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Current muslim terrorism figures; I wonder whether the talifucks will initiate an uptick:
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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I’m not a law obeyer.
Hehe
straya
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” The firm may not be woke at all, but just afraid that fossil fuels will eventually be outlawed.”
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Oil is used for a lot more than just fuel. We will always need oil.
Unless we start harpooning female Labor PMs for the blubber reserves stored in their arses, oil wells will exist forever.
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Nobody is allowed to win wars anymore.
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I suspect the Taliban would beg to differ.
And on an altogether grander scale I don’t think Xi would nod sagely either.
There are people who don’t care to play by our rules.
Somewhere between the end of WWII and Vietnam we forgot this, not least due to Soviet infliltration and manipulation of our student and peace movements and the prog-left march through the universities and professions.
I note the US State Department is full of buttoned down Ivy League types who imagine the Taliban are open to appeals to “inclusivity”. They are fools.
Stick a fork in the West; it’s done.
The only worthwhile task is preserving what we can of its heritage, like the Celtic monks did during the Dark Ages.
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Love this song. Hit the top of the charts too and stayed there for weeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEaKX9YYHiQ
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“In the 1990s, policymakers finally stood up to the industry and acted. Congress held hearings and state attorneys general sued the tobacco companies. In 1998, almost every state in the U.S. came together to approve the largest civil settlement in U.S. history, the Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement (MSA). This court settlement between 46 states and the District of Columbia and the major tobacco companies forced them to end some of their more egregious marketing practices and provided for annual payments to the states for some of the medical costs of caring for the 16 million Americans who have smoking-caused illnesses. The settlement was huge: $206 billion over the first 25 years and the payments continue indefinitely into the future.”
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If you had divested yourself of tobacco in 1998, reading the “writing on the wall” for big tobacco, you would have f*cked yourself.
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35% of oil is used for shit other than transport fuels.
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Love it JC.
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Life’s about to get hard for the Clean.
Strap up, bastards.
No surrender
I’m but a simple working man. They’ll never break me.
Bring it, motherfucker.
I’m going on offence.
What Would the Desert Rats Do?
Hehe, fight on with a grin.
Straya!!!
See you in Heaven, mates
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I’ll take December 27 please. I think it would be hugely ironic as the day Weather Underground was started
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Interested in the Biden Lotto but it is really tough to pick a date. Who is going to call for Xiden to step down? What are the alternatives?
Khamala? unpopular.
Peloxi? same as above.
‘You Will Not Pin This Sh*t on Me!’ Kamala Harris Refused to Face American People as Afghanistan Collapsed
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Prisoner.
On the Inside – Lynne Hamilton (Theme from ‘Prisoner Cell Block H’)
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Following up from Carpe’s book on when they scrape biden out of office I reckon another one would be when the next big muslim terrorist attack occurs on Western soil.
Also when the chunks have a serious shot at Taiwan and/or set up another base in Australian owned Antarctica.
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Muddy says at 6:51 pm:
That is so … so … insightful! 😁😂🤣
I doubt any of the tough fella drongos present are capable of unpacking this systemic, structural, unconscious, incomprehensible metric for me – for the moment I must remain just like poster “Muddy”, with absolutely no clue what he is mumbling about!
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“who don’t care to play by our rules.”
Rules are for losers.
That’s old thinking.
Embrace MadMax
The revolution is gonna be messy.
Very messy.
Fight to win or surrender like sheep.
Choose wisely, no backsies.
Australia is ded
Straya beckons, for those willing to step to.
😎🤘
It starts here.
Organise your cell.
Freedom of action, as long as it brings down the zeitgeist.
It all has to burn.
Time for change.
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Mick, go re-oil your fkn boat or whatever has been faggots do.
You’ll not be spared.
Go to the lifesaving club for a Parma or the latest GC cultural event, whatever TF counts up there and leave the fighting to others.
We won’t forget, collaborator.
See you at the gallows, mate 👊👊👍👍
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JC – They’re woke in the worst way. Kloppers, who was vege before it was a thing, was full on already well before this last decade of lurid climate pron. None of which has actually occurred, nor is even evident on the real world data. But good luck trying to tell them that in between their Davis and Bilderberg confabs.
