Open Thread – Saturday, 30 October 2021

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  1. cohenite says:

    Lame pics courtesy of the inestimable Mark A:

    https://imgur.com/a/K6pgEEb


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  2. mh says:

    ‘Another day, another professional soccer player has an on-field cardiac arrest
    Alex Berenson Nov 2

    This time in Norway. His name is Emil Palsson; he’s 28, and Icelandic. No report on whether he is vaccinated, but Iceland has near-complete adult vaccinations; 84% of people 16-29 are fully vaccinated.

    Same situation as Christian Eriksen. Palsson collapsed and his crisis was obvious immediately.

    He was rushed to a hospital; let’s all keep him in our thoughts.

    I have a feeling this is going to happen in a way that makes it impossible to hide – an NBA or NFL game or Premier League match.’


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  3. mh says:

    BBC

    ‘A football match in Norway was stopped on Monday because of a player suffering cardiac arrest on the pitch.

    Icelandic midfielder Emil Palsson, who is on loan at Norwegian second division side Sogndal from top flight Sarpsborg 08, was taken ill after 12 minutes of the first half against Stjordals-Blink.

    In a statement, the club said the 28-year-old was “successfully resuscitated”.

    Palsson was then flown to a nearby hospital for further treatment.

    In June, Denmark midfielder Christian Eriksen, 29, collapsed because of cardiac arrest during his country’s Euro 2020 game against Finland and had life-saving treatment on the pitch.

    He later had an a implantable cardioverter defibrillator device – a type of pacemaker – fitted.

    On Saturday, former Manchester City striker Sergio Aguero was taken to hospital for tests after suffering “chest discomfort” as Barcelona drew 1-1 against Alaves in La Liga.

    Following cardiological tests, the 33-year-old has been ruled out for three months and will receive treatment while his health is monitored.’
    ***
    So footballer heart attacks on the pitch do get covered by the MSM.
    It will be interesting to see how these stories end up getting spun.


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  4. mh says:

    🚨🚨🚨

    ‘Cleo Smith was alone inside a locked Carnarvon house when police broke in and rescued her early this morning but police will not say precisely what led them there. A man is in custody.’


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  5. Black Ball Black Ball says:

    Youngkin defeats McAuliffe?


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  6. mh says:

    Ron DeSantis
    @GovRonDeSantis
    Paying illegal immigrants hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars for “damages” is a slap in the face to hardworking Americans and individuals who legally immigrated to our country.

    https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1455271421052129285?s=20


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  7. Black Ball Black Ball says:

    Lolly Kingdom is good Muddy


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  8. Shy Ted says:

    The vax deaths caused by 5% off the batches is interesting. But VAERS data is so backed up and the best guess is only 1% reported anyway I reckon it’ll be a reporting problem in the end. Some areas will be better reporters than other areas. Like in the real world.
    Anyway, got to attend a protest. Don’t get any ideas.


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  9. egg_ says:

    Paying illegal immigrants hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars for “damages” is a slap in the face to hardworking Americans and individuals who legally immigrated to our country.

    Erbie Dingo always belting on about “black fellas” this “black fellas” that.
    Is this “First Nations”* shite insulting to African immigrants?
    Talk about divisive rot, but a good earner what, Ernie, with your blonde white wife – the apex for a “black fella” like Adam Goodes, Irishman?

    *Imported from the Canadian Inuit industry.


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  10. egg_ says:

    ‘A football match in Norway was stopped on Monday because of a player suffering cardiac arrest on the pitch.

    Headline: Frankenvax Fells Athletes by the Dozen

    /Alternate Universe to the present Clown Universe


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  11. egg_ says:

    ‘Scott Morrison said he’ll allow the same number of replacement staff into Australia on expedited immigration arrangements to cover the gap.’

    Scummo sh1tting on Grig’s dissenting ‘Elf colleagues – the shame!


