Open Thread – October 2024

Posted on October 1, 2024 by Adam D
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  1. Esme says:
    October 1, 2024 at 5:51 pm

    This is interesting, in reply to RFK Jnr remembering his “lifelong friend”

    “I found a considerable lack of work after doing concerts for Palestinian children.. if that’s the way it has to be, that’s the way it has to be. If you support human rights, you gotta support them everywhere.”

    – Kris Kristofferson


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  3. Esme says:
    October 1, 2024 at 6:21 pm

    Vaccines are making your pets ill

    My first dog died relatively early, of cancer that developed around the site of his annual injection – which I subjected him to “faithfully”, believing I was “protecting” him.

    Looking back, making the connection between where the cancer had developed and the annual injection of poison, that was my first inkling that something was amiss with the whole business. The same protective instinct that had me carting one of God’s precious, healthy creatures off to an Office of The Science every year, did ultimately – too late – let me know how misguided I’d been, that my protective instinct had been weaponised against me and my helpless, trusting, beloved dog.


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  4. Esme says:
    October 1, 2024 at 6:26 pm

    People ask Leader regarding chicken registration: “Leader why are governments such authoritarian pricks in UK?”

    After police beat them I say: “If we don’t track chickens this could happen.”

    Apparently some people are planning to overwhelm The Authorities with registrations of frozen chickens etc. Humour and creativity under tyranny!


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  5. mh says:
    October 1, 2024 at 6:59 pm

    Courier Mail

    Dutton’s outrage at ABC Hezbollah question

    Peter Dutton says the ABC is in “greater trouble” than he thought after a reporter asked him about Australia listing Hezbollah as a terrorist organisation.

    ***

    I bet Dutton is pig ignorant.

    Ron Unz

    Our mainstream media almost invariably describes Hezbollah as a terrorist organization, thereby seeming to legitimize all methods of attack against its members and affiliates. As an example of this narrative, Israel has justified its recent assassinations of some of the senior figures by describing those strikes as payback for Hezbollah’s 1983 bombing of our own Beirut Marine barracks, which took the lives of more than 200 American servicemen. Given that the latter claim has been so frequently repeated, I’d come to accept its reality.

    However, Col. Jacques Baud is a highly-regarded former Swiss military officer with extensive experience in the Middle East. When I watched his long and persuasive interview last week, I realized that I may have once again been deceived by the dishonest pro-Israel propagandists who dominate our media.

    According to Baud, Hezbollah was only founded in 1985, so it didn’t even exist at the time of that Marine bombing attack and no one had ever associated its activists with that deadly operation until long afterward, when Israeli propagandists could take advantage of the fading memories of the chronology. Indeed, Casper Weinberger, who had been our defense secretary at the time, stated in a 2001 interview that no one was ever sure who had actually been responsible for killing our Marines in Lebanon. Baud also emphasized that Hezbollah’s military wing was only first designated as a terrorist group by the Europeans in 2013 after it was blamed for a 2012 bombing against Israelis in Bulgaria; but he claimed that attack had actually been the result of a dispute between rival Israeli crime syndicates, and Bulgaria later admitted that there was no evidence that Hezbollah had been involved.


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  6. Esme says:
    October 1, 2024 at 7:36 pm

    I realized that I may have once again been deceived by the dishonest pro-Israel propagandists who dominate our media

    Sounds familiar. I don’t know much about Ron Unz…looked him up and (to the extend that Wikipedia can be believed) he’s from a Ukrainian family of Jewish descent.


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  7. mh says:
    October 1, 2024 at 7:51 pm

    I don’t know much about Ron Unz…looked him up and (to the extend that Wikipedia can be believed) he’s from a Ukrainian family of Jewish descent.

    Wiki is correct. I don’t have an issue with his ethnicity.

    Ron’s catalogue of work suggests he doesn’t have an issue, either.


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  8. mh says:
    October 1, 2024 at 7:57 pm

    This is Dutton vs ABC reporter

    theageaustralia
    The Age
    ·
    6h ago

    Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has engaged in a tense back and forth with a journalist from the ABC, as he accused the national broadcaster of failing to understand why Hezbollah is listed by Australia as a terr*rist organisation

    https://www.tiktok.com/@theageaustralia/video/7420645534932798727

    ***

    Very weak argument from Dutton.

    They are terrorists. So shut up, shut up, SHUT UP!


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  9. Esme says:
    October 1, 2024 at 8:25 pm

    I don’t have an issue with his ethnicity.