I own no BHP shares btw.
By contrast Glencore doesn’t seem as woke although they’ve had similar pressure.
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I’m warming to the Talibs.
They’re ZFG.
And they never surrender.
Go, you good things!
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Oil is used for a lot more than just fuel. We will always need oil.
Unless we start harpooning female Labor PMs for the blubber reserves stored in their arses, oil wells will exist forever.
Dude, if the oil is used for other purposes other than fuel, then it’s technically not a fossil fuel, right? Get it?
The point is they could ban it for that specific use. Let me correct that comment… it’s not that they could ban it. They will try very hard to do so.
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Davos not Davis. Grr.
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there’s nothing more graceful than a goose in flight
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Has anyone ever seen MickGC& Gen.Mark Milley in the same room together?
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By contrast Glencore doesn’t seem as woke although they’ve had similar pressure.
Brucie, Glazenberg has caught the green bug too recently.
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“then it’s technically not a fossil fuel, right?”
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So what?
The number of assets producing it are still making money and competition is reduced by lack of investment in new assets and exploration.
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If you flip his initials and add a bit Mark Milley becomes Wank Willey.
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Coal is supposedly the dirtiest of the dirty.
And it’s at astronomical prices now.
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JC – They’re woke in the worst way. Kloppers, who was vege before it was a thing, was full on already well before this last decade of lurid climate pron. None of which has actually occurred, nor is even evident on the real world data. But good luck trying to tell them that in between their Davis and Bilderberg confabs.
Brucie, if they had sold the coal assets during his time, the firm would be better off as coal assets had a higher valuation.
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“Brucie, Glazenberg has caught the green bug too recently.”
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Pity there’s no vaccination for that bug.
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Mick Gold Coast QLD says:
August 18, 2021 at 7:30 pm
I’m sure everyone appreciates your clarification and elucidation of the points I was struggling to make, Mick. I know I certainly do. I admire your combination of humility and wisdom.
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“The Biden Adventure”
We’re past the heavily listing stage, we’re now capsized.
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Haha.
Glencore buys 100pc of Australia’s Rolleston coal mine (17 Aug)
With Swiss persons you should always watch what the hands are doing.
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Biden Lotto
Carpe 24 Sept
Calli 10 Sept
Delta A 1 Oct
aReader 27 Dec
ZK2A 30 Oct
BBS 25 Nov
Custard 18 Sept
Joanna 7 Oct
Rosie 19 Sept 22
Zippy 1 June 22
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Carpe Jugulum says:
August 18, 2021 at 7:50 pm
Carpe – put me down for 11th September please
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Bruce of Newcastle says at 7:43 pm:
Thanks a million Bruce of Newcastle. I had the misapprehension that you were more discerning with your preferred company.
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Mick, you might’ve gathered I don’t have much time for Gen. Milley.
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And no one lower in the order of succession than the VP has ever replaced a President.
The main worry will be if it does go beyond VP and you get Pelosi.
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Carpe,
December 1 please.
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Brucie
Glazenberg is sth African and Australian citizen. He’s not a Swiss native.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=81d3AAJ9Dag
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Old bloke says:
August 18, 2021 at 4:08 pm
OB, tonight on Credlin Mark Latham said that the legislation surrounding workers’ rights is extensive and should provide enough assistance against employer moves to introduce mandatory vaccination. The completion of the privacy forms covering our immunisation status is a view to that – a way to stymie the other half’s employer if any pressure is applied. Latham said he has a post up on his FB page that details all the legislation that protects workers, which I’ve asked if someone with a page could put up.
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Does anyone stop and think of the children?
They are not playthings to be used by sqwertys trying to prove they are a “family”.
Pete Buttigieg And Husband Chasten Announce They Are Now Parents
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Bruce
Ha. Harry Lime would agree.
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Mick Gold Coast QLD always reminds me of ‘Grumpy Grandpa’.
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Transhumanism- just say NO
Stay Clean
#resist
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Fox News Prime has a little montage of the Australian idiots like Chant – don’t talk to your friends -, the hunchback – you can’t lift your mask to drink a beer outside – as examples, along with horseface from NZ, as the worst examples of chunk virus hysteria in the world currently.
