Open Thread – Saturday, 26 March 2022

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  1. mh says:

    Bill Gates:
    Rich nations should move to ‘100 percent synthetic beef’

    Piss off.


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  2. mh says:

    PJW

    …Now a new report claims the Ukrainian soldiers who were caught on camera torturing the POWs have themselves been captured by Russian Special Forces.

    The claim was made by Russian lawmaker, Chairman of the Defence Committee of the State Duma, Vladimir Shamanov.

    “The joy of [those who] tortured our servicemen did not last long – three days after [the video of tortures emerged] our special forces captured these bastards. Now they are begging for mercy,” Shamanov said.

    Shamanov went on to assert that two of the individuals had been captured and that they were “radicals” as well as supporters of the Ukrainian football club FC Metalist Kharkiv.


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  3. Steve trickler says:

    I nod my head in agreement. Let’s see if he cops some flak.

    Senator Alex Antic shines a light on the WEF


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  4. Steve trickler says:

    This was great.

    ****

    Yana Fortep:

    June 2019. JFC jazz club. Russia. Saint-Petersburg

    Yana Fortep – I feel Love ( Donna Summer cover)


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  5. Steve trickler says:

    Bald and Bankrupt:

    Whilst in Georgia I visited the town of Rustavi where is situated the largest metallurgy factory complex in the Caucasus. Built during the time of Joseph Stalin and no doubt full of Soviet treasures I knew I’d have to somehow get inside and explore what was left of the complex. And whilst inside I discovered a laboratory. Watch to see what happened. Or don’t watch. It’s totally up to you. Personally I would go eat a pot noodle instead but you’re a grown adult so make your choice.

    Breaking Bald ( In The Abandoned Lab )


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  6. mh says:

    Greg Reese

    U.S. Military Deaths Up 1100% And Exponentially Rising

    https://banned.video/watch?id=624470c28d23ca39cd2f866e


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  7. mh says:

    Los Angeles: Bruce Willis is stepping away from acting after a diagnosis of aphasia, a condition that causes loss of the ability to understand or express speech, his family announced.

    In a statement posted on Willis’ Instagram page on Thursday (AEDT), the 67-year-old actor’s family said Willis was recently diagnosed with aphasia and that it is impacting his cognitive abilities.…


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  8. egg_ says:

    Bill Gates:
    Rich nations should move to ‘100 percent synthetic beef’

    Mottley fat old ranga with a pancake @rse and toothpick* arms lectures others on ‘Elf and nutrition?

    Da ironing – must be proof that God has a sense-of-humour.

    As Salty Cracker points out – Gates’ father was on the board of Planned Parenthood – Malthusian by default?

    *c/- Joe Rogan.


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  9. egg_ says:

    Yana Fortep – I feel Love ( Donna Summer cover)

    Great stuff – recently played on ABC Jazz IIRC.

    Jihye Lee Orchestra – Relentless Mind (ft. Sean Jones, Alan Ferber)

    Modern Big Band composer.


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  10. egg_ says:

    Memes

    Soros: “I’ve got you testicles under my skin eyes”.

    h/t: Salty Cracker


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  11. Cardimona says:

    The Worst Australian, with help from the WA Police Minister, has published a map of firearms owners – https://nationalshooting.org.au/wa-papalias-review-of-gun-laws/

    This will inevitably facilitate criminals breaking in to steal the firearms, and that will be blamed on the owners and used as an argument against private firearm ownership.


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  12. mh says:

    The Age

    Australian, US alarm at proposed sanction-skirting Russia-India bank scheme

    The proposed project involving a member of the Quad alliance would undermine the sanctions imposed against Vladimir Putin over his February invasion of neighbour Ukraine.

    I though QUAD was set up as a response to China, not Russia.


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  13. Shy Ted says:

    Watched a bit of the African soccer, I think it’s play offs for the World Cup. Basically it’s like watching the English Premier League. In the Egypt vs Senegal match there were hundreds of fans with laser pointers shining into the faces of players and such. It went to penalties. Lasers on the player, keeper and around the penalty spot. They didn’t flinch but missed penalty after penalty. Until the last player for Senegal who got none and scored. Racism.
    Watcha gonna do, FIFA?


