Open Thread – October 2024

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  1. kaysee kaysee says:

    Two articles on Catholic websites.

    The authors (Viganò and Janet Smith) justification why Catholics should vote for Trump. That those who are not voting for him are misinformed through the media. That there are serious problems with some of Trump’s policies which a Catholic cannot agree with but ….. vote for Trump.

    1/
    Tucker Carlson shares Archbishop Viganò’s ‘remarkably insightful’ letter endorsing Trump

    Tucker Carlson has praised Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò’s “insightful” letter to American Catholics urging them to vote for Donald Trump.

    “A remarkably insightful description of what’s at stake in this election from Catholic Archbishop Carlo Viganò. Please read this,” Carlson wrote Thursday on X before sharing the complete text of His Excellency’s message.

    2/
    On the Brink

    A good case can be made for not voting or voting for a third-party candidate in “non-swing” states, but I believe it imperative for Catholics to vote for Trump in swing states. Indeed, somewhat indirectly, Cardinal Burke makes a strong case for this perspective.


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  2. kaysee kaysee says:

    2020
    Trump gives Netanyahu “Key to the White House”

    Oct 2024
    Trump signals support in call with Netanyahu:
    ‘Do what you have to do’

    Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump expressed support for Israel’s offensives against Hamas and Hezbollah in a recent call with the country’s prime minister

    Trump told Benjamin Netanyahu in one call this month, “Do what you have to do,”

    “He didn’t tell him what to do militarily, but he expressed that he was impressed by the pagers,” …“He expressed his awe for their military operations and what they have done.”


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  3. kaysee kaysee says:

    International doctors who have volunteered in Gaza hospitals have said that they have never seen any Hamas fighters running around any hospital.

    The Catholics endorsing and advocating for Trump, do they also endorse:
    – Trump’s support for Israel’s offensives?
    – His advice to Netanyahu: “Do what you have to do?

    Offensives like this?

    Kamal Adwan hospital-1

    Kamal Adwan hospital-2

    Elderly Palestinian lady


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  4. kaysee kaysee says:

    Do what you have to do?

    Christians in the Holy Land

    The genocide

    Lebanese journalists

    There are many, many, many more examples of the Israeli offensives that have been posted on this blog.

    Trump supports the Israeli offensives on:
    the innocent civilians, those ill in hospitals, the medical professionals who look after them, the journalists who report on the war, Palestinians whose land and homes are being stolen by the settlers…..

    And those who endorse Trump support his support for:
    the Israeli offensives and agree with his advice to Do what you have to do.


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  5. Esme says:

    Esme, your contribution to the blog is much appreciated.

    Thank you. That means a lot. 🙂 Sometimes the words just flow, and other times it can feel surprisingly difficult to convey the meaning you’d like to on these platforms. Especially with people you’ve never met, however much they might seem kindred spirits. You don’t have the shared ‘shorthand’, the mutual understanding and trust, of people who know each other well ‘in real life’. Words can be misinterpreted, meaning Lost in Translation (sorry, another gratuitous movie link – Bill Murray, karaoke, a shared experience of Japan as a foreigner – what’s not to like?)

    I’ve commented on other blogs before, but things I appreciate about this one: genuinely critical thinking and intellectual honesty that reflects these times (while some supposed “freedom” blogs – like the big-name, highfalutin conferences, alliances etc out there – still promote, or at least start from the false premise of, a genuine, democratic voting choice – how to communicate on such different wavelengths?); unapologetic expressions of Christianity and acknowledgement of the reality of Christian persecution around the world; no domineering zealots hurling insults and shouting down different opinions…

    But mostly I’m grateful for the opportunity of a sense of a simple (virtual) conversation which you don’t always get in throwing a comment on the pile for unpredictable ‘moderation’.

    As you’ve said, kaysee, in amongst all the other activities of daily life, it can be hard to find the time to comment here regularly – let alone on multiple blogs you’d like to support – but it’s good to do what we can, when we can.


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  6. Esme says:

    That there are serious problems with some of Trump’s policies which a Catholic cannot agree with but ….. vote for Trump.

    Says it all, doesn’t it. The clear compromise.

    Tucker Carlson has praised Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò’s “insightful” letter to American Catholics urging them to vote for Donald Trump.

    He would, wouldn’t he.


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  7. Esme says:

    Christians in the Holy Land

    He says:

    The Christians of the West silence is defeating

    Did he mean “deafening”? Either works, I guess.

    Thank you for highlighting this, kaysee.


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  8. mh says:

    Courier Mail


    EXCLUSIVE
    Qld election day’s exit poll shockwaves: Labor surges, election too close to call

    The Queensland election result will come down to the wire, as exclusive exit polling reveals the two major parties are neck-and-neck as voting closes.

    The Courier-Mail polled 2000 voters as they cast their ballots at a cross-section of electorates today, with the final tally revealing 33.9 per cent of voters had backed the LNP, while Labor was just 0.3 points behind with 33.6 per cent of the vote.

    The results show an incredible comeback for the Miles Government, who trailed 48-30 in The Courier-Mail’s first exit poll, conducted on October 14.


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  9. mh says:

    I voted:

    1 LNP
    2 ONP


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  10. Esme says:

    Israeli Ambassador interrogated by LBC callers | Key moments

    It may sound sexist but it’s especially hard to watch and listen to these deflections from a woman. I guess that’s why women are ‘useful’ in such positions.


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  11. Esme says:

    I voted:

    I voted with a (Christian) cross over the ballot paper.


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  12. kaysee kaysee says:

    Thomas Massie
    @RepThomasMassie

    If Israel insists on destroying civilian targets in Lebanon, let them buy and build their own weapons. American taxpayers should not be funding this.

    This could be added on the ballot paper for voters to check one of these options:

    ○ Agree

    ○ Disagree


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  13. kaysee kaysee says:

    There might be a topic that you or mh would be interested in, kaysee? Since I’ve already had a turn

    If you have a topic, post it. We can have multiple Muse Room threads open at the same time.

