Open Thread – October 2024

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  1. kaysee kaysee says:

    Two articles on Catholic websites.

    The authors (Viganò and Janet Smith) justification why Catholics should vote for Trump. That those who are not voting for him are misinformed through the media. That there are serious problems with some of Trump’s policies which a Catholic cannot agree with but ….. vote for Trump.

    1/
    Tucker Carlson shares Archbishop Viganò’s ‘remarkably insightful’ letter endorsing Trump

    Tucker Carlson has praised Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò’s “insightful” letter to American Catholics urging them to vote for Donald Trump.

    “A remarkably insightful description of what’s at stake in this election from Catholic Archbishop Carlo Viganò. Please read this,” Carlson wrote Thursday on X before sharing the complete text of His Excellency’s message.

    2/
    On the Brink

    A good case can be made for not voting or voting for a third-party candidate in “non-swing” states, but I believe it imperative for Catholics to vote for Trump in swing states. Indeed, somewhat indirectly, Cardinal Burke makes a strong case for this perspective.


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  2. kaysee kaysee says:

    2020
    Trump gives Netanyahu “Key to the White House”

    Oct 2024
    Trump signals support in call with Netanyahu:
    ‘Do what you have to do’

    Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump expressed support for Israel’s offensives against Hamas and Hezbollah in a recent call with the country’s prime minister

    Trump told Benjamin Netanyahu in one call this month, “Do what you have to do,”

    “He didn’t tell him what to do militarily, but he expressed that he was impressed by the pagers,” …“He expressed his awe for their military operations and what they have done.”


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  3. kaysee kaysee says:

    International doctors who have volunteered in Gaza hospitals have said that they have never seen any Hamas fighters running around any hospital.

    The Catholics endorsing and advocating for Trump, do they also endorse:
    – Trump’s support for Israel’s offensives?
    – His advice to Netanyahu: “Do what you have to do?”

    Offensives like this?

    Kamal Adwan hospital-1

    Kamal Adwan hospital-2

    Elderly Palestinian lady


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  4. kaysee kaysee says:

    Do what you have to do?

    Christians in the Holy Land

    The genocide

    Lebanese journalists

    There are many, many, many more examples of the Israeli offensives that have been posted on this blog.

    Trump supports the Israeli offensives on:
    the innocent civilians, those ill in hospitals, the medical professionals who look after them, the journalists who report on the war, Palestinians whose land and homes are being stolen by the settlers…..

    And those who endorse Trump support his support for:
    the Israeli offensives and agree with his advice to Do what you have to do.


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  5. Esme says:

    Esme, your contribution to the blog is much appreciated.

    Thank you. That means a lot. 🙂 Sometimes the words just flow, and other times it can feel surprisingly difficult to convey the meaning you’d like to on these platforms. Especially with people you’ve never met, however much they might seem kindred spirits. You don’t have the shared ‘shorthand’, the mutual understanding and trust, of people who know each other well ‘in real life’. Words can be misinterpreted, meaning Lost in Translation (sorry, another gratuitous movie link – Bill Murray, karaoke, a shared experience of Japan as a foreigner – what’s not to like?)

    …

    I’ve commented on other blogs before, but things I appreciate about this one: genuinely critical thinking and intellectual honesty that reflects these times (while some supposed “freedom” blogs – like the big-name, highfalutin conferences, alliances etc out there – still promote, or at least start from the false premise of, a genuine, democratic voting choice – how to communicate on such different wavelengths?); unapologetic expressions of Christianity and acknowledgement of the reality of Christian persecution around the world; no domineering zealots hurling insults and shouting down different opinions…

    But mostly I’m grateful for the opportunity of a sense of a simple (virtual) conversation which you don’t always get in throwing a comment on the pile for unpredictable ‘moderation’.

    As you’ve said, kaysee, in amongst all the other activities of daily life, it can be hard to find the time to comment here regularly – let alone on multiple blogs you’d like to support – but it’s good to do what we can, when we can.


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  6. Esme says:

    That there are serious problems with some of Trump’s policies which a Catholic cannot agree with but ….. vote for Trump.

    Says it all, doesn’t it. The clear compromise.

    Tucker Carlson has praised Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò’s “insightful” letter to American Catholics urging them to vote for Donald Trump.

