Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

Hi Cats,

As you can see I have created a copy of the Cat for you to continue to bicker, argue and occasionally make a reasonable point.

I do hope a solution is found with the original Cat but just in case Sinc doesn’t want to transfer the site to a new generation I have built a replica before the closure so we can migrate as many of the community across as possible.

Programming Note: I rushed out the site so there will be bugs. I can get them fixed but did not want perfection to get in the way for progress.

Community Note: Please let as many cats know of the new blog as soon as possible so we can capture the magic of the original. In particular would love for the original posters to continue their great work here.

Ideological Note: I am an infrequent poster but long time reader of the Cat. The discussions there have been a huge part of my own ideological growth on many issues. In particular free speech is key for me so will have a very similar light touch to the original Cat, potentially adopting my one policy on an earlier forum I built: “No D***heads” which is subjective but surprisingly easy to implement.

Website Note: I will run the Cat as close to possible as the original because I don’t believe in re-inventing the wheel. However if the community so wants I am happy to make changes to improve the experience so if you have any ideas let me know. For anything specific hit me up at the contact form, else go nuts in the comments.

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3,112 Responses to Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

  1. rickw says:

    m0nty says:
    August 2, 2021 at 3:08 pm
    This sucks. Where are the new threads? Boooo!

    It’s working!


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  2. rickw says:

    Gravitar test to see if my pet submarine is there.

    Nice!


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  3. Speedbox says:

    pingggggg pinggggggg pingggggg

    Full steam ahead Captain, full stream ahead.


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  4. Top Ender says:

    Yay! Vale 80 Japanese submariners dived permanently outside Darwin.


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  5. Eyrie says:

    “The Larry Niven “Gil the Arm” organlegger novels are all coming true. I shall have to read them again.”

    IIRC you went to the organ banks for speeding or running an orange light.


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  6. egg_ says:

    REESE’S CLASSIC DOUGHNUT
    Contains Peanuts

    A doughnut filled with REESE’S Peanut Butter Kreme™, dipped in HERSHEY’S chocolate icing, topped with mini peanut butter chips and a drizzle of chocolate and REESE’S peanut butter sauce.


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  7. cohenite says:

    I miss the pithy little sayings at the top of each new thread; admittedly some were just pissy little sayings but the pithy little sayings more then made up for the pissy little sayings.

    And look everyone at my cool Bessie Love gravatar. I was going to put up a Jane Austen one; maybe I still will on account she was the greatest novelist ever.


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  8. egg_ says:

    Covid Narrative Exploding ReeEEeE Stream 7-30-21
    Salty Cracker
    https://saltmustflow.com/covid-narrative-exploding-reeeeee-stream-7-30-21/

    Worth a re-run


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  9. Top Ender says:

    Your Jane Austen gravatar has escaped, Cohenite.

    Maybe has run off with Mr Darcy.


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  10. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    IIRC you went to the organ banks for speeding or running an orange light.

    These days it’s for not wearing a mask in Coles, or failing to QR.


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  11. cohenite says:

    “Your Jane Austen gravatar has escaped, Cohenite.

    Maybe has run off with Mr Darcy.”

    And now it’s back again because I’m using a different server; amazing innit?


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  12. Eddystone says:

    Saw my first vaxx reaction patient the other night.

    Lethargy, fever, mild hypotension, inappetance.

    Occurred within an hour of the second AZ vacc.

    Had a similar reaction after first jab, but much milder, lasted four days.

    This time “ten times worse”.

    Looks like the doc at ED was going to do a D-dimer to see if the patient has clotting happening.


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  13. Eddystone says:

    Forgot to add, quite a few colleagues are reporting seeing a lot of similar reactions.

    Too early to tell if it’s a real phenomenon or just due to it being a hot topic.


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  14. Entropy says:

    Jeez my phone has copped it today in lockdown


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  15. Vicki says:

    “National cabinet is also considering whether vaccinated people can have greater freedoms during any future lockdowns to avoid stay at home orders.”

    What is absolutely sinister about that is that they damn well know that vaccination does NOT mean they will not be infected with the virus, or transmit it to others.

    Therefore, the ruling would be nothing less than a punishment of those who remain unvaccinated.

    They are progressively betraying those who have supported the supposed ideals of their government. Fatal, fatal miscalculation. Are they REALLY that stupid???


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  16. srr says:

    Gravitar says I exist with them but that I need to activate my account via the email that they keep saying they’ve sent me, but haven’t.
    Is there no other way of getting an avatar up here?


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  17. Makka says:

    “Utter scumbags:”

    Indeed. We are getting vax passports without a doubt. Scummo has left it all up to the state Stasi turds to invoke. And it will be soon, within months. Because the vaxxed will clamor for it and the Premnazis will provide- like in Rome at the Colosseum.

    Already the AFL has flagged it, NRL will also. It will come in for all Govt buildings, schools etc, public transport eventually – any space state Govt controlled. Airports etc. The the carriers. Followed by the big woke outfits- Colesworths, Bunnings et al. Then the big mall owners. Doctors surgeries will be in on it early because there’s $ in it.

    Scummo: “It’s not mandatory but if you don’t you will have no life. Btw, don’t blame me please, ok mate?”


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  18. Eyrie says:

    “These days it’s for not wearing a mask in Coles, or failing to QR.”

    Don’t give them ideas, BoN.


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  19. JMH says:

    Makka @ 4.1 pm: “Scummo: “It’s not mandatory but if you don’t you will have no life. Btw, don’t blame me please, ok mate?”

    So how does that fit our Human Rights?


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  20. Makka says:

    “What is absolutely sinister about that is that they damn well know that vaccination does NOT mean they will not be infected with the virus, or transmit it to others.

    Therefore, the ruling would be nothing less than a punishment of those who remain unvaccinated.”

    Their argument Vicki is that the vax , while not preventing acquiring it or spreading it, WILL prevent serious sickness , hospitalization and death. I’d like to see real uncontaminated data for this so as to make up my own mind. But everything is spin and feelz.