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  14. Shy Ted says:

    I’ve met many physically threatening people in my life. Who did I fear most? The brain damaged. Those who had lost the ability to control impulses through injury or illness. Once the aggression had started, only exhaustion or physical restraint would stop it. On bad days it was me and my colleagues between them and the focus of their anger, often without justification. But who was the most psychologically threatening character I met? Who was my Hannibal Lecter if I was Clarice? Those who work with these characters are well aware that there are a tiny number of people can invade their thoughts and give them nightmares for no tangible reason. As Nietzsche
    said, “Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster… for when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”. FBI profilers routinely admit their torment from one particular incarcerated character but not another. And it’s not always the same one.
    I didn’t work much in forensic settings, it was, frankly, boring in my grass roots role. People are there for months and years and there are so many appropriate restrictions on normal discourse, do you want the offender in front of you knowing your full name or family details? The conversation is superficial and inoffensive by necessity. Not so in the real life of the real world.
    I had taken a job in one of the parts of Australia where nobody wanted to work and my predecessor had left me a list of open “cases”. Very often people don’t want to engage and mostly there is no great reason to force a service onto anyone but services and agencies have mission statements that seek “better engagement” and “no thank you” is deemed not good enough. Most referrals are people affected by adverse events in their lives and should they have mentioned suicide, your service says “jump and don’t take no for an answer”. There are conditions where jumping and not accepting “no” is perfectly appropriate but this is rare and specific. Most people get through it but suffer considerably in the process. Grieving, large or small, takes time and is normal. A referral may take up considerable resources and in the end nothing will have been achieved and some people will be “frightened off”.
    I looked at the list – “abnormal grief reaction after wife’ suicide”. Hmm. The clinical notes had nothing further. Several months had gone by. Service policy – “must meet, must assess”. So I tried and failed, as had my predecessor. I’d long felt that what we were doing was harassment but policy writers weren’t usually clinicians and hadn’t met enough angry people, inches from their face, threatening them. Just one usually does it. So I rang, left a message, repeat, wrote a letter, sent it, another, hand delivered. Presented it to them team but I knew what the answer would be. You never do a home visit by yourself but when you are the sole practitioner…
    I knocked on the fence of the rundown property and shouted “hello?” Nothing. No dogs. Good! Opened the gate a little and popped head round. “Hello?” The TV or radio was on, venture in cautiously, knock on the door. “I don’t want to see anyone.”
    Identify. Introduction and background. “It’s just about the referral from your doctor. A few months ago but we couldn’t get hold of you. I’d rather not talk through the door.”
    “Come in then. It’s safe.” Pause. “Mostly.”
    Completely ordinary chap, scruffy and the house run down.
    “Sorry but my service insists I see you.”
    “About what?”
    “The referral said your wife had completed suicide and you weren’t grieving properly… whatever that means.”
    “No, she’s in the other room.”
    A vision of the Bates Motel flashed momentarily. But he laughed gently.
    “It means I was glad when she did it. That’s my new wife in the other room. I’m fine. We’re fine. You can go now.”
    One of my mentors had told me it was all about style. If you’re serious, they’ll see that. Be neutral. If they laugh, you laugh. If they cry, neutral. Maybe serious face. I’d had plenty of practice.
    “She’s not buried in the garden or anything like that?” Big smile time. It worked.
    “She hasn’t misbehaved yet. I suppose you’ll be wanting to see her. Pompit! Come in here.”
    A tiny Asian lady stood nervously in the doorway of a darkened room. Introduction.
    “Are you okay?”
    She looked at him expectantly. He nodded.
    “Okay. Not speak English. I go now.” She nodded and withdrew.
    “If it’s okay with you I’d like to ask you a few questions. Just a few minutes and then I’m gone…”
    “Want a glass of my home made wine?”
    “I’d love one but I’m on duty. Might buy a bottle at the cellar door on my way out!”
    “You’ve got more of a sense of humour than that other bloke I saw.”
    “Oh. I have no records that you’d been seen before.”
    “In (state capital). Just after I’d identified the body. Well, tried to. Didn’t you know any of this?”
    “No, I didn’t. No records. Not even how she died. I was very naughty and I did have a look through her medical records and she seems to have been very troubled. Self harm and things like that.”
    “You can get struck off for that.”
    “For what?” Big smile. He responded. Game on.
    “As long as we understand I never looked through your deceased wife’ file and know nothing about the overdoses or wrist-cutting.”
    “Sit down, young man.” (I was 50). “Back in a minute.’ He got up, went to the kitchen, returned a moment later with two glasses of home made wine in dirty glasses. “Try that.” (Further inviting me to unethical conduct.)
