Open Thread – Tuesday 17 August 2021

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  1. srr says:

    The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #198

    https://www.lotuseaters.com/the-podcast-of-the-lotus-eaters-198-16-08-21

    Published 16th Aug
    Callum and Jon discuss the fall of Afghanistan, Lawrence of Kabul, and the woke imperialist response to the events.


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  2. H B Bear says:

    Someone tell bird to fuck off.

    Why waste your time? He’s convinced of his genius despite the mounting contrary evidence. I’m too busy with nano wrigglers.


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  3. Top Ender says:

    PROSECUTORS in the murder trial of NT Police officer Zach Rolfe will apply for proceedings to be stayed pending an appeal to the High Court of Australia.

    Rolfe has pleaded not guilty to murdering 19-year-old Kumanjayi Walker in a police shooting in Yuendumu in 2019.

    The full bench of the NT Supreme Court last week ruled an immunity provision in the Police Administration Act could be put to the jury in the trial now due to start next Monday.

    But late on Tuesday it was announced the Crown would apply to the High Court for special leave to appeal the Full Court’s ruling.

    Section 148B of the act excuses police officers from criminal responsibility for acts done “in good faith” during the performance of their duties.

    Crown prosecutor Philip Strickland SC had argued that if Rolfe was acting in defence of himself or a colleague, he was no longer exercising the police power of arrest.

    But in their joint decision, Justices Stephen Southwood and Dean Mildren ruled there was nothing in the act “to prevent a police officer from exercising multiple powers and performing multiple functions during the course of a single incident”.

    “The Crown’s submissions overlook the fact that at the relevant time the defendant may have been exercising his power of arrest and simultaneously performing his functions of preventing an offence and protecting the life of Constable (Adam) Eberl,” they wrote.

    “It may be that when he fired the second and third shots the defendant was intending to both arrest the deceased and defend Constable Eberl.

    “It would be open to the defendant, if he gives evidence, to state as much.”

    Mr Strickland is set to make the stay application after the NT’s current three day lockdown is due to end on Thursday afternoon.


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  4. Roger says:

    “stay-at-home orders were “consistent with the maintenance of constitutional government”, “rationally connected” to the public health purpose and alternatives were not equally effective, he said”

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    Ask the Swedes about alternatives, you dimwits.


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  5. Fat Tony says:

    struth says:
    August 17, 2021 at 6:12 pm
    “Truckies do not have to be vaccinated.”

    Didn’t Pony Girl announce yesterday that, from this Friday, all truck drivers coming into Qld had to be vaccinated?


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  6. H B Bear says:

    Truckies do not have to be vaccinated.

    I’ve got my Waylon Jennings cassette on in the background as a prophylactic. Seems to be working.


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  7. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    ikamatua says:
    August 17, 2021 at 3:41 pm

    Arky, spot on. We, in the West, are in the grip of the most rancid, immoral main-chancers anyone ever could imagine. They care for no-one but themselves.


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  8. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    I see the polls have gone well south, in fact further south than Antarctica, for the NSW and Federal Govts.

    Will we see a change of tack now?


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  9. egg_ says:

    Truckies do not have to be vaccinated.

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    State ‘Elf Depts seem to be using “less than 15 days stay” and “transiting” Interstate lockdown suburbs as an out for “cross border travel” by “specialist workers” in “Essential Industries”.


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  10. cohenite says:

    Do it yourself.

    Fuck off you fat little turd.


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  11. JC says:

    Cronkite, stop swearing. Just try to be nice, you idiot.


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  12. egg_ says:

    “stay-at-home orders were “consistent with the maintenance of constitutional government”, “rationally connected” to the public health purpose and alternatives were not equally effective, he said”

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    Ask the Swedes about alternatives, you dimwits.

    …………………………………………………..

    I self-identify as a Swede.


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  13. Lizzie of Sydney says:

    “For this heroic act I was immediately decorated. Splat. Just above my right ear. Emperors of Rome had slaves in their chariots to warn them of pride. I have ungrateful currawongs.”

