Open Thread – Thursday 5 August 2021

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  1. Whalehunt Fun says:

    I comment is up. That is what


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  2. K2 says:

    West Coast Eagles are shit pea-hearted xunts……. Fremantle have a brighter future; supposing there is a future.


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  3. srr says:

    ConservativeChicky @ConservativeChicky 1h
    https://gab.com/ConservativeChicky/posts/106698076085757680

    Fast-spreading COVID variant can elude immune responses
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00121-z
    21 Jan 2021

    This is now straight out Emperor’s New Clothes.
    NO Symptoms, CAN’T test for it, oh but PANIC!!


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  4. Alpha Romeo says:

    No matter how bad Julie Bishop turned eventually out to be.

    Her arms really weren’t all that bad…

    I’ll say that for her.


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  5. srr says:

    ‘Outrageous’: Dan Andrews slammed
    4:34PM
    Daniel Andrews’ government has been labelled as ‘corrupt’ in parliament over a polling scandal involving the use of taxpayers’ money.

    https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/politics/victorian-opposition-slams-daniel-andrews-government-over-corrupt-taxpayer-spend/news-story/45fa662b6fe887071b6fbc8978b8991a

    I don’t know, it just seems odd to read this in “Breaking News”.


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  6. rocinante says:

    Thanks for your efforts, Tom.


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  7. jupes says:

    FFS Adam. Get rid of this dickhead before he get’s rid of the site.


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  8. Mak Siccar says:

    In today’s Oz.

    Closing the Gap: Stolen children to be given $378m redress

    PAIGE TAYLOR
    INDIGENOUS AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT, WA BUREAU CHIEF

    GREG BROWN
    JOURNALIST

    AUGUST 5, 2021

    Thousands of Indigenous Australians who were removed from their families as children and taken to commonwealth-run ­facilities will receive a one-off $75,000 payment under a $378m redress scheme to be outlined by Scott Morrison on Thursday.

    The reparations will put pressure on Western Australia and Queensland – the only states that do not have redress schemes for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people taken from their families under historic policies – to match the commitment.

    The Prime Minister, outlining the government’s response to the new national Closing the Gap agreement, will tell parliament an apology for the Stolen Generations is not enough.

    “We have already confronted it with the national apology. But our deeds must match our words,” Mr Morrison will say, ­according to an early copy of his speech obtained by The Australian. The payment, he will say, is “in recognition of the harm caused by forced removal”.

    “And it will give each survivor the opportunity, should they wish, to tell their story, and receive an individual apology.

    “This is a long-called-for step. Recognising the bond between healing, dignity, and the health and wellbeing of members of the Stolen Generations, their families and their communities.

    “To say, formally, not just that we’re deeply sorry for what happened, but that we will take responsibility for it.”

    About 3200 people in the Northern Territory and 400 in the Australian Capital Territory will qualify for the scheme.

    It is due to begin in 2022, 25 years after the Bringing Them Home report found that, under international law, from approximately 1946 the policies of forcible removal amount to genocide.

    The report concluded that between one in three and one in 10 Indigenous children were forcibly removed from their communities between 1910 and 1970.

    Mr Morrison will reveal the ­redress payments as part of the commonwealth’s $1bn response to the new national agreement on Closing the Gap, a 10-year plan to reduce Indigenous disadvantage against 17 targets.

    The new spending on Closing the Gap includes $160m on children’s health and early learning and $254m for community-controlled Aboriginal health groups.

    Those organisations impressed the government by efficiently rolling out Covid-19 vaccinations to remote communities and – in some cases – by using their rapport with residents to counter misinformation about vaccines. The money will be used to upgrade health clinics and build staff accommodation as the organisations assume a bigger role as part of Closing the Gap measures. Indigenous Australians Minister Ken Wyatt says the organisations will do critical work, and on their terms.

    The last Closing the Gap agreement is considered a failure because Australia did not meet five out of seven targets set in 2008. The new agreement differs in part because it is signed by each state and territory – as well as a coalition of 50 peak Indigenous organisations – in a commitment to work together to meet annual goals. Aboriginal community-controlled organisations will do much of the work currently done by non-Indigenous organisations and government departments.

    The government decided to go ahead with the redress scheme after discussions with The Healing Foundation, whose chief executive Fiona Cornforth had been briefed on its operation on Wednesday and described it as an important step “to end these cycles of trauma”.

    “We are so emotional about what will be announced,” Ms Cornforth said. “We have worked really hard as an organisation to elevate the voices of stolen generation survivors, their descendants and their families.

    “We know, because the data is clear now, that because of removal these survivors carry a ­burden that is significant … we welcome this and we look forward to helping to build a scheme that will do no more harm.”

    Mr Morrison will say the Closing the Gap process instigated by the Rudd government was “born of the best intentions” but “remained hard of hearing”.

    “It is why this government brought together a new 10-year (agreement), signed by all Australian governments, the Coalition of Peaks and the Australian Local Government Association,” Mr Morrison will say.

    “And from that partnership, the National Agreement on Closing the Gap was born.