    No need to be politely waiting your turn to post something here. ˚◡˚

    There are so many points I want to post on – both in the Posts section as well as the Muse Room……but….. time. Right now, my brain is saturated with some of the major world events.


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  14. mh says:

    Max Blumenthal interviews Hamas spokesman on October 7

    The Grayzone
    399K subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8JSXYVhVYQ&t=459s


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  15. kaysee kaysee says:

    Sometimes the words just flow, and other times it can feel surprisingly difficult to convey the meaning you’d like to on these platforms. Especially with people you’ve never met, however much they might seem kindred spirits.

    Yes, sometimes we mean to say something but the words don’t get typed out the way we want. Then you read your own comment after it appears on the thread and think “Oh, no”. But, then, it is not as if there is some limit on words or number of comments. We can post another comment to clarify.

    In a setting, like this one, there are just a few of us on the site. Adam’s blog rule: the
    No D- -kheads Policy is really good. It means that we treat the commenters and the blog with respect. Anyone can disagree with or debate what is posted on the blog, but it has to be free from abuse, sniping or ridicule.

    There are enough problems in real life; there is no point coming to a blog if we have fights and unpleasantness. I see it as “the WEF-fing enemies outside our gates”, not in here.


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  16. mh says:

    OMG, no wonder I don’t watch a lot of Aussie tv.

    Robbie Katter MP is getting grilled by a female CH 7 election coverage anchor on abortion. She’s carrying on like a pork chop. What an old bat.


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  17. mh says:

    The standard of journalism in QLD:

    Courier Mail

    New Premier Crisafulli to lead majority LNP government as Miles concedes defeat

    Steven Miles has refused to concede defeat despite new Queensland Premier David Crisafulli on track to lead a majority LNP government. LIVE COVERAGE


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  18. mh says:

    Andrew Bolt will be happy.

    The Age

    Extremist influencer Candace Owens’ Australian visa cancelled

    Tony Burke said Candace Owens’ remarks about minority groups has the “capacity to incite discord in almost every direction”.


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  19. mh says:

    We don’t this sort of thing in Australia

    Candace Owens
    @RealCandaceO

    Can somebody explain to me why Elon Musk is not allowed to communicate with Vladimir Putin?

    11:48 PM · Oct 25, 2024 · 7.2M Views


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  20. mh says:

    Coalition easily wins majority government in QLD

    ABC headline

    Coalition projected to win underwhelming victory in Queensland election | ABC News


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  21. kaysee kaysee says:

    US Elections – Continuing from yesterday
    The Cult- Follow the leader

    1/
    Many people who work at polling booths do it as volunteers. It is long hours and they don’t get paid very much. There are clear rules for voters when they come to vote:
    No political signs or logos.

    Early voting has opened. I just came across this clip and I have a question for you:
    Which is worse:
    What the Magadonian said and did, OR the response of the GOP VP nominee?

    2/
    Maga Influencer-1
    Leading the McCult. Make America McDonald’s Again.

    3/
    Maga Influencer-2
    Preparing the cult for another J6.


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  22. kaysee kaysee says:

    It is about MIGA not MAGA.
    Three “Vote for Trump” ads appealing to Jewish voters.

    1/
    Trump Ad-1
    From the Republican Jewish Coalition Victory Fund

    One of the replies
    Whoever wrote this script is *not* Jewish.
    These ladies would not end their chat with “amen!”

    2/
    Trump Ad-2
    Origins unknown

    3/
    Trump Ad-3
    From the same coalition in Ad-1


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  23. kaysee kaysee says:

    Opinions on the election/voting from American citizens or world citizens.

    Citizen-1

    Citizen-2

    Citizen-3


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  24. Esme says:

    ‘Sad’ seems too small a word to cover the ‘conservatives’ for Trump/’right of centre’ politics/Israel, directing people to a three-hour Joe Rogan interview for an exercise of their “critical thinking”. Anyone with intact critical faculties doesn’t need to know any more about the Father of the Vaccines.


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  25. Esme says:

    If you have a topic, post it. We can have multiple Muse Room threads open at the same time.

    No need to be politely waiting your turn to post something here. ˚◡˚

    There are so many points I want to post on – both in the Posts section as well as the Muse Room……but….. time. Right now, my brain is saturated with some of the major world events.

    Thank you, kaysee 🙂 I understand and can relate. I feel inspired to focus on something positive and forward-looking. Have some thoughts and ideas. It is a challenge when we’re surrounded by the uniparty timewarp though!


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  26. kaysee kaysee says:

    …. directing people to a three-hour Joe Rogan interview for an exercise of their “critical thinking”

    I was just putting together the clips for my next comment related to that interview. It doesn’t fit into the Citizen series.

    (The Joe Rogan interview with Trump yesterday)

    Before the interview

    One reply predicted:
    LOL at you thinking Rogan will push the father of our Covid response

    After the interview

    JP says


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  27. Esme says:

    Extremist influencer Candace Owens’ Australian visa cancelled

    Tony Burke said Candace Owens’ remarks about minority groups has the “capacity to incite discord in almost every direction”.

    So the “free” Australian public square is vacuum sealed against such “extremist”, now ban-tainted utterances (what were they again?), and people pushing for the ban behind the scenes can pretend they had nothing to do with it. Ban speech – who, us?

    Shades of the Novak Djokovic Covid “vaccine” ejection – for our “safety”. This time, to avoid “discord”.


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  28. Esme says:

    Sorry for disrupting your flow, kaysee


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  29. mh says:

    Dan Bilzerian
    @DanBilzerian

    If you’ve got a pair of balls, repost this

    https://x.com/DanBilzerian/status/1850166967472201920


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  30. mh says:

    Courier Mail

    ‘Disrespectful’: 7News promo ruffles feathers

    7News Queensland’s latest promotional campaign celebrating the arrival of its new co-anchor has reportedly stirred up controversy among industry peers.