    My sympathies, Bruce. Our new beaut frameless windows in the terrace now called ‘the conservatory’ has not been a hit with the Currawongs. They roost on the top of the roof and tip their bums over and let go a squelchy one, all white, to muck up the windows. Mum Currawong, my little darling, of course stays serenely in the Jacaranda awaiting her feed. She is the only one I feed now that Spring is here in the garden.

    We spent three hours down in the lower garden today doing good works while some local double-vaxed electricians were working on a few switches and power points for us inside. We’ve used them a lot over the years. Vacating the premises, we were, as required, taking a little light refreshment as sustenance. It turned out to be quite a treat for we hadn’t been down there for weeks and everything was budding up a treat. We got busy trimming the olives and the pomeganite, putting white oil on the citrus tress, giving everything a thorough watering; and I collected two beautiful smooth lemons of plump dimensions and a yellow worthy of the Isle of Capri. A lovely day for a lockdown in Sydney’s beautiful sunshine. There are still good things to do.


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  14. egg_ says:

    Their immune system is already compromised by this most vital work. So after they get the kill shot tomorrow they will break down faster than other people who have gotten it. Their gig is a tougher and more vital gig than the others. And much harder to replace excepting a full commie takeover.

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    Frankenvaxxed chicken van men might take out a few more plod?


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  15. Makka says:

    This Osaka women makes me sick. Turning on the water works at merest hint of adversity or contra opinion. Spoiled little princess who really needs to just grow tf up. Her parents need to be thrown in jail for raising such a precious snowflake.


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  16. Indolent says:

    Truckies do not have to be vaccinated.
    *********************

    How about if they went on strike. Would that end this madness?


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  17. Speedbox says:

    Now I’m depressed and angry.

    For reasons that are not important I needed to go through some photos and videos of my family and I on holidays.

    Jeez we had some fun and the memories came flooding back. The kids and wife looked so happy and relaxed.

    God knows when we can have another holiday like those. And in fact, will we ever? Coming up towards two years of this vast stupidity. Two years of the kids missing out on happy family holiday memories. My oldest daughter turned 21 recently (no party of course) – how much longer will she want to come away with my wife and I and her siblings?

    I will never forgive this travesty.


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  18. johanna says:

    johanna says:
    August 17, 2021 at 6:51 pm

    The humiliation of the US in withdrawing from Afghanistan is extraordinary. Not that they did it, but how.

    Mark Steyn sums it up:

    ” We mentioned General Milley on ‘white rage’ at the top of the show. That’s not the most dispiriting remark by an American general in recent days. That award would have to go to the Nato commander supervising our exit from Afghanistan. From The Daily Mail:

    ‘General Austin Scott Miller, commander of US and Nato troops in Afghanistan, said he was shocked by how quickly the Afghan National Army had surrendered to the Taliban.’

    I don’t know whether he’s a three-star, four-star, 137-star general, but a guy who professes to be shocked by how quickly the Afghan National Army is surrendering to the Taliban has no business being a general at all…

    For twenty years American taxpayers have trained and paid an Afghan National Army that’s fallen apart in twenty minutes. Here they are surrendering to the Taliban. Don’t all throw down your weapons at once, lads…

    Over a thousand so-called Afghan National Army troops have fled into Tajikistan, so Tajikistan has sent 20,000 reservists to secure its southern border.

    We can’t secure our southern border because we’re too busy training Afghans to flee across Tajikistan’s southern border.”
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    https://www.steynonline.com/11598/the-scale-of-humiliation

    The images of people clinging on to planes leaving Kabul say it all. Devastating, after Joe Biden said that ‘this is not Saigon’ while helicopters lifted people out of the US embassy.

    I’m not an American, so don’t care about their national pride and image. But, as an Australian I do care that these fuckwits are supposed to help to defend us.

    Joe has gone on holidays while the US military and national pride are trashed.


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  19. Runnybum says:

    Pluckaduck is pushing hard for compulsory poison jabs.