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  21. Runnybum says:

    They sure milking this scariant of the curry flavored conjob..


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  22. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Latest from the OZ on THAT defamation trial.

    “WhatsApp messages reveal Nine witness’s ‘inconsistency’”

    Kieran Gair
    Journalist
    @KieranGair
    55 minutes ago August 2, 2021

    A barrister acting for Ben Roberts-Smith in the war veteran’s defamation trial has urged the Federal Court to admit into evidence WhatsApp messages that allegedly show a key witness for Nine newspapers, Afghan villager Mohammed Hanifa, gave an “inconsistent statement” while under cross-examination last week.

    On Monday, Arthur Moses, SC, acting for Mr Roberts-Smith, said WhatsApp messages obtained by the war veteran’s legal team suggested Mr Hanifa, who claimed he witnessed a “big soldier” kick his step-uncle Ali Jan off a cliff, was told by an Afghan official that he could “receive compensation” for Ali Jan’s death.

    Last week, Mr Hanifa repeatedly denied giving false evidence during cross-examination about a September 2012 raid on Darwan, and the circumstances surrounding the alleged killing of Ali Jan, who he claims was kicked off a cliff by a big “blue-eyed” soldier and then shot dead by Australian troops behind a berry tree.

    In an at times fiery cross-examination, Mr Hanifa was accused by Bruce McClintock, SC, acting for Mr Roberts-Smith, of discussing the possibility of obtaining compensation for Ali Jan’s death with the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission.

    At a case management hearing on Monday, Mr Moses told the court that WhatsApp messages from December last year indicated the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission had “mentioned” to Mr Hanifa that “if Ali Jan is your brother or father, file your complaint” and “compensation will be provided.”

    He said a representative for Nine in Afghanistan had told the media company’s legal team via Whatsapp about the alleged communication between Mr Hanifa and the Afghan Human Rights Commission.

    “The HRC director tells Hanifa some compensation will be provided to affected families by Australians through the HRC in Tarin Kowt,” Mr Moses said.

    “He (was) told that there were two groups against each other and one group is facing justice.”

    When asked by Mr McClintock last week if he had spoken with anyone from the human rights agency about compensation for Ali Jan’s death, Mr Hanifa said: “I haven’t done that, I haven’t talked to anyone.”

    In fact, Mr Moses told the court, the Afghan villager had “spoken to the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission”, had been told that compensation “would be provided to affected families”, and was also told that “if Ali Jan was your father or your brother you could file the complaint.”


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  23. Makka says:

    “So how does that fit our Human Rights?”

    JMH,
    They were thrown out around March last year. Along with our Constitution and Federation. In Australia at least, it was all a mirage, as we can now see.


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  24. Neil says:

    Sky News shows some clips of their shows on Youtube so you don’t need a subscription to see Alan Jones, Andrew Bolt etc. But Youtube has just banned Skynews for a week. This is the reason Youtube give

    “””””””””””””””Sky News Australia has been banned from uploading content to YouTube for seven days after violating its medical misinformation policies by posting numerous videos which denied the existence of Covid-19 or encouraged people to use hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin.”””””””””””””””””””””””


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  25. Steve trickler says:

    I’ll say it again.

    Klaus Schwab is in control of this country.


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  26. Speedbox says:

    Venues will soon be able to ask patrons for proof of coronavirus vaccinations

    Pubs, hairdressers and even sports stadiums could soon be allowed to ask patrons to show proof of Covid vaccination as a condition of entry but only if the states agree to enact new public health orders.

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison has again confirmed the controversial idea is a live option currently being weighed by the national cabinet.

    But he stressed it is currently illegal to ask customers their vaccination status and business owners should not put any restrictions in place until any future reforms are finalised and enacted.

    “The law doesn’t allow for that, I should stress. I mean unless there’s a public health order. Just like it wouldn’t allow someone to be stopped from going to a venue. That’s my advice,” the Prime Minister told 5AA radio in Adelaide.

    “But state governments can put those in place. Phase B of the plan is all about ensuring that those who have been vaccinated do get exempted from restrictions.”

    On Friday, the Prime Minister outlined a new road map for the Covid recovery that requires all the states to get to a 70 per cent target for vaccinations.

    But it’s under the second phase of that road map known as ‘Phase B’ that “special rules” would allow greater freedoms for the vaccinated when the vaccination rate reaches 80 per cent in state jurisdictions.

    Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce warned on Sunday that some business owners wanted the right to ask customers if they have been vaccinated.

    “People in private enterprise are going to say ‘look I’ve got rights here too’,” Mr Joyce told Sky News.

    “’If you want to come into my barber shop, or my childcare facility …then I have a right to say, maybe, have you been inoculated’?

    “And if you say you haven’t, I have got a right as the owner of the shop to say I can’t have you sitting in a seat next to someone who has.”

    The Prime Minister said it was “a fair question” and an issue that was being considered by national cabinet.

    This is exactly what we all said would happen. But how about the bit that “I have got a right as the owner of the shop to say I can’t have you sitting in a seat next to someone who has”. Surely the person who is unvaccinated has the higher risk? Apparently not.

    And as for the matter being considered by National Cabinet, I will bet my socks the matter has already been considered by National Cabinet and a decision to proceed already made.

    These dimwits treat us like children.


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  27. Eddystone says:

    This is the website for the Doherty Institute where you can read the modelling that is used to keep us under lock and key in perpetual fear.

    https://www.doherty.edu.au/

    Here is the link to the Govts latest Influenza Pandemic plan, which they have thrown out the window for covid.

    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/ohp-ahmppi.htm


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  28. rickw says:

    Their argument Vicki is that the vax , while not preventing acquiring it or spreading it, WILL prevent serious sickness , hospitalization and death.

    So even by Governments admission, to vax or not vax is a decision that will only have implications for the individual making the decision. Why are they so heavily invested in forcing vaccination, it is a personal choice, and all available information supports this view.

    They’re a bunch of low rent megalomaniacs.


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  29. Eyrie says:

    “So how does that fit our Human Rights?”