    Didn’t mean to suggest that you should. Just interesting is all.


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  10. mh says:
    October 2, 2024 at 12:01 am

    U.S. Sending Thousands More Troops to Middle East to Support Israel, One Day After Biden Said He Wouldn’t

    Chris Menahan
    InformationLiberation
    Oct. 01, 2024

    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64671

    ***

    The article wraps up with this:

    It appears he’s being kept in the dark while Antony Blinken and Jeff Zients run his administration.

    Yes, the Jews are running the show.


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  11. mh says:
    October 2, 2024 at 6:52 am

    Nicholas J. Fuentes
    @NickJFuentes

    This was not an “Iranian attack,” this was an Iranian RESPONSE to Israel’s cyberattacks and assassination of political leaders in Lebanon, Syria, and Iran which has gone unanswered for months.

    Israel is clearly the aggressor. Does Iran have a right to defend itself?

    5:18 AM · Oct 2, 2024 · 395.7K Views


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  12. kaysee kaysee says:
    October 2, 2024 at 5:01 pm

    The attacks and genocide by Israel are called “self-defence”.
    Retaliation against Israel is called “terrorism”.

    1/
    Western media and leaders

    The hypothetical dead Israeli that doesn’t even exist means more to western media than the literal hundreds of thousands of dead Arabs.

    2/
    You are told it’s about Hamas

    Israelis are going on boat tours to watch the carnage in Gaza.
    Shabbat Shalom…

    Easily the sickest ‘people’ on the planet.

    3/
    And Hezbollah

    Israeli settlers have created a group called the “The movement for settlement of southern Lebanon”…🇱🇧

    The group has already started to market homes for the settlements and given all the Lebanese villages new hebrew names..🇮🇱


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  13. kaysee kaysee says:
    October 2, 2024 at 5:10 pm

    The Israeli media are publishing their govt’s plans.

    1/
    For Gaza

    2/
    For Lebanon

    3/
    But, in the west:
    It is about the terrorists.


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  14. kaysee kaysee says:
    October 2, 2024 at 5:21 pm

    kaysee, maybe just something like Culture Thread ?

    That is one option. Thanks, Esme.

    In the example that I had shared, Dylan called his podcast “MindFrame”. I had been thinking of something like Fireside Chat that implies an exchange of thoughts, opinions and ideas in a laidback setting. But the “Fireside” doesn’t fit because this is online and anytime.

    Since there are Chat rooms and News rooms, I thought of Muse Room as another possible name.

    Since this is a Cat blog we could call it Mews Room, but then we don’t want discussions to be catty.🙂

    We can toss around a few more and see what we come up with, but not spend too much time over the name. It doesn’t need to include the word Thread.


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  15. kaysee kaysee says:
    October 2, 2024 at 5:36 pm

    My first dog died relatively early, of cancer that developed around the site of his annual injection – which I subjected him to “faithfully”, believing I was “protecting” him.

    It can be hard to look back and realise how the medical system led us to make certain decisions that were not the best for health.

    Many negatives related to the Covid scam. But one of the big positives is that it has been a wake-up call for those who have been prepared to do their research.


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  16. mh says:
    October 2, 2024 at 5:47 pm

    Sportsbet

    Donald Trump 1.91

    Kamala Harris 1.91


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  17. mh says:
    October 2, 2024 at 6:00 pm

    Is the NSW government going to light up the Sydney Opera House in the Israel Flag colours, like last year? 🇮🇱


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  18. Esme says:
    October 2, 2024 at 6:38 pm

    It doesn’t need to include the word Thread.

    Oh, you’re being creative, kaysee! I thought you just wanted a simple distinction from the political content in open threads (politics v culture etc). I like Mews Room.

    Because it’s online, anytime as you say, it’s sort of more like an exchange of notes or letters than a conversation, so here’s a couple more:

    Passing notes (has a musical meaning too)
    Cat & Co (play on Cobb & Co mail delivery)

    I do like Mews Room, though, if you want a sense of location, like chat rooms etc.


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  19. mh says:
    October 2, 2024 at 6:41 pm

    Question in the Nick Fuentes Superchats tonight @3h 46m 25s

    Would it be correct to say that at the dinner, you were liked more than all the other guests? More than Ye? That’s very significant.