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  20. Rockdoctor says:

    BBS, I am suspecting the same from word of mouth. Scomo for being gutless and Gladys for being all over the shop. A couple of left leaning pollsters I found confirmed the trend but the questions asked were very loaded towards the narrative.

    Weathers already turning, another couple of weeks and it will be harder to keep the same trick. Blossoms will be in full bloom, days longer and warmer. People will notice that.

    A piece of pure conjecture on my part is that Scomo’s recent fall out with Gladys is more to frustration at the polls with a razor thin margin. Being down to nearly 1 year before the election has to be held.

    I am not going to make a definitive call. Some of the more draconian measures being justified with the thinnest of respectability and the public has unquestioningly accepted it…


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  21. cohenite says:

    FMD, this country is gutted, frizzled and boned:

    NSW environment minister urges voters worried about climate crisis to ‘send a message’ at ballot box

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/17/nsw-environment-minister-urges-voters-worried-about-climate-crisis-to-send-a-message-at-ballot-box

    Matt kean; look at the bastard.


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  22. H B Bear says:

    The nano wrigglers getting to you Birdie? See if the Waylon Jennings works on them too. See if you can get a CD from the library.


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  23. cohenite says:

    Cronkite, stop swearing. Just try to be nice, you idiot.

    Alright, you deal with him.


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  24. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    God knows when we can have another holiday like those. And in fact, will we ever?
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    That’s a question I’m asking myself, these days. There was a bucket list.


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  25. Roger says:

    God knows when we can have another holiday like those. And in fact, will we ever?

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    Good news!

    An expert perfesser today said that given the efficacy – or lack thereof – of the current vaccines we can expect waves of outbreaks and lockdowns for the next ten years.

    Whether society as we know it can survive that long is another matter entirely.


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  26. JC says:

    Hands up anyone who thinks the CCP believes the US, under president Dementia, will not lift a finger to assist Taiwan.

    Things could really ugly really soon.


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  27. JC says:

    cohenite says:
    August 17, 2021 at 7:05 pm

    Cronkite, stop swearing. Just try to be nice, you idiot.

    Alright, you deal with him.

    Fair enough. Don’t stop swearing at him then.


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  28. ikamatua says:

    I want every one of these bums voted out at the next election.
    Both state and federal.
    All of them.
    The whole sodding lot.
    I don’t care if it puts Labor in federally, as long as it also kicks out Danno.
    Faulty is right this once.
    Put every last stinking one of these sitting frauds last.
    Not in any expectation tht the replacements will be any better, but because I don’t want to see there f*cking faces anymore.


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  29. ikamatua says:

    For our sitting members, both state and federal:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3xU0fnjUcg


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  30. egg_ says:

    An expert perfesser today said that given the efficacy – or lack thereof – of the current vaccines we can expect waves of outbreaks and lockdowns for the next ten years.

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    Was he even bothering to conceal his schadenboner?

    /Nerd’s delight


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  31. Roger says:

    ‘General Austin Scott Miller, commander of US and Nato troops in Afghanistan, said he was shocked by how quickly the Afghan National Army had surrendered to the Taliban.’

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    Before we condemn the ANA, someone ask him why the US provided them with no air support.


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  32. H B Bear says:

    Are you trying on a #gangoffour filibuster fucker?

    I do my best.


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  33. Roger says:

    Hands up anyone who thinks the CCP believes the US, under president Dementia, will not lift a finger to assist Taiwan.

    Things could really ugly really soon.

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    Hot off the press:

    BEIJING/TAIPEI, Aug 17 (Reuters) – China carried out assault drills near Taiwan on Tuesday with warships and fighter jets exercising off the southwest and southeast of the island, in what the country’s armed forces said was a response to “external interference” and “provocations”.


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  34. Zipster says:

    Oh poo I just woke up. Now I’ll never know what happened. Any idea?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lin-a2lTelg


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  35. johanna says:

    It is indeed frightening that it is seriously being suggested that we should give up our civil liberties because of a virus.

    Think about it. A virus is more important and powerful than many centuries of human thought and achievement.

    What madness is this?