    “Today, we make the promises of that agreement real with the presentation of the first commonwealth implementation plan.

    “In financial commitments, partnership, shared accountability and scope, this is the most ­significant and comprehensive response to Closing the Gap that the government has ever provided,” Mr Morrison will say.

    An annual commonwealth progress report will be tabled by the government in parliament

    Mr Morrison will say the ultimate test for the plan will be providing every Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander child “the same opportunities and expectations as any other Australian”.


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  9. struth says:

    26 million Australians have had their livesstolen from them over the last eighteen months.
    I don’t know about you but my reparations will involve pollies to be paying more than just money.


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  10. John Bayley says:

    Closing the Gap: Stolen children to be given $378m redress

    Well…it’s only money, and now that the RBA has fully embraced the printing press-driven path to recovery, all it takes is pressing the Ctrl+P buttons a few times and all past wrongs are miraculously set right.

    Although, now that I think of it, has anyone actually managed to answer the ‘Just Name 10’ [actually stolen] aboriginal kids challenge Andrew Bolt put up some 15 years ago?


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  11. John Bayley says:

    By the way, does anyone know how the negotiations are going when it comes to attracting past contributors to the New Cat?

    That is, C.L., Steve Kates, Rafe, David Bidstrup, to name only a few?
    I doubt we will see Judith Sloan or Henry Ergas here any time soon, but the above would make a mighty fine start indeed.


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  12. DrBeauGan says:

    Thanks Tom.

    Adam, what Jupes said.


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  13. Mark A says:

    Something to think about,

    Me: Hey, how do you fall asleep so quickly at night?
    Hubby: I don’t know. I just shut off my brain and then I’m asleep.
    Me: WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU JUST SHUT OFF YOUR BRAIN?
    Hubby: I dunno.
    Me: WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON’T KNOW?
    Hubby: I really don’t know. I just close my eyes and stop thinking.
    Me: You don’t lie there and wonder if you forgot to do something earlier in the day?
    Hubby: No.
    Me: You don’t worry that you said something stupid?
    Hubby: What? No.
    Me: You don’t replay scenarios and assume people are mad at you?
    Hubby: No.
    Me: You don’t get the sudden urge to get your life in order?
    Hubby: Ummmmm…no.
    Me: You don’t even start making up scenarios that may or may not happen in your head? Worry about the kids? Money? How to lose 5 lbs by morning? The toilet that needs to be fixed?
    Hubby: No. I’m asleep, so I’m not wondering or worrying about anything.
    Me: Literally nothing? Just close your eyes and then that’s really it?
    Hubby: Pretty much.
    Me: I’m sorry. I’m having such a hard time understanding.
    Hubby: Is that not how it works for you?
    [two minutes of silence goes by]
    Hubby: You can’t really be mad at me for this.
    Me: Goodnight.
    Hubby: Babe…
    Me: I said goodnight sir.


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  14. jupes says:

    About 3200 people in the Northern Territory and 400 in the Australian Capital Territory will qualify for the scheme.

    How do you qualify? Does Bruce Pascoe get a cut?


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  15. Mark A says:

    John Bayley says:
    August 5, 2021 at 5:41 am

    By the way, does anyone know how the negotiations are going when it comes to attracting past contributors to the New Cat?

    That is, C.L., Steve Kates, Rafe, David Bidstrup, to name only a few?
    I doubt we will see Judith Sloan or Henry Ergas here any time soon, but the above would make a mighty fine start indeed.

    I don’t think any of that will happen until the blog structure is sorted and the flotsam is discarded.
    ‘———————————-
    On an other note

    Which blog is going to win out and stay long term?
    Who knows?

    One thing is sure, I do have a good memory and remember monty treating those who disagreed with him, with disdain, utter contempt and sometimes with sheer hatred.

    How some people forget and forgive so quickly, make excuses even, turning themselves into pretzels in the process of explaining why this devil is the right one, for a handful of silver, so to speak. (be accepted on his blog)

    People like him do not change, ideology got them by the curlies.
    Given his age he could have done so by now.
    Anyone can be pleasant and agreeable for a while.


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  16. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Bruce of WA. Thanks for putting the insulting and pompous DM right about my comments and critique of moderation on this site on the last Open Thread. He’s a real woman-hater that one. As opposed to Johanna, who is a 0ne-woman-only hater. Adam asked for feedback. I offered some. No biggie.

    lol, Mark A. It is nothing like that. What a fervent imagination you have.
    I fall asleep as my head hits the pillow.
    Sometimes I toss because I need to wake up for a pee. 🙂


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  17. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “By the way, does anyone know how the negotiations are going when it comes to attracting past contributors to the New Cat?

    That is, C.L., Steve Kates, Rafe, David Bidstrup, to name only a few?”

    I’d imagine they would not be enjoying the Bird strike.


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  18. Knuckle Dragger says:

    How’s traffic on your own blog Bird? Less than stellar?

    That’s because people aren’t interested in you, or your personal one-man grievance industry.