    Nick speaks for about 5 mins and it’s quite entertaining

    Vice Presidential Debate: VANCE VS WALZ

    Nicholas J. Fuentes
    104K followers

    https://rumble.com/v5h3ge5-vice-presidential-debate-1-vance-vs-walz.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp


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  20. kaysee kaysee says:
    October 2, 2024 at 6:59 pm

    Dutton’s outrage at ABC Hezbollah question

    Peter Dutton says the ABC is in “greater trouble” than he thought after a reporter asked him about Australia listing Hezbollah as a terrorist organisation.

    Mary Kostakidis

    ‘Support’ for laws is not in question.

    Is he saying the media is failing to support a law simply by asking what the basis of the listing is?

    The role of the media is to ask questions.
    Mr Dutton should not be trying to intimidate journalists like this.

    The recent protests

    Dr Reuben Kirkham speaks to Chris Smith about the Mis/Disinformation Bill and the recent pro-Hezbollah and Hamas protests, explaining why we should tolerate speech even from those we disagree with.

    Part-1 … Part-2


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  21. mh says:
    October 2, 2024 at 7:08 pm

    I like this

    Syrian Girl 🇸🇾
    @Partisangirl

    ABC journalist @anushri_sood asked opposition leader @PeterDutton_MP why Hezbollah is even listed as a terrorist organisation?

    Rather than answer her, he started heavy breathing, and told her she’s in trouble for daring to ask the question.

    This is what passes off as press freedom in Australia.

    What he should have said is that the US/Israel asked Australia to do it, that the majority of the world doesn’t list them, and that they’ve never threatened Australia and only ever fought an illegal occupation within their own borders so the designation is entirely political.

    https://x.com/Partisangirl/status/1840999013207982382


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  22. kaysee kaysee says:
    October 2, 2024 at 7:17 pm

    I do like Mews Room, though, if you want a sense of location, like chat rooms etc.

    I was going by the name explaining the content we intend to discuss. That’s why I thought of “Muse” because the topics would probably be along the lines of musings, reflections…

    Otherwise, it is like click-bait. Mews Room may appeal to those who enjoy mewing (of the human kind 😉). I don’t think that is our plan. Is it? Muse Room? Mews Room? or something else?


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  23. mh says:
    October 2, 2024 at 7:18 pm

    Is Syrian Girl right though?

    …and only ever fought an illegal occupation within their own borders so the designation is entirely political.

    Wiki:

    In 2012, Hezbollah fighters crossed the border from Lebanon and took over eight villages in the Al-Qusayr District of Syria. On 16–17 February 2013, Syrian opposition groups claimed that Hezbollah, backed by the Syrian military, attacked three neighboring Sunni villages controlled by the Free Syrian Army (FSA).

    ***

    Hezbollah is a Shiite paramilitary force.

    ‘Terrorist’ organisation is a stretch.

    If we can be loose with the term ‘terrorist’ then Israel is a terrorist state. Menachem Begin, Former Prime Minister of Israel, said as much.


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  25. kaysee kaysee says:
    October 2, 2024 at 7:42 pm

    If we can be loose with the term ‘terrorist’ then Israel is a terrorist state. Menachem Begin, Former Prime Minister of Israel, said as much.

    We’ve learnt in the past year to not accept at face value what we have been told about the Middle East conflict. Hamas would have probably faded away if it wasn’t for Netanyahu thinking that he could use them for his own gain. Then, the helpful media tell us that Hamas is a terrorist organisation.

    What is the truth about Hezbollah? Is Iran the enemy we are told it is? If we dig deep enough, we’ll find the answers.

    Israeli Professor Who Met Iran’s President:
    ‘Iran Isn’t a Unique Evil, It’s a Regional Player Like Any Other’

    Some of the comments from the article are here. See no 5 by Rav Zevid.

    I haven’t watched this one. It is Assange’s interview with Nasrallah in 2012. WikiLeaks posted it the day Nasrallah’s death was in the news.

    At this stage, I don’t know enough about Hezbollah, Houthis, Iran, Yemen or any other countries in that region. Good guys and bad guys – depends on who is telling the story.

    But what are the facts?


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  26. kaysee kaysee says:
    October 2, 2024 at 7:50 pm

    Moving on to the UK. The chicken registrations.

    Chickens-1
    .
    Chickens-2
    .
    Chickens-3


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  27. Esme says:
    October 2, 2024 at 7:53 pm

    Muse Room? Mews Room? or something else?

    If it must be a room, maybe..

    The Laundromat – where you might sit and ponder or chat with other non-“useless elites”,”outside the spin cycle” of politics


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  28. mh says:
    October 2, 2024 at 8:51 pm

    The world outside of ‘the west’ is happy to have the conversation that stooges like Peter Dutton condemn.