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  12. Black Ball Black Ball says:

    The way Patrick Mahomes is going egg, he is suffering effects of da vax.


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  13. Steve trickler says:

    Check this out from the WA.GOV. Is this even legal? If the parents tick no, the student then can make informed consent. F8cking BS!

    Legal Guardian or Legal Substitute Decision-maker details.

    I am the patients legal guardian or legal substitute decision-maker and agree to Covid-19 vaccination of the patient named above

    Tick Yes or No.

    Where is box that says?

    I am the patients legal guardian or legal substitute decision maker and do NOT agree to have the Covid-19 vaccination of the patient named above

    Tick Yes or NO

    ??

    Freedom Media WA

    McGowan’s School Injection Program – YOUR Kids – His Mandate.


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  14. Steve trickler says:

    The wording is deceptive…deliberately so.

    McGowan is a prick.


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  15. egg_ says:

    Erbie Dingo always belting on about “black fellas” this “black fellas” that.
    Is this “First Nations”* shite insulting to African immigrants?

    I personally know of African immigrants who admire colonial British architecture and whom dwell in same; Indians same.

    Our Aboriginal Industry rails against same – those who seek to better themselves vs the lowbrow-rent-a-crowd.

    DNA wise is not the path of migration Africa-Europe-Asia?

    But we of better resources are the most developed and not stuck in a medieval mindset.

    Biologists are saying what separates us from the Great Apes is not our capacity, as a society, for violence but our capacity for low reactive violence – tolerance.
    Sh1tholers have a medieval mindset – self and family before society?
    “What is ‘Society'”, per Maggie Thatcher.


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  16. mh says:

    If soccer players keep having heart attacks on the pitch I may have to start watching the world game.

    But I guess some players will begin faking it.


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  17. Delta A says:

    “Check this out from the WA.GOV. Is this even legal?”
    Same is happening at Grandies’ school.
    Daughter has stipulated that she DOES NOT want them jabbed. And, because she doesn’t trust any ‘authority’ these days, she’s keeping the kids home on the vaccination days.
    Kids are rapt about that.


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  18. mh says:

    ‘The Fox News Decision Desk can now project that Republican Glenn Youngkin will win the gubernatorial race in Virginia, defeating former Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe in a statewide election with national implications that McAuliffe was once expected to win.’

    Let’s go Brandon!


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  19. Muddy says:

    Black Ball says:
    November 3, 2021 at 12:32 pm

    Lolly Kingdom is good Muddy

    Thanks, Black Ball. I’m assuming that’s our secret code?
    (I have checked out Lolly Kingdom online: Mmmmm, sugarrrrr *Insert Homer Simpson throat gurgle* I’m desperately trying to cut down my sugar intake though).


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  20. Top Ender says:

    Australia needs nuclear submarines now, not later

    By Top Ender

    In the debate which has ensued since the federal government decided not to continue with the French submarine contract, it has become increasingly apparent the general public is wiser than anyone about what’s best for this country.

    The tide of opinion is not only for nuclear, but for nuclear now.

    Talk that Australia will get nuclear attack boats in 10 or 20 years is widely seen as ridiculous. Talk that they will be built here is also seen as foolish. We have spent $2.4bn on the French project and got precisely nothing – no plan, and no submarine. What the general public wants is the deterrent of the most effective submarines right away.

    That the western Pacific is a potential battlespace is obvious. Obvious too is the fact that a deterrent of nuclear submarines, submerged once they leave port, would be the best bet for this country. This is the right way to bolster a defence force left neglected for far too long.

    So what to do? There are two solutions available, and money will solve the problem. Ironically it would be a lot less than the $150 billion the French contract would have cost, only to give us inferior diesel-electric vessels in a decade and more. The answer lies in injecting cash into the production lines of either the Astute or the Virginia hunter-killer submarines being built by Britain and the USA.