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Carpe, November 1th pls
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Biden Lotto
Carpe 24 Sept
Calli 10 Sept
Delta A 1 Oct
aReader 27 Dec
ZK2A 30 Oct
BBS 25 Nov
Custard 18 Sept
Joanna 7 Oct
Rosie 19 Sept 22
Zippy 1 June 22
Rex Anger 6 June 22
Fat Tony 11 Sept
Rick W 1 bDec
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JC, give me a break please? I haven’t just emerged from 50 years in an nuclear fallout shelter. Kloppers was South African too, but that doesn’t make BHP South African. Glencore is well known in the business for keeping their cards close to their chests. And they’ve been domiciled in the land of bankers and cow bells for roughly forever.
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Has MickGC ever posted anything but Gold Coast wisdom?
Lol
Cultural giants up there.
Skasey writ small.
See you in Majorca, mofos!
Gay white shoes are compulsory.
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24/12/2021 for me.
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” ‘Grumpy Grandpa’.”
Yeah, mal riders.
Never get barrelled, always upset.
Only ones worse are kneeboarders.
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TailgunneR says:
August 18, 2021 at 8:16 pm
“Has MickGC ever posted anything but Gold Coast wisdom?”
Nah – he’s a cranky old shit – probably married to Rosie Notaclue
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You’re all as demented as Biden.
He has a machine behind him.
If he is out of office the machine stops taking in money.
They won’t let him leave.
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Brucie
You implied Glazenberg is Swiss . He’s not.
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She is extraordinary. Stunning lady.
Khatia Buniatishvili plays Franz Liszt’s Liebestraum No. 3 | Verbier Festival 2011
Into a zone she goes.
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Biden Lotto
Carpe 24 Sept
Calli 10 Sept
Delta A 1 Oct
aReader 27 Dec
ZK2A 30 Oct
BBS 25 Nov
Custard 18 Sept
Joanna 7 Oct
Rosie 19 Sept 22
Zippy 1 June 22
Rex Anger 6 June 22
Fat Tony 11 Sept
Rick W 1 Dec
Rohan 1 Nov
Cohenite 24 Dec
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I’m going long on Biden lotto.
He’s too useful a puppet for his handlers to remove their hands from up his arse.
Even if they have to do a “Weekend at Bernies” with a dead or decayed President.
Carpe, please put me down for Monday January 20th, 2025.
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I suggest you learn to read, JC, rather than looking at currency movements all day. I know who Mr Glasenberg is and have done for a long time. I even know who Marc Rich is without looking him up on Wikipedia. I might even have worked in that industry occasionally, like three decades-ish. Sheesh.
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Rubbish.
I used to paddle a goat boat. Much more infuriating for the grommets than mals. At least mals could turn on a wave. Slowly.
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BBS on last nights question, not heading back north till the borders reopen. Have some loose ends to tie up here first. Queensland has definitely rebounded job & pay wise. Different players apart from BHP around now. Glencore has snapped up most of Rio’s old pickings and we now have Pembroke who will make a killing off Peabodies ejected assets. Also commodity prices spikes mean some of the lower quality stuff is back in play.
As for the privacy concerns towards your Vaccination register, your concerns are valid. Up till a few months ago you could object using the Privacy Act and supporting regulations as they were pretty well much water tight when it came to the storage of medical records. I posted on the old Cat when I became aware I couldn’t opt out of the vaccine register like I did with my e-health, I could only stop others accessing. The Fed’s quietly passed amendments to the act then a short time later changed the regulations to allow the Privacy Commissioner wider scope what to allow without your consent. As I said at the time, people my age likely to be wary but youngsters living in Social Media with no privacy won’t care at all. I’ll dig again but won’t be till the weekend.
Wow first flight out of Kabul had 27 on a Hercules out of a now 400 expats/contractors alleged to be there. Wikipedia tells me a C130J which the RAAF use can carry 92 passengers. Guess the Australian effort is a disjointed as the rest.
