Open Thread – Saturday, 30 October 2021

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  1. candy says:

    You’ve got to wonder why ICAC can divulge personal texts unless they are 100% definite evidence of corruption. And why are they recording personal telephone conversations in the first place and who gave them that power. It must put her in an embarrassing position. Different for a bloke who can laugh it off and so on, but she’s unmarried lady with elderly parents living and aware of the ICAC proceedings.

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  2. Muddy says:

    Black Ball.

    I can only wait until Adam has the opportunity to check his email and pass my message to you. Once we both have each other’s contact details, the conversation can be freer.

    As you will note when reading what I have forwarded, I lean towards a less-direct approach, which may not interest you. There is a reason for it which I can explain in the future if so desired.

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  3. kaysee kaysee says:

    Irish Quandary: Who to Blame When Everyone’s Vaxxed?

    In the Republic of Ireland, however, health officials are running out of people to blame. This has become embarrassingly obvious in County Waterford. As reported in the Irish Times, the nation’s establishment newspaper, two of the three most COVID-infected electoral areas in Ireland are located in the county “with the highest rate of vaccination in the country.” In Waterford, a remarkable 99.7 percent of adults over the age of 18 is fully vaccinated.

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  4. Muddy says:

    In Waterford, a remarkable 99.7 percent of adults over the age of 18 is fully vaccinated.

    I’d call that figure suspicious, rather than remarkable.

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  5. kaysee kaysee says:

    ✼✿✼ November ✼✿ ✼

    For all those having a birthday this month,
    Wishes for you …………


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  6. FlyingPigs says:

    You Libs Made Your Cesspool, Now Float In It
    Kurt Schlichter
    Posted: Nov 01, 2021 12:01 AM

    The cities are devolving into chaos, and perhaps that’s good – people too dumb to learn from experience or from those who know better have to learn from something, and if that’s pain, well, pain’s a great teacher.

    But the city dwellers choose to live like they do. It’s democracy in action. They voted for chaos, and they should suffer for it appropriately.

    If they want a society where fellow citizens save others from criminals, they will vote accordingly. Until then, they will get what they voted for – and what they deserve.

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  7. Black Ball says:

    Flying Pigs that could well be on the cards once admin here has time to allow contact details to be shared. Actually excited now

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  8. Muddy says:

    Oh. My. Funky. Donkey.
    A red haired woman who can handle a sword.
    So much fantasy, so little time.

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  9. Muddy says:

    A Polish female singing quartet doing Metallica?
    This lacks bass, but otherwise it’s an interesting homage. Decent visuals.

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  10. mh says:

    ‘Big emitters kill off summit hopes
    India, Brazil, China and Russia ­appear to have scuppered the chances of major progress at this week’s Glasgow climate change conference.’

    FFS Morrison. Come home before you do any more damage to Australia.

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  11. cohenite says:

    Scomo is a skilled retail pollie, which means he can talk shit at the drop of a hat. His presso tonight about the frog shits was very smooth and was a diplomatic fuck off to the frogs.

    The big issue is who is putting the weights on him. The grub biden and that cockhead boris are obvious international choices; but at home who has him by the balls?

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  12. FlyingPigs says:

    Who Eventually Won the Cold War?

    Pause for a minute to recall the recent past: Did the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff unlawfully intervene in the chain of command to reroute decisions of nuclear weapon readiness through himself? Did he really contact his Chinese Communist counterpart to promise him that China would be warned of possible U.S. aggression?

    Did the lead medical authority on America’s COVID-19 pandemic, Dr. Anthony Fauci, deny under oath the fact that he routed U.S. aid money, through a third party, to the ground-zero Wuhan virology lab to enhance gain-of-function viral research?

    Did Attorney General Merrick Garland sic the FBI on parents complaining about critical race theory—on the concocted accusation from a school board group, in part cooked up with White House staffer help, that the parents were likely “domestic terrorists”?

    Did we really spend 22 months and $40 million chasing the “Russian collusion” hoax, a myth ginned up by the left-wing media and its enablers in the FBI and CIA?

    Does the public really believe our current ministry of information that the “border is closed”? Or that high gas prices are good? Or that empty shelves reflect strong demand and will result in a more mature public no longer needing to buy superfluous goods?

    Or that spiraling inflation is proof of a strong economy? Or that the road to the Kabul airport was open to anyone with a U.S. passport who wished to leave? Or that the accidental U.S. drone killing of a family in Kabul was a “righteous strike”?

    Or that Russians and Trump operatives created a fake lost Hunter Biden laptop, as our former intelligence officials implied on the eve of the election?