    Of course, it’s not the virus itself, but those who have battened themselves on to it for their own ends.


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  36. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Before we condemn the ANA, someone ask him why the US provided them with no air support.
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    Weren’t the Yanks laying on B-52 and “Specter” gunship strikes?


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  37. Zipster says:

    Hands up anyone who thinks the CCP believes the US, under president Dementia, will not lift a finger to assist Taiwan.

    As POTUS the price went up from 1billion to 10 billion


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  38. Mater says:

    An expert perfesser today said that given the efficacy – or lack thereof – of the current vaccines we can expect waves of outbreaks and lockdowns for the next ten years.

    I don’t doubt it at all.

    As I reported in my last Musing, Swine Flu (A(H1N1)pdm09) has been killing Australians since the 2009 pandemic.

    Apparently the cure for A(H1N1)pdm09 is Covid-19. In an obvious demarcation dispute, Covid has ostensibly killed it off, and every other flu variety, off in the great flu extinction event of July 2020.


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  39. JC says:

    Zip

    Dementia is now regarded as very weak. If want to go there wouldn’t be a better time.


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  40. Tintarella di Luna says:

    Hands up anyone who thinks the CCP believes the US, under president Dementia, will not lift a finger to assist Taiwan.

    Mine’s up


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  41. Dot says:

    *An expert perfesser today said that given the efficacy – or lack thereof – of the current vaccines we can expect waves of outbreaks and lockdowns for the next ten years.*

    The fuck outta here poindexter.


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  42. cohenite says:

    The DHS lists as its designated main terrorist threats:

    People who won’t wear masks
    People who think Trump won the election.

    As I said earlier the leader of the talifucks vows for their victory in afghanishit to go global.

    Next major muzzie terrorist attack on the West:

    1 month
    2 months
    3 months


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  43. incoherent rambler says:

    because I don’t want to see there f*cking faces anymore.
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    Dan’s face to the tune of the Angels’ song

    ” I nevah wanna see your face again ”

    I think I have an ad campaign.


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  44. Makka says:

    As I reported in my last Musing, Swine Flu (A(H1N1)pdm09) has been killing Australians since the 2009 pandemic.

    ____________________________________________________

    So have doctors. These are the experts who are controlling our lives and removing our freedoms. Many times more Australians die from doctor error than covid. How many of them are locked up?

    “In Australia medical error results in as many as 18 000 unnecessary deaths, and more than 50 000 patients become disabled each year. ”

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1117772/
    Epidemiology of medical error


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  45. Roger says:

    Weren’t the Yanks laying on B-52 and “Specter” gunship strikes?

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    Not rcently that I know of.

    Some time ago – in July – the US announced it would only target al Qaeda by air (and I don’t think they’ve done even that).

    If only they’d adopted that policy in 2001.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/us-signals-no-change-in-airstrikes-as-afghan-taliban-advance-joe-biden-john-kirby-afghanistan-frank-mckenzie-mark-milley-b1899775.html


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  46. calli says:

    Next major muzzie terrorist attack on the West:

    Twenty-four days.


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  47. Speedbox says:

    Roger says:
    August 17, 2021 at 7:06 pm

    Thanks Roger, that’s cheered me up. /sarc


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  48. Makka says:

    A more up to date analysis of deaths by doctor in Australia, Sept 2020;

    “The Medical Journal of Australia (MJA) perspective was penned by Professor Ian Scott, Director of Internal Medicine and Clinical Epidemiology at Princess Alexandra Hospital, and Associate Professor Carmel Crock, Emergency Department Director at the Royal Victorian Eye and Ear Hospital.

    They claim an estimated 140,000 cases of diagnostic error occur in Australia each year. Of those cases, 21,000 are of serious harm, and result in 2000–4000 deaths.”

    Covid deaths this year ~50


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  49. johanna says:

    Steve Trickler, one for you.

    No Static at All/FM (Steely Dan, 4.30)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV3zWSawJiw

    For young people, for a very long time radio was AM and crappy – dropouts, and static, being bzzzz and screechy noises. When FM came out in the 80s all that went away.