    ***

    The new co-anchor is an activist

    7NEWS Brisbane
    @7NewsBrisbane

    Robbie Katter joins the 7NEWS panel for a debate on women’s reproductive rights.

    https://x.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1850119382955131343


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  31. kaysee kaysee says:

    Sorry for disrupting your flow, kaysee

    What’s that?

    You didn’t disrupt anything.


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  32. kaysee kaysee says:

    If you’ve got a pair of balls, repost this

    In 18 hours it has 24K reposts and 45K likes.

    We have posted plenty on Zionism in our Open Threads, but I am trying to put info in the threads dedicated to this ongoing war so that it will be easy to find links and proof of the genocide, if we need to later on.

    More from Rick Wiles.
    2% control the rest
    .

    Michael Tracey
    The caliber of US political debate on Israel and the Middle East is a global laughingstock


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  33. Esme says:

    Robbie Katter joins the 7NEWS panel for a debate on women’s reproductive rights.

    He handled that pretty well. And he’s right that she doesn’t speak for all women. The idea of killing my unborn baby – another human being, created in God’s image, with as much right to live as I have – would’ve caused me more “angst” than any possible suffering or inconvenience of my own.

    And what about adoption? Very few babies available for adoption nowadays. They never even countenance that as an option. As though it’s unheard of, unthinkable, that a woman might selflessly carry a baby to term, and let him or live, to be looked after by someone else. It’s all or nothing.

    Some of the comments are surprisingly reassuring.


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  34. kaysee kaysee says:

    🎕 ┈┈┈┈ 🎕 ┈┈┈┈ 🎕
    And for this Sunday…

    I Love to Tell the Story

    .

    A Ponderable


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  35. mh says:

    He handled that pretty well. And he’s right that she doesn’t speak for all women.

    Notice she rolled her eyes at the end.

    She is a disgrace, a partisan hack, and CH7 News MUST move her on.


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  36. mh says:

    Trump called him a Palestinian.
    This is becoming cartoonish.
    Cartoonishly evil.

    Stew Peters
    @realstewpeters

    Here’s a United States Senator pledging his allegiance to Israel.

    This is TREASON.🐀☠️

    https://x.com/realstewpeters/status/1850248214995247279


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  37. mh says:

    Haaretz | Israel News

    Four Israeli Soldiers Killed in Southern Lebanon Combat, IDF Announces

    An initial IDF probe into the event says the force was caught by surprise by three Hezbollah militants hiding in a building. The militants threw grenades and shot toward the soldiers when a fire broke out, making the structure collapse


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  38. mh says:

    Candace Owens
    @RealCandaceO

    Today is the feast of Christ the King.
    It is reminder, as my priest said in mass, that Christ reigns supreme—over politics and media.

    I will never bend the knee to those whom reject Christ. I welcome any and all persecution that may come my way because of this.

    #ChristIsKing
    Oct 28, 2024 · 269.3K Views


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  39. Esme says:

    Christ reigns supreme—over politics and media

    It’s a good message at least, from a public figure whose utterances have been deemed unacceptable for free Australia


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  40. Esme says:

    Melania Trump on “abortion rights”:

    “Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does with her own body? A woman’s fundamental right of individual liberty, to her own life, grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes.

    “Restricting a woman’s right to choose whether to terminate an unwanted pregnancy is the same as denying her control over her own body. I have carried this belief with me throughout my entire adult life…

    “I have always believed it is critical for people to take care of themselves first,” Melania Trump writes. “It’s a very straightforward concept; in fact, we are all born with a set of fundamental rights, including the right to enjoy our lives. We are all entitled to maintain a gratifying and dignified existence…

    Saying “timing matters”, Melania Trump also defends the right to abortion later in pregnancy.

    Because timing matters, these statements come out now, not during the greatest, most widespread infringements of “individual liberty” in our lifetime, which her husband’s regime oversaw with Covid. When there was to be no talk of “my body, my choice”, nothing about people “taking care of themselves first”, even absent any real threat, as has since been acknowledged.

    And, as usual with these statements, there are many words about the adult woman, her agency, her rights, her life – of which she may happily have already enjoyed a significant proportion. But very few words allocated to the innocent unborn child, the life yet to be lived, the life denied. And always that cold, clinical “terminate”, for the snuffing out of a tiny, helpless human being.


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  41. Esme says:

    Notice she rolled her eyes at the end.

    And the male voice muttering “oh my God” at the reminder that there are “babies in this equation as well; they need representation”. The tragic irony that the God (casually, unintentionally) invoked would be on Katter’s side, on the ‘side’ of the innocent baby, not these smilingbreakfasttvtotalitarians. They actually make me feel physically ill, the ‘well-made-up monster’ characters they play. I know we should pray for them.

    Yes. The babies need representation. Those who haven’t yet been given the chance to take an independent breath.


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  42. Esme says:

    Citizen-2

    I’m not Right. I’m not Left.

    I like this.


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  43. Esme says:

    BRICS

    BRICS calls for ceasefire in Gaza, denounces Israel for ‘mass killings’


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  44. mh says:

    Melania Trump also defends the right to abortion later in pregnancy.

    Which means this:

    The procedure begins with the mother lying on the table, sedated and unaware. Instruments will be arranged, cold and sterile. Her womb, where her baby has been growing for months, will be prepared. The baby will be fully developed, with tiny limbs capable of movement and a heart that has been beating steadily since early in the pregnancy.

    A long pair of forceps will be inserted into the womb. The metal tool will grasp the baby’s small leg—perfectly formed and delicate—and twist. The leg will break away from the body with a harsh snap. Another leg will follow, torn from the baby with the same force. The forceps will then clamp down on one of the baby’s tiny arms, fragile yet complete, and pull it away from the body. The remaining arm will be grasped and yanked off as well, one small part of the baby at a time, dismembering the child piece by piece.

    Next, the baby’s torso will be targeted. The little ribcage, which has been protecting a beating heart, will be crushed under pressure. The bones will crack and collapse as the forceps squeeze down, and blood and amniotic fluid will spill from the mother’s womb as the crushed remains of the baby’s body are removed. Finally, only the baby’s head will remain. It will be too large to be removed whole, so the skull will have to be crushed. The forceps will clamp down, and the skull will cave in with a loud pop. Brain matter will spill out as the head, now a distorted mass of broken bones and tissue, is pulled from the womb.