    Since when did the government and the now state media issue such serial lies? When did we begin to resemble our old Cold War enemies—to the delight of our current enemies?
    Commissars and Culturalists

    In the ancient days of the Cold War, the United States relied on its open society, political tolerance, the Bill of Rights, and meritocracy to outproduce and out-arm both the far larger Soviet Union, and Red China.

    In other words, the Soviet commissariat and ideological watchdogs of Communism were drags on Russian and Chinese research and development. Apparatchiks were not only unproductive but expensive. They even hampered the pursuit of science if they believed it challenged the monopoly of Marxist-Leninist ideology and control.

    In the case of Mao’s Zedong’s Cultural Revolution, Communist China destroyed entire cadres of scientific and intellectual research teams for generations by unleashing the Red Guards who applied Orwellian revolutionary litmus tests to the most productive elements of society. And they usually found them worthy of death, imprisonment, or forced nonexistence for their supposed lack of correct Maoist fervor—as proven by reading the wrong books, wearing the wrong clothes, saying the wrong slogans, or belonging to the wrong faction.

    At the end of the Cold War, the crumbling Soviet Union still had a population 40 million larger than that of America, and an area over twice as large, with greater natural resources. Yet after initial disarmament and confusion in the immediate postwar era, the United States throughout the ensuing 40 years of the Cold War consistently out-produced the Soviet Union and fielded more sophisticated and high-tech weaponry, as it enjoyed a far more innovative higher-education system and corporate sector.

    The same disparities held true of Red China. Beijing was never able to leverage its much larger population (some 850,000 million larger then than the United States in 1989), and similar area, to threaten America militarily, technologically, or economically. Again, rigid ideological censorship, indoctrination, and coercion spelled the doom of both Communist behemoths. In both, mediocre and politically correct lackeys rose to positions of influence, while the unorthodox, innovative, individualistic, and outspoken talents were deemed enemies of the revolution, of the people, and especially of the ruling apparat.

    In contrast, the United States even welcomed countercultural and idiosyncratic capitalists—from the wacky founder of CNN Ted Turner to the unorthodox Nebraska investor Warren Buffet to the loner Steve Jobs of Apple. SAT and ACT college-entrance standardized tests were seen as meritocratic. They were envisioned as a balance to toady letters of recommendations, wealth and status, or grade inflation and distortions, and thus helped ensure talented undergraduates from all walks of life.

    Whereas in the Soviet and Maoist systems, large swaths of public discourse were off-limits—curbing not just free expression but inhibiting science, history, art, literature, music, and religion—in the former United States, citizens spoke freely about anything and assumed that their talent and hard work could trump even the ideological, ethnic, racial, religious and class prejudices of the ruling classes.

    The result was that postwar American universities surpassed their global hostile counterparts in almost every field of research. When lazy corporations and unions squandered their postwar global prominence, natural self-criticism and self-reflection ensured more innovative successors who quickly regained advantages over their 1980s Japanese and German economic rivals—who had been deemed for a time during the Carter era as the real winners of World War II.

    No longer.

    Most American universities are now madly rushing to institutionalize expensive, unproductive, and dangerous commissars to warp research, restrict free speech, and monitor instruction and expression. They are euphemistically deemed diversity, equity, and inclusion administrators and human relations directors. Like French Jacobins, Russian Bolsheviks, and Chinese Maoists they justify their anti-Enlightenment and totalitarian means by their supposedly exalted ends of “equity.”
    Maoist Woke

    A social media lynch mob, born and bred in America, equates incorrect thought with felonious behavior. Our online American Red Guards act as judge, jury, and executioner canceling out careers and lives in the manner of a virtual online gulag—in hopes of deterring all incorrect thought and expression. Ministries of the U.S. government sic the FBI, as if it is the KGB, on incorrect expression at school board hearings. The IRS both targets and exempts the elite on the basis of ideology. The CIA and Pentagon are likewise weaponized, as attuned to the dictates of social justice ministers at home as thwarting enemies abroad.

    In the culture at large, the way movies are reviewed, books are rated, and universities calibrated so often hinges on the apparent degree of wokeist adherence. As in the Soviet and Maoist systems that likewise in multifaceted ways destroyed meritocracy, so too engineers, researchers, CEOs, mavericks, innovators, writers, artists, and musicians now calibrate their own career trajectories in terms of whether they will satisfy or offend critical race theory, green, or identity politics commissars. The Communist Chinese put dunce caps on professors and political operatives deemed counterrevolutionaries; we simply dox, cancel, ostracize, and shout them down or drive them off campuses.