    I smelled it. Berry maybe. Small sip. “Berry?” There was some chit chat about home brews – rapport building, but it wasn’t. I was uneasy. My “personality disorder radar” was beeping. There was no physical threat but in just a few minutes I had been compromised. Twice.
    “Look, I don’t want to keep you. Can I just ask you the routine questions? Then I’ll be gone?”
    “Depending on the answers…” I nodded, smiling. The game.
    “I’ve never had any head injuries, fits or seizures. I don’t hear voices or see things. I’m not paranoid and I don’t get messages from the TV or radio. I don’t feel depressed. I’m sleeping fine. No weight change. No stupid spending except for the wife but she was cheap enough. A bargain, even. I’m not suicidal. I don’t miss the dead one. I’m glad she’s dead. Should never have married her. Don’t know why I did. There. Am I insane? Or not insane?” He grinned broadly. So did I. The game.
    “Sane…ish.” We laughed. “How many times have you been asked the questions?”
    “Just the once.”
    “Impressive memory. Anyway, as you’re… “sane”, I don’t think you need anything in terms of support. So I can write to your GP and close your case. If that’s okay?”
    “It’s not berry. It’s belladonna. Grows in the garden. All out of wolfs bane. Feeling alright?”
    Think, think. “I can’t remember what belladonna does. Does wolfs bane keep werewolves and vampires away?”
    “Do you see any werewolves or vampires?” I shook my head, smiling. I was going to win this.
    “Belladonna stops your heart. But you don’t half feel weird before it does. Sort of like a trance. Quite peaceful. Then you just fall asleep and don’t wake up…. Shall I tell you what happened? With the dead one?”
    “No need.”
    “I was twenty years older than her. Runaway. Ended up here, can’t remember why. Plying her trade probably. We haggled. I won. She needed the money. Back here for the dirty deed, never left. Terrible at first. Druggie. Stole and sold everything. Gave her what for and she stopped. Just like that. Became the good little wife. Kept the house immaculate. One night I said to her, bit drunk I suppose, “you’d make a wonderful wife.” Next thing you know, we’re married. And that’s when it all started again. Gave her what for and it stopped again. That was her childhood, you see. Violent dad, she said. Abuse. You couldn’t be nice to her. Couldn’t pay her a compliment but you didn’t have to be mean. You just had to give her jobs, expect her to do them with no thanks and she was fine. Then one night she got into my home brew when I was out. Came home to a nymphomaniac. How good’s that? So every night we’d have a little drink and…” I nodded, knowingly.
    “So, we began to make home brew wine. Fruit, berries whatever was in the garden. Great little hobby, Cheap. Then one night we both got sick as dogs. We worked out it was some weed growing in the garden, poisonous. We didn’t label any of the bottles and we threw away what we thought were the bad ones but I kept getting sick, going into trances it felt like. She’d look after me while I got better, usually just a couple of days and then a week later it’d happen again. She was poisoning me.”
    I nodded.
    “So, she had to go. I told her so. She just left one night. Next thing, a knock on the door, cops, found her decomposed body. It was a few weeks after. Why hadn’t I reported her missing? She’d written a suicide note. They said I’d murdered her.”
    And on it went. Multiple “red flags” – compromise clinician, “fantastic” story, admits to making poisonous wine and then giving me some. Psychopathic types often play these mind games. What was true? Despite presenting in a scruffy manner he was intelligent and articulate. His knowledge of local plants was encyclopaedic, in particular, the poisonous aspects of them. And he was very likeable. I found myself repeatedly thinking, “What did he just say?” as he toyed with me. I’d swear he implied he had murdered her or at least poisoned her, maybe over a period of time. He kept encouraging me to have another sip of the wine. I didn’t. I thought about offering to buy a bottle and having it sent for forensic analysis but what if it was just wine? How would I look to my colleagues?
    Back at the office, thoroughly puzzled, I began to write my notes and I can’t ever remember finding it so difficult to describe what had transpired. There was no urgency to complete them and there were other matters to attend to. But things kept popping into my head over the next few days – “what did he mean by that?” and “why did he smirk at that point?” Things didn’t make sense.
    I couldn’t find his medical records for the previous psychiatric assessment. Had there even been one? I had an off the record chat with the local police sergeant. Such conversations are always cagey because breaching confidentiality is a career ender. Without mentioning any names I began to outline the case.
    “She didn’t kill herself. We attended the scene. She couldn’t have.”
    Wow! “I can’t find any records.”
    “He spells his name differently and uses a near date of birth so records don’t match up. Look, I can’t say anymore but do you know about his first wife?” I shook my head. He raised his eyebrows and shrugged. “Sorry. Confidentiality.”
    A few days later the visiting psychiatrist was there and I discussed all my cases, large and small, with him. He smiled and rang his registrar. “Do you remember… Tell me. Aaah, yes.”
    “My registrar assessed him some months back. He came out of the interview white. He talked about him for days. Do you think he has a mental illness?”
    “No.”
    “Nor did the reg. Write to the GP, just the facts and close the case. And don’t write anything silly!”
    And for a while things he had said or done in those few minutes kept popping into my head. No formal diagnosis my notes read.


