Open Thread – Tuesday 17 August 2021

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  1. JohnJJJ says:

    So I got stopped by the police. Where is your ID?. Sorry Officer I don’t have a driver’s license as I don’t have a car. So where is your ID card? ID card?
    He let me go with a warning to get an ID card. So dutifully I go to Service NSW to get one. I have to print out and fill in a form and bring a photo to their local office. Easy, but it says on their webpage to stay away from the office during this COVID period.
    This is getting better by the day.
    No wonder the Taliban won.


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  2. caveman says:

    I really don’t a give a shit about afganistan and their humanitarian crisis .
    Release us Australians from this sick totalitarian government and the misery they are inflicting on us, then , I might give some sort of shit but not before I look after my own family.


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  3. Grigory M says:

    The surf’s really up today

    Didn’t look much at Bar Beach late morning – small tide, half in.

    booming across the marshland

    Lol. As if – maybe up past the Little Gibber at Mungo Brush.


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  4. calli says:

    If we have to be DashCat, can DoomDover’s be FlashCat? On account of the fancy furnishings?

    No NiceCat about it. They wanted me banned, the horrors! *sob* 🤣


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  5. H B Bear says:

    Bird is about as popular as a pork chop in a synagogue. The irony is probably lost on him.


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  6. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Reminds me, time for a little Currawong mention. She is doing well and I am getting suspicious that she is working up to nest building elsewhere. She always takes the third lump of meat away to a ‘larder’ somewhere. A little early, isn’t it, Bruce of Newc?

    Hi Lizzie – The nesting season is well underway here as far as I can tell. I get a surge of keen currawongs around 2 or 3 pm when the day is warmest. Which I’ve always interpreted to mean the parents feel it’s warm enough to leave the eggs and get a quick bite to eat. No currawong nests nearby me, but that’s not surprising given the avian traffic here.

    Dunno about currawongs but the noisies and the magpies like to shift trees each season. So did the friendly peewee pair I had, before they finally left. I suspect same for currawongs. She’ll have a nest in a different tree somewhere.

    Young kooka who accepted meat from me first time yesterday arrived around lunchtime, on the fence. I was able to sidle up and present a lump on mince to him about 10cm away. He looked and looked and looked at it, then finally decided not to chance it, and flew to the clothesline. But came back again once I put the mince on the fence and took away my icky fingers.

    Other kid from last year is still quite wild but will let me toss bits of meat from some metres away, whereupon she’ll pick them up off the grass. I’m calling her she because she takes after mum, whereas the friendlier one looks and even has the same mannerisms as his dad. Sadly mum vanished around Christmas, but she was pretty old I think.


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  7. cohenite says:

    No wonder bird is nuts, he’s got more personalities then Hollywood has blow-jobs.

    I once did a matter involving DID (Dissociative identity disorder); very confusing. Bird’s names are interesting; but then so where W.C Field’s; and W.C. was funnier:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOHGr8r5Cs4


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  8. Dragnet says:

    Nick @ 4.46 pm
    I am the boyfriend with Covid apparently contracted from my contemporaneous stay at a Sydney hospital.
    I am asymptomatic and quite comfortably reading both Cat forums.


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  9. Bons says:

    As a skimmer, I have not taken much notice of The Bird over the years, but serious Cats are obviously deeply concerned by his putrid views and accusations.
    It is a bizarre situation. A purely disruptive psychology not apparently politically motivated but simply destructive of others’ peace of mind and communal spirit.
    Does anyone know anything about him and what his underlying motivations may be. It must take some serious commitment IT wise, as well as insinuating himself into threads before hissing his bile.


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  10. Steve trickler says:

    Nick De Cusa says:
    August 18, 2021 at 4:46 pm

    —-

    I’ll say it again. Put that brain in use for something good.


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  11. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Good game-fu Graeme! You must be quite used to being smote by the Stick of Truth by now.

    I haven’t played either, but I bought The Bards Tale off of Steam a couple days ago, which I’d played on Amiga in an older aeon. I don’t mind retro, and some nice people have apparently made it compatible to Win 10.


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  12. kaysee says:

    Wow is WHO quick or what?
    I think we were saying that on the Cat in Feb last year.

    There are Cats on the Cat who still don’t get what some of us have been saying for the past 16-18 months. So, yes, WHO is quick. 🙂


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  13. incoherent rambler says:

    FeralCat


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  14. JC says:

    I once did a matter involving DID (Dissociative identity disorder);

    You were treated for this mental illness by a psychiatrist. I recall you mentioned this. You were happy with the result.