    Note how the United States, in its woke reinvention, is doing its best to stifle creativity, free expression, and scientific and social research by applying ideological parameters and doling out political rewards and punishments for right and wrong thinking.

    Does anyone really believe that Governor Andrew Cuomo (D-N.Y.)—serial sexual harasser and virtual killer of thousands of elderly who were the victims of his insane policy of transferring the COVID-infected into rest homes—deserved an Emmy award for his talents?

    Or was it his daily anti-Trump agitprop and race and gender virtue-signaling that delighted his Hollywood aficionados? Can a comedian still joke about anything he pleases, a professor lecture without fear of disruption, or a CEO publicly doubt critical race theory?

    As we learned from the impoverishment of the Soviet Union and Maoist China, eventually the ideological pandemic results in poverty in the streets. Or in our current terms, nine months of constant woke bullying and government ideological recalibration really do result in internecine racial animus, empty shelves, sky-high gasoline and natural gas prices, stagflation, soaring debt, high labor non-participation, military mediocrity, international humiliation, and a national state of fear and paranoia.

    Are our law and medical schools admitting students on the basis of their GPAs, test scores, and recommendations? Or do they assume that ideology, race, gender, and ethnicity will better serve their own ideological rather than meritocratic agendas?

    Do we hire K-12 administrators on the basis of their proven records of improving student test scores, and upping graduate rates while avoiding grade inflation, or on the criteria of their own appearance and proper vocabulary of woke activism?

    Do the COVID-19 public-health policies of Admiral Rachel Levine, or the administrative talents of Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg in solving supply-chain hold-ups, define their media coverage, or do we hear more about their sexual identification and status?

    Will we soon issue “The Hero of the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Revolution” medals?
    The New Vladimir Warns Us
    About the Old Vladimir?

    Notice how both the former Soviet Union and the former Maoist Chinese are reacting to our own regressions into systems that they once embraced, but finally discarded when they resulted only in poverty, civil strife, and ultimately mass death.

    Autocrat Vladimir Putin, smiling as the Cheshire Cat, recently lectured America on its bizarre regression into racial tribalism, ideological intolerance, and cultural revolutionary nihilism. Putin surreally assumed the role of the all-knowing “I warned you” truth-teller, as he compared 2021 America to his own former Soviet Union.

    So, he acted delighted that such wokeism might do to the United States what Sovietism once did to his Mother Russia—creating the Orwellian conditions that can only lead to implosion—while bashing illiberal Americans as if they were the natural descendants of Bolsheviks. Indeed, Putin managed somehow both to wish us well in our headlong descent into Hell and to virtue signal his moral superiority and greater historical insight:

    The advocates of so-called ‘social progress’ believe they are introducing humanity to some kind of a new and better consciousness. Godspeed, hoist the flags as we say, go right ahead.

    It may come as a surprise to some people, but Russia has been there already. After the 1917 revolution, the Bolsheviks, relying on the dogmas of Marx and Engels, also said that they would change existing ways and customs and not just political and economic ones, but the very notion of human morality and the foundations of a healthy society. The destruction of age-old values, religion and relations between people, up to and including the total rejection of family (we had that, too), encouragement to inform on loved ones—all this was proclaimed progress and, by the way, was widely supported around the world back then and was quite fashionable, same as today.

    There is nothing like an old Bolshevik grinning that ossified American wokesters are stuck circa 1920s in the old Bolshevik Russia.
    Racist Chinese Love Racist Wokeism

    China just about every month displays some new sort of frightening strategic weapon or boasts of yet another stratagem of destroying Taiwan. Meanwhile, at about the same pace, our defense secretary, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, chief of naval operations, or CENTCOM generals offer another reassurance that Afghan refugees arrive in correct gender ratios and with culturally sensitive food awaiting them, or that advocates of white supremacy and white privilege are systematically being rooted out of the military, or the military is busy fighting climate change and white rage.

    So, the new Communist-state capitalist Chinese naturally gloat over our wokeness. Whereas a Putin sees fundamentalist diversity, equity, inclusion religion as suicidal Bolshevism worthy of celebration, the Chinese are more adroit. They prefer not to mock but to tap into what they see as our fatal strategic disadvantages. In other words, rather than boasting that even the former Soviet Union is tired of destructive ideological wokeism, Beijing eggs it on—albeit in America.