    China Daily

    Published: 17:19, May 1, 2024 | Updated: 14:11, May 2, 2024
    Israel – The real terrorists
    By Gim Teh

    The Western world (18 percent of the whole world) believe HAMAS is the terrorist of Gaza. That’s a result of mainstream media conflating HAMAS terrorism with legitimate aspirations for self-determination. It disregards the observation that one man’s terrorist may be another man’s freedom fighter in the Gaza strip.

    Most Westerners would also likely reject the idea that, by definition, Zionists and the Israeli military force (IMF) are bigger Gaza terrorists. Paradoxically, however, Israel’s PM, Benjamin Netanyahu, may be said to have in effect admitted his government are Gaza terrorists. This is at a 1986 PBS interview where he said terrorism is about engaging in the “systematic and deliberate attack, the murder, maiming and menacing of innocents, of civilians, for political goals”. This aptly describes what Israel is presently doing in the Gaza strip. And there’s no way he can say he does not know it. Co-incidentally, his definition of “terrorism” is similar to the description approved by the UN’s Sixth Committee (Legal) in 1994, viz they are “criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror … for political purposes”.

    There is no difficulty identifying Zionist terrorism in Gaza. The Israeli Defence Force’s systematic and extensive bombing of Gaza (eg, 11,000+ strikes over three weeks) causing utter terror, extensive civilian casualties and massive destruction of infrastructure are “terrorist” attacks politically motivated to induce fear and terror amongst Palestinians.

    Further, few would doubt the IDF is committing terrorist crimes in other ways, as by cutting off food, medical supplies and piped water to Gaza and thereby creating famine. Another example is the continued bombing of southern Gaza while telling people to go there because it’s supposedly safe. These acts of terrorism are part of Israel’s plan to achieve its political objectives: to eliminate Palestinian civilians or to induce them to leave the Gaza and never to return. There was certainly enough evidence for the International Court of Justice to regard the IDF’s conduct as potentially genocidal, the crime of all crimes. In turn, the sheer terror inflicted on Palestinians by Israel is why the UN Security Council has finally succeeded in passing a ceasefire resolution, overcoming sustained US resistance.

    Further, contrary to misinformation by some Western media, Zionists terrorism did not occur only after October 7, 2023. It goes back decades. There are three reasons why these should be taken into consideration.

    Firstly, from 1920-1940 there were 18 listed Zionist terrorist attacks on Palestinians. These included the killing of 49 people with many others injured when a Zionist terrorist group called Irgun threw a bomb into the melon market in Haifa. It also bombed the King David Hotel killing 91 and injuring around 45 people. From 27 December 2008 to 19 January 2009, the IMF attacked medical personnel and civilians and impeded emergency medical evacuations and also restricted health care for the civilian Gaza population. Also, a decade ago, a Zionist terror group of 30-40 people (known as ‘the Revolt’) launched 12 arson attacks, its aim being to create a Jewish Kingdom in Israel without Arabs. These are good indications that Israel is using terrorist ways to get rid of Palestinians and to enable Israel’s expansion to Palestinian territories.

    Secondly, terrorism, deep-seated in Israel, is led by influential Zionist activists and organizations with an extremist anti-Arab ideology. They regard acts of terrorism as legitimate tools to achieve their vision of the Jewish state. Indeed, one group, the Lehi, proudly referred to its members as terrorists. Also, as pointed out by Yaacov Shavit, Tel Aviv University’s history professor, Lehi members regard Jews as a “master race” and Arabs as a “nation of slaves”. Another group of Zionist supremacists, Lehava, objects to most personal relationships between Jews and non-Jews. Members of the group have promoted the forced expulsion of most Palestinians and Arab Israelis from Israel and the Palestinian territories. It is rather telling that, in March 2023, Israeli minister Bezalel Smotrich said there’s “no such thing” as “Palestinian people”.

    Thirdly, Zionist terrorist groups are often closely linked to Israeli political leaders. Several past Israeli politicians had actually been members of terrorist groups in Israel. For example:

    • Yitzḥak Shamir (PM 1983–84 and 1986–92) was a former leader of the Israel Freedom Fighters (Stern Gang). It readily admitted to having carried out terrorist attacks. In 1948, its activist members became part of the IDF.

    • Yigal Allon, Acting PM of Israel, was a commander of the Palmach, the elite fighting force of an underground army of the Jewish community which became the IDF in 1948.