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Biden Lotto
Carpe 24 Sept
Calli 10 Sept
Delta A 1 Oct
aReader 27 Dec
ZK2A 30 Oct
BBS 25 Nov
Custard 18 Sept
Joanna 7 Oct
Rosie 19 Sept 22
Zippy 1 June 22
Rex Anger 6 June 22
Fat Tony 11 Sept
Rick W 1 Dec
Rohan 1 Nov
Cohenite 24 Dec
Leigh Lowe 4 July 24
I will check again tomorrow, if i miss anyone please remind me in the morning or email me direct (adam will have it, it’s ok)
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Brucie
My information on Glencore is incomplete. Obviously, Glazenberg is talking shit because the purchase of the coal mine you told us about displays his hidden preference.
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Carpe
I’m going to go long on this for lots of reasons. My date is 24/01/23.
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rickw says:
August 18, 2021 at 6:24 pm
Big relief for someone at work today. They thought they were the only unvaxed, with mounting pressure from the company to get vaxed. Then they found me and my largely unvaxed operation.
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Robert Barnes has a lot of info for Americans re mandatory vax. I expect a lot of that advice would apply here also.
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Brucie
What are you getting upset about? I don’t quite get it. Calm down.
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Talking to cuxts on here and getting ignored.
Get f*cked you rude pricks.
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I suggest you learn to read, JC, rather than looking at currency movements all day.
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Brain fog from the AstraZeneca double shot.
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What about “PoshCat” and “YobCat”?
Like I’ve already alluded to; The Club and the Pub.
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DAVOS in the CATACOMBS: Klaus Schwab’s Secret Vatican Connection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwjeumh21xE
Premiered 9 hours ago
TheRemnantVideo
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Disgusting:
Prime Minister Scott Morrison says health authorities are working on a plan to vaccinate Australian children, potentially at school.
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Rockdoctor says:
August 18, 2021 at 8:34 pm
RD, pleased to here that the forthcoming move will be worth it for you!
We see the privacy form stuff as just one facet to all this. As well, the other half will be asking for a copy of the company’s written policy on vaccination for ‘rona etc, if there are any noises that it will be made mandatory.
One of my earlier comments referred to Mark Latham on Credlin tonight and reference to this stuff on his FB page. If you are on FB could you have a look at it and perhaps cut and past for here? He said there’s lots of legislation that will make it hard for any employer etc to pressure its workforce on this, fingers crossed.
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“mh says:
August 18, 2021 at 8:49 pm
Disgusting:
Prime Minister Scott Morrison says health authorities are working on a plan to vaccinate Australian children, potentially at school.
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It’s immoral to put the risks of dealing with the covid onto our children in a quixotic attempt to make these leaky, useless vaccines achieve herd immunity. Completely sick and immoral.
Damn you to hell Morrison. What the F*CK do you think you’re playing at?
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Chubster Tony, Flying Pigs, that Tailgunner child – you all have a problem with “age” and “older people”. You hold it out as a disgusting, disgraceful place to be.
That amuses me. You are headed in that direction, every one of you – you are getting older, it is inevitable.
Between now and then do you routinely belt your parents for being old? Regularly smack ’em over the head as you walk past, for not being like you? Snarl at them for not feeding and educating you, deny them food, a helping hand, a little of your precious time?
You present yourself proudly as miserable characters, big on mouthy hollow clichés, so tough (which you are not and you know it) but in reality midget “men” with nothing to be proud of, feeble. You will surely struggle as you get older because you spend very little time understanding that condition, and change generally.
You are strange little fellows, that’s a fact.
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Jeez,
Just in touch with a Melbourne based Polish friend.
The family escaped communist Poland in the early 80’s.
The parents are in utter despair after all they went through to escape communism to find themselves back under it’s cloak again.
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Tucker interviewing army veteran who explains his experience in afshitistan with green on blue attacks by trusted afshits who literally shot allied soldiers from the US and Australia in the back.
Yet, now the demorats in the US are pressuring the zombie to bring unfettered any and all afshit refugees into the US.
We’ll get the same here from the usual ratbags.
That terrorist attack will occur before biden’s corpse is dragged out.