    During the COVID-19 pandemic that China likely birthed—even if accidentally—and helped to spread, the Chinese hierarchy replied to any criticism with accusations of “racism!” An accusatory China was hardly shamed that it is one of the most racist countries in the world and institutionally discriminates against non-atheists and the non-Han Chinese residing in its midst. Instead, Chinese propagandists brilliantly egg on U.S. wokeism in the surety that it is both weakening the economic, military, and political sinews of the country, and useful in deflecting its own racist, imperialist, and colonialist policies by accusing America of just those sins.

    Are we supposed to treat seriously charges of racism from an accuser that has incarcerated in forced labor camps over 1 million Uighur Muslims, and yet annually sends over 300,000 of its brightest and most privileged Chinese youth to American universities where supposedly they would be targets of racist Americans?

    The chairman of the Joint Chiefs either hated his former president so much or was so enthralled or terrified by his Communist Chinese military counterparts, that he called them to reassure them that the U.S. military would warn them beforehand should Trump consider any preemptive action directed at China. After that, China likely felt it had already won the propaganda war.

    Beijing interprets such naïve American magnanimity as weakness to be exploited and hardly to be reciprocated in kind. It is assured that no Chinese leader would ever act so foolhardy as to send his American counterpart any such reassurance. It grows even more supercilious that while Mark Milley would rightly never warn Putin ahead of time about any supposedly lunatic move by Donald Trump, the four-star general will fall all over himself in appeasing the Chinese, who in the narrow terms of their nuclear stockpile are a small threat compared to Moscow’s nukes.

    In a strange transference of domestic witch-hunting to foreign policy, the American woke detested the Russians in a way they never did the Communist Chinese. And yet by any fair measure, Trump was harder on the Russians than was any prior administration. But according to woke party lines, he was considered soft on Russia and excessively hard on China.

    China, to take one example, was able to warp Hollywood enough to demand whiter actors for its huge domestic market, while Russians were the favorite tattooed, oligarchic, and orthodox villains of most Hollywood spy movies. So, stereotyping and hating Russian belligerents became patriotic while doing the same to the wealthier Chinese was racism.

    Why the asymmetry in appeasing one totalitarian threat and ignoring the other? Was it the greater assets of China and thus our elites’ greater chances to get rich with them? Was it because however dictatorial and murderous the Chinese may be, they were still “the Other” and thus de facto victims of the American oppressor class?

    The Cold War has been over for over 30 years. But who really won that war of ideas may be the real question of the new millennium.

    After all, America is now seeking to emulate the crude modalities of the old Soviet Union and Maoist China that the now-gleeful autocratic Russians and Chinese at least realize nearly destroyed them.

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  13. FlyingPigs says:

    cohenite says:
    November 1, 2021 at 10:25 pm

    Scomo is a skilled retail pollie, which means he can talk shit at the drop of a hat. His presso tonight about the frog shits was very smooth and was a diplomatic fuck off to the frogs.

    The big issue is who is putting the weights on him. The grub biden and that cockhead boris are obvious international choices; but at home who has him by the balls?

    Photias, UN and WEF.

    Not forgetting The Cormorant at the OECD.

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  14. mh says:

    So who is backing QLD hero Incentivise? 🐎

    What price will you take?

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  15. mh says:

    Courier Paywall

    Claytons border opening will be an absolute shambles

    The reality is the Queensland border is not really reopening on December 17. It’s a Claytons opening, the one you have when you’re not really having one at all, writes Mike O’Connor.

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  16. Black Ball says:

    mh, if you wish to remove a paywall, copy the address into Will work a treat

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  17. FlyingPigs says:

    What price will you take?

    what odds are you giving???

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  18. mh says:

    Didn’t work for me, BB.

    That particular headline I don’t really need the article.
    It’s just showing there is a lot of scepticism of anything substantial changing in Dec regarding QLD borders.
    They are all full of it, Pfizer is running Australia now.

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  19. mh says:

    what odds are you giving???
    I was just wondering at what price Aussie punters would step in.
    Incentivise has blown from 2.30 to 2.80 on fixed markets.

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  20. mh says:

    It’s looking like the Tote is the way to go.

    Punters seem wary.

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  21. FlyingPigs says:

    mh says:
    November 2, 2021 at 1:17 am

    been to some Melbourne Cup meetings.

    Always bet on a horse that can run 3200 meters.

    It is a fair ‘jag’ to run fast.

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  22. win says:

    Kaysee 9.03pm Where do you find these things. Thanks. This one shows once again the ABC 22 kids channel using other peoples work. Their take on your guitar players are two cartoon women same guitars same soft drone with and used for indoctrination of the under 5’s. They started innocuously with food. This pair join Jackie French who has book taken the My Dog does Ballet and written a book with a kangaroo doing ballett. They have’nt got an original idea in entertainment. The billion dollars seems to be used exclusively for the destruction of the right wing political thought.