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  15. candy says:

    An engrossing story, Shy Ted.

    Makes you wonder if some individuals have bad/”evil” brain wiring from the very beginning and it’s just who they are.
    If psychopaths are simply just born with a mechanically faulty brain. Something missing or something faulty in brain during construction.


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  16. Cardimona says:

    Faaark, Shy Ted – I used to do solo home visits as a DSS fraud investigator back in the ’80s.
    I wonder how many psychopaths I sat down with…?


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  17. johanna johanna says:

    A chilling tale, Ted.

    I had an experience quite recently which freaked me out, and I’ve been around, IYKWIM.

    Had a brief casual conversation with a guy I met in passing, and when he looked at me his face was impassive, eyes were just dead. I felt as though he could kill someone like squashing an ant. He emanated coldness and evil. It made me want to never run into him again, ever, anywhere.

    I’m far from suggestible and have met my share of villains of various kinds, but this was something quite different.

    Anyone who believes that everyone is reedeemable is living in fairyland, IMO.


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  18. egg_ says:

    I had taken a job in one of the parts of Australia where nobody wanted to work and my predecessor had left me a list of open “cases”.

    Having been a rural and remote areas contractor, essentially doing “Dirty Jobs” that no one else wants to do, you meet your fair share of “sociopathic losers” in dead-end locations/jobs.


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  19. Steve trickler says:

    Big quakes near New Caledonia. Another 7 just hit.

    Dutchsinse livetream – Earthquake 3D

    Earthquake 3D


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  20. mh says:

    The Age

    “The distance of our countries is separated by thousands of kilometres, but there is no such thing as distance for the brutality and the chaos that Russia brought to the east of Ukraine,” President Volodymyr Zelensky said.

    The Ukraine government has been targeting civilians in Eastern Ukraine since 2014. Ethnic cleansing.

    Australia should not be sticking its head into what is now effectively a currency war between the US and Russia.


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  21. Ragu Ragu says:

    Top drawer story, ShyTed. Leaves a lot of questions, such as what State did that bloke live in. Did the Asian lady make it out alive?