    Admit that you are here only because there’s an audience, and that people come here for a range of competent views on a range of subjects. Admit that you can’t gain traction on your own, and only receive any visibility at all because you ride on the backs of others.

    You could have been a contender once. You turned into Lionel Rose. A damaged ex-ex something who used to turn up at every death involving any part-indig person in Fitzroy and Collingwood, and remove the deceased’s wallet and watch while claiming to be their ‘uncle’.

    In other words, a lightweight.


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  19. Mater says:

    How some people forget and forgive so quickly, make excuses even, turning themselves into pretzels in the process of explaining why this devil is the right one, for a handful of silver, so to speak. (be accepted on his blog)

    Not me.
    A light scale reminder. Not exhaustive.

    m0nty
    #3136959, posted on August 21, 2019 at 11:07 am

    A conviction doesn’t made it true Monty.

    He is a convicted rock spider, an horrific monster and stands for everything that right-thinking people should reject. Anyone who continues to support him is on the side of evil.

    Or, perhaps if you’re in for some random, ideological violence.

    m0nty
    #2275181, posted on January 26, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    yes, it is always correct to punch Nazis. They lost the right to not be punched in the face when they started spouting genocidal ideologies that in living memory killed millions upon millions of people.

    Well said, that man.

    This site might be on the nose right now, but I’ll be damned if I’ll trade in my principles and go running into arms of Monty, just because he lashed out on some plugins.
    Plug-ins are cheap, I’m not.


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  20. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘I’ll be damned if I’ll trade in my principles and go running into arms of Monty, just because he lashed out on some plugins.’

    Damn straight.

    The porky ranga will be sitting in his basement, stroking a bald cat at the very thought of former adherents of that august journal or record gravitating to his own Venus fly trap of a site.

    ‘Muahaha ha ha. Yeessssss, my pretties. Come closer. Closer.’


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  21. Mother Lode says:

    Damn.

    Someone stepped in mushroom bullshit and have walked it in into the new carpet.


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  22. H B Bear says:

    I don’t even like mushrooms.

    DO IT!


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  23. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    M0nty would never put up with Bird on his site. That is the attraction for me.

    If Adam can address that issue, this site may yet thrive.

    For the record, many here have been far more trenchant in their stated demands for the removal of Bird and his anti-Semitism than I have been. And good on them. I have kept it polite, and requested not demanded. Yes, I have been upset about it for Cassie’s sake, definitely: Cassie is a personal friend of mine. Yet I am called ‘a tyrant’ by DM as well as receiving the usual insulting and classic bullshit from Johanna and the likes of K2.

    What pathetic frauds they are. I wonder what other shadows they jump at.

    Now, as I often do when ole Ma Nature gets me up early, I am going back to bed.


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  24. Carpe Jugulum says:

    Good Morning All

    I’ll get the Karcher out and clean up the bird poo.

    Good toons and lame pics today


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  25. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “In other words, a lightweight.”

    —-

    Now, now, KD, don’t filch Hairy’s word for Johanna.

    Poor old Bird has no weight at all. He is a sad very mentally ill man.
    I hope he is banned from here. It would be for his own good too.
    He might seek some appropriate help for his mental high before he crashes into a further depression.


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  26. Top Ender says:

    THE Central Land Council (CLC) is offering all its employees, the majority of whom are Indigenous, a cash incentive of $500 to get the Covid-19 jab.

    It’s believed to be the first NT business or organisation to offer a financial payment to get vaccinated against the coronavirus.

    CLC chief executive Lesley Turner said the organisation began offering the incentive due to a lack of government awareness campaigns targeted at Aboriginal people.

    “We had to do something before it’s too late and we get community transmission of the highly infectious Delta strain here in the Territory,” he said. “We wanted to encourage a higher uptake of vaccinations in our remote communities because our Aboriginal health services tell us the vaccine uptake has been very patchy.”

    Mr Turner said when the cash campaign kicked off five weeks ago, just two per cent of his 200 employees were vaccinated.

    He said that figure has now spiked to almost 100 employees, which includes elected Aboriginal councillors and executive members.

    NT News


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  27. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    This one is for the Premiers and their white coat experts. And for ScoMo.

    Double-Blind Ivermectin Study Reveals COVID Patients Recover More Quickly, Are Less Infectious (4 Aug)

    A double-blind Israeli study has concluded that Ivermectin, an inexpensive anti-parasitic widely used since 1981, reduces both the duration and infectiousness of Covid-19, according to the Jerusalem Post.

    “Our study shows first and foremost that ivermectin has antiviral activity,” said Schwartz, adding “It also shows that there is almost a 100% chance that a person will be noninfectious in four to six days, which could lead to shortening isolation time for these people. This could have a huge economic and social impact.”

    The study, which appeared on the MedRxiv preprint server and has not yet been peer-reviewed. That said, Schwartz pointed out that similar studies – ‘though not all of them conducted to the same double-blind and placebo standards as his’ – also showed favorable results for the drug.