    • Menachem Begin, Israel’s sixth PM, was a commander of Irgun, described as a terrorist organization by the UN, the UK, the US and in Western media. It was the predecessor to the Likud Party which, since 1977, has led or been part of most Israeli governments.

    • Meir David Kahane, founder of the far-right Israeli political party Kach (once listed in the US as a terrorist organization) was an Orthodox rabbi and ultra-nationalist politician. He served one term in Israel’s parliament (Knesset) before being convicted of acts of terrorism.

    Given this background, why has Western media not even talked about Israel’s terrorist acts in Gaza?

    Gim Teh is a retired Australian law academic. He has an interest in misinformation and imperialism and has written about US-Australia-China relationship. Gim was a member of the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal. He retired in 2003.

    The article is a republication from PEARLS & IRRITATIONS website at https://johnmenadue.com/the-terrorists-of-gaza/

    The views do not necessarily reflect those of China Daily.


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  29. mh says:
    October 2, 2024 at 9:25 pm

    Mary Kostakidis

    ‘Support’ for laws is not in question.

    Is he saying the media is failing to support a law simply by asking what the basis of the listing is?

    The role of the media is to ask questions.
    Mr Dutton should not be trying to intimidate journalists like this.

    I don’t think Mary is addressing the real issue that has been raised by Dutton trying to be a superhero.

    Why should the media, even a national broadcaster, have to mindlessly support a law just because the uniparty legislated it?

    The Marriage Act previously said marriage was between a man and a woman. Is Dutton saying the ABC should never have questioned that law?


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  30. mh says:
    October 2, 2024 at 9:32 pm

    From Unz.com

    About Ron Unz

    A theoretical physicist by training, Mr. Unz serves as founder and chairman of UNZ.org, a content-archiving website providing free access to many hundreds of thousands of articles from prominent periodicals of the last hundred and fifty years. From 2007 to 2013, he also served as publisher of The American Conservative, a small opinion magazine, and had previously served as chairman of Wall Street Analytics, Inc., a financial services software company which he founded in New York City in 1987. He holds undergraduate and graduate degrees from Harvard University, Cambridge University, and Stanford University, and is a past first-place winner in the Intel/Westinghouse Science Talent Search. He was born in Los Angeles in 1961.

    He has long been deeply interested in public policy issues, and his writings on issues of immigration, race, ethnicity, and social policy have appeared in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Commentary, The Nation, and numerous other publications.

    In 1994, he launched a surprise Republican primary challenge to incumbent Gov. Pete Wilson of California, running on a conservative, pro-immigrant platform against the prevailing political sentiment, and received 34% of the vote. Later that year, he campaigned as a leading opponent of Prop. 187, the anti-immigration initiative, and was a top featured speaker at a 70,000 person pro-immigrant march in Los Angeles, the largest political rally in California history to that date.

    In 1997, Mr. Unz began his “English for the Children” initiative campaign to dismantle bilingual education in California. He drafted Prop. 227 and led the campaign to qualify and pass the measure, culminating in a landslide 61% victory in June 1998, effectively eliminating over one-third of America’s bilingual programs. Within less than three years of the new English immersion curriculum, the mean percentile test scores of over a million immigrant students in California rose by an average of 70%. He later organized and led similar initiative campaigns in other states, winning with 63% in the 2000 Arizona vote and a remarkable 68% in the 2002 Massachusetts vote without spending a single dollar on advertising.

    After spending most of the 2000s focused on software projects, he has recently become much more active in his public policy writings, most of which had appeared in his own magazine.


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  31. mh says:
    October 2, 2024 at 10:52 pm

    Al Jizz

    Hezbollah says it attacked and repulsed Israeli troops who infiltrated near the town of Odaisseh in southern Lebanon, and “inflicted losses and forced them to retreat”.

    Israel steps up bombardment of the Gaza Strip, killing dozens of people in separate attacks on shelters and schools, including an orphanage.

    Haaretz

    Israel at War Day 362 | Israeli Soldier Killed in Southern Lebanon Ground Offensive


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  32. mh says:
    October 2, 2024 at 10:59 pm

    Haaretz

    IDF announces name of Israeli soldier killed in combat in Lebanon

    The IDF announced that Capt. Eitan Itzhak Oster, 22 from Modi’in, was killed in combat in Lebanon.

    Oster is survived by his parents, Dov and Yael, and six siblings. He is the first soldier to be killed in southern Lebanon since the IDF began operating in the area. Before entering Lebanon, Oster posted a video on social media in which he recounted his recent visit to Israel’s northern towns, which he described as “ghost towns.”