    Australians have NO rights and never did. Anything you want to do is a “privilege”.


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  30. JMH says:

    This is what absolutely shits me about the so-called Governments, federal and state. They KNOW the current vaccines are rife with problems: The vaccines don’t prevent contracting; they don’t prevent spreading and they may well shorten you life. Now they are waving around threats – vaccinated = cool. Unvaccinated, straight to the Leper Colony. Where are our Human Rights? How can this atrocity be allowed to happen in this country?


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  31. rickw says:

    Klaus Schwab is in control of this country.

    What’s with the Germans? If you start two world wars it’s probably time for a century of STFU.


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  32. Cassie of Sydney says:

    Gab says:
    August 2, 2021 at 2:40 pm

    Yes to both Gab.


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  33. Fat Tony says:

    JMH says:
    August 2, 2021 at 4:16 pm
    Makka @ 4.1 pm: “Scummo: “It’s not mandatory but if you don’t you will have no life. Btw, don’t blame me please, ok mate?”

    So how does that fit our Human Rights?

    No guns = no human rights (thank Howard)


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  34. Shy Ted says:

    Excellent headline. Bizarre story. Nothing KRudd and others haven’t done before. but with blankets!!!
    https://dailystormer.su/new-zealand-horse-faced-mommy-does-bizarre-blanket-humiliation-ritual-to-atone-for-deporting-visa-overstayers/


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  35. Makka says:

    “Why are they so heavily invested in forcing vaccination, it is a personal choice, and all available information supports this view”

    Because, without the economy coming back fully without regular lockdown interventions which drives everyone spare, and therefore being able to shout at you 24/7 “WE gave you back your life, WE saved your miserable worthless lives&jobs&mortgages etc”, you may not vote for them. That is a fate worse than any death for these parasites.


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  36. Bruce O’Newk:
    “These days it’s for not wearing a mask in Coles, or failing to QR.”
    Well, thank God I shop in IGA.
    Wandered in and no mask, no QR code.
    Had I not used a card for the purchase they’d never know I was there.
    The Tarted Pimpler strikes again!

    Has anyone else noticed now that the low hanging ‘vaxine’ fruit has been picked, it’s only the disobedient left, and they are getting the shits with the rhetoric from our Lords and Masters?


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  37. JMH says:

    Makka: “JMH,
    They were thrown out around March last year. Along with our Constitution and Federation. In Australia at least, it was all a mirage, as we can now see.”

    The worst of it is we cannot vote the cretins out. Vote coalition = more extreme punishment. Vote ALP = more extreme punishment. The Great Reset. In other words – we, the people, are completely fucked one way or another.


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  38. shatterzzz says:

    Gravitar says I exist with them but that I need to activate my account via the email that they keep saying they’ve sent me, but haven’t.
    Is there no other way of getting an avatar up here?
    I had the same problem .. no idea I had an account from months/years ago .. used the user name they said was already in use .. added an extra letter which then went to the original account email for confirmation & back in ……


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  39. egg_ says:

    Salty stream @46min comparing the unreality bubble of Kim Jong-Il to Dementia Joe.


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  40. Cassie of Sydney says:

    Klaus Schwab is in control of the world.


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  41. Tom says:

    Testing for comment processing time @4.40pm, 2-8-2021.


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  42. struth says:

    National cabinet is also considering whether vaccinated people can have greater freedoms during any future lockdowns to avoid stay at home orders…………..

    They are only considering how soon they can do it, and that depends on how many are vaccinated.
    They are signing either their own death warrants or the death warrant of the nation.
    It’s unfortunate but that’s how it’s going to play out.

    I wonder how long Macron has got. He’s already been slapped by a member of the crowd.
    Do these people truly think they’ll get away with this on a global scale?
    They went too hard because Trump made them do it….this was supposed to be done via Climate Change and by 2030.
    That’s my take on it.
    Jane Halton and a few others, including journalists will end up in Nuremberg II.
    I don’t think it’s a done deal at all Makka.
    You speak as if already defeated.
    They played their hand too soon.
    Hence the vile rhetoric now coming from government and the lunacy of the statements, which every day wake more Aussies up to the truth.

    I think they’ll do this.
    Remembering the left wing “bubble”.
    It catches them out every time.

    I heard a moron on the radio say..”what is the problem with these people” referring to those not wanting to be part of an experiment turning out to be deadly to thousands and thousands.
    But you see, he isn’t asking any of them.
    I believe this sort of bullshit will get much worse as they get more and more concerned people are not coming forward.
    If it was a true supply issue you would not hear Boo about anti vaxxers.
    They have the supply, not the victims.
    They’ve got all they are going to get in this town judging by the always empty vaccination centre in the town hall.
    And people would be fighting each other to get the jab.
    The government and the MSM will get worse and cross a line.
    A big line.
    They are already doing so.
    The majority are not jabbed and not coming forward in great numbers.
    But folks, they filled the cities with third world immigrants but they didn’t fill the regions. The ones not getting jabbed won’t surrender as easy.
    The stores that introduce passports will miss out on the business.
    So if they aren’t forced by government to do it, they won’t in the long run.
    This was a knee jerk reaction to Trump winning, and even if Australians are gullible twats, they won’t get the whole world, that’s laughable.
    There are still real men in many cultures.
    How long do you think Macron has got on this earth?
    These few, these very few meglomaniacs all, will come undone, big time.
    We are living through great world history.


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  43. Gab says:

    Thank you, all, for letting me know.

    Adam is just a marvellous man!


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  44. Makka says:

    “we, the people, are completely fucked one way or another.”

    Yes. The vax passport will also contain a lot of personal information about you and your personal profile linked with your social media activities, ending up somewhere with a “score” of your compliance to the acceptable social “norms”. You score outside the approved score band and your vax certificate may be up for review or restricted, along with things like PayPal accounts, Twitter and Fb posting content restrictions and such. Pretty much 100% electronic surveillance and mobility controls. The tech all exists, it’s just a matter of getting the regulatory world aligned without spooking the horses. The frogs are on the streets over this.