    They gave Bob Dylan an award for his lyrics. In my opinion, Becker (RIP) and Fagan
    are more than worthy.

    Pages and pages of stylish and incisive lyrics, literate too, well above ‘hey nigga fuck da copz.’


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  50. Roger says:

    Thanks Roger, that’s cheered me up. /sarc

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    Yeah, sorry mate.

    On the upside, the experts are usually proven wrong.

    And I don’t think there’s any way the public will cop ten years of rolling lockdowns.

    Even Karl Stefanovic is getting antsy on morning TV, or so I’m advised.


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  51. Boambee John says:

    JC says:
    August 17, 2021 at 7:11 pm
    Hands up anyone who thinks the CCP believes the US, under president Dementia, will not lift a finger to assist Taiwan.

    Things could really ugly really soon.

    Right about now, several carefully machined pieces of fissile material are being inserted into pre-prepared bomb casings somewhere in Taiwan, possibly also in Japan and South Korea.


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  52. Ruprecht says:

    A fair few reports in the media of ‘Aussies’ stranded in Afghanistan. How did they get permission to leave and why did they bother going in the first place ? My heart bleeds.


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  53. cohenite says:

    Tucker Carlson on what caused the failure of aghanishit: the left using muslim shitholes to experiment their theories about what should matter: gender studies, female advancement and every other leftie woke idea:

    https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=search&v=899454070666421&external_log_id=bf651aed-5580-4d7f-a50f-e79bb73f50a7&q=tucker%20carlson


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  54. Steve trickler says:

    For those that missed it. Scary stuff. That positive G stuff is enough to make you spew!

    Skip Stewart Pitts Aerobatics – EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2021

    Batshit insane.


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  55. Speedbox says:

    johanna says:
    August 17, 2021 at 6:58 pm

    But the weird thing is Joanna, last Tuesday night a flash message went out that said “leave NOW”. The message was sent from numerous embassies and foreign affairs depts to all foreign personnel known to be in Afghanistan. I posted it on the Cat – so I’m a little confused as to why the events of the last 24 hours were such a surprise.

    Sure, the collapse of the Afghan military and speed of the Taliban advance was extraordinary, but the message a week ago was unambiguous. Somebody ‘guessed’ correctly. Further, the Taliban have been making low grade attacks in Kabul for at least a fortnight. Maybe the Generals just weren’t listening to their in-country intelligence services.


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  56. H B Bear says:

    And I don’t think there’s any way the public will cop ten years of rolling lockdowns.
    Even Karl Stefanovic is getting antsy on morning TV, or so I’m advised.

    His new missus must want to go shoe shopping with the girls again.


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  57. Ruprecht says:

    A real headline at the DM

    “ CNN reporter dons burka to report on Taliban fighters in Kabul and says they ‘seem friendly’ despite chanting ‘Death to America’ and telling her to stand aside because she’s a woman”


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  58. 132andBush says:

    Thinking about the four alt cat sites I’ve checked out and relating to my small town.

    This site: The Pub

    New Catallaxy: The Exies/Bowling Club (Hats off and decent footwear)

    Montys : Dinner Party hosted by the Public School teachers union rep.

    Arkys: My neighbours machinery shed, complete with homemade wood burning heater, beer fridge and BBQ (no more than a ten metre walk for a slash).


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  59. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Layloma Hafizi: Embassy ‘abandoned’ mother in Kabul
    Tom Ball
    Tuesday August 17 2021, 12.01am BST, The Times
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    The daughter of a 79-year-old woman stranded in Kabul has said that her mother has been abandoned by the British embassy.

    Layloma Hafizi, a British citizen from Coventry, flew to Afghanistan last month to attend a funeral but was unable to get a flight home in the turmoil once the Taliban insurgency began.

    She went to the British embassy for help but was “dismissed” by employees, who did not even take down her details, according to her daughter, Fereba Hafizi, who claimed that the embassy was prioritising diplomatic officials and Britons working in Afghanistan.