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  15. ikamatua says:

    “Does anyone know anything about him and what his underlying motivations may be.”
    ..
    He’s doing it out of unrequited love.
    [strokes beard]
    There’s a rabbi from his long ago past when we both lived in East St. Kilda.


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  16. cohenite says:

    You were treated for this mental illness by a psychiatrist. I recall you mentioned this. You were happy with the result.

    Yes, he said to attach myself to a strong, masculine figure online and all my problems would be solved.


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  17. kaysee says:

    Russia says Afghan president fled with 4 cars, chopper full of money

    Afghan President Ashraf Ghani fled the country with four vehicles and a helicopter full of cash, the Russian embassy in Kabul said Monday.

    The embattled leader left the presidential palace in Kabul on Sunday to the insurgent Taliban fighters who had toppled his government.

    “To avoid bloodshed, I thought it would be better to leave,” Ghani, 72, said on Facebook in his first comments after his departure.

    The former World Bank academic — who holds a doctorate from New York City’s Columbia University — didn’t say where he was going, but Al Jazeera reported later that he had flown to Uzbekistan.


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  18. Armadillo says:

    Sqwark (flaps wings)


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  19. Rex Anger says:

    FlashCat certainly works for me, Calli.

    (And the sooner Doom_BeachLord can sort out his emoji coding, the better… 😉 )


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  20. Shane says:

    [Why anyone subscribes to any of the usual agitprop sites is beyond me considering all of the things they just ignore……..once upon a time local news made the news
    https://www.infowars.com/posts/our-voices-matter-touching-mini-documentary-shares-stories-of-vaccine-injured-australians/%5D

    For any interested, Martin Armstrong comes thru yet once again
    ”Blog/Disease
    Posted Aug 18, 2021 by Martin Armstrong
    Spread the love

    At last, we are starting to get some real research to deal with the biologically manufactured COVID-19 virus that appears to have been engineered and released with either unintended consequences, or it was known that it would mutate into something far worse. Even Germany operates a secret bio-laboratory in Wuhan under high security, which it has not disclosed to the public based on reliable sources. The Delta variant is spreading rapidly and it will impact people’s respiratory ability and make them even a little out of breath after climbing stairs.

    The CDC has released data for the past year covering 4.9 million people who were hospitalized between March 2020 and March 2021. Of that number, only 11% tested for COVID. They did not clarify if they were there for other reasons and just happened to test positive for COVID. But they have sorted through the data to try to determine who is dying from COVID. The two main factors are overweight and diabetes. The third most common category was fear-related disorders. Generally, these conditions alone increased your chance of death by about (1.30) 30% and if you had at least two such conditions it increased by about 50%. There were people with multiple conditions and that increased the chance of death by almost 400%. There is really no risk of death for most people and despite the extreme measures like New Zealand shutting down the entire economy, those at risk have been defined now by the CDC which does not justify terrorizing the entire nation.

    Here is what the CDC reported:

    Results

    Among 4,899,447 hospitalized adults in PHD-SR, 540,667 (11.0%) were patients with COVID-19, of whom 94.9% had at least 1 underlying medical condition. Essential hypertension (50.4%), disorders of lipid metabolism (49.4%), and obesity (33.0%) were the most common. The strongest risk factors for death were obesity (adjusted risk ratio [aRR] = 1.30; 95% CI, 1.27–1.33), anxiety and fear-related disorders (aRR = 1.28; 95% CI, 1.25–1.31), and diabetes with complication (aRR = 1.26; 95% CI, 1.24–1.28), as well as the total number of conditions, with aRRs of death ranging from 1.53 (95% CI, 1.41–1.67) for patients with 1 condition to 3.82 (95% CI, 3.45–4.23) for patients with more than 10 conditions (compared with patients with no conditions).

    Conclusion

    Certain underlying conditions and the number of conditions were associated with severe COVID-19 illness. Hypertension and disorders of lipid metabolism were the most frequent, whereas obesity, diabetes with complication, and anxiety disorders were the strongest risk factors for severe COVID-19 illness. Careful evaluation and management of underlying conditions among patients with COVID-19 can help stratify risk for severe illness.

    This new strain has been infecting children with varying impacts from minor cases to killing about 400. New York City is going off the deep end by imposed mandatory vaccines to simply go out and do anything, which is completely illogical when nearly 50% of the cases of COVID are among those already vaccinated. Canada is banning all travel without vaccines. New Zealand is locking down the entire country because of ONE CASE of COVID. This is the most irresponsible leader of any country. She even beat Biden, hands down.