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Feel good story. She’s a jet on the violin.
Emotional Family Reunion | Parents with Daughter Karolina Protsenko
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One
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Does anyone know anything about artificial grass? Quality? Any downside? Problems? Integrating with plants?
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Two
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Three
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kaysee,
I love that one!
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She’s carrying far too much bulk & her boozies are grotesquely oversized.
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Mick Gold Coast QLD says:
August 18, 2021 at 8:53 pm
Chubster Tony, Flying Pigs, that Tailgunner child – you all have a problem with “age” and “older people”. You hold it out as a disgusting, disgraceful place to be.”
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Listen – you sad old fuck – I’m 68 but I hope to God I never turn into a miserable old xunt like you.
Now just fuck off and crawl back into your safe space.
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Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:
August 18, 2021 at 9:07 pm
Not in my book.
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This is what Latham has put up:
Mark Latham’s Outsiders,/b>
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KNOW YOUR RIGHTS
A NSW ONE NATION GUIDE
TO THE RIGHTS OF CITIZENS IN RESISTING VACCINE PASSPORTS AND MANDATORY WORKPLACE VACCINATIONS
(Please see the Disclaimer at the end of this document)
Background
One of the most important principles of our society is that people are in control of their own bodies and their own health care.
Adults need to give informed consent to vaccinations, dealing with Covid or anything else. No government or employer can directly force a medical procedure like this upon its workers and consumers. Legally, consent cannot be valid in an environment of coercion and duress.
Unfortunately in the Covid era, governments are intoxicated with the power to lock people in their homes and control their lives. There has been a rise in authoritarianism across the political spectrum, especially with some politicians and media blowhards yelling at people to get vaccinated.
This campaign has been counter-productive. Australia is not an anti-vaxxer nation. Just look at our high rates of child immunisation. Many people legitimately want more information about the Covid vaccines before making up their minds. They are not anti-vaxxers but vax-laters.
So far (as at August 2021) AstraZeneca has led to seven deaths in Australia, plus over 100 blood clots episodes and 30,000 reports of adverse reactions (official TGA data). People need to talk to their doctor about this and get the best advice in their individual health circumstances.
The doctor-patient relationship in Australia used to be sacred. Now governments and the media are trying to get in the middle of it, hectoring people with health instructions that should only ever come from doctors. This has raised suspicions about the process and if anything, has made people more hesitant.
Realistically, there are few good reasons to trust government. Just look at the disaster of the Sydney lockdown (which started with an unregulated airport limo driver) and the mishandling of the national vaccination roll-out. If governments knew what they were doing, we wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place.
Because the lockdown has failed, there is a push inside the NSW Government to give people no choice but to be vaccinated. Overseas, this is known as a Vaccine Passport, meaning that people can’t work, shop, visit cafes and restaurants or lead any part of a normal life without showing their vaccine records to strangers.
In France, the introduction of Vaccine Passports has created huge protest marches and riots. The police are going through shops and cafes checking people’s papers. Patients have even been turned away from hospitals. The French people are asking: Didn’t we defeat the Nazis to avoid this kind of thing?
Already the NSW Government has introduced a Public Health Order making construction workers in Western Sydney show their vaccination papers just to go to work. The only other way they are allowed onto building sites is if they have had a negative Covid test or have a medical certificate pointing to reasons what they can’t be vaccinated (such as allergies, past bad reactions etc).
Workers, sole traders and subcontractors are having to choose between their jobs and Covid vaccinations.
This may only be the start. A number of businesspeople have called for the compulsory vaccination of all workers and customers in their industry – that is, to make us like France.
One would have thought Australia’s trade unions would be fighting against this loss of basic workers’ rights, that no one should lose control of their health choices, handing them over to bosses. We are at risk of going back to the master/servant relationship of serfdom, where workers either do what their employees say in their personal healthcare or lose their job.
But the unions are weak. The ACTU has said it is happy to hand this power to State Health Orders and live with the consequences.
Many people are confused and scared of what is happening to Australia with mandatory vaccination.
NSW One Nation has taken up this fight on behalf of the people of our State. We are opposed to Vaccine Passports. We are looking at ways of introducing legislation in the NSW upper house to limit the power of government to impose mandatory workplace vaccinations.