    Ahmadzai, who worked for the British army, tells how he has been abandoned and Charlie Herbert, a former major general, describes how crucial interpreters were
    Listen now

    Eventually her mother, who uses a wheelchair, was told that her name would be put on the list for an evacuation flight, but officials could not guarantee her a place. They advised her to keep trying to book a commercial flight, very few of which are leaving the country. “My mother is a very strong woman but this is the first time in her life that she is feeling scared,” Hafizi, 29, a fashion photographer, said.

    British military planes evacuated 300 people on Sunday. Ben Wallace, the defence secretary, was aiming to take 1,200 to 1,500 a day of 4,000 British citizens and 2,000 Afghans identified for evacuation.

    Britons have been told to register with the embassy. Kitty Chevalier, 24, who works for the British charity Afghanaid, was among those who left the country on an evacuation flight to Dubai. She said that non-British citizens, including two of her Dutch colleagues, were allowed on the flight.

    A physics student at Loughborough University who said he had no regrets about flying to Afghanistan four days ago for a holiday claimed that his phone calls and emails to the embassy had been ignored.

    Miles Routledge, 21, from Birmingham, had seen videos promoting the country as a tourist destination. “I thought [Afghanistan] looked quite nice, the food seemed amazing and it was dirt cheap,” he said.

    He said yesterday that he was now in a United Nations safehouse in Kabul with about 50 other foreign citizens.
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  60. Timothy Neilson says:

    If JC is still around, what do you think of BHP’s carbon-friendly future and women’s targets?
    Looks like a “woke shitheads in charge” alert.
    Is it time to head for the exits?


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  61. PeterW says:

    Before we condemn the ANA, someone ask him why the US provided them with no air support.

    ANA outnumbered the Talibs by 4:1 and had superior weaponry. What the hell makes you think that air-support was the critical factor?

    How much air-support do the Talibs have?


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  62. Joanna says:

    Next major muzzie terrorist attack on the West:
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    Within 48 hours of Kamala being installed. Day one will be Vogue cover shoots and adulation. Day two, bam.


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  63. Rex Anger says:

    If its a major attack then its a false flag. Get that through your thick bigoted head.

    ‘Oh Noes!’ cries Graeme.

    ‘Nanna-wrigolos gern git usz!!!1!’ 😱😱😱😱😱

    #Nano-wiggler Libel Lyfe


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  64. Speedbox says:

    Roger says:
    August 17, 2021 at 7:57 pm

    I saw something a day or so ago where we might be ‘allowed’ to travel to specific countries under bubble arrangements. NZ, most Pacific countries, Singapore and the US. The UK was possible, maybe, if we’ve been good. Only for those double vaccinated. Next year some time, hopefully from January or February. Maybe. Depends.

    Again….with guttural feeling this time….. I will never forgive this travesty.


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  65. Cold-Hands says:

    Josephine Cashman has a petition before Parliament.

    We reject the unrepresentative and divisive Uluru Statement

    We call on the House to end race-based funding and to reject the unrepresentative and divisive Uluru Statement and any separate Indigenous Voice to Parliament.

    This one ends on the 1st September.


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  66. JC says:

    Timothy

    I have no idea as I don’t look at miners. They don’t interest me much. In my opinion BHP is doing well because of the tailings accidents in Brazil and the the lab virus fucking over the country (Brazil again) thereby causing a supply shock over the past couple of years.

    Ronery would have a much better idea as he supposedly owns around 450,000 shares in BHP. You could ask him as he’s an expert in these things.


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  67. mh says:

    Breaking911
    @Breaking911
    REPORTER: “So there’s no US actions being taken to prevent equipment from falling into the hands of the Taliban by destroying it or anything else?”

    MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: “I don’t have the answer to that question.”


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  68. Carpe Jugulum says:

    Layloma Hafizi: Embassy ‘abandoned’ mother in Kabul
    ******************************************************
    She just happened to fly to shitholistan a month previously, for a funeral for a collapsing country, which doesn’t pass the sniff test.

    It just so happens her mother is also in a wheelchair, (what, not a lesbian amputee dance teacher?)