    Now the White House wants everyone who is vaccinated with the two shots to get the third one because the first two do not work. Fauci is out now selling that idea because the vaccines have failed to do what he said they would — eradicate the virus. Then we have some in healthcare going nuts and demanding to test newborns for COVID. Many see this as the demand exclusively for vaccines, rejecting all therapy as diabolical. In the UK, the government has been forced to now investigate three new side-effects of both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, which are leading to the skin condition called erythema multiforme that causes round skin lesions. The condition may also affect mucous membranes in internal body cavities. Additionally, there are two kidney disorders reported nephrotic syndrome and glomerulonephritis. The nephrotic syndrome makes the kidneys leak too much protein into the urine.

    We are only now starting to scratch the surface. It has been shown that having a common cold helps against COVID. Many of us are hesitant concerning the vaccines, not just because they were developed in 2 days on a computer program, but deep concerns that they may result in altering your DNA and possibly impact fertility. The Israeli government has reported that the Pfizer vaccine is only 39% effective. There is just no data available as to the long-term effects of these new experimental vaccines that mess with your DNA.

    Meanwhile, the claims that the whole world had to be vaccinated to terminate COVID were a lie. Biden has been struggling to try to explain that the vaccinated can still contract and spread COVID, for any virus that also infects animals cannot be eradicated as was the case with smallpox. The animal population will always produce new variants naturally (e.g., Bird Flu, Swine Flu). All of this flies in the face of trying to restrict movement with COVID Passports which are really intended for climate change. This is part of the problem — the admixture of health & climate change.

    Sotrovimab
    Entering into this quagmire is GlaxoSmithKline and Vir Biotechnology with Sotrovimab, the newest antibody therapy, developed after a large collaborative study by scientists from across the nation who have worked together and discovered a natural antibody (in the blood of a COVID-19 survivor) that has remarkable efficacy that will NOT alter your DNA. Sotrovimab is authorized for use under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), so there is no dispute, and it is for “the treatment of mild-to-moderate coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) in adults and pediatric patients (12 years of age and older weighing at least 40 kg) with positive results of direct SARS-CoV-2 viral testing, and who are at high risk for progression to severe COVID-19, including hospitalization or death.”

    Experiments showed that this antibody, called S309, neutralizes all known SARS-CoV-2 strains. The newly emerged mutations can now be known as the breakthroughs as well as the closely related original SARS-CoV virus. This Molecular Biology Consortium used beamlines at two labs to perform x-ray crystallography on samples of survivor-derived antibodies during an early phase of the study. This work, alongside other crystallography and cryo-electron microscopy findings, contributed to generating a detailed structural map of how these antibodies bind to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. This further allowed the wider team to select the most promising candidates enabling them to advance this analysis to cell culture and animal-based studies. Following the lab results, the developers designed Sotrovimab based on the structure of S309 and then advanced to clinical trials.

    The FDA granted a EUA for Sotrovimab in late May after trials showed that people with mild to moderate COVID-19 infections who received an infusion of the therapy had an 85% reduction in rates of hospitalization or death, compared with placebo. However, as the new mutations began to appear, it was understood that a new pathogenic coronavirus could emerge from an animal-human real crossover event in the future. This is what I have been saying that there is no vaccine that will exterminate this virus. Bill Gates is either stupid, or he deliberately lied that once the world was vaccinated, we would return to normal.

    This team of scientists began a follow-up study exploring what factors make antibodies resistant to viral breakthroughs. They needed to know how certain antibodies are also broadly reactive against related viruses mutations. Using biochemical and structural analysis, deep mutational scanning, and binding experiments, they were then able to identify one antibody with unparalleled universal potency. They were able to discover an antibody that neutralizes ALL KNOWN forms of this virus so far. They believe, based upon animal trials that this antibody could even PREVENT a COVID-19 infection if given prophylactically.

    The new work was published in Nature. While the press bashes any treatment other than Gates’ vaccines, they are totally silent on an approach other than vaccines.

    We may have an ALTERNATIVE to Gates’ Terrorizing the world. ”


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  21. TailgunneR says:

    Bird is ok, he’s promised to behave and not mention the Venetians.
    He’s sticking to it.
    Free speech, mofos.
    I don’t get offended, so IDGAF what anyone says.
    I have questions about what happened between 19³³-45 to certain peeps.
    As long as we know we can’t question anything about the holocaust, we’re all cool, right?
    Why can’t anyone ask questions about it again?
    Like climate change&Coof vaccines?
    Step back and take a good look at your own prejudices please.
    Anything with smoke deserves to be looked at. Or not?
    Bidan got 81 million, super-dooper legitimate votes to defeat the god Emperor.
    Questioning such facts gets one silenced in many places.
    If I contend the Earth is flat should I be banned or laughed at?
    Free speech. Except for “historical FACTS”?
    Yeah, righto


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  22. Fat Tony says:

    Bruce of Newcastle

    About 2 weeks ago, I was helping move house for one of the grandkids at Caloundra.

