Open Thread – Tuesday 17 August 2021

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  1. srr says:

    The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #198

    https://www.lotuseaters.com/the-podcast-of-the-lotus-eaters-198-16-08-21

    Published 16th Aug
    Callum and Jon discuss the fall of Afghanistan, Lawrence of Kabul, and the woke imperialist response to the events.


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  2. H B Bear says:

    Someone tell bird to fuck off.

    Why waste your time? He’s convinced of his genius despite the mounting contrary evidence. I’m too busy with nano wrigglers.


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  3. Top Ender says:

    PROSECUTORS in the murder trial of NT Police officer Zach Rolfe will apply for proceedings to be stayed pending an appeal to the High Court of Australia.

    Rolfe has pleaded not guilty to murdering 19-year-old Kumanjayi Walker in a police shooting in Yuendumu in 2019.

    The full bench of the NT Supreme Court last week ruled an immunity provision in the Police Administration Act could be put to the jury in the trial now due to start next Monday.

    But late on Tuesday it was announced the Crown would apply to the High Court for special leave to appeal the Full Court’s ruling.

    Section 148B of the act excuses police officers from criminal responsibility for acts done “in good faith” during the performance of their duties.

    Crown prosecutor Philip Strickland SC had argued that if Rolfe was acting in defence of himself or a colleague, he was no longer exercising the police power of arrest.

    But in their joint decision, Justices Stephen Southwood and Dean Mildren ruled there was nothing in the act “to prevent a police officer from exercising multiple powers and performing multiple functions during the course of a single incident”.

    “The Crown’s submissions overlook the fact that at the relevant time the defendant may have been exercising his power of arrest and simultaneously performing his functions of preventing an offence and protecting the life of Constable (Adam) Eberl,” they wrote.

    “It may be that when he fired the second and third shots the defendant was intending to both arrest the deceased and defend Constable Eberl.

    “It would be open to the defendant, if he gives evidence, to state as much.”

    Mr Strickland is set to make the stay application after the NT’s current three day lockdown is due to end on Thursday afternoon.


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  4. Roger says:

    “stay-at-home orders were “consistent with the maintenance of constitutional government”, “rationally connected” to the public health purpose and alternatives were not equally effective, he said”

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    Ask the Swedes about alternatives, you dimwits.


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  5. Fat Tony says:

    struth says:
    August 17, 2021 at 6:12 pm
    “Truckies do not have to be vaccinated.”

    Didn’t Pony Girl announce yesterday that, from this Friday, all truck drivers coming into Qld had to be vaccinated?


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  6. H B Bear says:

    Truckies do not have to be vaccinated.

    I’ve got my Waylon Jennings cassette on in the background as a prophylactic. Seems to be working.


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  7. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    ikamatua says:
    August 17, 2021 at 3:41 pm

    Arky, spot on. We, in the West, are in the grip of the most rancid, immoral main-chancers anyone ever could imagine. They care for no-one but themselves.


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  8. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    I see the polls have gone well south, in fact further south than Antarctica, for the NSW and Federal Govts.

    Will we see a change of tack now?


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  9. egg_ says:

    Truckies do not have to be vaccinated.

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    State ‘Elf Depts seem to be using “less than 15 days stay” and “transiting” Interstate lockdown suburbs as an out for “cross border travel” by “specialist workers” in “Essential Industries”.


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  10. cohenite says:

    Do it yourself.

    Fuck off you fat little turd.


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  11. JC says:

    Cronkite, stop swearing. Just try to be nice, you idiot.


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  12. egg_ says:

    “stay-at-home orders were “consistent with the maintenance of constitutional government”, “rationally connected” to the public health purpose and alternatives were not equally effective, he said”

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    Ask the Swedes about alternatives, you dimwits.

    …………………………………………………..

    I self-identify as a Swede.


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  13. Lizzie of Sydney says:

    “For this heroic act I was immediately decorated. Splat. Just above my right ear. Emperors of Rome had slaves in their chariots to warn them of pride. I have ungrateful currawongs.”

    My sympathies, Bruce. Our new beaut frameless windows in the terrace now called ‘the conservatory’ has not been a hit with the Currawongs. They roost on the top of the roof and tip their bums over and let go a squelchy one, all white, to muck up the windows. Mum Currawong, my little darling, of course stays serenely in the Jacaranda awaiting her feed. She is the only one I feed now that Spring is here in the garden.