    The stuff really does appear to be on a par with the vaccines in terms of effectiveness, and much more easy to get, cheaper and no special cold storage required.

    Over to you Australian governments. You say you believe the science? Well you don’t get better than a well designed double-blind study.


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  28. 132andBush says:

    What Mark A and Mater said.

    Monty’s veil is as thin as wet toilet paper and he regularly let it slip.


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  29. Bons says:

    Ramirez”s artwork is amazing. He must devote a lot of time each day to producing his toons, even with a drawing program.


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  30. Mater says:

    M0nty would never put up with Bird on his site. That is the attraction for me.

    That is undoubtedly true, Lizzie.
    Which leads to the obvious question, what else will he not put up with once (if) he kills off all the competition?

    No one who supported the lockdowns, and still supports them, has enough understanding and respect for freedom and individuality to run a site that was the Cat. Sorry.


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  31. Vicki says:

    Daily Mail reporting that family of young man who died in lockdown apparently with covid, had a heart condition. All family names reported. They further reported that heart conditions common in their family.

    ABC, on the contrary, reporting that family say he was perfectly healthy.


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  32. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘I had to shut down my second blog because of harassment.’

    Because nobody was interested in it, you mean. Then you had to use the credibility of others to briefly screech in the sun before being returned to irrelevance, instead of using your own two feet.

    You blame your own inadequacies on centuries – nay, millennia – of imagined slights from people you don’t know, who don’t know about you and wouldn’t care if they did.

    As with so many in this day and age, Bird, it’s always someone else fault. Isn’t it?


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  33. Knuckle Dragger says:

    *else’s*

    Where are my smokes?


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  34. Adam D Adam D says:

    I have smited my first smite in the form of Bird whom broke the no d***head policy. Whilst I didn’t agree with his views it was not so much what they were but the way they were expressed that ultimately cost his fate.

    If anyone disagrees let me know as I formulate a moderating policy. Also 2 things to note

    1. His post are gone so some of your replies may look out of place, apologies for that

    2. He will likely be back so vigilance will be key, just let me know via email for faster avian control


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  35. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Re the new Ivermectin study, I’d be interested to know the vax status of the participants. Unless controlled for, it could be a confounding factor. I would expect they have it covered, but you can’t tell from the summary.

    Re M0nty – he starts with the assumption a good site would need moderation, and Bird is the classic exemplar of that. He says his moderation would follow that of Sinc. I suspect he would stick by that. Adam says he is addressing the issue of how to moderate. We shall have to see how that turns out.

    I am no tyrant. Nor would I want to be involved in doing any moderation.
    Basically, I am too soft-hearted for it. 🙂


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  36. Eyrie says:

    Lizzie, if you don’t like this site, just go over to Monty’s tender loving arms and stop posting here.


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  37. Top Ender says:

    Education Minister Alan Tudge has slammed a Brisbane school which set students a task to describe why we should change the Australian flag.

    James Morrow
    DAILY TELEGRAPH

    While Aussie athletes go for gold in Tokyo, Australian students are being taught to denigrate the flag and anthem they are competing under, according to federal Education Minister Alan Tudge.

    Pointing to a civics and citizenship class assignment for Year 7 students given out at high school in Brisbane’s northern suburbs, Mr Tudge said it was a clear example of how some in the education ­establishment are trying to “undermine our country, its symbols and institutions”.

    The exercise calls for students to “complete a three-minute speech to the Youth Parliament on why we need to change the Australian anthem or flag to reflect the values and identity of Australian society today”.

    “In the middle of the Olympics, where the country is singing the anthem and waving our flag, this is what the school sets?” Mr Tudge asked.

    “It doesn’t even give students the opportunity to take their own position. Rather, they have to say why the flag no longer reflects us.

    “Mainstream Australia is sick to death of those elements in the education system trying to undermine our country, its symbols and institutions.”

    Mr Tudge pointed to the ­assignment as an example of why students are doing so poorly in civics and citizenship education.

    Earlier this year, tests revealed that just 38 per cent of Year 10 students and 53 per cent of Year 6s were able to achieve a “proficient” standard in civics and citizenship, ­reflecting a continuing slide in their understanding of the workings of Australian democracy that has been occurring for at least a decade.

    Currently, the Australian Curriculum, Assessment and Reporting Authority (ACARA) is taking feedback on a draft revised curriculum in all subject areas.


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  38. Dot says:

    Bruce

    Idiots like “Matt” will bitch, moan and caterwaul that it hasn’t been peer reviewed yet and they will make up stuff about randomisation and controls. Pure whatabouttism.

    “Well ackchually, said the bugman…”

    No, you haven’t read the paper. You have it a quick hit with Ctrl F.


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  39. Vicki says:

    Just as I thought the level of insanity couldn’t rise, today PM is going to announce $1 BILLION to indigenous communities to “close the gap”.

    Do they never learn? It is not about money. It is all about the dreadful decisions made in the 1970s to promote the wretched remote communities in which Aoborigines could return to the way of life of their ancestors. In fact, there they fester & die amidst dreadful abuse of each other.

