accounts are amplified and get big coverage, others are sidelined. For all the talk of free speech, there are accounts that are being banned or shadow banned due to the truth that they are telling on certain topics like the war in the Middle East.

    The person who started the discussion has a big account – quarter million followers. Others who chimed in also had accounts ranging from half million followers and above. Even those who have other avenues, like their own shown on YouTube or other sites, like George Galloway, have been critical of what is taking place on twitter.

    It is not as free speech as it is made out to be. There is censorship on certain topics. For some it is about gaining more followers, posting anything to get “engagement” so as to gain fame and earn some money.

    We have a small site here – free speech as long as the basic rules are followed. It would be a shame if it shuts down.


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  88. mh says:
    November 10, 2024 at 7:10 pm

    Good news

    Nicholas J. Fuentes
    @NickJFuentes

    Trump announces that Nikki Haley and Mike Pompeo will not be returning— excellent news.

    This is a good start but neither of them should have even been in consideration to begin with. The other options aren’t looking much better.

    https://x.com/NickJFuentes/status/1855407118758584685


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  89. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 10, 2024 at 7:29 pm

    Well, I’ll put my hand up again and say that (while never being anywhere solely for it, and certainly not out of pleasure) I might be accused of that too on occasion, though arguably “rude, abusive or annoying” is sometimes in the eye of the beholder (or blogholder? 🙂 ).

    Are you referring to your comments on this blog? I haven’t seen it that way.

    In good debates and discussions, disagreements are over the points in the topic being discussed. The moment it turns personal, as in the personal criticism and abuse of the people in the discussion, that is when it has gone off the rails.

    Sigh. This is what I mean; this is what we’re surrounded by.

    In some ways it is good not to have too much of spare time. I have to carefully choose where and how I spend my online time.

    What we are surrounded by doesn’t matter.
    The truth matters. Our moral code matters. Our values matter.

    Holding on to what is right and just matters, even if the rest of the world disagrees.

    Speaking the truth about the genocide matters.


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  90. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 10, 2024 at 7:34 pm

    There are the Amsterdam links posted above.

    Here are some Gaza links.

    Gaza-1

    “This mother was going to the market and when she returned to school she was surprised to find that everyone in the place had been killed, in addition to her children from the Shabat family.”

    Gaza-2

    “I’m really shaken to my core…Gaza is destroyed, there is no other way to describe it”

    Gaza-3
    OHCHR report stats


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  91. mh says:
    November 10, 2024 at 7:38 pm

    I see they refer to this as the “anti-Semitic Cat”.

    Very lame.
    Are you referring to another Cat site? (NO links please).
    I hope it’s not the men from Sinc’s Cat, they would have come up with something better. The Verboten Cat.


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  92. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 10, 2024 at 7:38 pm

    mh, have you followed the discussion, upthread?

    You may be the only regular poster on this blog. I know it isn’t fair to leave you with it.

    What do you think about this?


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  94. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 10, 2024 at 7:56 pm

    The Mis-Dis Info Bill

    I posted yesterday a link to an article about the crossbench senators who seem to be holding out their vote. Can we count on them? They may just be wanting to get something in return for their vote.

    They voted for the Digital Bill earlier this year.

    The Senate will be voting between 25th — 28th November, but it could be as early as the 18th November. So contact the senators over the coming week to keep up the pressure.

    Joanne Howe
    Labor knows the misinformation bill is deeply unpopular

    Next election
    Australians have ONE JOB and ONE JOB alone come May 2025.


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  95. mh says:
    November 10, 2024 at 7:58 pm

    KC, I’m not trying to keep the blog open.
    If Adam closes it, I will just move on – most likely get an X account.
    But I prefer posting here.


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  96. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 10, 2024 at 8:02 pm

    🎕 ┈┈┈┈ 🎕 ┈┈┈┈ 🎕
    And for this Sunday….

    Oh, Who Can Know the Mind of God

    .

    A Ponderable


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  97. kaysee kaysee says:
    November 10, 2024 at 8:14 pm

    If Adam closes it, I will just move on – most likely get an X account.
    But I prefer posting here.

    The same with me. I like this blog. If it closes due to lack of participation, that’s it. I don’t have the spare time to join other blogs.

    It is going to be an experiment to see how this proceeds.
    There is so much to post on, but I do need to take this break.


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  98. Esme says:
    November 10, 2024 at 8:27 pm

    Are you referring to your comments on this blog?

    No, it made me think of another site, where an excellent article about how a person could hardly be expected to celebrate the “victory” (selection) of the “Father of the Vaccines” (dancing on the graves of the murdered and maimed [family, friends, coworkers among them, for some of us], was how yet another site put it).

    But then the most liked comment was doing the whole “subtle” pulling back into “the fold” of “oh my cynicism was just a momentary misstep; really I’m happy that the “Father of the Vaccines” has ‘won'(and so should you be) – everyone just needs to be happy…about something”. A bit like the insidious concept of “vaccine hesitancy” – the tyranny of the “kindly nurse”, putting her arm around you and assuring you that “you’ll come around eventually”.


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  99. Esme says:
    November 10, 2024 at 8:40 pm

    Are you referring to another Cat site?

    Yes, the relentlessly, virulently “pro-Israel, pro-Father of the Vaccines” one.

    In some ways it is good not to have too much of spare time. I have to carefully choose where and how I spend my online time.

    What we are surrounded by doesn’t matter.
    The truth matters. Our moral code matters. Our values matter.

    Holding on to what is right and just matters, even if the rest of the world disagrees.

    Speaking the truth about the genocide matters.

    Thanks for this. I have tried to persist in “scrolling past” on some other sites to see things that might be of interest, but the propaganda’s so strong, so pervasive, it seems like a sort of brainwashing of its own. You two probably have the right idea in not looking at all; not worth it, for mental wellbeing!

    If this site closes, perhaps we can share X handles and follow each other on there.


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  100. mh says:
    November 10, 2024 at 9:14 pm

    Yes, the relentlessly, virulently “pro-Israel, pro-Father of the Vaccines” one.

    lol

    I suspect they were all watching Rowan Dean on ‘Outsiders’ this morning.

    Dean works with the Australian Jewish Association, but promotes himself as an outsider. And is employed by Murdoch, a FUNDER of Netanyahu.

    But each to their own.


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