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  23. struth says:

    You can scream WEF until you are blue in the face, but after two years of doing so I can assure you selective deafness is a major symptom of the people asking “why” or “who”.
    Admitting to oneself that it’s a global elite of communist types that have traitors destroying us……..when it’s as plain as the nose on your face, means admitting that elections are not going to fix this, and our situation is much more dire.
    The level of denialism in this nation has certainly shocked the shit out of me.
    I am imprisoned in an insane asylum.
    The sane are out there and in speaking up in the real world you find them.
    But lets be honest.
    Cowardice and submission can only be accommodated and survive in those willing to either exist in a state of delusion or admission.

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  24. struth says:

    How many are really vaxxed?
    Just last week only 30% of Qlders vaxxed.
    In one week that’s jumped to 60%.
    It’s taken nearly a year for the 30% to get vaxxed and then in just one week when so much more is known about the deadly disasters these poisons are….people came rushing forward to get jabbed.
    Around these here parts of Cane toad county I can assure you there is no line ups in any jab joints.

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  25. struth says:

    Ten thousand. ..TEN THOUSAND health care workers in Queensland stood down for refusing the jab.

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  26. FlyingPigs says:

    struth says:
    November 2, 2021 at 6:19 am

    Ten thousand. ..TEN THOUSAND health care workers in Queensland stood down for refusing the jab.

    The sooner ‘Public Health’ is shutdown the safer we will be.

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  27. johanna johanna says:

    Careful, struth, lest your foofer valve should go kabloom.

    You say you are married. I can only assume your wife has noise-cancelling headphones.

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  28. struth says:

    Johanna, …go pull your weeds.
    You women have done enough damage.

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  29. FlyingPigs says:

    johanna says:
    November 2, 2021 at 7:28 am

    Do you think being a former public “servant” will exonerate you?

    You come across as a typical arrogant time waster.

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  30. FlyingPigs says:

    How’s them apples Johanna?

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  31. mh says:

    The Age

    Forget the fear-mongering over proposed pandemic laws
    Fiona Patten
    Reason Party leader

    Trust Dan!
    Nothing to see here!
    Dan is keeping us safe!

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  32. cohenite says:

    For the delectation of all and sundry Mark A’s Lame pics:

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  33. mh says:

    For the non-compliant

    Courier Paywall

    Inside Brisbane’s Covid-19 quarantine camp
    New details, including images, have revealed for the first time what Brisbane’s Covid quarantine camp is expected to look like. But the federal government has hinted big changes may already be in the pipeline.

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  34. mh says:

    Move over, Dave Chappelle.

    Colin Kaepernick is equating playing in the NFL with slavery.

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  35. Old bloke says:

    mh says:
    November 1, 2021 at 6:58 pm

    ‘4000 health workers suspended for refusing Covid jab
    About 4000 of Queensland’s health workers have been suspended for refusing to get the Covid jab as the sector’s vaccine mandate comes into effect today. It comes after no new Covid cases in the past 24 hours.’
    4000 seems high.
    I expect many have seen horrific vaccine injuries first hand.


    We’ve lost around 20,000 doctors and nurses Australia-wide due to their refusal to take the jab. Scott Morrison said he’ll allow the same number of replacement staff into Australia on expedited immigration arrangements to cover the gap.

    The problem is that many countries face the same problem and they are also looking for replacement staff so where is Scotty going to get them?

    The resignation of 20,000 medical staff certainly isn’t a ringing endorsement for those experimental vaxxines, these are people who had to deal with the deaths and injuries from those concoctions and have decided that penury is preferable to having the jab.

    I absolutely loathe our government.

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  36. Shy Ted says:

    How smart are you?
    At least we can see them coming now. This wasn’t thought up or produced in a few weeks.

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  37. Shy Ted says:

    Got my badge.
    I’ll let you know what’s on the next level.

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  38. Eyrie says:

    “I expect many have seen horrific vaccine injuries first hand.”

    A few weeks ago in a small Queensland town the local real estate lady said her sister, an RN was quitting over this as she’d worked in the Coof ward on the coast (2 cases) but since the vax, lots of vax injuries, hence no way for vax.

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  39. egg_ says:

    We’ve lost around 20,000 doctors and nurses Australia-wide due to their refusal to take the jab.

    The question was never answered at Glad’s Presser, nor has Grigs responded here, re what percentage of frontline NSW ‘Elf wukkas are vaxxed.