    Oh & btw the “stolen generation” will receive $75,000 each & an apology.

    Although I have much affection for our indigenous people, I cannot agree with this absolutely atrocious policy & the ignorance it implies.

    Have decided can not vote for the Libs in foreseeable future. A pox on them all.


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  40. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘I have smited my first smite’

    *applause*


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  41. Carpe Jugulum says:

    “I have smited my first smite in the form of Bird whom broke the no d***head policy.”

    Well Done (golf clap).


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  42. Bons says:

    Many years ago I was close to a ‘stolen generation’ gal. Daughter of a N0rthern Suburbs family, SCEGS, UTS etc, nice kid.
    With a bunch of (all white) kids she spent some time as a hanger-on at one of Fred Hollows’ bush sites and went instantly feral.
    Sad, Her long term mates dumped her because her indig blah blah was so painful. Her new pals were not to be recommended. She got into strife doing something idiotic near Pine Gap.
    Her Dad was cool with it but her Mum was shattered.
    I’ve often thought that I should have followed-up with her, but I imagine that she had a comfortable life in the PS or some Govt funded indig related outfit. Hope so.


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  43. custard says:

    Great work Adam.

    Small steps…


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  44. Dot says:

    😊 > 🐶 > 🐱 > 🐦

    That’s called the food chain, Billy.


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  45. Filbert says:

    WTF is Bird still here?
    Piss him orf please Adam.
    I look forward to ‘meeting’ Monty whom I consider an actual Nazi.
    It will be a very brief exchange following the ‘Monty Protocol’.


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  46. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Oh, and Johanna. Just noticed that my phone still has the old Cat page on it, where I see that it was on 30th July at 10.36am I said:

    “I am hoping for better vaccines and treaments … they will rebrand Ivermectin by tweaking it.”

    Some days later a post was put up here which said that Big Pharma were doing exactly that. When I make a mild joke and say my crystal ball must have been right you hone straight in with your one-woman-hatred and burble on about self-aggrandizement.

    You are absolutely no fun at all to be around. And you are a fucking leopard – you give the appearance occasionally of changing your spots – but they are never really changed. Hatred is your main and only game. No wonder I get cross.


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  47. JC says:

    De Santis is just excellent. Just great.

    He goes after the corrupt demented scumbag in the White House leaving a bloody mess on the floor.

    https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/desantis-spits-fire/


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  48. Filbert says:

    Thanks Adam!
    Bird is beyond the pale.
    Monty, beside it.


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  49. Dot says:

    “Pointing to a civics and citizenship class assignment for Year 7 students given out at high school in Brisbane’s northern suburbs, Mr Tudge said it was a clear example of how some in the education ­establishment are trying to “undermine our country, its symbols and institutions”.”

    The flag isn’t great visually and the political tetropoly have DESTROYED our institutions in the past 18 months.

    We haven’t got civil liberties anymore, but hey, we’ve got this lame flag!

    Just give us back our civil liberties, go away and we can use the Eureka Flag. At least as a cautionary tale not to be corrupt, power hungry dickheads.


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  50. lotocoti says:

    Sounds like Dr Jenny has finally received a bit of rough handling, MSM-wise.
    I suspect the Governor deelio was Pony Girl’s way of ensuring
    she would only ever be seen and not heard in the future.


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  51. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “Lizzie, if you don’t like this site, just go over to Monty’s tender loving arms and stop posting here.”

    I have been hedging my bets by doing both. As have some others (note, I get the flack while others who do the same thing are never slated, which is typical of some of this site where I seem to function as some sort of lightning rod or whipping boy). No wonder I get fed up with it.

    I see now that Adam has steeled himself and taken the plunge against Bird strike.
    Well done.
    Birdie should know that many here hope he seeks help to calm down.


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  52. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “I suspect the Governor deelio was Pony Girl’s way of ensuring
    she would only ever be seen and not heard in the future.”

    Yep. She’ll be gone soon. Another lightweight.


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  53. Diogenes says:

    Currently, the Australian Curriculum, Assessment and Reporting Authority (ACARA) is taking feedback on a draft revised curriculum in all subject areas.

    Many of you bitch about the leftists march through education. Here is the first and easiest step…
    I beg all of you in your particular areas of expertise or interest, whether it is IT , English, History, Science, Geology, Civics, anything, even Dance… please go on to the ACARA website, find the draft curriculum that matches your interest, read it and comment.

    Through long experience I find they take notice of what academics, parents, civilians, and then teachers in that order have to say.


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  54. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “On an other note

    Which blog is going to win out and stay long term?
    Who knows?

    One thing is sure, I do have a good memory and remember monty treating those who disagreed with him, with disdain, utter contempt and sometimes with sheer hatred.

    How some people forget and forgive so quickly, make excuses even, turning themselves into pretzels in the process of explaining why this devil is the right one, for a handful of silver, so to speak. (be accepted on his blog)

    People like him do not change, ideology got them by the curlies.
    Given his age he could have done so by now.
    Anyone can be pleasant and agreeable for a while.”