    I was set upon by a flock(?) of magpies wanting to get fed.
    There were 6 young birds and one senior.

    Is it normal for young magpies to gang up like this?


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  23. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    Nick De Cusa says at 4:46 pm:

    “… in hospital with Covid. … When friends got Covid I sent them money for HCQ off the shelf, … We had to keep them away from the hospital so that they could be looked after by people who weren’t rule-bound and wanted them to live. A hospital is a lethal place to be when the staff are following globally centralised orders. When you are in a hospital you are under the control of a cult.”

    I come here now every couple of days merely for a giggle but when I see this mad deranged effort I say this is a dead set dangerous place.

    Whoever you are you’re barking mad! Grow up.


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  24. TailgunneR says:

    https://youtu.be/N6IC80LfrNs
    Have a few lines and come for a skate in Colombia, dudes


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  25. Robert Mc says:

    There were a couple of whiffs of old woman about the blog this afternoon. Not Chanel, just old woman.


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  26. caveman says:

    Jim’s Mowing now Jim’s Jabs..probably more money in it.


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  27. calli says:

    (And the sooner Doom_BeachLord can sort out his emoji coding, the better… 😉 )

    True. Brightens up the place. The formatting buttons have gone AWOL too, so it’s just like here and hard going, but with bigger point typeface and a stylish black border.

    And YobCat is truly blessed. We have trolls.


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  28. TailgunneR says:

    “this is a dead set dangerous place.”
    Yep, guys in white patent leather shoes should GTFO to their safe space.
    Lol, you lame mofo
    Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.
    And take your gay longboard with you.


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  29. cohenite says:

    Bird is ok, he’s promised to behave and not mention the Venetians.
    He’s sticking to it.

    Venetian blinds?

    Bird can’t stick to anything; his brain is made of Teflon; and when Teflon becomes over-heated it releases toxic gases.


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  30. TailgunneR says:

    https://youtu.be/xamGrall2wc
    Come on a Russian roadtrip. With extra subwoofers.
    MickGC is the guy in red
    🤣🤣🤣🤣


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  31. Fat Tony says:

    TailgunneR says:
    August 18, 2021 at 5:24 pm

    TG – one of the many things i have learned over the years on the Cat was this:

    If you want to know who rules you, find out who you cannot criticise.


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  32. cohenite says:

    So best just not to have the tumour tests in the first place. If you can wait out everyone else, and supposing you are not hauled off to the gulag, there will be plenty of work for you.

    Now, that sounds like a fucking plan.


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  33. H B Bear says:

    Jim’s Mowing now Jim’s Jabs..probably more money in it.

    So long as they do the edges properly I don’t mind. No leaf blowers either.


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  34. TailgunneR says:

    https://youtu.be/bl9Ts7zfWf4
    Getting BADLY caught inside.
    An actual dangerous place.
    Unlike a blog.
    This poor bastard.
    No longboards allowed


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  35. TailgunneR says:

    “If you want to know who rules you, find out who you cannot criticise.”
    Awww sheeeit, that’s racist!
    Where’s my cry closet!??!?


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  36. H B Bear says:

    YobCat is not the Ladies Bar. No shandies either.


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  37. Carpe Jugulum says:

    Good evening troops

    Given what has gone on in the last few days with pResident Sniffy McGropehands, i am thinking of running a book on when the first attempt to remove Creepy Uncle McSniffy.

    I will collate any data here but will cross post on DB’s page and Discord for any potential participation, i’m prepared to do a daily update of the picks in Biden Lotto so i can pick up any that i have missed.

    If you are interested, let me know.


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  38. Roger says:

    The US State Department has called on the Taliban to form an “inclusive and representative government.”

    Someone tell those idiots – who share much of the blame for this debacle – that when you lose a war you don’t get to dictate terms to the victor.

    That’s why you plan to win in the first place.

    Otherwise don’t start the war.


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  39. JC says:

    Timothy N

    Last evening you asked me about BHP. I believe the market is thinking along the same lines in that a large cash payout suggests the company is bereft of investment ideas and choices or at least it’s hitting the wall. This isn’t good. Today’s fall was twice the amount of the announced div or thereabouts.