    Once the procedure is complete, the baby’s body parts—small legs, tiny arms, the crushed torso, and shattered skull—will be laid out on a tray to ensure nothing is left inside the mother’s womb. What had been a living baby, with a beating heart and developing limbs, will be reduced to pieces on a cold metal tray. The silence in the room will be broken only by the sound of instruments being cleaned, the remains of the baby discarded and forgotten.


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  45. Esme says:

    Australia: Nudism OK, But No Candy

    Comments

    Australia has been playing this visa game for a while now. They’ve made Australia a global laughing stock.

    Australia strips its prisoners.

    [Novak Djokovic GIF]

    Leaders Who Have Banned Fee Speech


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  46. Esme says:

    Melania Trump also defends the right to abortion later in pregnancy.

    Which means this:

    Bloody hard read, isn’t it. And you don’t see it spelt out in all its chilling reality like that too often. Too hard for the ‘doctors’ and ‘patients’ to distance themselves from what it amounts to.

    Instead, just focus on the beautiful, stylish Melania, being used to promote and harvest votes for it.


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  47. mh says:

    The visa cancellation of Candy O is a direct result of lobbying by the Zionist lobby.

    The words of Tony Burke mean nothing. He was told to cancel it, and he did.

    Rabbi Shmuley told Candace on the Piers Morgan Uncensored show weeks ago that her Australian visa would be cancelled.

    These f#&$$rs rule us.


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  48. Esme says:

    The visa cancellation of Candy O is a direct result of lobbying by the Zionist lobby.

    I think many would have interpreted it that way. And then the showy display of distancing selves – “What? Ban speech? Who, us? Look over there at the scary terrorists!” – it being one thing to exert control over a supposedly free people’s speech, but another to be seen to be doing the controlling. That must remain a “conspiracy theory”.

    It’s absurd that some people are still using that term as a pejorative, really, since people with power and influence have always conspired to use it to further their own agendas, and they’ve revealed themselves as doing so to more people than ever before in recent years. There’s nothing theoretical about it.


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  49. mh says:

    The Jews restrict what we can read and listen to every day.

    But the book burnings of the 1930s…… Oy Vey!

    The National Socialist Book Burnings 1933 – The Truth

    Zoomer Historian

    768,603 views Apr 2, 2023
    The book burnings during Hitler’s reign are frequently mentioned, but never WHAT they banned or WHY, it’s time to delve deeper into the subject. They’re never discussed in detail, only a quick mention in history books as if it was a huge evil during the National Socialist reign. But was it so bad? Let’s find out the truth.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8AYHaz6ymM


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  50. Esme says:

    Joe de Bruyn ACU graduation speech

    In this crazy modern world, some graduates and staff of a supposedly Christian university walked out on this speech. Some of us outsiders would gladly have walked in to take their place.

    On abortion:

    I have for several decades been involved in opposing abortion, the deliberate killing of unborn human beings…

    Today, over 80,000 unborn children are killed by abortion in Australia each year. World-wide, the estimated number is 42 million per annum.

    Abortion is the single biggest killer of human beings in the world, greater by far than the toll of human life in World War II. It is a tragedy that must be ended…

    On IVF:

    I responded that it was morally wrong to deliberately bring children into the world in an environment where the child would have no father.

    On marriage:

    Marriage between a man and a woman was instituted by God at the origin of humanity in the Garden of Eden as the book of Genesis in the Bible tells us.

    Since then, every society on earth at all times has recognised marriage as being between a man and a woman.

    When he lived on earth 2,000 years ago, Jesus Christ elevated marriage to be one of the seven Sacraments of the Catholic Church he established.

    His speech traces examples of the two-party sham, the lie of ‘conservatism’, the fake enemy of ‘the other side’ in politics.

    His excellent concluding advice:

    As happened to me, you will be faced with issues in your professional and personal lives where the general opinion of the majority of the population is at odds with the teaching of the Church.

    My experience is that many Catholics cave in to peer pressure. They think their professional lives will be harmed if they promote the teaching of the Church. My experience is that this is not so.

    Despite my view on some issues being at odds with the views of my contemporaries over the past 50 years, it never affected my career at all.

    The key determinant is how you present your case.

    If you do it in a manner offensive to others, they will respond in a hostile manner.

    If, however, you use logic in a persuasive way, others may still disagree but they will respect you for your point of view.

    In the Gospel, Jesus said: ‘I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me.’ God has made us in his image and likeness and, as St Augustine said, our hearts are restless until they rest in him.

    So, if you put God’s truth in front of people in a respectful way, they will know in their hearts that you are right.

    “They will know in their hearts that you are right.”


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  51. Esme says:

    Candace Owens:

    Christ reigns supreme—over politics and media.

    Joe de Bruyn:

    Jesus said: ‘I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me.’ God has made us in his image and likeness and, as St Augustine said, our hearts are restless until they rest in him.

    The barred and the walked out on.

    But they tell us to worry about Islamism and antisemitism.


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  52. Esme says:

    I love this:

    God has made us in his image and likeness and, as St Augustine said, our hearts are restless until they rest in him.


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  53. kaysee kaysee says:

    Extremist influencer Candace Owens’ Australian visa cancelled

    Tony Burke said Candace Owens’ remarks about minority groups has the “capacity to incite discord in almost every direction”.

    Was it Tony Burke who really made the decision on the visa or was it made for him?

    An article in the paper today. Even though I disagree with some parts, the writer has a free speech right to his opinion of Candace. But he also makes a few important points on Free Speech and Censorship.

    Brendan O’Neill
    Candace Owens is a bigot, but banning her will only backfire

    I object to everything Owens says, but I object even more to the right of the state to protect people from what she says. If it’s a choice between being offended and being protected from offence by a bureaucracy that thinks it knows better than the rest of us, give me the former every time…..