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  40. mh says:

    ‘Scott Morrison said he’ll allow the same number of replacement staff into Australia on expedited immigration arrangements to cover the gap.’
    That’s our PM.
    All the way with Klaus Kissinger.

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  41. mh says:

    ‘A few weeks ago in a small Queensland town the local real estate lady said her sister, an RN was quitting over this as she’d worked in the Coof ward on the coast (2 cases) but since the vax, lots of vax injuries, hence no way for vax.’
    Don’t quit.
    Make them sack you.

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  42. Black Ball says:

    It is now impossible to discern between Labor and the Coalition. Sayeth Mr Perrottet:

    “Ultimately we want a united society and we believe that by moving that date back to December 15 that will incentivise and we are hopeful that we can get that rate upto 95 per cent and that will not just be nation-leading it will be world-leading.”

    From the longer news report FMD

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  43. Black Ball says:

    Omen bet from Perrottet is Incentivise

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  44. Black Ball says:

    James McDonald is in the form of his life

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  45. kaysee kaysee says:

    Press conferencing Jacinda-style.

    We’re on the same page…..

    Until the question is too tough to answer. Then, only accredited questioners are permitted. Leaders don’t evade questions and run away to a safe space.


    Jacinda Ardern shuts down press conference after being hammered with questions by a non-accredited member of the media about why the vaccine wasn’t working in Israel.

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  46. kaysee kaysee says:

    Need more politicians like Rennick.

    From the Oz, for those who can’t access:

    Senator Gerard Rennick’s provisos to support Coalition
    by Greg Brown

    Liberal National Party senator Gerard Rennick says he will not vote in favour of any government legislation unless Scott Morrison bans mandatory vaccination policies, ends plans to vaccinate children and demands that the states put an end to all travel restrictions.

    His demands threaten to make it more difficult for the Prime Minister to pass new laws, with the Coalition needing the support from three out of five crossbenchers if any legislation is opposed by Labor and the Greens.

    Senator Rennick used social media to publish a letter he sent to Mr Morrison informing him of his intention to withhold his vote from the government.

    Senator Rennick issued five demands for Mr Morrison to meet: more compensation for people who have adverse ­reactions to the Covid-19 ­vaccine; the right for vaccine victims to refuse a second jab; a banning of state governments and companies implementing man­da­tory vaccination programs; a reversal on plans to give the ­vaccine to children; and for all domestic travel restrictions to be repealed.

    “In the last two weeks, I have become aware of severe and ­undiagnosed injuries to people as a result of the Covid vaccines,” Senator Rennick wrote.

    “Many of these are not being acknowledged by the very medical authorities who should be helping them.

    “Those who have suffered injuries from vaccines need help urgently both in dealing with their pain and mental anguish of not knowing if and when they will recover.”

    While his stance has won the praise of LNP defector and ­former Queensland premier Campbell Newman, Senator Rennick said he would not join the crossbench or quit the ­Coalition.

    He said he had spoken with Josh Frydenberg, Health Minister Greg Hunt and Senate leader Simon Birmingham about the ­issues.

    “They are happy to look at the problem – it is not like they are stonewalling or anything,” he told The Australian.

    “A lot of this stuff can be resolved and it is a problem that needs to be resolved.”

    While some of his demands are under the purview of state governments, he said Mr Morrison needed to stand up to the premiers.

    “We don’t have to give (states) the vaccine,” Senator Rennick said.

    “Any employer or any state government that coerces people into taking those vaccinations should not be given indemnity.

    “And we should not give out the vaccination if they (states) enforce mandatory obligations.

    “It is just not on.”

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  47. cohenite says:

    Rennick is a good man and has a good handle on the bullshit alarmism junk

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  48. kaysee kaysee says:


    She nails it.
    VaxxPass is exactly what they are shooting for.

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  49. Delta A says:

    “‘Scott Morrison said he’ll allow the same number of replacement staff into Australia on expedited immigration arrangements to cover the gap.’”
    I can’t contemplate this for more than just moments at a time. Even then, I feel my blood pressure hiking far beyond any safe level.
    What a grub!
    What a self-serving, hypocritical, traitorous, pestilence-ridden piece of vermin (sorry to any lurking rats) is this creature.
    What happened to ‘serving all Australians’? Isn’t that part of the vow on the swearing-in of the PM. Liar!
    After 50 plus years of voting Liberal (with just one disastrous exception) I shall never support them again, as long as any of this parliament is still sitting.

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  50. mh says:

    Delta, you were with the Libs up until today?
    Last of the true believers.