    He would, wouldn’t he.


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  7. Esme says:

    Christians in the Holy Land

    He says:

    The Christians of the West silence is defeating

    Did he mean “deafening”? Either works, I guess.

    Thank you for highlighting this, kaysee.


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  8. mh says:

    Courier Mail


    EXCLUSIVE
    Qld election day’s exit poll shockwaves: Labor surges, election too close to call

    The Queensland election result will come down to the wire, as exclusive exit polling reveals the two major parties are neck-and-neck as voting closes.

    The Courier-Mail polled 2000 voters as they cast their ballots at a cross-section of electorates today, with the final tally revealing 33.9 per cent of voters had backed the LNP, while Labor was just 0.3 points behind with 33.6 per cent of the vote.

    The results show an incredible comeback for the Miles Government, who trailed 48-30 in The Courier-Mail’s first exit poll, conducted on October 14.


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  9. mh says:

    I voted:

    1 LNP
    2 ONP


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  10. Esme says:

    Israeli Ambassador interrogated by LBC callers | Key moments

    It may sound sexist but it’s especially hard to watch and listen to these deflections from a woman. I guess that’s why women are ‘useful’ in such positions.


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  11. Esme says:

    I voted:

    I voted with a (Christian) cross over the ballot paper.


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  12. kaysee kaysee says:

    Thomas Massie
    @RepThomasMassie

    If Israel insists on destroying civilian targets in Lebanon, let them buy and build their own weapons. American taxpayers should not be funding this.

    This could be added on the ballot paper for voters to check one of these options:

    ○ Agree

    ○ Disagree


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  13. kaysee kaysee says:

    There might be a topic that you or mh would be interested in, kaysee? Since I’ve already had a turn

    If you have a topic, post it. We can have multiple Muse Room threads open at the same time.

    No need to be politely waiting your turn to post something here. ˚◡˚

    There are so many points I want to post on – both in the Posts section as well as the Muse Room……but….. time. Right now, my brain is saturated with some of the major world events.


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  14. mh says:

    Max Blumenthal interviews Hamas spokesman on October 7

    The Grayzone
    399K subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8JSXYVhVYQ&t=459s


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  15. kaysee kaysee says:

    Sometimes the words just flow, and other times it can feel surprisingly difficult to convey the meaning you’d like to on these platforms. Especially with people you’ve never met, however much they might seem kindred spirits.

    Yes, sometimes we mean to say something but the words don’t get typed out the way we want. Then you read your own comment after it appears on the thread and think “Oh, no”. But, then, it is not as if there is some limit on words or number of comments. We can post another comment to clarify.

    In a setting, like this one, there are just a few of us on the site. Adam’s blog rule: the
    No D- -kheads Policy is really good. It means that we treat the commenters and the blog with respect. Anyone can disagree with or debate what is posted on the blog, but it has to be free from abuse, sniping or ridicule.

    There are enough problems in real life; there is no point coming to a blog if we have fights and unpleasantness. I see it as “the WEF-fing enemies outside our gates”, not in here.


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  16. mh says:

    OMG, no wonder I don’t watch a lot of Aussie tv.

    Robbie Katter MP is getting grilled by a female CH 7 election coverage anchor on abortion. She’s carrying on like a pork chop. What an old bat.


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  17. mh says:

    The standard of journalism in QLD:

    Courier Mail

    New Premier Crisafulli to lead majority LNP government as Miles concedes defeat

    Steven Miles has refused to concede defeat despite new Queensland Premier David Crisafulli on track to lead a majority LNP government. LIVE COVERAGE


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  18. mh says:

    Andrew Bolt will be happy.

    The Age

    Extremist influencer Candace Owens’ Australian visa cancelled

    Tony Burke said Candace Owens’ remarks about minority groups has the “capacity to incite discord in almost every direction”.


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  19. mh says:

    We don’t this sort of thing in Australia

    Candace Owens
    @RealCandaceO

    Can somebody explain to me why Elon Musk is not allowed to communicate with Vladimir Putin?

    11:48 PM · Oct 25, 2024 · 7.2M Views


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  20. mh says:

    Coalition easily wins majority government in QLD

    ABC headline

    Coalition projected to win underwhelming victory in Queensland election | ABC News


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  21. kaysee kaysee says:

    US Elections – Continuing from yesterday
    The Cult- Follow the leader

    1/
    Many people who work at polling booths do it as volunteers. It is long hours and they don’t get paid very much. There are clear rules for voters when they come to vote:
    No political signs or logos.