    Censorship is a double calumny: it shushes those who have something to say and patronises everyone else. The entire engine of censorship is the patrician urge to protect the masses from their own worst instincts. It is the government’s dread of its own populace and their alleged latent hatreds that convinced it Owens must be kept “somewhere else”.


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  54. kaysee kaysee says:

    They lied about UNRWA employees. They haven’t provided the proof. But they continue.

    UNRWA banned

    Israel’s parliament just passed laws banning UNRWA operating in Palestinian Territories.

    Codifying the killing and starvation of millions of Palestinians. With the aim of erasing current and future generations.

    Genocide has just been legalised.

    More info here.


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  55. mh says:

    Age headline

    Australia joins global ‘outrage’ over Israel’s UN aid ban

    All talk, no action.


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  56. kaysee kaysee says:

    Candace Owens

    Today is the feast of Christ the King.
    It is reminder, as my priest said in mass, that Christ reigns supreme—over politics and media.

    I will never bend the knee to those whom reject Christ. I welcome any and all persecution that may come my way because of this.

    Back to Candace. There is no way I would spend my $$$$ or time to watch or listen to Candace. She is a grifter and has lost her credibility.

    She criticises Israel and Zionism, but she still backs Trump who is applauding Netanyahu’s genocide. Has she spoken out against his pro-Israel stand? Has she condemned his support for abortion and IVF? Anything about Melania’s it’s a woman’s right to choose to kill her baby?

    She is anti-vaxx but is supporting the Father of the Vaxx. She talks about Free Speech and Freedom but cheering for the candidate who will be imposing restrictions on free speech through anti-semitism laws, digital id and more.

    Last year, she was on the PBD show all out for Trump and his IT Factor. As a comparison to DeSantis who, of course, does not have the sizzle and the charm to win an election. So we rate leaders on the superficial “personality” at rallies not policies and record of doing things while in office.

    Most “Conservatives” and Christians too, will tell you that abortion is a hard issue to campaign on as it loses votes. Ask DeSantis if that is true. Last week:

    Doctors join DeSantis to oppose abortion Amendment 4:
    ‘Intentionally vague’ to ‘deceive’ voters


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  57. kaysee kaysee says:

    Trump had this sizzling rally in New York. Melania who has been missing from the campaign trail, except for occasional highly paid appearances, gets a grand welcome. For months, she has been promoting her book and telling us that posing nude is a celebration of the body, she supports lgbtqxyz, and believes abortion anytime is a woman’s right. Nothing that could be rated Conservative or Christian.

    Yet, some of the biggest applause is from those who will tell you that they are Traditional Catholics, holding fast and true to the faith and its teachings.

    NY Rally-1

    NY Rally-2

    NY Rally-3

    What a splendid show for the believers in Magadonia land.


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  58. kaysee kaysee says:

    Fr Martin Navarro

    We went from abhorring the sin of abortion to calling someone who promises to provide a legal window for infanticide – even eugenical genocide – as merely ‘imperfect’. And somehow it still doesn’t merit the label ‘RINO’.

    .
    The teaching of the faith
    .

    Sermon for the Feast of Christ the King
    Fr Martin Navarro explains the voting choices for American voters, this election.


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  59. mh says:

    Email from George Christensen

    Demand Free Speech: Let Candace Owens Speak in Australia

    Nation First defends the right of Australians to hear unfiltered voices without government censorship.

    Dear friend,

    You are being lied to.

    Right now, powerful voices in Australia are trying to silence one of the most outspoken conservative voices of our time, Candace Owens.

    But why? What are they so afraid of? And why should you be outraged?

    Candace Owens was set to speak in Australia this November.

    Her tour was to be a chance for Australians to hear unfiltered truths that the mainstream media would rather you ignore.

    But Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke – yes, a politician who supposedly represents you – has cancelled her visa.

    He’s decided you shouldn’t be trusted to hear what Owens has to say.

    Does that sit right with you?

    Or do you see this as the direct assault on free speech that it truly is?

    What’s the excuse? Burke claims Owens might “incite discord” – a weak, vague reason, if there ever was one.

    And then he plays the usual card: antisemitism.

    Now, let’s talk about that. The so-called “antisemitism” that Owens is accused of? It’s all smoke and mirrors, twisted and exaggerated, with no basis in reality.

    Now a few readers of Nation First have emailed asking why we’ve promoted Owens’ tour when, they say matter-of-factly, she’s “antisemite”.

    (By the way, the tour promoter tells me they are appealing the government’s decision, so hold on to your tickets if you already bought some!)

    Sadly, the fake news legacy media has done a very good job of inculcating certain beliefs.

    It’s also been backed up by the neoconservative media, which is barely more than controlled opposition (a term I actually hate because it’s bandied around too much, but in this respect, it’s accurate).

    They say Candace is antisemitic because she criticises U.S. taxpayer funding of Israel.

    That’s it.

    She’s against using American money for foreign wars – a stance she holds across the board, whether it’s Ukraine, Afghanistan, or Israel.

    She’s been clear:

    I do not believe American taxpayers should pay for Israel’s wars or the wars of any other country.

    That’s not antisemitism. That’s common sense!

    I question the Australian Government’s involvement in and funding of foreign wars — does that make me an antisemite?

    The fact is Candace is right to question it.

    Dr Elliot Resnick, a Jewish writer in the Israel National News, came to Owens’ defence.

    He knows what’s going on here.

    He’s said that:

    “Every statement she’s made regarding Israel can be explained without assuming antisemitism on her part.”

    Owens isn’t spreading hate – she’s questioning policy. Yet they twist her words, make her the villain, all to keep people like you from hearing the truth.

    And then there’s the absurd attack on her Christian faith.

    Candace Owens has used the phrase “Christ is King” – a declaration of faith, pure and simple.

    But her critics call it a “dog whistle” for antisemitism. Really?

    Since when did proclaiming your faith become a crime?

    In her own words, she said:

    I posted a standalone Bible verse, and I wrote at the end of it, ‘Christ is King’… It’s basic Christian doctrine.