    “The north is burnt and abandoned, that’s one of the things that were most difficult for me,” he said. “We prepared a lot, and these are the values I was taught at home, and now it’s time for our mission – to bring the northern residents home.”

    He’s European


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  33. mh says:
    October 2, 2024 at 11:24 pm

    Keith Woods
    @KeithWoodsYT

    Let’s check in on the leadership contest of the UK Conservative party

    https://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1841402113567420845


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  34. mh says:
    October 3, 2024 at 6:56 am

    Haaretz | Israel News

    Eight Israeli Soldiers Killed in Southern Lebanon Ground Offensive


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  35. Esme says:
    October 3, 2024 at 4:00 pm

    The role of the media is to ask questions.

    In another time, when it was easier to believe that’s how the world worked, I would’ve been cheering Mary Kostakidis on, and feeling faintly confused because she was “Team Lefty” and I was (ohsomuchcleverer) “Team Conservative”.

    But it’s not how it works at all, is it? The media are the propaganda arm of smiling breakfast TV totalitarianism.


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  36. Esme says:
    October 3, 2024 at 4:02 pm

    About Ron Unz

    Thanks for sharing, mh. Interested to learn about him.


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  37. Esme says:
    October 3, 2024 at 4:03 pm

    Muse Room?

    Yes, go with that, kaysee. Is good.


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  38. Esme says:
    October 3, 2024 at 4:09 pm

    Torah Judaism

    Rabbi Dovid Feldman was attacked by a Zionist in New York.

    The rabbi was attacked by the Zionists because he was on the side of the Palestinian and Lebanese people.

    Rabbi Dovid Feldman was threatened for being anti-Zionism, anti-Israel, and for supporting Palestine and Lebanon.


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  40. Esme says:
    October 3, 2024 at 4:24 pm

    Polly St George

    Candace is a public figure whose investigation / reporting on a current political candidate’s family of origin render her fair game, so to speak.
    She is married into British high society & agitates on many issues. The UK has a long history of subversive propaganda in the US.
    …
    It’d be mind boggling if it weren’t so obvious that they are all assets (in my opinion.) I am hoping that the Tate advocacy will someday come back to bite her & the Network.
    It’s too bad, too, because Candace is very impressive in many ways. She’s not on Team Good Guy, though.


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  41. Esme says:
    October 3, 2024 at 4:28 pm

    Could despair at people still caught up in the “debates”… “… performed better!” “No, … smashed …!” …


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  42. Esme says:
    October 3, 2024 at 5:14 pm

    Were Eric Clapton and Van Morrison just about the only celebrity singers who spoke out against the Covid tyranny while all the other sold souls promoted it? (So much music I can’t really listen to anymore, knowing what they stand for… or don’t)

    Stand and Deliver

    Slowhand and Van – This Has Gotta Stop
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrlPQIdA2js&t=175s


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  44. mh says:
    October 3, 2024 at 7:01 pm

    Al Jizz

    The Dominican Republic says it plans to expel as many as 10,000 Haitian migrants per week, despite a longstanding call from the United Nations to end forced returns to Haiti amid a surge in gang violence there.

    Homero Figueroa, a Dominican presidential spokesman, said on Wednesday that the “operation aims to reduce the excessive migrant populations detected in Dominican communities”.


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  45. mh says:
    October 3, 2024 at 7:14 pm

    I’m sick of hearing about ‘next time’.
    Iran can clearly penetrate the Iron Dome, so let’s go.

    Iran ‘will hit Israel harder next time,’ says Professor Mohammad Marandi

    Sky News
    8.03M subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-2EiPHpam4


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  46. mh says:
    October 3, 2024 at 7:18 pm

    Israeli attack on Gaza school for orphans | AJ #shorts

    Al Jazeera English
    14.6M subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS9i_4M0kmc


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  50. Esme says:
    October 4, 2024 at 6:31 pm

    Strange mix of people.

    Indeed. Not really free, either. Just ‘pretend free’.