    Early voting has opened. I just came across this clip and I have a question for you:
    Which is worse:
    What the Magadonian said and did, OR the response of the GOP VP nominee?

    2/
    Maga Influencer-1
    Leading the McCult. Make America McDonald’s Again.

    3/
    Maga Influencer-2
    Preparing the cult for another J6.


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  22. kaysee kaysee says:

    It is about MIGA not MAGA.
    Three “Vote for Trump” ads appealing to Jewish voters.

    1/
    Trump Ad-1
    From the Republican Jewish Coalition Victory Fund

    One of the replies
    Whoever wrote this script is *not* Jewish.
    These ladies would not end their chat with “amen!”

    2/
    Trump Ad-2
    Origins unknown

    3/
    Trump Ad-3
    From the same coalition in Ad-1


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  23. kaysee kaysee says:

    Opinions on the election/voting from American citizens or world citizens.

    Citizen-1

    Citizen-2

    Citizen-3


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  24. Esme says:

    ‘Sad’ seems too small a word to cover the ‘conservatives’ for Trump/’right of centre’ politics/Israel, directing people to a three-hour Joe Rogan interview for an exercise of their “critical thinking”. Anyone with intact critical faculties doesn’t need to know any more about the Father of the Vaccines.


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  25. Esme says:

    If you have a topic, post it. We can have multiple Muse Room threads open at the same time.

    No need to be politely waiting your turn to post something here. ˚◡˚

    There are so many points I want to post on – both in the Posts section as well as the Muse Room……but….. time. Right now, my brain is saturated with some of the major world events.

    Thank you, kaysee 🙂 I understand and can relate. I feel inspired to focus on something positive and forward-looking. Have some thoughts and ideas. It is a challenge when we’re surrounded by the uniparty timewarp though!


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  26. kaysee kaysee says:

    …. directing people to a three-hour Joe Rogan interview for an exercise of their “critical thinking”

    I was just putting together the clips for my next comment related to that interview. It doesn’t fit into the Citizen series.

    (The Joe Rogan interview with Trump yesterday)

    Before the interview

    One reply predicted:
    LOL at you thinking Rogan will push the father of our Covid response

    After the interview

    JP says


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  27. Esme says:

    Extremist influencer Candace Owens’ Australian visa cancelled

    Tony Burke said Candace Owens’ remarks about minority groups has the “capacity to incite discord in almost every direction”.

    So the “free” Australian public square is vacuum sealed against such “extremist”, now ban-tainted utterances (what were they again?), and people pushing for the ban behind the scenes can pretend they had nothing to do with it. Ban speech – who, us?

    Shades of the Novak Djokovic Covid “vaccine” ejection – for our “safety”. This time, to avoid “discord”.


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  28. Esme says:

    Sorry for disrupting your flow, kaysee


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  29. mh says:

    Dan Bilzerian
    @DanBilzerian

    If you’ve got a pair of balls, repost this

    https://x.com/DanBilzerian/status/1850166967472201920


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  30. mh says:

    Courier Mail

    ‘Disrespectful’: 7News promo ruffles feathers

    7News Queensland’s latest promotional campaign celebrating the arrival of its new co-anchor has reportedly stirred up controversy among industry peers.

    ***

    The new co-anchor is an activist

    7NEWS Brisbane
    @7NewsBrisbane

    Robbie Katter joins the 7NEWS panel for a debate on women’s reproductive rights.

    https://x.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1850119382955131343


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  31. kaysee kaysee says:

    Sorry for disrupting your flow, kaysee

    What’s that?

    You didn’t disrupt anything.


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  32. kaysee kaysee says:

    If you’ve got a pair of balls, repost this

    In 18 hours it has 24K reposts and 45K likes.

    We have posted plenty on Zionism in our Open Threads, but I am trying to put info in the threads dedicated to this ongoing war so that it will be easy to find links and proof of the genocide, if we need to later on.

    More from Rick Wiles.
    2% control the rest
    .