We have also produced this document to help people understand their rights.
There are ways of defending yourself against mandatory vaccinations. People have rights under existing laws and they should use them if this suits their personal health circumstances and choices.
If State Health Orders do not apply to a workplace, yet employers want to make Covid vaccinations mandatory, the following rules apply. There are clear limitations on what employers can do.
Please read this document carefully and know your rights:
Work Health and Safety (WHS)
Existing WHS laws, Federal and State, set out clear processes companies need to follow in protecting the safety of their workers. Workplace safety is an important legal obligation. This includes minimising the risks of diseases, including Covid.
It does not follow, however, that mandatory vaccinations are required in every workplace. Nor can workers’ rights be wiped by employers sacking unvaccinated workers on-the-spot. Businesses wanting to impose vaccinations need to slow down and follow established processes of research and consultation under the WHS laws.
They need to consult their staff, talk to the unions (in unionised workplaces) and undertake Covid risk-assessment studies to see what might be necessary. Workers have a right to insist on these processes.
The current advice from Safe Work Australia (which has uniform legislation in place with the six States) reads: “It is unlikely that a requirement for workers to be vaccinated will be reasonably practicable … There is currently insufficient evidence about the impact of Covid-19 vaccines on transmission of the virus which means that a worker could get Covid-19 even if they are vaccinated.”
Safe Work Australia has also said, “Most employers will not need to make vaccinations mandatory to comply with the model WHS laws”. They have emphasised the importance of physical distancing, hygiene and other measures in the workplace. Workplace risk assessments should also consider masks and PPE as an alternative to compulsory vaccinations.
The evidence over the past 18 months is crucial: In NSW, there have been no confirmed Covid transmissions outdoors or on NSW public transport. It would be surprising, therefore, if gardeners, landscapers, tradies, construction workers and also hospitality staff working outdoors (such as picking up glasses in a beer-garden), plus public transport workers, would be deemed appropriate for employer-imposed vaccinations.
A specific provision in the NSW Work Health Safety Act is also relevant. Section 84 states that, “A worker may cease to refuse to carry out work if the worker has a reasonable concern that to carry out the work would expose the worker to a serious risk to the worker’s health or safety, emanating from an immediate or imminent exposure to a hazard.”
It would be reasonable to regard a directive from an employer to get vaccinated as part of one’s work. Therefore, if the worker has a medical certificate stating that a Covid vaccination would pose a serious risk to the worker’s physical or mental health, this could be sufficient grounds for ignoring the directive. Safe Work NSW is available to assist employees with further advice.
Industrial Relations Laws
If a worker is sacked unlawfully or unreasonably for not being Covid vaccinated, they can take unfair dismissal action at the Commonwealth’s Fair Work Commission. To clarify the rules governing such cases, on 12 August 2021 the Fair Work Ombudsman (FWO) issued a statement of ‘Workplace Rights and Obligations’.
This is a crucial document that gives some hope for workers’ rights. It rules out an employer free-for-all, where bosses can sack their unvaccinated staff at the drop of a hat. As the statement says, “The coronavirus pandemic doesn’t automatically make it reasonable for employers to direct employees to be vaccinated against the virus.”
The FWO has done a good job in giving workers hope that if they are sacked, an unfair dismissal case may be viable. Here are the main provisions protecting workers:
1. There needs to be a legal basis for forced workplace vaccinations. Employers cannot simply pursue this practice without foundations in the law. This means either a State Public Health order; a specific Covid vaccination clause in an employment agreement; or “It would be lawful and reasonable for an employer to give their employees a direction to be vaccinated, which is assessed on a case-by-case basis”. Inevitably, some of these cases will be unfair dismissal claims at the Fair Work Commission.
2. “For a direction to be lawful it needs to comply with any employment contract, award or agreement, and any Commonwealth, State or Territory law that applies (for example, an anti-discrimination law).”
3. The reasonableness of an employer directive will be determined by a range of factors: the amount of face-to-face worker/customer contact; whether the business provides an essential service; whether Covid is prevalent in the local community; vaccine availability and medical exemptions for staff.