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  45. Runnybum says:

    JMH, don’t vote for the liars or the SFL, vote minor parties & vote the uniparty out…if we are still allowed to vote that is.


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  46. srr says:

    It’s NOT a ‘vaccination Passport’ they’re working to mandate across the globe, it’s a Movement & Contact TRACKER.


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  47. Speedbox says:

    I’m not a computer expert but those who have knowledge in this area may be able to comment:

    The current QR code. How difficult (or not) to ‘re-program’ the code so when you check in, it displays a ‘tick’ or ‘cross’ on a remote terminal to indicate your vaccination status?

    I’m thinking of the methodology to mass screen thousands at a large venue. It isn’t practical for every person to be asked/checked on their vaccination status – there has to be a method to check hundreds per minute.


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  48. srr says:

    Ta shaterzzz, I shall attempt that way back in.


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  49. Kev Gillett says:

    Test. Thank you Adam. For a moment there I thought I was going to have to totally reorganize my life. No Cat…ouch


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  50. JC says:

    srr says:
    August 2, 2021 at 4:44 pm

    It’s NOT a ‘vaccination Passport’ they’re working to mandate across the globe, it’s a Movement & Contact TRACKER.

    For what purpose? Come up with a reasonable easy to understand purpose that the Western governments want to keep an eye on sayspring break backpackers from the US making their way through Europe. Go!


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  51. Makka says:

    Bottom line is, we won’t know exactly what will be the true , hidden and complete functional abilities of the vax passport app, but we can be certain it will be designed to implement maximum legal and regulatory control over our lives. That’s why Scummo is now talking about the legal and reg “framework” being put in place for restricting un-vaxxed mobility and access. The proletariat will be salivating for it.


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  52. DrBeauGan says:

    “The worst of it is we cannot vote the cretins out. Vote coalition = more extreme punishment. Vote ALP = more extreme punishment. The Great Reset. In other words – we, the people, are completely fucked one way or another.”

    There’s a traditional solution to this problem. It involves lampposts.


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  53. Whalehunt Fun says:

    Gravatar test. Do not use. Feel free to ab use.


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  54. Whalehunt Fun says:

    Lamposts. The second last resting place of Il Duce. I gather the local creek was the final place.


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  55. incoherent rambler says:

    Invade Poland, Russia and bomb Britain.
    For what purpose? Go!

    JC assumes that there must be an intelligent decision making process in govt.


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  56. Exit Stage Right says:

    The elites have not learned any lessons from WW11
    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/08/nullifying_nuremberg.html

    Hanging is too good for these medical “experts”.


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  57. incoherent rambler says:

    A tracker would be handy for billing carbon tax miles.


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  58. egg_ says:

    It’s NOT a ‘vaccination Passport’ they’re working to mandate across the globe, it’s a Movement & Contact TRACKER.

    For what purpose?

    Forgot about your metadata and 911?
    Police Warrants not requiring a magistrate?

    All legislated.


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  59. Steve trickler says:

    I remember just walking out the front door of my babysitters ( pissed teenagers) in East Carnarvon. It was a long walk back home. Half way through the journey I got picked up and put on the shoulders of a bloke who had just been released from jail. He got me within a kilometer of home before I spotted the old man’s corolla driving down the road. A search party was in play.

    I was 5 years old. Songs bring back memories.

    on and Vangelis – I’ll Find My Way Home (with lyrics)


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  60. Vicki says:

    “Their argument Vicki is that the vax , while not preventing acquiring it or spreading it, WILL prevent serious sickness , hospitalization and death. I’d like to see real uncontaminated data for this so as to make up my own mind.”

    It is a difficult one, because they are so committed to vaccination, in mind and practice, that I remain unconvinced that they will not “massage” the numbers.

    OS reports do “suggest” that vaccination may prevent more serious development of the infection, although even its advocates do not deny that there are many “vaccine breakthroughs”.

    But that is not the point for those of us who are resisting vaccination with the gene technology vaccines. But our difficulty is that the polls and their minions largely flatly refuse to even discuss the extent of adverse reactions, let alone ADEs.

    I am watching this virtual fading of all the basic freedoms that we take for granted with absolute disbelief. I concede that all you guys who forecast the development of a full on stasi police state are probably right.

    I still can’t believe it is happening.

    BTW at least The Australian ran a story (on the weekend) on some feisty anaesthetists who are defying and ridiculing their servile comrades in the medical profession.


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  61. Makka says:

    “For what purpose?”

    Look to what the Soviets accomplished for over 70 years. A population totally controlled by the elite, by “the party”. A completely centrally controlled population. Yes it eventually failed but 70 years is a long innings.

    But this will not be like that communism. There’s too much money to be made. I think the overall agenda is to ensure that through subtle (but effective) control of populations, never again will someone like Trump come along with his supporters to fk up the best laid plans of the last several decades. And if anyone has the temerity to buck that imposed system, punishments will quickly accrue. Not the physical Soviet gulag kind, but isolation and restrictions nonetheless implemented through the cloud and web technologies. Very effective they will be too.


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  62. Runnybum says:

    Excuse JC, the jab has fucked his brain.


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  63. struth says:

    I was always a realist from the start.
    I knew this was coming, as did only a few here.
    People didn’t want to believe the terrible reality that our real threat and terror does not come from a virus but from our own governments.
    Now you are seeing it and some of you are getting depressed.
    I totally understand that.
    But stop talking tlike the defeated already.
    It’s not over by a long shot.
    Billions of people with more backbone than most Australians are our allies.
    They tried to do this to the whole world.
    The whole world.
    Always their desire, but it was meant to be done by 2030.
    Think.
    How often did you hear “by 2030”
    Trump forced their hand and if you look at what is now happening they played their hand too early and not only that, in attempting to bring in a Chinese style social credit system they assumed we were like the Chinese.
    The Chinese have NEVER KNOWN FREEDOM.
    We have.
    If we fight we will win.
    It’s just how we fight.
    And we fight by refusing to get jabbed, ignoring their bullshit decrees and threatening them with a world court Nuremberg style.
    By standing up and calling them out.
    Do you think one country won’t do it out of all of them. And once one country does……
    They have massively jumped the shark.