    This isn’t an attack on anyone. It’s an affirmation of her beliefs.

    Are we really living in a world where expressing your faith is reason enough to be banned?

    Both the political and media class don’t want you to know the truth.

    They want to dictate what you hear, what you think, and what you’re allowed to believe.

    But we’re seeing through their game.

    They’ve turned Candace’s words on their head, all to control the conversation, to keep people like you from asking questions.

    Now let’s talk about this so-called “antisemitic” comment Candace made when she allegedly praised Hitler. (Despite what you may have heard, she didn’t, actually).

    Her critics love to quote her out of context. But here’s what she actually said.

    Owens was making a clear distinction between patriotism – putting one’s country first – and the twisted ideology of Hitler.

    Her words?

    If Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well — OK, fine. The problem is he had dreams outside of Germany.

    She’s right. He wanted global domination.

    He wasn’t a nationalist; he was a tyrant, a “homicidal, psychotic maniac,” as she put it.

    Owens condemned him outright.

    But do you see that full context in any of the mainstream reports?

    Of course not. They want you to buy the twisted version of her words.

    Just about every accusation of “Jew-hating” or “antisemitism” levelled at Owens can be dismissed by looking at the wider context of what she was saying.

    They want you to believe a lie.

    And now Australia has blocked her from coming to speak.

    Think about that.

    The country is barring someone from speaking simply because her views aren’t what the establishment wants you to hear.

    Where does this end? If the government can deny entry to someone like Candace Owens, who else will be silenced next?

    How long before you’re not allowed to question the government, not allowed to speak your mind?

    This isn’t just about Candace Owens.

    This is about the future of free speech in Australia.

    This is about your right to hear different perspectives, even ones that challenge the status quo.

    You should be asking why any government that’s supposed to serve the public is acting like a gatekeeper of acceptable opinions.

    If you believe in free speech, if you believe in the right to question authority, it’s time to take action.

    Email Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke. Demand he overturns his decision.

    Tell him you don’t want your government silencing voices simply because they’re inconvenient.

    Send your email to minister@homeaffairs.gov.au and tony.burke.mp@aph.gov.au

    Remind him that this is Australia, where we’re supposed to believe in the free exchange of ideas.

    Stand up for your right to hear the truth, not the version that’s been filtered and approved.

    Don’t let the Australian Government, or anyone else, decide what you’re allowed to hear.

    Demand your freedom back.

    Demand that Candace Owens be allowed to speak in Australia.

    Until next time, God bless you, your family and nation.

    Take care,

    George Christensen


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  60. Esme says:

    Even though I disagree with some parts, the writer has a free speech right to his opinion of Candace. But he also makes a few important points on Free Speech and Censorship.

    Brendan O’Neill

    Very fair, kaysee – far more even-handed than he.

    I object to everything Owens says

    Is this a deliberately incredible statement? It reminds me of Robbie Katter asking that hostile pregnant TV inquis-…presenter if she’d spoken to all women on abortion… or even Margaret Thatcher demanding names from George Negus.

    He objects to everything Candace Owens says? Or just some things she’s said that have upset some Jewish people? Some things she’s said may be objectionable to Christians too – such as the idea of a rabbi being “drunk on Christian blood”, or exhortations to use a Peter Thiel/Palantir prayer app to invite Big Brother into praying the rosary – but all? Some Jewish people themselves question the different treatment of various genocides.

    Not long ago at all Owens was a darling of what would seem to be a similar crowd to O’Neill’s, and she surely wouldn’t have been there if there were a general objection to her every utterance. Relentless grifting aside, one man’s “bash[ing] whatever minority they have decided is responsible for the rot of the Western world” may be another man’s ‘speaking truth to – or for – power’.

    Yes, O’Neill acknowledges that censorship is bad; worse than any speech deemed “offensive”. And, whatever’s to be made of Jordan Peterson these days (and it doesn’t look good), Peterson did make the good point that in order to think we risk offending someone – so we understand the problem.

    But O’Neill attributes this great wrong to the ‘great nameless and faceless’ – “the state”, the “bureaucracy”, an “engine of censorship”, a “patrician urge”, “the government” – instead of answering your simple, straightforward question, kaysee:

    Was it Tony Burke who really made the decision on the visa or was it made for him?

    And by whom? Why?

    It isn’t “Jew-bashing” to point out facts about Jewish power and influence, if facts they are. (Would it be “Catholic-bashing” to talk about Catholic power and influence in society?) I’ve seen at least one clip of a prominent Jewish person acknowledging that accusations of antisemitism and references to 1940s Germany are used as sword and shield.

    It isn’t really a matter of who says or said something, but whether or not it’s true. And attempts to besmirch the truth by association with the character of someone who speaks it are disingenuous at best.

    To illustrate the point, Churchill – like Jordan Peterson, what to make of him now? – and yet, this statement attributed to him still rings true:

    The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.

    I used to like Brendan O’Neill’s work, but when you wake up to the political theatre, and how these MSM/MAM journalists are part of it, spruiking for either the Reds or the Blues, it’s just not really possible any longer to take them seriously as advocates for ordinary people, or the truth. Not really.

    But if he, and others, could take a break from trying to frighten us out of wits about the supreme threat of Islam, or the “Jew-haters” on every street corner, perhaps they could explain why the forcible removal of a cross from Christian soldier’s tombstone is okay. That was news to some of us.


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  61. Esme says:

    Email from George Christensen

    Demand Free Speech: Let Candace Owens Speak in Australia

    That’s something, mh


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  62. kaysee kaysee says:

    Joe de Bruyn ACU graduation speech

    In this crazy modern world, some graduates and staff of a supposedly Christian university walked out on this speech. Some of us outsiders would gladly have walked in to take their place.

    The response of Prof Zlatko Skrbis, the vice-chancellor of ACU, to the speech

    Catholic uni vice-chancellor has surrendered faith of his own institution

    De Bruyn had given a moderately worded, well contextualised speech, faithful to Catholic doctrine, with good advice to young people. It was perfectly reasonable to disagree with any or all of de Bruyn’s speech, absurd almost beyond parody to regard it as beyond the pale for a speech at a Catholic university, or indeed anywhere else for that matter.