4. If there has been no Covid in the community for some time, an employer directive for worker vaccination is “less likely to be reasonable”. If Covid is spreading locally and the business needs to stay open during a lockdown period, a vaccination directive is “more likely to be reasonable”.
5. Generally, staff working from home would not be required to be vaccinated, whereas workers in the frontline of Covid control would be – such as health, aged care, quarantine and border control workers.
6. All awards and enterprise agreements have consultation clauses with workers, so there’s an expectation this will cover any attempt by employers to introduce mandatory vaccines. The views of Health and Safety Representatives must be taken into account.
7. “Vaccination isn’t mandatory for all employees and many workplaces won’t be able to require their employees to be vaccinated.” Some workers will have legitimate reasons not to be vaccinated, such as a medical reason.
8. If an employee refuses to be vaccinated, as a first step the employer should ask for their reasons. If the employee has a valid reason (such as a medical certificate), alternatives to vaccination should be explored, such as alternative work arrangements.
9. Whether an employer can take disciplinary action depends on the circumstances and the legality of such action, as set out in awards and other employment agreements. Importantly, “Employers don’t otherwise have the power to suspend employees without pay unless an enterprise or other registered agreement, award or employment contract allows them to. Employees have various protections against being dismissed or treated adversely in their employment. Employers should make sure that they follow a fair process and have a valid reason for termination, or they may breach unfair dismissal or adverse action laws under the Fair Work Act.”
Anti-Discrimination Laws
Commonwealth and State anti-discrimination laws provide important protections for certain people from unfair treatment in the workplace. For instance, if a pregnant woman said she did not want the vaccination for valid medical reasons, an employer would most likely be in breach of these laws if he sacked her.
Another key protection relates to disability. This is broadly defined in discrimination law. For instance, Section 49A(d) of the NSW Act covers a “disability that a person will have in the future”. Therefore, if a worker has a medical certificate stating that the prospect of a Covid vaccination gives them chronic anxiety and depression, it would be unlawful for an employer to take disciplinary action against that employee (given the nature of their future disability).
Workers discriminated against in this fashion should lodge complaints with Anti-Discrimination NSW (which is a cost-free jurisdiction).
Privacy Laws
Vaccination records are highly sensitive private health information. They are protected under the Commonwealth’s 1988 Privacy Act. Thankfully, the Federal Government has decided not to share any vaccination information with NSW Minister Victor Dominello, thwarting his plan for a Vaccine Passport displayed on the Service NSW app.
The Office of the Australian Information Commissioner has issued instructions about the privacy rights of workers with regard to their vaccination records. She has said that employers can only collect this information in “very limited circumstances”.
Employees can say No to an employer wanting to permanently record the information, such as on a computer database. No worker should be threatened with the sack for failing to hand over his or her records.
In wanting to examine a vaccination record, employers must advise their staff as to how the information will be handled and what privacy safeguards apply. The Commissioner says that, “An employee’s vaccination status is considered sensitive health information under the Privacy Act and higher privacy protections apply.”
Consumer Protection
The ex-Turnbull MP and wealthy pub baron Craig Laundy has said that all workers and customers will need to be Covid vaccinated to enter one of his 20 hotels. This means that a family wanting to enjoy a meal in a beer-garden will need to have each of its children vaccinated, no matter how young.
The situation with customers is different to that of workers. Businesses can refuse entry to certain customers, but not in a way that breaches discrimination laws. Laundy will probably find that young families will take their patronage elsewhere. If he imposes an age exemption for children, this would likely breach anti-discrimination laws on the basis of age.
There is also the question of privacy laws. As a matter of principle, some fully vaccinated customers will refuse to show their private health records to strangers. Their rights under privacy will probably end up being contested in the courts. Laundy has announced his policy without thinking through the consequences of this complex, unformed area of law.
In other industries, the stakes will be higher. If supermarkets insist on fully vaccinated customers, this will raise the (implied) constitutional right for people to exist and survive in Australia – in this instance, being able to buy food. Court cases will inevitably follow.