    Their threats will become much worse and more vile, but standing firm against them will win.
    We might not do it as pathetic Australians, but it will be by the Poles, the Italians, and many countries who have known tyranny in the past.
    Countries with a better understanding of history.
    It’s just a case of being the shit that rides on the coat tails of others or if we want to lead the way.
    Ho, fucking ho..
    Aussies, let a French man save you.
    An American, a Pole, an Italian, a Pom while you quiver in fear.
    Look if it was just happening to Australians, I’d agree, we’d be F…ked.
    But they are trying it on where it’s never going to work.
    I reckon, finally, maybe within the next few months, we may see the light at the end of the tunnel.
    A few of these arseholes are going to be knocked off around the world, and then what?
    Basically the whole world isn’t surrendering and the USA has a decentralised governance system. There is much to be hopeful for.
    I’m not a hundred percent sure, but you cannot suggest there is no hope when you look at the big picture.
    Look at the millions protesting.
    It’s not over by a long shot.
    Act defeated, be defeated.


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  64. JC says:

    incoherent rambler says:
    August 2, 2021 at 4:56 pm

    Invade Poland, Russia and bomb Britain.
    For what purpose? Go!

    JC assumes that there must be an intelligent decision making process in govt. Rambler, are you drunk? You cannot ascribe a purpose to Poland, Russia and Britain? You honestly, no kidding, need my help? That’s moronic.

    I want to understand the purpose of the US government, French , Italian, British or any Western government for that matter giving purpose to the theory USSR described to track down their packpackers etc.. If you can’t then STFU and stop posting stupid shit.


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  65. Rosie says:

    Unless you’ve disabled the function
    (can you?) google tracks you everywhere you take your phone.

    I don’t know that a ‘vaccine passport’ is going to make any difference.


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  66. Vicki says:

    Oh, and by the way, “friends” will come and light the torch when they figuratively burn you at the stake for vaccine scepticism.

    Yesterday I was staggered at the hostility of a Sydney “friend” who abused me for being a stupid “anti-vaxer”.

    Of course I hit him in response with a torrid of facts & figures without drawing breath! Silence…. and then he hung up after he spat out that he was going outside for ” fresh air”.

    The end of a 30 year friendship.


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  67. JC says:

    But this will not be like that communism. There’s too much money to be made.

    Explain how one makes money tracking 19 year old kid backpacking through France in the spring.

    You believe the government could make a turn selling the kid’s whereaboutst to the hostels? 🙂


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  68. jo says:

    DrBeauGan says:
    August 2, 2021 at 4:51 pm
    “The worst of it is we cannot vote the cretins out. Vote coalition = more extreme punishment. Vote ALP = more extreme punishment. The Great Reset. In other words – we, the people, are completely fucked one way or another.”

    There’s a traditional solution to this problem. It involves lampposts.

    ……Can I still claim position as Lord High Executioner. as I was on the old Cat. I’ve put my prices up coz more patriots want to see these bastards swing. I’m just doing it for fun.


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  69. cohenite says:

    Steve Hilton of the Next Revolution on Fox describes how the left are using the chunk virus to cement their hold on power. No surprises there but he does it so well; a 9 minute clip of wit and passion:

    https://www.facebook.com/NextRevFNC/videos/1513299699005667


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  70. Whalehunt Fun says:

    The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of helicopters.
    One of the better lines falsely attributed to Pinochet.


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  71. calli says:

    Whoa! Everyone’s here!

    Cohenite, are you Lillian Gish? 😀

    Moree hot baths have gone into receivership. Friday. So we’ll have to go out into the sticks to bob up and down in the Great Artesian Basin. Meanwhile, Moree is a terrific country town with some beautiful buildings. Suffering from Covid regs plus obvious social problems.

    Again, the most prosperous businesses appear to be government and qangos.


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  72. Dot says:

    Gun rights are human rights.

    Human rights are gun rights.


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  73. Farmer Gez says:

    Eddystone’s post about a patient with suspected clotting brings you back to the original statements by the medical “experts” who said the clotting from AZ is different from the usual and therefore detectable and treatable.

    “Don’t worry folks, it’s only a form of clotting we rarely see in medicine.”
    Phew! That’s OK then.


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  74. JC says:

    Runnybum says:
    August 2, 2021 at 5:07 pm

    Excuse JC, the jab has fucked his brain.

    Banana picking season hasn’t started yet?


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  75. Dot says:

    JC

    I can answer your question.

    Because they can.


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  76. jo says:

    Which Kitteh will be Madame DeFarge. so much choice. Form a line ladies. No I identify as ones allowed.


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  77. Vicki says:

    A GREAT article from American Thinker:

    August 1, 2021
    Nullifying Nuremberg
    By Pennel Bird

    Dr. Josef Mengele is one of the true monsters of history. His profoundly evil medical experiments on Jews, the disabled, the mentally impaired, and other Third Reich deplorables are the stuff of pitch-black fever dreams. Combining disparate elements of pernicious ideologies including eugenics, antisemitism, racial purity, and the German ideal of lebensraum (“room for living”), what eventually became Nazism informed Hitler’s ethos as he rose to power. His malignant weltanschauung eventually coalesced into the Final Solution.

    Hitler’s infernal vision metastasized quickly to infect the belief systems of top-tier Nazis. Among other atrocities, Mengele used injections to attempt to change the eye color of his “patients” to blue to render them more Aryan. When these experiments went sideways, the fiendish M.D. demonstrated a penchant for “tidying up.” One person testified to having witnessed the diabolical doctor kill fourteen sets of twins in one night with chloroform injections to the heart in order to make comparative post-mortem observations.

    After the Allies won the war, the Nuremberg Trials were convened to assess the astonishing breadth of the human tragedy as authored by Hitler and his henchmen and mete out punishment for their actions. The cruelty and depravity of Mengele and others, including Adolf Eichmann, shocked the world, were almost beyond reckoning, and subsequently inspired the establishment of the Nuremberg Code — which was tacitly endorsed by nearly every nation on earth.