    In my view, the response of Skrbis was extraordinary, and profoundly damaging to his institution, to the Catholic Church and to the broader cause of religious freedom.

    Skrbis publicly expressed his regret that de Bruyn gave such a speech. He effectively apologised to students by offering anyone who was distressed a refund of their graduation fee. He made counselling available for staff and students upset by the speech. He acknowledged the “hurt and discomfort” many felt.


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  63. Esme says:

    There is no way I would spend my $$$$ or time to watch or listen to Candace. She is a grifter and has lost her credibility.

    She criticises Israel and Zionism, but she still backs Trump who is applauding Netanyahu’s genocide. Has she spoken out against his pro-Israel stand? Has she condemned his support for abortion and IVF? Anything about Melania’s it’s a woman’s right to choose to kill her baby?

    She is anti-vaxx but is supporting the Father of the Vaxx. She talks about Free Speech and Freedom but cheering for the candidate who will be imposing restrictions on free speech through anti-semitism laws, digital id and more.

    Yes, I agree with all of this – good summary. And this is the sort of honest, unbiased analysis missing from both the MSM and the MAM, as well as all the commentary from supposed “conservatives” for Trump. It truly is as though they’re under a spell – Christians who can gloss over ‘Melania for abortion’, ‘libertarians’ cool with voting for the Father of the Vaccines…

    So many good quotes from your ‘Citizen’ series (these people give hope) – just a couple:

    Every vote tossed their way signals that betrayal doesn’t matter…

    Trump promoted national ID on Rogan – the next step to a total control grid. Along with vaccines, this is what the central bankers want and need to get complete control. Looks like the establishment factions have agreed that Trump is their man to lead patriots and conservatives into the digital concentration camp.

    And the “conservative” MSM, MAM and online commentators seemingly just don’t care!


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  64. Esme says:

    On a different subject, I hardly watch or listen to the MSM/MAM at all now, but did think Andrew Bolt sounded better the other night talking about that ‘homegrown’ inversion – the “Welcome to (our own) Country”


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  65. kaysee kaysee says:

    I came across an article and was going to post the link here. It is a good one so I thought it would be better to be published as a Post on the blog.

    It will have to be done via Admin. I’ll follow up on that and check if it is possible. If not, I’ll post the link in the Open Thread.


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  66. Esme says:

    Email from George Christensen

    Demand Free Speech: Let Candace Owens Speak in Australia

    Grifter for Trump she may be, but it is something that George Christensen has laid all of that out, including the weaponisation of “antisemitism”.


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  67. kaysee kaysee says:

    So many good quotes from your ‘Citizen’ series (these people give hope) – just a couple:

    There are millions of voters and when I come across the brainwashed, from either side, I can only shake my head. But the glimmer of hope is in finding a number of people who have seen through the hype and noise. Even if we, together, are just a minority, it is still better than thinking that it is just one or two of us who think a certain way. There are hundreds, thousands or maybe more.

    I’ve come across so many tweets that I decide to give these rational people a voice on our blog here. It also gives readers an opportunity to check out other opinions through their posts and videos.


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  68. mh says:

    … but it is something that George Christensen has laid all of that out, including the weaponisation of “antisemitism”.

    The Hitler comment from Candy was twisted by the Jews/Zionists, but I actually disagree with her argument that Hitler was not a Nationalist.

    Anyway, here is Candace vs Rabbi Barclay who wrote a hit piece on her:

    This Is Crazy! Rabbi Barclay Attacks Me For Things I Never Said.

    Candace Owens Podcast
    3.22M subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ9GQ-gexhQ


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  69. mh says:

    Alternate version (funnier)

    From 35 min mark:

    Candace Owens DESTROYS “Unholy Rabbi” Barclay
    Nicholas J. Fuentes

    Streamed on:
    Mar 19, 6:12 pm EDT 249K

    https://rumble.com/v4k9qck-candace-owens-destroys-unholy-rabbi-barclay.html


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  70. mh says:

    Rabbi Michael Barclay
    @Rabbi_Barclay

    Friends in Australia have told me that the Jew-hatred there surpasses even the US.

    https://x.com/Rabbi_Barclay/status/1833744672780640433

    I wonder if Andrew Bolt is his friend.


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  71. mh says:

    This is the newspaper of record of a nation that makes tv celebrities out of those that rape Palestinian prisoners:

    Haaretz | U.S. News

    Analysis | Trump’s Revolting Festival of Racism, Hatred, Ignorance and Venom at Madison Square Garden


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  72. mh says:

    Let’s see what these precious apostles of culture have been up to:

    The Age

    ‘Horrifying incident’: Israel asked to explain deadly strike on Gaza residential block

    At least 93 Palestinians were killed or missing and dozens wounded in an Israeli strike on a residential building in the northern Gaza town of Beit Lahiya, the Gaza health ministry said, and the US called the incident “horrifying”.

    Medics said at least 20 children were among the dead.


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  73. mh says:

    Email from The Age

    Where the pandemic response went wrong

    Australians’ trust has been eroded, health systems are struggling and inflation pressures from government pandemic stimulus are still hurting the economy almost five years after the first COVID-19 case was detected, the first wide-ranging inquiry into the national response to the virus has found. The year-long inquiry was commissioned by the Albanese government and was compiled by an independent panel led by senior public servant Robyn Kruk, economist Angela Jackson and infectious disease expert Catherine Bennett.

    Key findings: The Morrison government acted quickly to shut the border and introduce wage subsidies, but its delays procuring vaccines cost lives, and $210 billion in federal stimulus measures drove up inflation. Australia fared well compared to other countries that experienced a larger loss of life and more severe economic downturns. But now children are still suffering mental health and academic consequences of school closures and people are more reluctant to receive vaccines – one in five people said they would not get a vaccine offered by the government in a future health emergency. Elective surgery backlogs still plague hospitals, and front-line workers are burnt out.