    These are the best boats to buy. They have a proven pedigree from two of the best navies on the planet. They are both in production now. Defence Minister Dutton – the most decisive defence minister we have had in decades – could and should take the national chequebook over to our allies, and ask nicely for the production lines to be paralleled or speeded up. And we’d like the first one in a year, not a decade.

    Which to buy? Both have proven pedigrees, unlike the weird concept of having the French take an existing nuclear submarine, rip the engines out, and instead install diesels and batteries; fuel tanks and snort masts. The Virginias and Astutes are nuclear boats designed to go deep and stay there, and once they leave port not to come up to run engines to recharge batteries – the diesel-electric concept of “snorting” born in World War II. Nuclear vessels stay down, and their deterrence increases by the day as they do, for the enemy does not know where they are, and must guard his ports and his surface vessels accordingly, thus slowly constricting his own operations for fear of sudden attack out of the depths.

    A glance at the figures is instructive.

    Astute
    7,700 tons
    Crew: 98
    Armament: Torpedo; Torpedo tube launch Tomahawk missiles; Mines
    Range and endurance: Unlimited
    First built: 2001
    Number planned: 7
    Number produced: 5
    Cost: $2.25b US

    Virginia
    Size: 11,200 tons
    Crew: 35
    Armament: Torpedo; Vertical launch Tomahawk missiles; Mines
    Range and endurance: Unlimited
    First built: 2000
    Number planned: 66
    Number produced: 19
    Cost: $3.45bn US

    Given the smaller size of the Astute, and the need for the Royal Australian Navy to transition out of the smaller Collins-class it operates at present, the British option presents attraction there. It’s also less expensive.

    However, these days we train and fight more with the Americans. It has been that way since WWII, since both of us have the Pacific as our main interest. Better to have commonality with our main ally.

    The British Astutes have been individually produced over around 10 years, from “laying down” a keel to being in the water in service. The Virginias are much faster into ready use, at three or sometimes even two years. Rumours fly thick and fast in this debate, with one arguing the Americans “need” all of their vessels. But with a much bigger US class of 66 under construction as opposed to seven British boats that might be less likely than not. Maybe we could ask for USS Iowa of the present six on the slips – not so much to elbow into the queue as inquire if the speed can be increased to satisfy both US and Australian navies. Then again, an Aussie politician lugging a chest of gold behind him might well speed up a British assembly line.

    The idea that defence force build processes are slow isn’t necessarily true, although the build process for the French submarines was laughable. Announced in 2016, not a metre of steel had been cut when they were cancelled five years later. Perhaps the most admirable naval build record of all time was the construction of the mighty HMS Dreadnought, the battleship than revolutionized naval thinking prior to the Great War. Laid down in 1905, only 15 months later this 527 foot 18,000 ton monster was sailing. The British public had demanded “eight, and we won’t wait” – so should we. Other feats of naval engineering show mighty achievements may be made. The Kreigsmarine – the German Navy – of WWII, had 1,156 submarines built through the war years. The US Navy, following the Battle of the Coral Sea, had the aircraft carrier USS Yorktown repaired over several days for the coming fight at Midway – a fix that had been estimated at three months. The Australian public should not be told that we can’t have nuclear submarines quickly.

    Although the Virginia is the preferred design, at least for this writer, we should go with whoever can give us nuclear boats the faster. We need to go and ask whichever government – and whichever company – will get us in the sea sooner. For we are in a situation now where we need deterrence if we don’t want to fight. Sun Tsu said the greatest victory is that which requires no battle. Knowing there were two to three Australian nuclear attack submarines possibly lurking off your coast would certainly make an aggressor think in terms of peace. For Tomahawks, the best cruise missile there is, attack targets on the land as well as at sea.

    -o-o-O-o-o-

    Top Ender is a military historian. His 2020 book Atomic Salvation has proved the necessity of using the A-Bombs in WWII, and his recent biography of Teddy Sheean VC has received critical acclaim.