    I am not buying this shit for a nanosecond


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  69. JC says:

    Timothy

    Supply shocks don’t last in the commodity space as higher prices (in iron ore) are a signal to the market to produce more.

    My concern for BHP going forward is that the higher dividend payouts – particularly in the commodity sphere – is that the firm doesn’t see an interesting investment horizon, which isn’t a good sign.

    We’ll see.


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  70. Speedbox says:

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
    August 17, 2021 at 8:13 pm

    A physics student at Loughborough University who said he had no regrets about flying to Afghanistan four days ago for a holiday claimed that his phone calls and emails to the embassy had been ignored. Miles Routledge, 21, from Birmingham, had seen videos promoting the country as a tourist destination……..

    Bullshit. I don’t know what his game is but that is utter bullshit.


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  71. candy says:

    Biden’s handling of the withdrawal is a humanitarian disaster. He’s had seven to eight months to plan it and seems to have just thought it about two weeks ago.

    In a normal USA he would be impeached.


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  72. jo says:

    Rex I’m puzzled, why do you make more sense than graeme.


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  73. Eyrie says:

    The Taliban are light infantry without significant anti air capability. A-29’s and AC-208’s are adequate. Too bad, too late.
    Pity they didn’t have guys like the Hmong pilots in Laos.
    http://www.ahcw.org/t-28.html
    Better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hrrk9g-0Bk


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  74. Rex Anger says:

    Rex I’m puzzled, why do you make more sense than graeme.

    Because Jo, I am the Babylon Bee to Graeme’s CNN…


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  75. Speedbox says:

    Eyrie says:
    August 17, 2021 at 8:37 pm
    The Taliban are light infantry without significant anti air capability.

    Not sure the Russians would agree.

    (although in fairness, the Mujahedeen were being supplied anti-aircraft weapons by the US).


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  76. Carpe Jugulum says:

    Speedbox…….

    Miles Routledge, 21, from Birmingham, had seen videos promoting the country as a tourist destination
    **********************************************************************

    Allow me to rephrase;

    Miles, a wanna be media whore in search of clickbait and ‘likes’ on social media went to an unstable third world shithole on the verge of collapse.

    Positioning himself close to the embassy he assured himself an exit strategy from said shithole and proceeded to milk it in pursuit of his chosen career as above mentioned media whore.

    *note* not to be confused with whore of socialism.


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  77. Eyrie says:

    Yeah, the Muj were given Stingers by the US. Do the Taliban have any MANPADS?


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  78. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    132andBush says:
    August 17, 2021 at 8:12 pm

    Bush, sounds about right. Not that I’m a pub goer, but if the local was like this I think I’d go.


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  79. Speedbox says:

    Carpe Jugulum says:
    August 17, 2021 at 8:41 pm

    Ok, that makes more sense.

    Ta.


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  80. jo says:

    Every arsehole that demands vaccinations should have the high speed lead poisoning vaccination.


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  81. rickw says:

    REPORTER: “So there’s no US actions being taken to prevent equipment from falling into the hands of the Taliban by destroying it or anything else?”

    MAJOR GENERAL HANK TAYLOR: “I don’t have the answer to that question”

    Well can you please get me someone that fucking does.


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  82. Carpe Jugulum says:

    Is there a Nano-Wriggler skeptic in the house. If so what is the skeptism based on?
    *****************************************************************************

    It’s simple bird, Nano = one billionth (10−9) part of.

    If you can see something that small (which you claimed) you have fvking superman vision on steroids you deluded mouth breathing cretin.

    Stop stinking the place up

    FOAD hippy.


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  83. Speedbox says:

    Eyrie says:
    August 17, 2021 at 8:42 pm

    Yeah, from Iran, although I understand that supply was inconsistent. Those pesky Pakistanis were also supplying as well.


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  84. rickw says:

    (although in fairness, the Mujahedeen were being supplied anti-aircraft weapons by the US).

    That’s the key. The Mujahideen were getting a fair flogging at the hands of the USSR, hence the hotly debated move by the USA to provide them with Stinger surface to air missiles.


