Bit of a rougher start than expected. I will log off until tomorrow morning so if you have any comments to fix the site moving forward throw them in here to keep the open thread a little less cluttered.
Very excited that the cat will live on, completely exceeded my expectations so far.
shouldn’t it be catallaxy files 3.0?
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Well done Adam
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Thanks for everything. Full confidence going forward.
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Joe has a dream:
David Bowie – Saviour Machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-AMec7yr7c
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Glad to join the continuation.
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Count me IN .
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Well done Adam.
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I am here?
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Good!
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No?
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<blockquoteVery excited that the cat will live on…
Well, this only proves that cats DO have several lives, after all.
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“Very excited that the cat will live on”
Hope the old and some new authors come on board unless they are waiting for Dot’s site.
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Testing
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This is testing.
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Testing, testing. Is this thing turned on? (Screeeeech)
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Adam D:
Thanks for the work you’ve put in.
No format buttons yet,
The site goes to the start not the comment after commenting.
Using Brave on Win 7 Home Premium – SP1 if that helps.
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I’m still here.
Hope everyone else makes it!
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Folks, I think this is the thread for politely informing Adam of any glitches.
The open fred is where the usual riff-raff are marking their territory on the new furniture.
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Hmmm….just posted on the Open Thread and it didn’t appear.
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“The open fred is where the usual riff-raff are marking their territory on the new furniture.”
Indeed, Roger needs to get a life. 😁
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Testies
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TEST
TEST
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Where do I send money?
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Looking good
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“so if you have any comments to fix the site moving forward ”
Yes. permanently ban Steve from Brisbane.
Trust me on this.
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I wonder if I’m here.
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I wonder if I’m here.
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Test-
Can I be the first to ask, how do I imbed a You Tube video so that it shows as an open window in the body of the thread? 😉
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Adam,
Well done, you’ve got the most important functions going and have given people a home. If you need any financial help just let me know.
The suggestions I have is that at some stage, when you get your head above water –
-Provide a function to allow photos to be posted to a comment. Probably would have to limit the photo data size or number per commentator (to avoid exceeding data limits) which might complicate the implementation of the facility.
-Allow a like/dislike/confused/funny/sad tag per comment which would increment when commenters clicked on them. The Asiannow blog site( https://aseannow.com) is an example of what I am suggesting.
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I’d like up votes for Cassie, Dot, the other Chris m and Salvatore and down votes for Monty & his other monikers please
number of comment displayed so I can refer by number
laugh symbol would also be great
most voted positive three comments float at op of open thread …. ok I’ll stop now
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Chrism,
On the old site, and on this sites once a link button is supplied, I always grab the link address of the date and time of the comment I’m responding to, start with the name of the poster, and make the name into a link.
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Speaking of links and such, I have always mourned the lack of reply threads, especially in the open threads. I assumed this was deliberate on the old site, to force everyone to at least skim over all of the comments. All very democratic, but it made catching up on huuuge open threads an onerous task. I had the next-to-last thread back there open for a couple of days trying to find out what was happening, if anything, to keep the Cat alive. So I whiled way many hours, only to find that there was a new open thread.
An option to view posts in reply-threads would be loverly.
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Amazing work over a weekend Adam. Kudos and thank you.
I expect that there will be a fair few constructive comment, gripes and whines . This is prob an agile endeavour.. so into the backlog, prioritise, and ask for help.
I am sure that users will be happy to accept some downtime as you will tweak the platform.
Again – thank you.
[And Dot… you too. Brilliant work mate!]
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Thanks Adam I put my suggestion re remember me square on wrong thread.
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Test 1002pm
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Hi Adam. Is this a WPX site? Do you have other sites with them?
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My major issues/hassles:
1. Getting rid of 10-minute delay before comments appear — nothing else matter until that is fixed. It’s the big daddy of the new site’s problems.
2. Restoring comment formatting buttons and the comment preview function.
3. Restoring comment location tracking in the browser instead of defaulting to the top of the file/thread.
4. Restoring the “remember me” tickable box beneath the “leave a reply” field so we don’t have to enter our details everytime we post.
Thanks again for your labour of love, Adam.
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Aha! I notice this thread is set up with comments appearing instantly instead of with the 10-minute delay on the open thread.
All the other hassles still apply.
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Spoke too soon: 10-minute delay applies here, too.
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For crying out loud, no like/dislike buttons! This is not Facebook or a popularity contest.
No idea on what’s involved re the mechanics of it all but would probably add unnecessary complexity, which means more things to go wrong.