    The stock fell 7% today. When a stock falls by this sort of amount after an important announcement like in this case, a large dividend, it’s wake up and take notice time. However, as I said, I’m not really interested in the miners.

    Ivy Fund’s Management would have a clearer picture.


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  40. calli says:

    The US State Department has called on the Taliban to form an “inclusive and representative government.

    And that’s what the loss of moral authority looks like.

    No counterfeits will be tolerated.

    These guys used to call the US the Great Satan.


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  41. Rex Anger says:

    Mick Gold Coast QLD says:
    August 18, 2021 at 5:28 pm
    Nick De Cusa says at 4:46 pm:

    Bird’s latest iteration, going full ‘health’ quack.

    I had previously wondered if Figures was a Birdsock, and that display above is doing a lot to harden my certainty…


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  42. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Is it normal for young magpies to gang up like this?

    Fat Tony – Exactly this happened to me this morning. I went for a walk since it’s been a nice day, and I take a large chunk of mince with me because I have more than half of the local magpies accepting food from my hand. It’s a fun hobby and an excuse to go get some exercise.

    Down near the foreshore park there’s an section of the track which goes through some sheoaks, and a bunch of magpies congregate there. This morning I’d just passed a lady and her dog when a young magpie spotted me and did a C-130 style emergency landing in front of me. Magpie gets mince, yum. THEN the rest arrived. Four adults and eight juveniles. So I was kneeling in the middle of the walking track handing out small bits of mince to them. About two thirds were brave enough to take it from my hand. It was great fun, and the other walkers were very considerate, bypassing or holding off. Finally another lady-with-dog was approaching so it was necessary to shoo them away rather than have the lady’s dog take off after them.

    I hadn’t ever had that many turn up, nor be so friendly. Previously maybe six or seven at most. Sadly one of the young ones had a dislocated hip, so I don’t think it has long in the world. But it got a good feed, which is all I could do.

    And to answer your question, yes. There’s a nice ABC video on Australian Magpie behaviour that a Cat once put up on the old Cat, which talks about this. I don’t have a bookmark but it should be easy to find. The young ones after being driven away by the parents wander around and sometimes they find an unclaimed territory with food, where they congregate.

    This area is one of such. I think there’s a food source nearby which I won’t describe (it’s not me). And the walking track has people who feed them too. So a dozen young ones can survive in the area that only a pair could normally. They seem to hang around these places for a couple of years then go off and find territories when the urge comes upon them.


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  43. Indolent says:

    Someone loudly shouts “Nuremberg 2” at the NSW Police Commissioner at his press conference –

    https://gab.com/Rustttt34/posts/106772521077670726

    (Second item)


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  44. calli says:

    Carpe. Posted on FlashCat. But I made a mistake in my unseemly haste. ☹️

    Put me down for 10/9/21

    At midnight. In the basement. With the lead pipe.


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  45. cohenite says:

    i am thinking of running a book on when the first attempt to remove Creepy Uncle McSniffy.

    You mean remove physically? Because mentally this bastard is not there to remove.

    The key point is the mid-terms. In a normal world, biden would kill them; but when you factor in what will be the enormous degree of cheating they may figure the wretched old corpse can shield whoever will take over from him 2024. Biden can be propped up endlessly with Cholinisterase Inhibitors.

    The other ringer is terrorist attacks. The talifucks will be flat out dismantling some of the attack helicopters left in afshitistan with a view to shipping them to the US, crossing the Southern border and then reassembling them and flying them into something. If that happens before the mid-terms biden won’t just be removed but shot. In which case the book should include which calibre will put him out of our misery.


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  46. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    JC – BHP is divesting their oil & gas division because green-woke. Investors aren’t stupid, even if BHP management are. The division is to be merged with Woodside. I suspect the Chinese will eventually get the lot in the fullness of time. That’s a lot of cash flow burned on the altar of Gaia.


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  47. TailgunneR says:

    Hey Mick – will you want special dispensation after the revolution because you “posted on the Cat”?

    Sorry, homeboy.
    Fake revolutionaries are the first to the post.
    Blindfold or no?


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  48. H B Bear says:

    Nobody is allowed to win wars anymore. You just end up with guys in blue helmets driving around in leased Landcruisers. The only winners are Toyota dealers.


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  49. TailgunneR says:

    https://youtu.be/uSl8kxMSEzs
    Bruce from Newcastle, colorized
    🤣🤣😎😎🤘🤘