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  51. mh says:

    Sam Frost coerced:

    ‘Actor Sam Frost says she will get COVID-19 vaccine weeks after video backlash

    The Home and Away star’s announcement comes after Channel Seven said it would require cast to be double vaccinated by January 10.’

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  52. Delta A says:

    “Delta, you were with the Libs up until today?”

    No way, mh.
    I had been prepared to (maybe) give them a go after a couple of election cycles, hoping they might have learned something in opposition.
    But they never do, and so I never will.

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  53. Muddy says:

    I’m reposting this from the tail end of my Kokoda thread over on DoverCat: (Do I blockquote myself?).

    The importance of military history is not so much in the weapons, statistics and events, but the individuals who wielded, were a part of, and created, those secondary elements.

    Conflict shines a light on the best and worst of humanity, as a result of which we develop technologically, and either grow or decay in a social and moral sense.

    I would go so far as to claim that armed conflict highlights the value of what we possess, prompting us to defend it. Absent the fear of physical threats and violence, we metaphorically let our posture and external awareness slump; take for granted that nothing will ever change, therefore nothing needs defending.

    And here we are. Slumped.

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  54. caveman says:

    Sam Frost coerced

    We all being coerced. Mob i sub for want double fax for all suppliers or else no work, they control the purse strings. Have to put money on table some how. Its sinister its evil and it hurts. Never forget, just dont stand out in the crowd and make yourself a target. You can do more damage by being stealth , blend in with the crowd.

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  55. kaysee kaysee says:

    win says:
    November 2, 2021 at 2:43 am

    Kaysee 9.03pm Where do you find these things. Thanks.

    win, I am a Collector. Sometimes, I open up one of the boxes, pick out one

    and voilà …. it lands on the Cat. 🙂

    I haven’t posted from the Numeros box for a few weeks. Will open it again soon and restart the posting.

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  56. kaysee kaysee says:


    Attorney Tomas Renz – friendly warning…

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  57. Kaysee, I understand the difference between a collector and an accumulator is what one does with the material gathered.

    Bringing the pics to Çats definately puts you in the collection side of the register!

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  58. Shy Ted says:

    They seem to have kept it quiet as long as they could, calling them “teens” for days – goings on at the school for young ladies
    I suspect we will learn little more.

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  59. Shy Ted says:

    Dumb bint on The Drum says “most people I know have willingly engaged with the lockdowns as part of the social contract”. Naturally she’s on board with 95% for the unvaxxed. How my TV ended up on the ABC I don’t know. One more time and it’s out.

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  60. Muddy says:

    I can empathise, caveman, as can numerous others here. I’m presently working out how long I can continue to hold out before succumbing.

    Apologies for being pedantic, but I feel the need to correct the following:

    Mob i sub for want double fax

    I believe it is double fux. As in “Are you double fuxxed?” In a New Zealand accent, of course.

    Once we’re all double fuxxed and quadruply roostered (pronounced with a silent ‘s’), life’l be back to the new supa-smoothe normal.

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  61. kaysee kaysee says:


    So it’s okay to reopen up my numeros box? ^.^

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  62. Muddy says:

    Shy Ted says:
    November 2, 2021 at 7:37 pm

    You bought one of those Socially Conscious TVs by mistake, didn’t you?

    They look like ‘smart’ TVs, but when put plug ’em in …

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  63. FlyingPigs says:

    COP26 – Mankind is an Existential Threat to Mankind.
    from Sundance

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  64. FlyingPigs says:

    @Black Ball

    Just realised hadn’t asked Adam to give you my email which I have just done.

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  65. Muddy says:

    when put plug ’em in …

    Geez. I think we need to start filtering the quality of some of these commenters.

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  66. mh says:

    Put a line through the Aussie Men’s Open:

    Aus Open: Djoker’s anti-vax pack grows
    The Australian Open may go ahead without the world’s top two male players with Daniil Medvedev joining Novak Djokovic’s vax status hold out group.

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  67. Black Ball Black Ball says:

    No worries Flying Pigs. As Muddy mentioned, might take some time until Adam gets back.
    I think I am in love

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  68. Delta A says:

    “So it’s okay to reopen up my numeros box? ”
    Please do, kaysee.
    I enjoy your pics.

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  69. FlyingPigs says:

    I think I am in love


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  70. mh says:

    ‘I can empathise, caveman, as can numerous others here. I’m presently working out how long I can continue to hold out before succumbing.’
    Vaxxed or unvaxxed, you guys need to vote UAP like your life depends on it.

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  71. Muddy says:

    With UAP preferencing the Zombie Party?
    Nope. Not a chance.
    My vote is worth more than that.