    The ten points of the Nuremberg Code for human experimentation are as follows:

    The voluntary consent of the human subject is essential. This means that the person involved should have the legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, over-reaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved, as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that, before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject, there should be made known to him the effects upon his health or person, which may come from his participation in the experiment.
    The experiment should be such as to yield fruitful results for the good of society, unprocurable by other methods or means of study, and not random and unnecessary in nature.
    The experiment should be so designed and based on the results of animal experimentation.
    The experiment should be so conducted as to avoid all unnecessary physical and mental suffering and injury.
    No experiment should be conducted where there is an a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur.
    The degree of risk to be taken should never exceed that determined by the humanitarian importance of the problem to be solved by the experiment.
    Proper preparations should be made, and adequate facilities provided to protect the experimental subject against even remote possibilities of injury, disability, or death.
    The experiment should be conducted only by scientifically qualified persons. The highest degree of skill and care should be required through all stages of the experiment of those who conduct or engage in the experiment.
    During the course of the experiment, the human subject should be at liberty to bring the experiment to an end if he has reached the physical or mental state where continuation of the experiment seems to him to be impossible.
    During the course of the experiment, the scientist in charge must be prepared to terminate the experiment at any stage, if he has probable cause to believe, in the exercise of the good faith, superior skill, and careful judgment required of him that a continuation of the experiment is likely to result in injury, disability, or death to the experimental subject.
    All COVID vaccines emergency authorized by the FDA have not yet been approved and are experimental, as they have undergone no long-term safety trials. Safety data are being partially collected in real time as adverse events are reported to VAERS. The tenets of the Nuremberg Code apply here as these vaccines are — by definition — a medical experiment being administered worldwide.

    Given that, the explicit statement in #1 that subjects not be subject to coercion raises the question: does the threat of losing one’s job, not being able to attend college, or not being able to travel or attend a live event constitute coercion? Does the president of the United States urging Americans to “get the shot” and then threatening to send emissaries door to door to “encourage” it constitute coercion? Is it coercion to establish two Americas in which one half that chooses vaccination gets to eschew masks and move about freely, while the other half that doesn’t must stay masked and have their essential freedoms proscribed?

    Later in #1, the text explicitly states that the subject must be made aware of “the effects upon his health or person.” This is known as informed consent: patients need to be made fully aware of the potential dangers of a medical procedure in keeping with the Hippocratic oath. There have been many reports of adverse events from the COVID vaccines, including Bell’s palsy, seizures, blood clotting, heart inflammation, and death. How many people reading this who got the vaccine had these potential side effects explained to them before getting jabbed? How many were afforded informed consent?

    The second bullet point dictates the experiment (COVID vaccine) “should be so designed and based on the results of animal experimentation.” In an alarming break with decades of convention, the Pfizer and Moderna animal trials were run concurrently with human trials. The human trials were not a result of animal trials, giving the manufacturers a chance to make safety adjustments, which constitutes a violation of the Nuremberg Code.

    The fifth bullet point states that no experiment (the experimental vaccine in this case) should be given if there’s reason to believe it could cause a disabling injury or death. With over 400,000 adverse events and 9,000 unconfirmed deaths from COVID vaccines reported to VAERS, is there reason to believe the COVID vaccines violate the Nuremberg Code in yet another way?

    The eighth bullet point emphasizes the “highest degree of skill and care” by “scientifically qualified persons” when administering the vaccine. Do pharmacists fit that profile? Do school nurses? How about the folks jabbing people motoring through drive-thru clinics? Does the fact that they all enjoy total liability protection from vaccine injury and death give pause?

    The last bullet point emphasizes that the administering agent should exercise caution in fulfillment of the Hippocratic oath by terminating treatment if there is reason to believe that further treatment could cause “injury, disability or death.” There are countless stories of people having an adverse reaction to the first of two shots — but being encouraged to continue with the second shot anyway. Many of these unfortunates suffered debilitating, lifelong injuries — or death — after the second vaccine. Meanwhile, instances of doctors or health care workers erring on the side of caution and advising against the second shot for these vulnerable patients are vanishingly rare.

    It is increasingly clear that the powerful principles and precepts of the Nuremberg Code have been flouted, even decimated, by those seeking to push the COVID vaccines on every single person on Earth. Foremost among these is the caution against coercion. Those who resist the anti-American and anti-human idea of a one-size-fits-all medical treatment are freedom-fighters for the obvious and inherent right to choose for themselves. That this is no longer self-evident is deeply alarming.

    It is a well-worn aphorism that those who forget their past are condemned to repeat it. Despite mounting evidence of serious adverse events and death, are we doing just that in our increasingly desperate attempts to use coercion to vaccinate absolutely everyone?

    Are we nullifying the Nuremberg Code?


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  78. mh says:

    Davos shill

    ‘Greg Hunt has revealed more changes to which kids get the Pfizer vaccine first’

    Klaus does not want a vaccine control group.
    That’s why they want everyone vaccinated.


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  79. Vicki says:

    August 1, 2021
    Nullifying Nuremberg
    By Pennel Bird

    Dr. Josef Mengele is one of the true monsters of history. His profoundly evil medical experiments on Jews, the disabled, the mentally impaired, and other Third Reich deplorables are the stuff of pitch-black fever dreams. Combining disparate elements of pernicious ideologies including eugenics, antisemitism, racial purity, and the German ideal of lebensraum (“room for living”), what eventually became Nazism informed Hitler’s ethos as he rose to power. His malignant weltanschauung eventually coalesced into the Final Solution.

    Hitler’s infernal vision metastasized quickly to infect the belief systems of top-tier Nazis. Among other atrocities, Mengele used injections to attempt to change the eye color of his “patients” to blue to render them more Aryan. When these experiments went sideways, the fiendish M.D. demonstrated a penchant for “tidying up.” One person testified to having witnessed the diabolical doctor kill fourteen sets of twins in one night with chloroform injections to the heart in order to make comparative post-mortem observations.