    We spent three hours down in the lower garden today doing good works while some local double-vaxed electricians were working on a few switches and power points for us inside. We’ve used them a lot over the years. Vacating the premises, we were, as required, taking a little light refreshment as sustenance. It turned out to be quite a treat for we hadn’t been down there for weeks and everything was budding up a treat. We got busy trimming the olives and the pomeganite, putting white oil on the citrus tress, giving everything a thorough watering; and I collected two beautiful smooth lemons of plump dimensions and a yellow worthy of the Isle of Capri. A lovely day for a lockdown in Sydney’s beautiful sunshine. There are still good things to do.


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  14. egg_ says:

    Their immune system is already compromised by this most vital work. So after they get the kill shot tomorrow they will break down faster than other people who have gotten it. Their gig is a tougher and more vital gig than the others. And much harder to replace excepting a full commie takeover.

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    Frankenvaxxed chicken van men might take out a few more plod?


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  15. Makka says:

    This Osaka women makes me sick. Turning on the water works at merest hint of adversity or contra opinion. Spoiled little princess who really needs to just grow tf up. Her parents need to be thrown in jail for raising such a precious snowflake.


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  16. Indolent says:

    Truckies do not have to be vaccinated.
    *********************

    How about if they went on strike. Would that end this madness?


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  17. Speedbox says:

    Now I’m depressed and angry.

    For reasons that are not important I needed to go through some photos and videos of my family and I on holidays.

    Jeez we had some fun and the memories came flooding back. The kids and wife looked so happy and relaxed.

    God knows when we can have another holiday like those. And in fact, will we ever? Coming up towards two years of this vast stupidity. Two years of the kids missing out on happy family holiday memories. My oldest daughter turned 21 recently (no party of course) – how much longer will she want to come away with my wife and I and her siblings?

    I will never forgive this travesty.


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  18. johanna says:

    johanna says:
    August 17, 2021 at 6:51 pm

    The humiliation of the US in withdrawing from Afghanistan is extraordinary. Not that they did it, but how.

    Mark Steyn sums it up:

    ” We mentioned General Milley on ‘white rage’ at the top of the show. That’s not the most dispiriting remark by an American general in recent days. That award would have to go to the Nato commander supervising our exit from Afghanistan. From The Daily Mail:

    ‘General Austin Scott Miller, commander of US and Nato troops in Afghanistan, said he was shocked by how quickly the Afghan National Army had surrendered to the Taliban.’

    I don’t know whether he’s a three-star, four-star, 137-star general, but a guy who professes to be shocked by how quickly the Afghan National Army is surrendering to the Taliban has no business being a general at all…

    For twenty years American taxpayers have trained and paid an Afghan National Army that’s fallen apart in twenty minutes. Here they are surrendering to the Taliban. Don’t all throw down your weapons at once, lads…

    Over a thousand so-called Afghan National Army troops have fled into Tajikistan, so Tajikistan has sent 20,000 reservists to secure its southern border.

    We can’t secure our southern border because we’re too busy training Afghans to flee across Tajikistan’s southern border.”
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    https://www.steynonline.com/11598/the-scale-of-humiliation

    The images of people clinging on to planes leaving Kabul say it all. Devastating, after Joe Biden said that ‘this is not Saigon’ while helicopters lifted people out of the US embassy.

    I’m not an American, so don’t care about their national pride and image. But, as an Australian I do care that these fuckwits are supposed to help to defend us.

    Joe has gone on holidays while the US military and national pride are trashed.


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  19. Runnybum says:

    Pluckaduck is pushing hard for compulsory poison jabs.


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  20. Rockdoctor says:

    BBS, I am suspecting the same from word of mouth. Scomo for being gutless and Gladys for being all over the shop. A couple of left leaning pollsters I found confirmed the trend but the questions asked were very loaded towards the narrative.

    Weathers already turning, another couple of weeks and it will be harder to keep the same trick. Blossoms will be in full bloom, days longer and warmer. People will notice that.

    A piece of pure conjecture on my part is that Scomo’s recent fall out with Gladys is more to frustration at the polls with a razor thin margin. Being down to nearly 1 year before the election has to be held.