    Thanks Mark A….and thank you to Mater above…you’ve both articulated by thoughts.

    I’ve asked Monty, on his new site, what he thinks of the Sky News Australia suspension. Anyone who supports/justifies such an act of outrageous and egregious censorship is not to be trusted running a libertarian blog. I note how Mater recalls above, as I do, Monty’s “punch a Nazi”……..which actually just translates to punching anyone with right of centre opinions….and Andrew Bolt has first hand experience of that. In fact I was thinking only yesterday about both Monyt’s “punch a Nazi” disgrace and his description of George Pell.

    And thank you Lizzie for your kind words. Yes I was getting distressed by what Bird was posting so I just decided to stay in the shadows….poor Adam has only had less than a week and he’s doing well. I was distressed about Bird’s usual Jooo hatred…but also the fact that allowing him free reign to post his garbage means it imperils the blog. I’m not the new Doomlord…Adam is…so he has property rights over what’s here…but I would imagine that the likes of Rafe etc wouldn’t want to post here while the likes of Bird are running amok.

    Anyway they’re my thoughts….I really want this site to go great guns!


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  55. Ellen of Tasmania says:

    “Hubby: I really don’t know. I just close my eyes and stop thinking.”
    ………………………….

    It’s called ‘the nothing box’ – “Men’s brains and women’s brains”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ6mVumHY9I


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  56. lotocoti says:

    In one fell swoop, approbation, elevation and castration.
    Yes, Minister Pony Girl.


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  57. DrBeauGan says:

    “Adam D says:
    August 5, 2021 at 7:22 am

    I have smited my first smite in the form of Bird whom broke the no d***head policy. Whilst I didn’t agree with his views it was not so much what they were but the way they were expressed that ultimately cost his fate.”

    Thanks Adam. The poor sod is off his head, and giving him a platform was making him worse.


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  58. H B Bear says:

    Oh & btw the “stolen generation” will receive $75,000 each & an apology.

    That should help the Harvey Norman share price and Toyota sales. Where to move the goalposts to?


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  59. Mother Lode says:

    How’s traffic on your own blog Bird? Less than stellar?

    Many fungi are parasitic, and others saprophytic.

    He will happily gorge on the dead tissues of a blog – he just needs to kill it first.


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  60. Indolent says:

    De Santis is just excellent. Just great.

    He goes after the corrupt demented scumbag in the White House leaving a bloody mess on the floor.

    https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/desantis-spits-fire/
    —————————————————————————————-

    Can someone PLEASE send this to Morrison and Gladys and every single politician in this benighted country! Seriously, does anyone have a group email for these weasels?

    I’m almost frightened to open the Garrison toon each day, it’s simply too close to the bone for comfort.

    https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/biden_scapegoat-768×558.jpg


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  61. H B Bear says:

    Agreed. mUnty doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt.


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  62. rosie says:

    Why is there any contention that a 27 year old who died of/with covid had an underlying health condition?

    Comorbities contributions to covid related deaths have been public knowledge since the get go.

    It’s why most people who die are over 80.

    Get vaxxed if you’re concerned it could be you don’t get vaxxed if you don’t want to.


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  63. Cassie of Sydney says:

    Further to what I wrote above about Monty and his “punch a Nazi” comment, something I’ve never forgotten. None of us like Nazis just like none of us like communists but you don’t encourage physical violence against your ideological opponents….back in January 2017 when the “punch a nazi” meme became popular, during and after Trump’s inauguration, most people dismissed it but I didn’t. All that did was provide a convenient umbrella for the left to pursue anyone with right of centre opinions…and that’s exactly what we’ve seen in the four years since. They’ve also deliberately cheapened the label “Nazi”….so now anyone who disagrees with the left is a “Nazi”. All of this suits the left….smearing their ideological opponents as Nazis works well in shutting down and silencing debate on important issues….such Islaaaaaaaaaaam, immigration, SSM and so on. It is the right who can’t hold conference and gatherings without far-left protesters screaming “Nazi” or “faaaaaar-riiiight” at them…it is right-wing commentators who are regularly smeared as “Nazi” or “faaaaar-riiiiiight”. I could go…..but this is also related to the tech giants and their censoring and shutting down of alternative opinions. Everyone on the right is a Nazi now…it’s a great way of destroying your opposition.


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  64. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Mater, with the anti-Semitism running free here (and, as with paedophlia, I am not sure that mode expression is the only problem if these raise their ugly heads) and with M0nty’s support for lockdowns which I am on a public record (The Great Barrington Declaration) not just a blog record of being against, I was feeling M0nt’s option was the better of two weevils.

    Adam has sanitised this blog now and I applaud that.


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  65. Indolent says:

    De Santis is just excellent. Just great.

    He goes after the corrupt demented scumbag in the White House leaving a bloody mess on the floor.

    https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/desantis-spits-fire/
    —————————————————————————————-

    Can someone PLEASE send this to Morrison and Gladys and every single politician in this benighted country! Seriously, does anyone have a group email for these weasels?