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Adam, good job, but don’t forget about applying the SSL to the site and serving it from https, not http.
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For crying out loud, no like/dislike buttons! This is not Facebook or a popularity contest.
Agree, 123andBush. Apart from anything, it would add complexity to the site architecture, would create just another thing that could go wrong and increase the technical maintenance burden.
Simplicity must be king.
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An idea if it’s possible – allow editing of a comment for a couple of minutes after posting. Often immediately after clicking “submit”, with a quick re-reading, typos or auto-correct turns something into mush, or a “not” has been left out that makes a sentence mean the opposite of the intention. Editing would need to be limited to only a couple of minutes, so the comment couldn’t be altered after others may have responded to it.
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Just noticed – when I hit “submit” the comments page jumps to the top. The old cat remained at the last comment.
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Test.
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G’day Adam. Is there something I do or you can do that will get that little purple patterned graphic to appear on the top left of my comments ( whatever those are called) as per the old Cat?
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Hmmm, interesting, both the comment of about 9:23am which did show and the latter of 9:26am that did not show, are not showing. Wonder how this one goes(?)
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Adam, I’ve just noticed the new Cat appears to be herding comments in groups of 50 — a setting designed for websites with much less traffic.
Comments in groups of 250 worked well on the most recent old Cat.
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Hi Adam
Top job, much appreciated.
Please make sure we have a safe means to contribute financially.
For the tech log.
My first comment, which should eventually appear near the top of a new page, on refresh to see whether the comment published, sent me back to the bottom of the previous old page, where I was when writing the comment. No visible means to navigate forward.
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Test.
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“Please make sure we have a safe means to contribute financially.”
And please be aware that PayPal is going woke and wants to “limit” people with a conservative viewpoint from sending/receiving money via them.
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Adam & Dot,
Sinc is a purist, and so did not carry advertising. I see no reason why the new version of the Cat should not do so.
On my screens there’s a wide space on the left and the right where inobtrusive advertising could be posted. I don’t know how this would appear on people’s phones or pads, but on laptop and PC this would go well.
I use Brave with its innate adblocker, but I unblock any site for which I would love for Goolag to fund the VRWC. (I especially like the Greenpeace ads on WUWT.)
Likewise WP has a Paypal widget that can be set up.
Thanks for your hard work. On site stuff I think the spam blocker may not like the .gmx domain of my email address (which is a working email address, via which you’re welcome to contact me on). Not totally sure yet: some comments go through, some seem to report to the spam folder on evidence of their behaviour.
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Thanks Adam & Dot for your efforts.
I’ll be happy with whatever model you come up with.
Cheers
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Adam & Dot – Another for your list.
The old Cat had a setting allowing 3 links before going to moderation. The current default setting seems to be one link.
Not sure what the best number is. Three was a holy number on the Cat for an amazing length of time. I should buy a replica of Brother Maynard’s holy hand grenade.
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Lag time between comment post and comment appearance on the open thread is four minutes.
Adam, when do you expect comments will appear immediately as they are posted?
I imagine there are still a number of coding hurdles to overcome.
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Aha! That comment at 4.53pm appeared immediately it was posted. Progress!
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Thanks, Adam. Hope this works.
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Improvement suggestions:
The old Çat is unworkable at the National Library site, with broken links once you click a little way in. (I found that since there were a few threads I wished to catch up on.) At least one of us has old bookmarks that no longer work.
I think, Adam, you took a scrape of the old site before it was disappeared. Perhaps it can be placed at https://catallaxy-files.com/b/* so that it is possible to navigate (and even use old links with minimal tweaking).
Long live The Çat!
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Also: the length of time a thread is open. Sinc had it at 8-9 days; my personal preference is around four days. That would also mean two open threads to cover a week, which could be set up, I imagine. If a mid-week thread opened at 3:30 AM, it would mean Tom’s toons take pride of place. 🙂
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m0nty says:
August 2, 2021 at 11:39 pm
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Whoops.
Ok, so it all works. Good.
From the open thread
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I put a version of these comments on the open thread but I think they are more applicable here:
#1. We need a simple way to quote, bold, italicise, strike-through, underline, and hot-link web addresses on our comments for those of us who aren’t conversant with the finer points of web coding.
#2.Being able to edit what you have written after hitting the “post comment” button.
#3. No sock puppets. You make a comment, you stand by that comment, don’t back it up with a sock, or multiple socks.