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  51. Esme says:
    October 4, 2024 at 6:41 pm

    JD – Il ne decoit pas

    They wiped out your business; they gave your teenager myocarditis; they finished off grandpa in the care home with Midazolam; they shut down your local pub; they put up more wind turbines and 5G towers; they blocked your road; they gave your sister blood clots and brought your uncle’s jogging career to a sudden close with a fatal heart attack; they got you beaten up in a train carriage because some angry tosser took exception to the fact that you weren’t wearing a mask; they humiliated your entire street, every Thursday by cajoling everyone into a Cultural Revolution style display of collective state-worship, banging pots and pans for the vampiric NHS; they mocked you with their private parties; they lied to you every day on the telly and in the newspapers; they sent police drones to film you for taking apparently illicit walks in the Peak District; they closed down the car parks at your favourite walking spot; they taped off the park benches; they drove you insane with rainbow logos and NHS logos everywhere you went; they told you you had to wear a face nappy, even though you knew it was like trying to keep mosquitos out with a tennis net; (if that is you even were to believe viruses exist which you now don’t); they displayed photos of places you couldn’t go to, like Venice, with programming messages like “Isn’t it marvellous how much cleaner the canals are now that no one is allowed to take gondolier rides on them or even look at them?”; they forced you to let your mother die alone – and then wouldn’t let her friends attend the funeral. They did all this, and more, deliberately, when they knew perfectly well that there was no pandemic, that the ‘vaccines’ were both useless and deadly, and that the real reason for all this stuff was to help the Malthusians carry out one of their periodic population culls and so that banksters had a little longer to squirrel away their ill-gotten gains before the economy collapsed totally.

    But it’s OK, you needn’t worry, or feel in any way bitter or angry or vengeful because guess what: lovable, tousle-haired Boris Johnson [the guy in charge of Britain, btw, when ALL the above was happening] has just written a funny autobiography with all sorts of anecdotes, like the time he was in Scotland with his controller Carrie and his kayak was nearly blown out to sea!


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  52. Esme says:
    October 4, 2024 at 7:00 pm

    And…

    Essentially, the message from officialdom is: “Yes, we now admit that the Covid years were a massive disaster, yes those rules and regulations were utterly ridiculous and it’s amazing anyone fell for them frankly, and yes massive cock ups were made by the clowns in charge….

    BUT you can still forgive us everything because it really was a deadly disease and anyway we only did all these horrible things to you because you wanted it. You told us you were scared so we offered you the comfort blanket of bigger government.”

    This is what the Nazis used to call ‘Für ihre sicherheit’. More accurately, it’s what you might call Victim Blaming.

    And they did it here too. Including the supposed ‘freedom movement’ leaders.


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  54. mh says:
    October 5, 2024 at 7:22 am

    US at war

    US air strikes target several cities across Yemen

    Attacks hit key port city of Hodeidah as well as the capital, Sanaa, Houthi-run media and US sources say.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/4/houthis-say-us-air-strikes-target-several-cities-across-yemen


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  55. mh says:
    October 5, 2024 at 7:38 am

    Sen. Lindsey Graham Pivots to Israel After Being Asked About Hurricane Helene Victims

    Chris Menahan
    InformationLiberation
    Oct. 04, 2024

    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64679


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  56. mh says:
    October 5, 2024 at 7:53 am

    Nick Fuentes debated a young liberal this week.
    One of the highlights

    𝔼𝕥𝕙𝕖𝕣-𝕎𝕒𝕧𝕖
    @etherXwave

    Dean Withers (@itsdeaann) asks Nick Fuentes (@NickJFuentes): Who would you rather run the country? Your wife? Or Hitler? Seriously? 💀

    Uh, HITLER!!

    https://x.com/etherXwave/status/1841705572485202017


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  57. kaysee kaysee says:
    October 5, 2024 at 2:43 pm

    Last week’s Rescue the Republic fest was billed by its organisers as non-partisan. Was it? I took a quick scroll through the video but it looked like it was a MAGA-MAHA event.
    It wasn’t MATA.

    from Jimmy Dore’s speech

    Props to jimmydore who just snuck in a 1 min roast of Israel & Zionism during his speech at the #RescueTheRepublic rally today. He was apparently the ONLY one who even brought up Israel at all.

    For that speech, Jimmy won’t be getting a Christmas card from Jordan, this year.

    From JP
    The 13th Rule for Life?


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  58. kaysee kaysee says:
    October 5, 2024 at 2:53 pm

    One of the Oz online MSM papers that I just looked at had the top half of it stories on its current fave subject, as well as its toon for the day. As for the reporting bias, they are not alone.

    Media-1

    Media-2

    Media-3


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  59. kaysee kaysee says:
    October 5, 2024 at 3:02 pm

    Media-4

    Media-5
    Piers Morgan show

    Media-6
    (Re-posting)
    Rupert Murdoch: Israel’s Most Powerful Supporter


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  60. kaysee kaysee says:
    October 5, 2024 at 3:21 pm

    Muse Room?