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  66. Gilas says:

    In less than four days, this site is almost… almost like the old one.

    The smiting was the hard part, will be easier in time and with a shared oversight.

    Now for the quick-formatting bars and instant recent comment updates…

    Kudos++ Adam!


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  67. Cassie of Sydney says:

    I still can’t get the bloody italics right….apologies everyone!


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  68. Mater says:

    I was feeling M0nt’s option was the better of two weevils.

    Lizzie,
    Please always remember, Monty will run that site from now until cholesterol clogs his arteries. Bird is merely a commenter, who is smiteable at the push of a button.

    The potential damage of these two weevils aren’t comparable, especially if fatboy’s site becomes the only show in town.


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  69. Enyaw says:

    Mark A , Thanks for the pics ..pong box on wheels ..lol


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  70. custard says:

    Time to find another brand of baked beans for me.

    https://twitter.com/abcnews/status/1423043183835942912?s=21

    SPC mandatory vaccination for employees. Surely illegal?


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  71. Diogenes says:

    For naval cats, Drach has put up a video on HMAS Armidale . Haven’t watched it yet .

    Today take a look at the brief career and sinking of HMAS Armidale, and the efforts thereafter to ensure proper recognition for what was done that day, with an extensive account by the last of the ships crew.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnQ5Z2pJi8s&ab_channel=Drachinifel


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  72. Splatacrobat says:

    When can you add the auto-fill on the name ans email so I don’t have to type it in every time?


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  73. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Decided to have my brekkie before bed. Off now. See ya. 🙂


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  74. Enyaw says:

    Mr B .. A Bolts challenge has never been addressed.


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  75. mh says:

    Lizzie, put the crack pipe down.


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  76. A Lurker says:

    The text below is only a short extract from a longer letter.
    There is more at the link at the bottom of this text, I encourage you to click the link and continue reading it.

    “Directors: Dr Eamonn Mathieson, Dr Mark Hobart and Dr Robert Brennan

    Dear Doctor, Health Professionals and Fellow Australians
    Monday 2nd August 2021

    We, your fellow doctors, write to you motivated only by our concern for the welfare of our patients and the health of our community.

    Every doctor, like any individual, must answer to their own conscience. Doctors in particular must answer to an Oath, the swearing in of which has fallen away, yet not without leaving its spirit alive. This oath was, and is, founded upon “primum non nocere” or “first do no harm”.

    And so this letter is aimed at reminding all doctors of our ethical obligations and to furnish our consciences with information so that none can claim “I did not know” or “I was wrongly advised” or “I was just following orders”.

    The people of Australia face unprecedented, pervasive and coercive “States of Emergency” with severe restrictions to liberty and widespread impacts on health, life and livelihoods. “Flattening the curve” for a few weeks has become 18 months of fear, anxiety and control. Much of it unnecessarily contrived through sensationalist media, failed political leadership that has abrogated its responsibilities to academic and health bureaucrats who appear far removed from the realities and sufferings of ordinary Australians.

    In early 2020, the Australian government, following the example of other countries, and the sudden aboutturn of the World Health Health Organisation (WHO), abandoned long-established and existing pandemic guidelines in favour of enforced lockdowns, mask mandates, mass-testing, digital surveillance, border closures and the quarantining of the healthy. This approach was novel, untested and unprecedented.

    We have had multiple on-again/off-again lockdowns, mask “mandates”, the coercion and mandating of novel and unproven vaccine technology, invasions to privacy in the forms of QR check-in codes and severe economic stress. In the reckless pursuit of the mirage of an unattainable ‘Covid Zero’ state, 400 Australians die every day from all causes. These Australians are dying within a grossly disrupted heath care system and while their loved ones are inhumanely denied the opportunity to properly mourn them.

    Whilst in 2021 to the 23rd of July, we had five registered deaths attributed to Covid 19.

    Put simply, we have focussed on one disease to the exclusion of all others. This global public health experiment has clearly failed, having caused untold harm to literally billions of people.

    A return to long established, evidenced-based pandemic preparedness guidelines must now be urgently sought.

    The collateral damage from lockdowns is clear; significant harm is being inflicted upon humanity, and devastating health and wellbeing across the globe. Vulnerable and disadvantaged communities, and especially children, are paying the highest price. Evidence suggests lockdowns have not reduced mortality from COVID-19, and they provide little benefit over less restrictive measures. In addition, there are grave concerns lockdowns may ultimately result in a longer and more lethal pandemic, with many unforeseen and unintended health consequences.”

    https://www.covidmedicalnetwork.com/open-letters/first-do-no-harm.aspx


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  77. DrBeauGan says:

    M0nty is not my favourite lefty, and he has certainly said plenty of stupid things and plenty of unpleasant things. If you are an intellectual slob and let the collective do your thinking for you, that’s going to happen. I do not think he’s evil nor do I think he’s insane. He’s the sort of halfwit who likes provoking people by putting up opinions to which he has no great commitment just to annoy them. Getting a reaction got him all excited, poor fish.