    Michael Tracey
    The caliber of US political debate on Israel and the Middle East is a global laughingstock


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  33. Esme says:

    Robbie Katter joins the 7NEWS panel for a debate on women’s reproductive rights.

    He handled that pretty well. And he’s right that she doesn’t speak for all women. The idea of killing my unborn baby – another human being, created in God’s image, with as much right to live as I have – would’ve caused me more “angst” than any possible suffering or inconvenience of my own.

    And what about adoption? Very few babies available for adoption nowadays. They never even countenance that as an option. As though it’s unheard of, unthinkable, that a woman might selflessly carry a baby to term, and let him or live, to be looked after by someone else. It’s all or nothing.

    Some of the comments are surprisingly reassuring.


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  34. kaysee kaysee says:

    🎕 ┈┈┈┈ 🎕 ┈┈┈┈ 🎕
    And for this Sunday…

    I Love to Tell the Story

    .

    A Ponderable


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  35. mh says:

    He handled that pretty well. And he’s right that she doesn’t speak for all women.

    Notice she rolled her eyes at the end.

    She is a disgrace, a partisan hack, and CH7 News MUST move her on.


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  36. mh says:

    Trump called him a Palestinian.
    This is becoming cartoonish.
    Cartoonishly evil.

    Stew Peters
    @realstewpeters

    Here’s a United States Senator pledging his allegiance to Israel.

    This is TREASON.🐀☠️

    https://x.com/realstewpeters/status/1850248214995247279


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  37. mh says:

    Haaretz | Israel News

    Four Israeli Soldiers Killed in Southern Lebanon Combat, IDF Announces

    An initial IDF probe into the event says the force was caught by surprise by three Hezbollah militants hiding in a building. The militants threw grenades and shot toward the soldiers when a fire broke out, making the structure collapse


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  38. mh says:

    Candace Owens
    @RealCandaceO

    Today is the feast of Christ the King.
    It is reminder, as my priest said in mass, that Christ reigns supreme—over politics and media.

    I will never bend the knee to those whom reject Christ. I welcome any and all persecution that may come my way because of this.

    #ChristIsKing
    Oct 28, 2024 · 269.3K Views


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  39. Esme says:

    Christ reigns supreme—over politics and media

    It’s a good message at least, from a public figure whose utterances have been deemed unacceptable for free Australia


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  40. Esme says:

    Melania Trump on “abortion rights”:

    “Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does with her own body? A woman’s fundamental right of individual liberty, to her own life, grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes.

    “Restricting a woman’s right to choose whether to terminate an unwanted pregnancy is the same as denying her control over her own body. I have carried this belief with me throughout my entire adult life…

    “I have always believed it is critical for people to take care of themselves first,” Melania Trump writes. “It’s a very straightforward concept; in fact, we are all born with a set of fundamental rights, including the right to enjoy our lives. We are all entitled to maintain a gratifying and dignified existence…

    Saying “timing matters”, Melania Trump also defends the right to abortion later in pregnancy.

    Because timing matters, these statements come out now, not during the greatest, most widespread infringements of “individual liberty” in our lifetime, which her husband’s regime oversaw with Covid. When there was to be no talk of “my body, my choice”, nothing about people “taking care of themselves first”, even absent any real threat, as has since been acknowledged.

    And, as usual with these statements, there are many words about the adult woman, her agency, her rights, her life – of which she may happily have already enjoyed a significant proportion. But very few words allocated to the innocent unborn child, the life yet to be lived, the life denied. And always that cold, clinical “terminate”, for the snuffing out of a tiny, helpless human being.


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  41. Esme says:

    Notice she rolled her eyes at the end.

    And the male voice muttering “oh my God” at the reminder that there are “babies in this equation as well; they need representation”. The tragic irony that the God (casually, unintentionally) invoked would be on Katter’s side, on the ‘side’ of the innocent baby, not these smilingbreakfasttvtotalitarians. They actually make me feel physically ill, the ‘well-made-up monster’ characters they play. I know we should pray for them.

    Yes. The babies need representation. Those who haven’t yet been given the chance to take an independent breath.


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  42. Esme says:

    Citizen-2

    I’m not Right. I’m not Left.

    I like this.


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  43. Esme says:

    BRICS

    BRICS calls for ceasefire in Gaza, denounces Israel for ‘mass killings’


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