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  21. Top Ender says:

    Crew of the Virginia should be 135; typo when I converted the table to text for this blog.


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  22. Muddy says:

    Interesting article, thanks Top Ender.

    What am I missing in the difference between crew numbers though? The British boat is smaller, but has a much larger crew?


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  23. Top Ender says:

    And 31 minutes ago in the Oz:

    US has capacity to supply Aussie nuclear subs, says congressman Joe Courtney

    EXCLUSIVE
    ADAM CREIGHTON
    WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT

    The chairman of the US congress’s seapower committee has dismissed as “very unfair” concerns American shipyards are too busy to supply nuclear-powered submarines to Australia, arguing extra orders could help lift industrial capacity back towards Cold War levels.

    Democrat representative Joe Courtney said he was “very confident there will be capacity when the demand signal is out there”, amid speculation the British, with greater production slack, will end up with the lion’s share of contracts to build at least eight ­nuclear-powered submarines under the AUKUS security pact.

    “If you go back to the 1980s and 1990s, we were building four ­Attack submarines a year,” Mr Courtney, who is also co-chairman of the Friends of Australia caucus, told The Australian.

    “In 2007 the subs workforce here was around 7000; now it’s 18,000.” He added that it was around double that level again during the Cold War.


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  24. Good stuff, TE.

    If the Japanese were in the mix, how would their boat compare?


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  25. Barking Toad says:

    Thanks for your piece Top Ender.

    Does our current government have the balls to timely force this issue?

    It took 5 years to fuck off the lunatic French project.


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  26. Muddy says:

    From Cohenite’s Mark A pics link of this morning:

    Dude distracts snake on his lap.

    (Could have been worse, I suppose. A Labor pollie, for example).


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  27. FlyingPigs says:

    Top Ender says:
    November 3, 2021 at 7:16 pm

    Australia needs nuclear submarines now, not later

    By Top Ender

    Thank you for ‘penning’ that TE.

    Hopefully Dutton can get it done.


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  28. FlyingPigs says:

    And I do not see a problem with ‘manning’ nuclear subs.

    Hopefully Australia is already rotating crew through British and American Nuclear Submarine fleets.


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  29. Muddy says:

    Posted my crew query before I saw your correction.


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  30. FlyingPigs says:

    @Farmer Gez

    Totally agree.

    Tamie Fraser nee Beggs was/is a class above Malcolm Fraser.


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  31. cohenite says:

    Virginia gone to the GOP with a clean sweep in the state looking likely. Still over 49% voted demorat. 49 fucking %. These people don’t have brains, they have dog turds between their ears.

    Also close is the NJ governor race


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  32. mh says:

    The Oz spins it:

    Virginia delivers a slap to Trump
    Proof a conventional Republican, with zero name recognition, can win a major state on the strength of a good campaign alone.

    ADAM CREIGHTON
    Washington Correspondent


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  33. Barking Toad says:

    Virginia gone to the GOP

    Let’s Go Brandon!


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  34. mh says:

    So an aboriginal abducted Cleo then?


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  35. FlyingPigs says:

    and TE

    thank you for your service.


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  36. cohenite says:

    The Oz spins it:

    Virginia delivers a slap to Trump
    Proof a conventional Republican, with zero name recognition, can win a major state on the strength of a good campaign alone.

    ADAM CREIGHTON
    Washington Correspondent

    adam creighton is a kunt.


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  37. Top Ender says:

    Re the Japanese submarine query…excellent boats, as are German.

    But I really think only nuclears will do us. Preferably off an overseas production line already running. For God’s sake don’t say we’ll build it here and “modify it for our conditions”.


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  38. mh says:

    If the GOP had lost, the Oz would be saying:

    ‘Republican loss in Virginia confirms the party needs to move on from the Trump era’


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  39. candy says:

    Virginia delivers a slap to Trump
    ***
    Surely a slap to Trump would be if the Democrats won, indicating voters thought Biden was the right man and no regrets.