    I’m quite prepared to post on his site. It is lunatic free, if he keeps his word, I’ll keep visiting, if he breaks it, I’ll drop him. I’m a kindly and charitable man; he’s on probation.


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  78. Sancho Panzer says:

    Where is Mushroom Whisperer postings?


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  79. Ruprecht says:

    “ How some people forget and forgive so quickly, make excuses even, turning themselves into pretzels in the process of explaining why this devil is the right one, for a handful of silver, so to speak. (be accepted on his blog)”

    A lot of what is going on is quite revealing, power struggles, people who love nothing better than the ‘excitement’ of flitting from blog to blog like social butterflies, attention seekers and some I’m afraid with more selfish ends in mind.


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  80. rickw says:

    QF has laid off 2,500 personnel.

    There will be no commercial aviation left in Australia by the time Operation Enduring Stupid has run its course.


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  81. Figures says:

    K2, in response to your question on the previous thread.

    If disease could be spread then nobody would survive a trip to the doctor. Doctors themselves would have the lifespan of a fruitfly – a fruitfly that was into BASE jumping.

    But disease can be shared amongst siblings, classmates, colleagues etc. It usually isn’t but it certainly can be.

    So disease can be shared but it cannot be spread.

    That leaves two candidates for the cause of disease:

    Poisoning and stress (trauma).

    In the case of your army buddies it would have been the latter most likely. Note that the symptoms that we notice tend to come when the stress (trauma) is resolved.

    That’s why colleagues will often get sick at the end of a large project or people often get sick when they go on holidays.

    This seems bizarre until you understand that the (usually unrecognized) symptoms in the active (trauma) phase serve a biological (survival) purpose whereas the (always recognized) healing (post-trauma) phase symptoms are a rebalancing.

    This leaves us with an understanding of everything disease related without having to guess or make up stuff to fit the narrative.

    The length and severity of the “disease” (ie the healing phase) will be directly determined by the length and severity of the preceding trauma.


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  82. Tintarella di Luna says:

    A Lurker says:
    August 5, 2021 at 8:30 am

    Thanks for putting this up I read about this organisation and these doctors in relation to the Brazilian young woman who died for lack of treatment or died from treatment that actually killed her. The family had reached out to this organisation but by the time the form-filling and permissions etc… were done it was too late.

    I hope the family of that young woman sues the ‘health professionals’ for medical negligence because IMHO this young woman died needlessly. Then under oath we can get the Chantery to attest to what actions were/weren’t taken and why

    I donated on Monday to this organisation and have emailed them about my personal situation and have alerted my family to my wishes.


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  83. DrBeauGan says:

    ““ How some people forget and forgive so quickly, make excuses even, turning themselves into pretzels in the process of explaining why this devil is the right one, for a handful of silver, so to speak. (be accepted on his blog)”

    I don’t feel grateful to m0nty for accepting me on his blog. I feel he should be grateful to me for posting. But I’m like that. Big hearted.


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  84. mh says:

    Indolent says:
    August 5, 2021 at 8:12 am
    De Santis is just excellent. Just great.

    He goes after the corrupt demented scumbag in the White House leaving a bloody mess on the floor.

    https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/desantis-spits-fire/

    ***
    It’s good to know a state with over 21 million people has a leader with such clarity of thought and a backbone. So different to our scum representatives.


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  85. Boambee John says:

    Been lurking for a while, but this seems to be a good note on which to re-enter the fray.

    Via Mater:

    m0nty
    #2275181, posted on January 26, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    yes, it is always correct to punch Nazis. They lost the right to not be punched in the face when they started spouting genocidal ideologies that in living memory killed millions upon millions of people.

    Yet munty (the fat fascist fool) has consistently refused to condemn the crimes of communism, which murdered and committed genocide against far more people than the Nazis/fascists ever killed.

    Hope my formatting works!


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  86. Gilas says:

    Sancho Panzer says:
    August 5, 2021 at 8:31 am

    Where is Mushroom Whisperer postings?

    You’re not fooling anyone, sock.
    Lift your game!


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  87. Figures says:

    “I could go…..but this is also related to the tech giants and their censoring and shutting down of alternative opinions. Everyone on the right is a Nazi now…it’s a great way of destroying your opposition.”

    Yes Cassie. I saw a good picture that explains the situation. Ban the so-called “far-right” and that just means the people who are still allowed to speak aren’t very right wing at all. But of course, relative to the acceptable discourse, there are now some people who are “far-right” and so therefore should be banned. And so on and so on until the only discussion you are allowed to have is whether there are 80 genders or 80 million.

    Jesse Kelly is another one who saw this. None of the “respectable” libertarian institutions like Cato or Reason did. Neither did Trump unfortunately.

    What a tragedy about Trump. He was oh so close to being one of the greatest ever presidents but instead will go down in history as the guy who handed the US over on a silver platter to communists.

    He trusted Zuckerberg and Dorsey and, worse, he trusted doctors. And now Western civilisation is collapsing because of it.


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