    Yes, go with that, kaysee. Is good.

    Don’t want to spend too much time on a name. If it’s okay with you, let’s go ahead.

    When I first put this out a few weeks ago, I was thinking of it as part of the Open Thread. But your suggestion, Esme, of having them as threads makes sense because it would be good to separate them from the politics in these threads.

    How do we proceed with this? Usually, if someone (who does not have permissions to the posting site) wants to have their post published, they send it to Adam to get it done. I’ve thought of an easier way for these threads. Anyone who wants to take up a topic for discussion can let me know in the Open Thread by using this name Muse Room and then add the name for their topic.

    As an example, the CS Lewis comment that you posted. So it could be something like this:
    Muse Room – The right to happiness

    I will open up a thread with that title, and then the commenter who suggested the topic can start with the first comment sharing what they want. Using the above example, similar to what you posted here.

    If there is a video link in the comment, as in the case above, I can em-bed it in the Post section to make it easy for those who want to take part.

    What do you think about this method to start it off?
    We can see how it goes from there?


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  61. kaysee kaysee says:
    October 5, 2024 at 3:37 pm

    At the Rage Against War rally last week.

    This hard-hitting speech (12 mins) from
    Russell Dobular

    “You don’t have to bend the knee to any of these warmongering narcissists who wouldn’t p*ss on you and yours if you were on fire. . .we need to get off our knees!”


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  62. kaysee kaysee says:
    October 5, 2024 at 7:06 pm

    What is the GOP game-plan to win this election? Hoping to win the votes of women by going the pro-abortion route?

    He has been playing the pro-life/pro-abortion flip for years. But the gullible Maga will find excuses for him. To appease the pro-lifers, he posted a “Happy Birthday Mary” on September 8 and a prayer to St Michael on September 29 and talked about how God saved him against the said assassinations attempts.

    The Magadonians go ooohhing and ahhing and talking about how close he is to becoming a Catholic. So easy to fool them. They keep falling for it and attacking those who aren’t taken in by the con.

    He has said he is Christian but posted this earlier this week.

    She is said to be Catholic and posted this a few days later.

    There’ll be an appeasing post next week with some prayer or picture, and Maga will forget that they are voting for someone who supports abortion.


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  63. kaysee kaysee says:
    October 5, 2024 at 7:12 pm

    Now, some are finally getting it.

    Michael Matt

    Nobody wants to hear this and many will tell me to shut the hell up because Kamala and my lunatical Governor Walz are worse, and let’s just vote the lesser of two evils, and blah, blah, blah. But this is getting really serious, God help us. . .

    The Lesser of Two Evils?
    .
    The choice for the US


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  65. kaysee kaysee says:
    October 5, 2024 at 7:38 pm

    Reminder for those who need it 🕗

    One
    .

    Two
    .

    Three


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  66. mh says:
    October 5, 2024 at 8:00 pm

    CPAC Brisbane

    As expected, the Israel glazing is strong

    Former UK prime minister Liz Truss has taken a swipe at Anthony Albanese during a broadside at a major Australian political action conference, saying the West is “weak”.

    Ms Truss – who served as the UK’s PM for just 49 days before her resignation – delivered a broadside about the “red mist of socialism” across the Western world in her speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Brisbane.

    Ms Truss took a swipe at prime ministers across the world as she asserted the West was “weak” because of the ongoing conflict in the Gaza Strip …

    … “And what does this mean? Well, it means the West is weak and we can see that by what is happening at the moment in the Middle East.”

    Ms Truss said these governments were not backing Israel, which she called “the sole democracy in the region”, and were instead “appeasing” Iran.


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  67. mh says:
    October 5, 2024 at 8:16 pm

    The West has spent decades fighting Israel’s wars in the Middle East, with an end game of Jewish hegemony in the region.

    We’ve seen Europe subsequently turn from white to brown.

    Now the Jewish owned conservative movement says we are not fighting Israel’s wars hard enough. Oy vey!


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  69. mh says:
    October 5, 2024 at 10:18 pm

    From Iraq

    Haaretz | Israel News

    Two Israeli Soldiers Killed in Drone Strike From Iraq in Northern Israel

    According to the IDF, two drones were fired from Iraq toward northern Israel. One was intercepted, while the other exploded at a base in the Golan Heights, resulting in the deaths of Staff Sergeant Daniel Aviv Haim Sofer and Corporal Tal Dror and injuries to the additional 24 soldiers


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