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  40. mh says:

    ‘When mob rule dictates that we must all cheer a male homecoming queen, it’s clear that society is close to collapse’

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/539081-male-homecoming-queen-society/


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  41. Steve trickler says:

    Excellent travel vlog ( a lot of crap ones on sussietube ) from this South African bloke.👍

    31:43

    Kurt Kaz.

    Towards the end of my stay I decided to stay in a floating lodge about a 25 minute speedboat ride away from Iquitos.
    In total it cost me $203 with breakfast included.
    Great service and friendly people who have now become friends.
    This is not an advertisement for them but if you would like to stay there, it is called Amazon Oasis Lodge.
    This video is a little bit different and more relaxed than the previous ones…

    $200 Floating Hotel In The Amazon 🇵🇪


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  42. cohenite says:

    Led by EU and AUKUS dreamers, they destroy reliable energy from coal, oil, nuclear, gas and hydro while forcing us to subsidise net-negative dreams like solar, wind, wave-power, CCUS, hot rocks, pumped hydro and hydrogen.

    All such speculative ventures should be funded by speculators, not taxpayers.

    COP-Out-26 illustrates to the realists of China, Russia, India and Brazil that the West has lost its marbles and is in terminal decline.

    For Scott Morrison to surrender Australia to these green wolves betrays an army of miners, farmers, truckies and workers in primary, secondary and tertiary industries that support him and his Canberra pack.

    The fakery of COP-Out-26 is well illustrated by the provision of diesel generators to recharge the batteries of 26 electric cars provided for show in Glasgow. But that’s OK “because the diesels are run on recycled chip fat”.

    Horses and covered wagons would be more reliable and appropriate and dried horse manure could cook their fake meat on their green, chip-fired barbeques.

    Neither EU nor AUKUS green dreamers can run their world on energy plans drafted by neurotic school girls, clueless Princes, deluded accountants like Ross Garnaut or serial climate alarmists like David Attenborough.

    China loves Net-Zero, using its growing coal power to manufacture the wind turbines, solar panels, electric engines and rare earth batteries for the Woke-World.

    But the subsidy tap feeding green energy development in the Western world will run dry. Fake energy will fade away leaving a continent of jobless people with silent mills, refineries and factories.

    Our land will be littered with derelict windmills, decaying solar panels, dead batteries and sagging transmission lines to be cleaned up in order to restore our land to productive grasslands, crops and forests.

    Those huge concrete bases of abandoned wind towers will become permanent obstacles to restoration of this land. Next we will see digital carbon-credit cards designed by green academics to ration our energy and food usage to achieve their Net-Zero Nirvana.

    A bleak future beckons.

    https://richardsonpost.com/vivforbes/24130/the-last-cop-out-australian-pm-should-stay-home/


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  43. FlyingPigs says:

    I see South Africa wanting money for Net-Zero.

    I thought they had already achieved nothing.


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  44. Steve trickler says:

    Things you learn. Impressive as always, from THG.

    ********

    The History Guy.

    On May 4, 1917, one of the strangest air and sea battles in history took place in the North Sea in a fight so desperate that both sides literally fired until they ran out of ammunition.

    Cruisers vs Zeppelin: HMAS Sydney and HMS Dublin vs L 43, 1917


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  45. mh says:

    ‘Family support workers warned a toddler was at risk just months before he was left with lifelong disabilities after his mother spent five hours in a Melbourne pokies venue while he was locked in her car on a scorching summer’s day.

    The 34-year-old mother pleaded guilty in the County Court of Victoria on Wednesday to negligently causing serious injury to her son, then 14 months old, after she left him alone in a car outside The Brook gaming venue at Point Cook on January 15, 2020…’
    ***
    This was the story the media sweetened by changing facts, such as the ‘pokies venue’ became ‘bingo hall’.
    Because vag.


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