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  72. mh says:

    How do you know who UAP will be preferencing?
    You don’t have to follow any party’s preference guidance either.
    If you have no political solution, then you either have to come up with a non-political solution, or accept that you will have to take the clot shots. Forever.

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  73. mh says:

    Put the sitting member last.

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  74. mh says:

    Mom’s Twitter Timeline Shows Transformation from Pro-Vax To Pro-Informed Consent Following Teen Son’s Vaccine Injury

    Starts here:

    I’m a teacher with a few science degrees. All three of my kiddos will be vaccinated as soon as they are able.

    Ends here:

    Replying to @ashishkjha
    I used to shame people for not getting vaccinated until my son was hospitalized with vaccine induced myocarditis. Life has a way of humbling you.

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  75. FlyingPigs says:

    mh says:
    November 2, 2021 at 10:46 pm

    Mom’s Twitter Timeline Shows Transformation from Pro-Vax To Pro-Informed Consent Following Teen Son’s Vaccine Injury

    what a tragedy, mh

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  76. FlyingPigs says:

    Steve trickler

    where are you???

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  77. mh says:

    Yes FP, and this is something Americans, and probably everyone else, should consider:

    2/ His second bill arrived and it’s for his bed on the Acute Cardiac Unit. It’s for $20K before insurance, roughly $3k after. My motivation in posting this is because I don’t think parents understand the gravity of ‘mild’ myocarditis. It is not, “take two Motrin, and lay down.”

    This globalist takeover will get very ugly.

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  78. mh says:

    Today was a good day for Kiwis.
    Chris Waller
    James MacDonald
    Very Elegant

    But then there is that other nag called Jacinda

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  79. FlyingPigs says:


    This is why our “health” bureaucrats have pushed for euthanasia ….

    Health Care’s March Towards Death

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  80. mh says:

    ‘Joe Wise, Republican candidate for Allegheny County Council, dies at 56

    Joe Wise, a Republican candidate for an Allegheny County Council in Tuesday’s election, died Saturday afternoon of COVID-19 complications.

    Mr. Wise had received his first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine and then fell ill, according to his son Christian Wise, 17.

    “He was a phenomenal person,” Christian said. “He got sick literally the day after he got [the vaccine], and it really was just a string of bad luck.
    ‘Bad luck.’
    ‘Covid complications.’

    Or the covid vax killed him.

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  81. Black Ball Black Ball says:

    So just caught the start of Pakistan v Namibia in the cricket. Namibia had 2 black players and 3 on coaching staff. All were standing during their national anthem with hands on hearts. South Africa can go forth and fornicate.

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  82. FlyingPigs says:

    Black Ball Black Ball says:
    November 3, 2021 at 1:31 am

    So just caught the start of Pakistan v Namibia in the cricket. Namibia had 2 black players and 3 on coaching staff. All were standing during their national anthem with hands on hearts. South Africa can go forth and fornicate.

    But what is even worse BB, the country, Namibia, plays white mans cricket!

    I wonder if they would like to play so called Australian Rules Football?

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  83. mh says:
    NOW – U.S. Army Brigade Surgeon says “in one morning I had to ground 3 out of 3 pilots due to vaccine injuries” at a panel discussion hosted by U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson.

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  84. struth says:

    Death from covid complications means death from vaccines.
    95% jabbed means 95% of four fifths of fuck all times by the power of socialism carrying the five.
    Looks like I’ll be in the concentration camp with 4000 doctors and nurses who are decent people and who have seen what the vaccines do.
    Maybe be able to see a decent quack!
    The reality is, unfortunately, if you succumb to the bullying to take the jab, you will lose all freedom forever.
    I believe the moral stance is to not cause misery and death of your fellow Australians by submitting to tyranny.
    In submitting, what follows is on your head.
    4000 doctors and nurses have been willing to lose their careers and livelihoods rather than become good little Nazis.
    Be at peace with yourself and fight by not complying and insulate yourself and your loved ones as best you can.
    Lose a job or lose your nation, your freedom, and all reason for existence.
    In reality there are about 30% vaccinated Queenslanders.
    It doesn’t jump up to 60% in one week.
    Hold the line.

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  85. struth says:

    Repeat after me.
    It is a two tiered state where the good , compliant Nazis enjoy privileges easily granted or taken away by an undemocratic dictatorial government who , once so many people are jabbed are not mentioning rescinding the state of emergency.
    Funny that.

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  86. Eyrie says:

    Karl Denninger this morning on something very worrying with the clot shots. He’s worked up a full statistical analysis on the problem

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