One Nation Respects All Vaccination Choices
Respect is the key. NSW One Nation respects the vaccine choices of all people. We don’t yell at anyone in this debate, on either side. We know that people talk to their doctors and study the evidence and make the choice that best suits their health needs.
Within our party, people have made different choices and this is respected under the principles of informed consent. Our Federal Leader, Senator Pauline Hanson, has said publicly that she will remain unvaccinated while our two NSW MPs, Mark Latham and Rod Roberts, have been vaccinated.
Our biggest concern is for what the public is going through. It’s a horrible situation for someone to have to choose between their job and a medical procedure they don’t want.
Similarly, people should not be forced into vaccination simply to access food and the other basics of life. This is not the Australia we want or have ever contemplated: a nation more like China or North Korea in removing the informed consent of its citizens.
One Nation is fighting for government laws and processes that respect all people and their freedoms, whether as citizens, workers or consumers. We will never back down.
Disclaimer: This is not an official government or legal document. It has been prepared by the NSW One Nation research team as a guide to assist people in knowing the type of rights available to them during this complex Covid period. Care has been taken to provide the most reliable information available. But for anyone wanting to take matters further, please consult your lawyer and/or doctor for more detailed professional advice.
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Fat Tony says at 9:07 pm:
That’s a mighty powerful and scary keyboard you have there ya brave fella! 😁😁 Good Lord, listen to yourself!
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Obviously you can’t spell his name either, JC. One of my colleagues became a wizkid for a very well known international brokerage, he used to write those analyst blubs on companies that you see. They were amusing, especially the ones about the company we worked together in. He became the local head honcho even, which I admire. But anal-yst reports are often worth filing in the same place other anal-products are put.
Much as I like a stoush, as I know you do, I am going to bed. S’ya.
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Cold Hands 👍
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Mick from the Tourist Destination Formerly Known as Gold Coast, endorses police states.
have another vax, you know you deserve it.
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Bar Beach Swimmer says:
August 18, 2021 at 9:04 pm
Does anyone know anything about artificial grass? Quality? Any downside?i
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Apparently in sun it gets much hotter than real grass.
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For those of you missing Steve Kates he posts on Law of Markets. Some terrific stuff there….
https://lawofmarkets.com/
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Thanks, Cold-Hands.
I can’t write that it was a comforting read for my own circumstances though.
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This site will be known as
Top Cat since he is the leader of a colourful gang of Manhattan alley cats.
The Dover Beach Catallaxy clone is Bowtie Cat since he apes those pompous, conservative intellectual publications associated with bowtie-wearing, Latin-quoting, establishment
Bill Kristol types that no nobody reads, e.g. Quadrant Online.
The Monty-run Catallaxy clone (no link given for sake of you browsing safety) is Cat Phish since it just a phishing site.
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Baba says:
August 18, 2021 at 9:30 pm
Bar Beach Swimmer says:
August 18, 2021 at 9:04 pm
Does anyone know anything about artificial grass? Quality? Any downside?i
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Apparently in sun it gets much hotter than real grass.
You can burn your feet on the shit.
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Also looks like monty’s putting Steve’s posts up on Feral!
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Mick Gold Coast QLD says:
August 18, 2021 at 9:16 pm
Have you ever written anything that’s not just putting others down you sad old bag of shit.
Like I said, fuck off and crawl back into your safe space.
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Heil Mick
love your arrogance and knowledge.
Are you Russ Hinze’s nephew??
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It’s an automated service.
It’s going to feel a bit weird though, not gonna lie.
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No it’s Dover who has Steve and it’s going across to feral. Bloody hell! It’s a wild old ride in cat land
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This site will be known as Top Cat since he is the leader of a colourful gang of Manhattan alley cats.
The Dover Beach Catallaxy clone is Bowtie Cat since he apes those pompous, conservative intellectual publications associated with bowtie-wearing, Latin-quoting, establishment Bill Kristol types that no nobody reads, e.g. Quadrant Online.
The Monty-run Catallaxy clone (no link given for sake of you browsing safety) is Cat Phish since it just a phishing site.
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He thrashes the guts out of it.
RAF TYPHOON DISPLAY 2021
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