    I am not going to make a definitive call. Some of the more draconian measures being justified with the thinnest of respectability and the public has unquestioningly accepted it…


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  21. cohenite says:

    FMD, this country is gutted, frizzled and boned:

    NSW environment minister urges voters worried about climate crisis to ‘send a message’ at ballot box

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/17/nsw-environment-minister-urges-voters-worried-about-climate-crisis-to-send-a-message-at-ballot-box

    Matt kean; look at the bastard.


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  22. H B Bear says:

    The nano wrigglers getting to you Birdie? See if the Waylon Jennings works on them too. See if you can get a CD from the library.


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  23. cohenite says:

    Cronkite, stop swearing. Just try to be nice, you idiot.

    Alright, you deal with him.


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  24. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    God knows when we can have another holiday like those. And in fact, will we ever?
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    That’s a question I’m asking myself, these days. There was a bucket list.


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  25. Roger says:

    God knows when we can have another holiday like those. And in fact, will we ever?

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    Good news!

    An expert perfesser today said that given the efficacy – or lack thereof – of the current vaccines we can expect waves of outbreaks and lockdowns for the next ten years.

    Whether society as we know it can survive that long is another matter entirely.


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  26. JC says:

    Hands up anyone who thinks the CCP believes the US, under president Dementia, will not lift a finger to assist Taiwan.

    Things could really ugly really soon.


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  27. JC says:

    cohenite says:
    August 17, 2021 at 7:05 pm

    Cronkite, stop swearing. Just try to be nice, you idiot.

    Alright, you deal with him.

    Fair enough. Don’t stop swearing at him then.


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  28. ikamatua says:

    I want every one of these bums voted out at the next election.
    Both state and federal.
    All of them.
    The whole sodding lot.
    I don’t care if it puts Labor in federally, as long as it also kicks out Danno.
    Faulty is right this once.
    Put every last stinking one of these sitting frauds last.
    Not in any expectation tht the replacements will be any better, but because I don’t want to see there f*cking faces anymore.


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  29. ikamatua says:

    For our sitting members, both state and federal:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3xU0fnjUcg


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  30. egg_ says:

    An expert perfesser today said that given the efficacy – or lack thereof – of the current vaccines we can expect waves of outbreaks and lockdowns for the next ten years.

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    Was he even bothering to conceal his schadenboner?

    /Nerd’s delight


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  31. Roger says:

    ‘General Austin Scott Miller, commander of US and Nato troops in Afghanistan, said he was shocked by how quickly the Afghan National Army had surrendered to the Taliban.’

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    Before we condemn the ANA, someone ask him why the US provided them with no air support.


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  32. H B Bear says:

    Are you trying on a #gangoffour filibuster fucker?

    I do my best.


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  33. Roger says:

    Hands up anyone who thinks the CCP believes the US, under president Dementia, will not lift a finger to assist Taiwan.

    Things could really ugly really soon.

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    Hot off the press:

    BEIJING/TAIPEI, Aug 17 (Reuters) – China carried out assault drills near Taiwan on Tuesday with warships and fighter jets exercising off the southwest and southeast of the island, in what the country’s armed forces said was a response to “external interference” and “provocations”.


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  34. Zipster says:

    Oh poo I just woke up. Now I’ll never know what happened. Any idea?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lin-a2lTelg


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  35. johanna says:

    It is indeed frightening that it is seriously being suggested that we should give up our civil liberties because of a virus.

    Think about it. A virus is more important and powerful than many centuries of human thought and achievement.

    What madness is this?

    Of course, it’s not the virus itself, but those who have battened themselves on to it for their own ends.


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  36. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Before we condemn the ANA, someone ask him why the US provided them with no air support.
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    Weren’t the Yanks laying on B-52 and “Specter” gunship strikes?


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  37. Zipster says:

    Hands up anyone who thinks the CCP believes the US, under president Dementia, will not lift a finger to assist Taiwan.

    As POTUS the price went up from 1billion to 10 billion


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  38. Mater says:

    An expert perfesser today said that given the efficacy – or lack thereof – of the current vaccines we can expect waves of outbreaks and lockdowns for the next ten years.

    I don’t doubt it at all.

    As I reported in my last Musing, Swine Flu (A(H1N1)pdm09) has been killing Australians since the 2009 pandemic.