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  85. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    Ruprecht says:
    August 17, 2021 at 8:11 pm

    That sentiment always gets me – “oh, looky here, a cute snake…”
    h/t The Donald.


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  86. johanna says:

    Carpe and Speedy – TheirABC is running all these stories about Afghan/Australians now stranded there. Every one of them was ‘visiting a sick relative’ or similar.

    Yeah, right.


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  87. cohenite says:

    Get that through your thick bigoted head.

    Fuck off bird; you really are getting tedious.

    Did you catch that you fat little turd.


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  88. Speedbox says:

    rickw says:
    August 17, 2021 at 8:51 pm

    The Russians were absolutely brutal with their usage of air power. Didn’t give a shit and bombed/strafed everything that moved and a lot of stuff that didn’t (just to be sure).

    The Stingers made a big difference to the offensive.

    There’s actually a movie about it: Charlie Wilson’s War. Ok, its a Hollywood movie but the theme is accurate.


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  89. cohenite says:

    I really like Dan Bongino but like even the most cynical and informed conservatives he still defaults to the system. Here he is calling for the zombie’s resignation when he must know biden and his fellow traitors own the system:

    https://rumble.com/vl8n5w-ep.-1585-biden-must-resign-now-the-dan-bongino-show.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The+Dan+Bongino+Show&ep=2

    Still the best of the lot.

    At the risk of repeating myself, fuck off bird.


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  90. candy says:

    Ms Berejiklian said today in a few weeks she would be starting privileges for the vaccinated, which really means restrictions for the non-vaccinated.

    I’m guessing she means going to movies, restaurants, events, travel will be out of bounds for the non-vaxxed.

    I think she is the first premier to actually say publicly that is what is planned.


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  91. rickw says:

    ANA outnumbered the Talibs by 4:1 and had superior weaponry. What the hell makes you think that air-support was the critical factor?

    How much air-support do the Talibs have?

    The ANA are not keen on killing fellow jihadists. Hence the importance of remote killing them via air support. The Taliban had to come up a wide valley from Bahgram to Kabul. Someone in a Cessna 172 with a box of hand grenades could have caused them quite a bit of bother.

    (I hitched a ride up this road with some Afghan contractors, if I can be bothered I’ll dig out the photos)


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  92. Carpe Jugulum says:

    nd can anyone explain to Carpe what a stupid Kunt he is being? Its a technology we are talking about Carpe you dumb twat. Its not a measurement
    ***********************************************************

    Dear Bird, that’s not what you claimed, i know it may be hard to reconcile in the fog that is your thought process.

    But Dear Bird, do try to be consistent, the voices are not being truthful to you


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  93. mh says:

    Faith in Morrison, Berejiklian ‘falls off a cliff’ as delta runs riot

    Faith in the ability of government to handle the COVID-19 outbreak has deteriorated sharply, with the Morrison government as well as the NSW and Queensland state governments falling fastest.

    At the same time, the proportion of voters who felt Australia was handling the pandemic better than the rest of the world – a frequent boast during the first year of the pandemic – plunged from 79 per cent in February to 57 per cent in July…

    NSW has slumped from 65 per cent to 49 per cent, Queensland has fallen from 65 per cent to 47 per cent, while Victoria, which was first ravaged by the virus last year, is at 50 per cent, which is statistically unchanged from the 49 per cent in February.

    https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/faith-in-morrison-berejiklian-falls-off-a-cliff-as-delta-runs-riot-20210816-p58j12


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  94. rickw says:

    ‘General Austin Scott Miller, commander of US and Nato troops in Afghanistan, said he was shocked by how quickly the Afghan National Army had surrendered to the Taliban.’

    FMD, had he ever seen them trying to do star jumps?


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  95. rickw says:

    Anyone know why Vladimir Zelenko’s website is down? 503 error.


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  96. Crossie says:

    So now we need passports to travel interstate? In that case I’ll wait and travel overseas. These states are going to lose out on tourism.

    McGowan and Palacechook have just dissolved Australia.


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