#4. Perhaps create a separate thread dedicated to more ‘out there’ discussions that aren’t fit for the Open Thread or would derail the Open Thread. Somewhere for Bird and his ilk to sound off on. Perhaps call it ‘The Asylum’ or “The Colosseum”. 😉
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Wondering about formatting.
italics bold
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Will the old guard of posting contributors be allowed on board?
Asking for a friend.
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I think the answer is yes, Rafe.
There hasn’t be a coup by the ruling class (unlike in broader Australia). The old king (His Doomlordship) just abdicated because he was tired.
Those remaking the Cat are lovers of liberty and freedom like you.
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Adam
Please let me know if you received my message via this website contact facility
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Hey Adam,
what is going on with the formatting options? The options aren’t appearing above the comment box when (I am – but apparently not everybody) leaving a reply?
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Yep – sorting now
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A heap to chew through on here.
Changes are done slowly particularly new features. I generally don’t like to roll out vaccines that are more deadly then the disease 🙂
Feedback is appreciated, I am working on things.
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One that just became apparent with the new posts. The Recent posts list only shows five posts. I think we’re used to 20 or 30.
Also the birdie points to what is presumably a defunct Çat 2.0 Twitter account. Perhaps Sinc can do a package deal with the keys to the Twitter account and the old URL? 🙂
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Also, post preview below the dialogue box. Even if none of us seem to use it. 🙂
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I always looked at the post pre-view as it was helpful in picking up mistakes. An edit function for a minute after posting might mean a delay is needed in the comment going , visible, so that people aren’t reply to a comment that has been changed.
Maybe its best not to have an edit function. The glory of the Cat is the fast pace of replies. It carries that sense of a face-to-face interaction. We should learn to proof read and then cope with what we write. Good practice, I reckon, for all writers.
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“Feedback is appreciated, I am working on things.”
You are an absolute honey and we all love you.
Is there somewhere we can send you some flowers. 😀
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“Changes are done slowly particularly new features. I generally don’t like to roll out vaccines that are more deadly then the disease 🙂”
lol. That is the voice of a true Doomlord. On the case, with caution.
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Adam, The Mushroom Whisperer (Bird) is in here again spreading outright anti-Semitism of the sort that could bring the site down.
Two people have left already for the night (Cassie and Delta) because of it; others will too unless this is addressed as an issue on this Catallaxy site too. It was an issue for Sinc and he handled it. Can you handle this too? If not, this site will die.
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Please clean up the bird strike
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Adam, many thanks for your efforts. Can you advise how an author can offer up a post? I am sure many of us have undertaken lots of research on many of the topics discussed herein and would love to write an ‘article’ but how do we offer it up to the ‘editor”?
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OK, I give up, who is the bird?
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Bringing attention to undesirable commenters might be better channeled via the ‘Contact’ feature? If Adam receives multiple notifications with similar subject lines, they might make it higher on the priority list.
Rafe.
Yes, please.
Epicurious.
At the moment, the only means of submitting a potential guest post is via the ‘Contact the Cat’ function in the upper right under ‘Pages.’ You can actually fit a fair amount of text into the dialogue box, along with instructions. Adam will contact you if he needs more info or clarification.
I, and I’m sure many others, would be keen to read a greater variety of posts.
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Adam – looks like the open thread has carked it.
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Great to see your old avatar again, Rabz.
PS: the open thread hasn’t carked it; it’s just been invaded by all the old banned trolls because no-one is in charge.
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Thanks, Tom – I made the observation after trying repeatedly to refresh after I’d posted a comment, to seemingly no avail.
Might make sense to open a new one though, just in case.
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Delighted the Cat lives!
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Adding my voice to the chorus of thanks AdamD.
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This is comment testing.
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Some suggestions when time permits:
1/ Increase the comments from 100 per page to 250.
2/ There have been suggestions to include a Like button.
Please, No. This works on some forums but not here.
3/ Reply button
Replies to comments take place soon after the comment is posted but also much later in the day, or even days later. The commenter and others will not see the replies posted later because the forum has moved on by several comments or even pages.
4/ Identicons from the previous Cat
Is it possible to get the same Identicons from Cat2 moved over to Cat3?
I do not want to create a Gravatar and the identicons make it easier to identify the commenters.
5/ Is it possible to include an Ignore/Block option?
Most of us scroll past some comments. Using that option, we could select the names of those we scroll past and those comments would be blocked out. Would be especially helpful for those who are only able to spend limited time here.
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Adam,
Simply adding a tickable box below the “Leave a comment” field to remember a commenter’s details is now the most urgent of the fixes required, in my estimation.
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