    Apparently the cure for A(H1N1)pdm09 is Covid-19. In an obvious demarcation dispute, Covid has ostensibly killed it off, and every other flu variety, off in the great flu extinction event of July 2020.


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  39. JC says:

    Zip

    Dementia is now regarded as very weak. If want to go there wouldn’t be a better time.


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  40. Tintarella di Luna says:

    Hands up anyone who thinks the CCP believes the US, under president Dementia, will not lift a finger to assist Taiwan.

    Mine’s up


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  41. Dot says:

    *An expert perfesser today said that given the efficacy – or lack thereof – of the current vaccines we can expect waves of outbreaks and lockdowns for the next ten years.*

    The fuck outta here poindexter.


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  42. cohenite says:

    The DHS lists as its designated main terrorist threats:

    People who won’t wear masks
    People who think Trump won the election.

    As I said earlier the leader of the talifucks vows for their victory in afghanishit to go global.

    Next major muzzie terrorist attack on the West:

    1 month
    2 months
    3 months


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  43. incoherent rambler says:

    because I don’t want to see there f*cking faces anymore.
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    Dan’s face to the tune of the Angels’ song

    ” I nevah wanna see your face again ”

    I think I have an ad campaign.


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  44. Makka says:

    As I reported in my last Musing, Swine Flu (A(H1N1)pdm09) has been killing Australians since the 2009 pandemic.

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    So have doctors. These are the experts who are controlling our lives and removing our freedoms. Many times more Australians die from doctor error than covid. How many of them are locked up?

    “In Australia medical error results in as many as 18 000 unnecessary deaths, and more than 50 000 patients become disabled each year. ”

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1117772/
    Epidemiology of medical error


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  45. Roger says:

    Weren’t the Yanks laying on B-52 and “Specter” gunship strikes?

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    Not rcently that I know of.

    Some time ago – in July – the US announced it would only target al Qaeda by air (and I don’t think they’ve done even that).

    If only they’d adopted that policy in 2001.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/us-signals-no-change-in-airstrikes-as-afghan-taliban-advance-joe-biden-john-kirby-afghanistan-frank-mckenzie-mark-milley-b1899775.html


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  46. calli says:

    Next major muzzie terrorist attack on the West:

    Twenty-four days.


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  47. Speedbox says:

    Roger says:
    August 17, 2021 at 7:06 pm

    Thanks Roger, that’s cheered me up. /sarc


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  48. Makka says:

    A more up to date analysis of deaths by doctor in Australia, Sept 2020;

    “The Medical Journal of Australia (MJA) perspective was penned by Professor Ian Scott, Director of Internal Medicine and Clinical Epidemiology at Princess Alexandra Hospital, and Associate Professor Carmel Crock, Emergency Department Director at the Royal Victorian Eye and Ear Hospital.

    They claim an estimated 140,000 cases of diagnostic error occur in Australia each year. Of those cases, 21,000 are of serious harm, and result in 2000–4000 deaths.”

    Covid deaths this year ~50


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  49. johanna says:

    Steve Trickler, one for you.

    No Static at All/FM (Steely Dan, 4.30)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV3zWSawJiw

    For young people, for a very long time radio was AM and crappy – dropouts, and static, being bzzzz and screechy noises. When FM came out in the 80s all that went away.

    They gave Bob Dylan an award for his lyrics. In my opinion, Becker (RIP) and Fagan
    are more than worthy.

    Pages and pages of stylish and incisive lyrics, literate too, well above ‘hey nigga fuck da copz.’


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  50. Roger says:

    Thanks Roger, that’s cheered me up. /sarc

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    Yeah, sorry mate.

    On the upside, the experts are usually proven wrong.

    And I don’t think there’s any way the public will cop ten years of rolling lockdowns.

    Even Karl Stefanovic is getting antsy on morning TV, or so I’m advised.


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  51. Boambee John says:

    JC says:
    August 17, 2021 at 7:11 pm
    Hands up anyone who thinks the CCP believes the US, under president Dementia, will not lift a finger to assist Taiwan.

    Things could really ugly really soon.

    Right about now, several carefully machined pieces of fissile material are being inserted into pre-prepared bomb casings somewhere in Taiwan, possibly also in Japan and South Korea.


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  52. Ruprecht says:

    A fair few reports in the media of ‘Aussies’ stranded in Afghanistan. How