    After the Allies won the war, the Nuremberg Trials were convened to assess the astonishing breadth of the human tragedy as authored by Hitler and his henchmen and mete out punishment for their actions. The cruelty and depravity of Mengele and others, including Adolf Eichmann, shocked the world, were almost beyond reckoning, and subsequently inspired the establishment of the Nuremberg Code — which was tacitly endorsed by nearly every nation on earth.

    The ten points of the Nuremberg Code for human experimentation are as follows:

    The voluntary consent of the human subject is essential. This means that the person involved should have the legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, over-reaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved, as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that, before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject, there should be made known to him the effects upon his health or person, which may come from his participation in the experiment.
    The experiment should be such as to yield fruitful results for the good of society, unprocurable by other methods or means of study, and not random and unnecessary in nature.
    The experiment should be so designed and based on the results of animal experimentation.
    The experiment should be so conducted as to avoid all unnecessary physical and mental suffering and injury.
    No experiment should be conducted where there is an a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur.
    The degree of risk to be taken should never exceed that determined by the humanitarian importance of the problem to be solved by the experiment.
    Proper preparations should be made, and adequate facilities provided to protect the experimental subject against even remote possibilities of injury, disability, or death.
    The experiment should be conducted only by scientifically qualified persons. The highest degree of skill and care should be required through all stages of the experiment of those who conduct or engage in the experiment.
    During the course of the experiment, the human subject should be at liberty to bring the experiment to an end if he has reached the physical or mental state where continuation of the experiment seems to him to be impossible.
    During the course of the experiment, the scientist in charge must be prepared to terminate the experiment at any stage, if he has probable cause to believe, in the exercise of the good faith, superior skill, and careful judgment required of him that a continuation of the experiment is likely to result in injury, disability, or death to the experimental subject.
    All COVID vaccines emergency authorized by the FDA have not yet been approved and are experimental, as they have undergone no long-term safety trials. Safety data are being partially collected in real time as adverse events are reported to VAERS. The tenets of the Nuremberg Code apply here as these vaccines are — by definition — a medical experiment being administered worldwide.

    Given that, the explicit statement in #1 that subjects not be subject to coercion raises the question: does the threat of losing one’s job, not being able to attend college, or not being able to travel or attend a live event constitute coercion? Does the president of the United States urging Americans to “get the shot” and then threatening to send emissaries door to door to “encourage” it constitute coercion? Is it coercion to establish two Americas in which one half that chooses vaccination gets to eschew masks and move about freely, while the other half that doesn’t must stay masked and have their essential freedoms proscribed?

    Later in #1, the text explicitly states that the subject must be made aware of “the effects upon his health or person.” This is known as informed consent: patients need to be made fully aware of the potential dangers of a medical procedure in keeping with the Hippocratic oath. There have been many reports of adverse events from the COVID vaccines, including Bell’s palsy, seizures, blood clotting, heart inflammation, and death. How many people reading this who got the vaccine had these potential side effects explained to them before getting jabbed? How many were afforded informed consent?

    The second bullet point dictates the experiment (COVID vaccine) “should be so designed and based on the results of animal experimentation.” In an alarming break with decades of convention, the Pfizer and Moderna animal trials were run concurrently with human trials. The human trials were not a result of animal trials, giving the manufacturers a chance to make safety adjustments, which constitutes a violation of the Nuremberg Code.

    The fifth bullet point states that no experiment (the experimental vaccine in this case) should be given if there’s reason to believe it could cause a disabling injury or death. With over 400,000 adverse events and 9,000 unconfirmed deaths from COVID vaccines reported to VAERS, is there reason to believe the COVID vaccines violate the Nuremberg Code in yet another way?

    The eighth bullet point emphasizes the “highest degree of skill and care” by “scientifically qualified persons” when administering the vaccine. Do pharmacists fit that profile? Do school nurses? How about the folks jabbing people motoring through drive-thru clinics? Does the fact that they all enjoy total liability protection from vaccine injury and death give pause?

    The last bullet point emphasizes that the administering agent should exercise caution in fulfillment of the Hippocratic oath by terminating treatment if there is reason to believe that further treatment could cause “injury, disability or death.” There are countless stories of people having an adverse reaction to the first of two shots — but being encouraged to continue with the second shot anyway. Many of these unfortunates suffered debilitating, lifelong injuries — or death — after the second vaccine. Meanwhile, instances of doctors or health care workers erring on the side of caution and advising against the second shot for these vulnerable patients are vanishingly rare.

    It is increasingly clear that the powerful principles and precepts of the Nuremberg Code have been flouted, even decimated, by those seeking to push the COVID vaccines on every single person on Earth. Foremost among these is the caution against coercion. Those who resist the anti-American and anti-human idea of a one-size-fits-all medical treatment are freedom-fighters for the obvious and inherent right to choose for themselves. That this is no longer self-evident is deeply alarming.

    It is a well-worn aphorism that those who forget their past are condemned to repeat it. Despite mounting evidence of serious adverse events and death, are we doing just that in our increasingly desperate attempts to use coercion to vaccinate absolutely everyone?

    Are we nullifying the Nuremberg Code?


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  80. Harlequin Decline says:

    From The Australian today. Article by George Williams Professor of Law at the University of NSW-

    Governments have been authorised to do “whatever it takes” to protect the community from a pandemic. Parliaments did this deliberately. They recognised public health emergencies demand decisive and authoritarian leadership; measures implemented that would otherwise be unthinkable in a free democracy.

    These temporary powers are some of the most remarkable on the statute book. They override fundamental principles of consent and bodily integrity. This includes the normal assumption of our legal system that every competent person is entitled to refuse medical treatment.

    At federal level, the Biosecurity Act enables the government to impose medical treatment on any person to protect the broader community. The law is explicit in saying this extends to requiring a person to receive “a specified vaccination”. Refusing to do so can attract five years in jail.