    The response: Health Minister Mark Butler said Australia is arguably now worse placed to deal with a pandemic than we were in 2020, and noted that people would be unlikely to accept prolonged isolation and lockdown mandates in the future. The Albanese government has pledged $252 million to establish an Australian Centre for Disease Control, which the inquiry found could help restore trust with an evidence-based approach to planning for pandemics. Opposition Leader Peter Dutton defended the Morrison government’s actions, which he said saved jobs and businesses. Photo: Scott McNaughton


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  74. kaysee kaysee says:

    I am trying to post as many links as I can this week, re the Election. I should have opened a new thread, so it would have been easier for future reference.

    Much hype about the Joe Rogan interview with Trump, a few days ago.
    Much hype about the Tucker Carlson interview with Trump that was posted on his twitter account to coincide with the first GOP primary debate, last year.

    But neither interview dealt with one of the most important topics: the Covid pandemic and vaxx. So they weren’t real interviews just promos for Trump. Controlled media.

    Brian asks:
    Why would joerogan NOT talk about one of the most consequential events in World History?


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  75. Esme says:

    Joe Rogan interview…Tucker Carlson interview…neither interview dealt with one of the most important topics: the Covid pandemic and vaxx. So they weren’t real interviews just promos for Trump. Controlled media.

    We knew they wouldn’t, kaysee. “They wouldn’t, would they”, to paraphrase. What’s more concerning is that they seem to have successfully fooled so many. That’s why, for some cheer, I’ll go back to your “Citizen” tweets and clips of ordinary people who can see through the smokescreen of propaganda.


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  76. Esme says:

    A relief for me but, with apologies for the lack of contribution here, I won’t be posting on the US “election” performance, as I will be doing my best to avoid the “smoke” exposure. I will try to contribute in some other way.


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  77. kaysee kaysee says:

    For Conservatives in the US, especially Christians, it must be getting harder to deal with the new GOP and it policies. How are they to vote? First, it was the caving in to abortion. Now, it is on marriage.

    The new GOP by Vivek says
    .

    Like many Christians and church leaders, this rep from the pro life movement,
    Allie Beth says “lesser of two evils”
    .

    The Bible says


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  78. kaysee kaysee says:

    Christians responding to Allie Beth’s post:

    Christian-1

    Christian-2

    Christian-3


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  79. Esme says:

    Candace Owens DESTROYS “Unholy Rabbi” Barclay

    This was a good performance of hers, whatever she may be.

    I wonder if Andrew Bolt is his friend.

    Who knows? From memory of previous interviews, he seemed to be friendly with the Brendan O’Neills of this world, as far as appearances go. You can see he does try – for example, on the annihilation, under Covid, of trust in institutions purporting to protect and serve the people. Trust that can never be restored if, as we’re given to understand, there will never be any voluntary show of accountability from so many complicit individuals. But obviously they can only ever go so far, only speak so much truth as part of the propaganda machine.

    Not to take away from the terrible, and devastatingly permanent, physical impacts (many ‘awake’ people probably have their own private ‘body count’, that they too may have been, in that eerily isolating way, ‘alone’ in their recognition of as it started to play out in real time – a phone call from a relative, relaying a sudden, explained hospital admission… followed by a ‘virtual’ funeral attendance over a computer screen in a small, “locked down” apartment…) the loss of trust is a huge thing, personally, and for society.


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  80. kaysee kaysee says:

    There were promises during the 2016 campaign that he was going to drain the swamp.

    Drain the swamp-1

    Drain the swamp-2

    Drain the swamp-3


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  81. kaysee kaysee says:

    A relief for me but, with apologies for the lack of contribution here, I won’t be posting on the US “election” performance, as I will be doing my best to avoid the “smoke” exposure. I will try to contribute in some other way.

    My posting on the US Election will conclude before Election Day – 5 November. I have made clear my opinion of the nominees from the two main parties. I have no interest in the Uniparty charade that takes place after that and will not be watching, reading or posting any election info during the election process.

    All that I have been posting so far is for the benefit of critical thinkers to provide them with food for thought and analysis. For intelligent readers who have seen through both candidates and the system, and are wondering how did it come to this.

    For those looking at the future with a sense of despondency, I have posted the Citizen and Christian clips to help them realise that all is not lost. You are not alone in this situation. There are others who have seen through the deception and fakery and are not going to participate in it.


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  82. Esme says:

    Allie Beth says “lesser of two evils”

    The lesser of two evils is still evil.

    There are times we have to obey God, not man. God would not want us voting in support of democide.

    These photogenic celebrity Christians so often reveal themselves, with their glib speeches on rockstar platforms, big on sophistry, light on Truth.


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  83. Esme says:

    It’s not dissimilar to those alternative-denying pro-abortion arguments. Someone else can raise an unwanted child.

    And we don’t have to – surely, we are called not to – participate in an evil, corrupt, murderous system.


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  84. mh says:

    Haaretz | Israel News

    Israeli Officer and Three Soldiers Killed by Explosive Device in North Gaza

    The Israeli army said another officer was seriously wounded in the incident that killed the four combat soldiers in Gaza’s Jabalya


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  85. Esme says:

    Citizen-17

    Love these strong, Christian black men. Saying what (strong, black woman) Candace Owens, for example, isn’t. He and his house “are going to serve the Lord”.

    Melania Trump
    Republican Party
    Do We Need Them?

    ..the Republican Party. They’ve become the new Right who are basically throwing this new direction down our throats, expecting us to acquiesce because they think we need them. Do we need them? That’s a very good question, isn’t it.

    The question the likes of Allie Beth aren’t asking.


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  86. mh says:

    Chris Menahan 🇺🇸
    @infolibnews

    Kamala Harris’ husband Doug Emhoff tells Jewish group that she intends to put a mezuzah on the entrance to the White House if elected.

    The mezuzah is used to distinguish a Jewish household.

    Oct 30, 2024 · 336.7K Views

    https://x.com/infolibnews/status/1851323301676605761


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