    State powers are just as extensive. In NSW, the Public Health Act contains a catch-all provision that takes effect when the government “considers on reasonable grounds that a situation has arisen that is, or is likely to be, a risk to public health”. A minister can “take such action” and “may by order give such directions” they consider necessary. NSW uses this power almost daily to impose an array of health orders that underpin the latest lockdown.

    There are few checks and balances on powers of this kind. Indeed, parliaments have often gone out of their way to exclude the normal forms of scrutiny, such as parliamentary disallowance and review by the courts or administrative bodies. This can leave one last argument that the measures breach the Constitution. It is the only source of law with the authority to override these parliamentary enactments.


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  81. Terry Pedersen says:

    Yesterday I was staggered at the hostility of a Sydney “friend” who abused me for being a stupid “anti-vaxer”.

    Of course I hit him in response with a torrid of facts & figures without drawing breath!

    “torrid”, lol. Even a torrent would still be stupid. Your ex-friend was right. There are no valid arguments for being anti-vaccination.


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  82. Makka says:

    “You believe the government could make a turn selling the kid’s whereaboutst to the hostels?”

    What part don’t you understand?You saw in Vic last year that the proletariat loved being controlled. The un-vaxxed are about the un-personed and the proles will vote for that and reward Govts for implementing that. Overwhelmingly. There’s your motive.

    You think that all the Govt discussion (signalling) in UK, Europe, US and here about vaccination passports is all hot air? It’s all harmless chatter and will amount to nothing but a few harmless imposts. I’ve stated why I think and how I think it will happen. Happy to be wrong. But you sound like rosie with your happy clappy view that it’s all just a passing bad dream , despite it unfolding before your firmly and determinedly closed eyes.


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  83. Speedbox says:

    JC says:
    August 2, 2021 at 4:48 pm

    From a government perspective, there is no such thing as having too much information on the population. Everybody can be categorised by ethnicity, sex, gender (if applicable), salaried or self employed, taxation records, assets, political affiliations, social media profile, licences (inc firearms), social security data, health, religious affiliations, outstanding debts, criminal convictions (or acquittals), passport usage and a host of other data sets.

    The reasons to accumulate this data are obvious.

    I don’t think a massive global database is proposed, but our modern world allows and probably encourages data capture by government. People post their photos on FB and other social media that have geo data attached to the photo. Putting aside photos, most people have the location feature on their mobile phone turned on so they can be tracked by the authorities to with a metre, in real time.

    Nothing to hide so nothing to fear? Sure. For now. Do you trust the government not to misuse the data? Do you trust that it is secure?


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  84. Ragu says:

    People in private enterprise are going to say ‘look I’ve got rights here too’,” Mr Joyce told Sky News.

    “’If you want to come into my barber shop, or my childcare facility …then I have a right to say, maybe, have you been inoculated’?

    Firstly, Cardimona, please kick the shit out of your son in law.

    Secondly, the gov already punishes the unvaccinated by withdrawing any financial support for childcare So the Rona vaxx will be added to that list. Good luck affording childcare

    So it seems this drongo Scotty is going to make it legal for complete strangers to know, and demand to know, your health record to get a short back and sides. That’s insane.


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  85. Runnybum says:

    Vicki, like shaterazz pointed out dobbers in France informed the germans on people not conforming in WW2, we have gladys shite & the twats thanking dobbers in NSW for reporting people in NSW.
    Another one for you, over 50000 dutch citizens joined the Waffen SS in WW2.
    A lot of shit in the human race.


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  86. cohenite says:

    “Cohenite, are you Lillian Gish?”

    That’s Bessie Love:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/8×10-Print-Bessie-Love-Beautiful-Early-Portrait-by-Witzel-MMM-/201666151736?roken=cUgayN

    Hey head prefect, how do you do that bolding business. I need to do it because obviously my words are very important.


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  87. JC says:

    Dot

    That’s not an answer. The technology is there, so of course they can if they can if they so chose. But why would they want to. Explain that.

    If they need to find someone in the west a broad brush guess where the fucker is at and then a search of the cell phone towers would establish proximity. That’s not what USSR is peddling though. USSR is peddling bullshit about some scrambled crap over crap. It’s nonsense.


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  88. Chris M says:

    “the vax , while not preventing acquiring it or spreading it, WILL prevent serious sickness, hospitalization and death.”
    .

    No to the last bit. Latest Pfizer study at six months post-vaccination: 15 died in vax group, 14 died in unvax control group. Seeing the same numbers in the UK data, slightly higher death rate for vaccinated (although UK would be mostly AZ).

    As it keeps failing against Delta they push it more frantically.
    – More risk of catching Covid
    – equal chance of spreading Covid
    – no reduction in death from Covid
    Apart from that works as intended (the unadvertised intent that is).

    The mild Delta variation is God’s mercy to us and makes a mockery of their toxic brew.

    Adam D – thanks for putting up this blog, terrific service! Couple of others appeared here with similar names so I may have to re-invent myself or switch genders.


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  89. Harlequin Decline says:

    In case you missed the detail in my post above the standout point is that-

    At federal level, the Biosecurity Act enables the government to impose medical treatment on any person to protect the broader community. The law is explicit in saying this extends to requiring a person to receive “a specified vaccination”. Refusing to do so can attract five years in jail.


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  90. struth says:

    JC asks what possible motive would make Hitler do what he did.

    Crazy, it just doesn’t make any sense.
    The little moustache man was illogical, so why, oh why would anyone do what he did.

    And Hitler wasn’t trying to save the Globe from complete destruction because you and two billion excess humans are alive today, JC.


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  91. JC says:

    Speedbox

    They already have the data on at least 80% of the population carrying around turned on cell phones.

    That isn’t what USSR was suggesting. Focus on what USSR actually said.

    srr says:
    August 2, 2021 at 4:44 pm

    It’s NOT a ‘vaccination Passport’ they’re working to mandate across the globe, it’s a Movement & Contact TRACKER.

    Ask USSR whatever happened to Pizzagate and if the DC pizza joint was into children for sex trafficking.

    I’d like to hear the end of that one.


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