    I sense a lot of catharsis to these vignettes. Are you ok, you’re not on deaths door?


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  22. mh says:

    Oz

    The ‘lion of democracy’ thanked Australia for its support during a speech to Australia’s parliament, after the PM announced $25m in fresh aid.
    By SARAH ISON, MAX MADDISON

    This is becoming ridiculous.

    A quick google

    Opposition political parties banned in Ukraine and ‘unified information policy’ imposed

    Zelensky justified the ban on mostly left and anti-NATO parties in the country by claiming that they had alleged links with Russia, despite the fact that most of these parties have publicly opposed Russian intervention


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  23. mh says:

    #FoxNews #TheFive
    Piers Morgan goes off on Disney caving to woke mob

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT1nrH6vel0


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  24. Delta A says:

    A great anecdote, Shy Ted.

    I worked in community support for many years and while a few home visits made me uncomfortable – goosebumps, even – nothing compared to your experience. And the stand out line:

    policy writers weren’t usually clinicians

    It doesn’t matter what discipline of human services you work in, the policies are always drafted by a group of (usually female) ‘experts’ safe from contamination in their ivory towers, drawing mainly on unicorn kisses to mandate the best feel-good – and in practice, useless – guidlines, to which the hands on workers must adhere.

    I don’t miss any of it.


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  25. Steve trickler says:

    Bloomin heck, check this out.

    If there were no visuals, I would be asking myself what the other instruments are.

    A pleasant surprise.

    ********

    DR Koncerthuset:

    Composed by Vincent David
    With Valentine Michaud (saxophone)

    Recorded in DR Koncerthuset 2021

    PULSE – Vincent David // Valentine Michaud (Live)


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  26. mh says:

    #scmp #Asia #Indonesia
    Rare birth of Sumatran rhino in Indonesia offers hope for endangered species

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du7UfRm3EOI


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  27. mh says:

    #Russia #BRICS #SWIFT
    BRICS countries are building a new financial system – Inside Russia Report

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HFxLzr2B8


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  28. mh says:

    If only they would inject him with the real thing

    The Post Millennial
    @TPostMillennial
    Biden gets his second COVID booster shot: “I’m not sure why I’m doing it on stage.”

    https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1509227267938992133?s=20&t=KHaagG238UbXyPrErKdiog


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  29. Steve trickler says:

    Nice work from the bloke. 👏 It gave the crowd a jolt, so a solid pass from me.

    Needs to get the revs up to about eight grand and try not to let off the throttle so much….still, that was cool.

    BANNED From Burnout Competition?! Cruisin The Coast 2021!


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  30. mh says:

    German inflation surged to a record high since reunification in 1990, official figures published on Wednesday showed, amid soaring energy costs in the wake of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

    Consumer prices rose by as much as 7.3% from a year earlier in March, according to the federal statistics agency Destatis, up from 5.1% in February.

    “Since Russia’s attack on Ukraine, the prices of natural gas and mineral oil products have markedly increased again and have had a considerable impact on the high rate of inflation,” the office said in a statement.

    The figures are likely to add pressure on the European Central Bank to raise interest rates to combat surging prices.


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  31. mh says:

    COMMENTARY

    Give tanks to the ‘lion of democracy’
    Volodymyr Zelensky asked for ADF Bushmaster armoured vehicles; he should aim higher and go for our unused tanks.

    GREG SHERIDAN

    ***

    I’m RazörFist and I Support Current Thing™


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  32. johanna johanna says:

    Interesting article on the global picture re economic santions against Russia here:

    On social media, some disturbing maps have circulated showing the globe in terms of which nations have sanctioned Russia over her invasion of Ukraine. Bolivian writer Ollie Vargas posted this map, which makes clear that sanctions in Russia are seen as an absolute must in Europe, the English-speaking world, Japan, and South Korea. Everywhere else, President Biden’s requests for economic war against Russia have been rejected.

    White House press secretary Jen Psaki recently claimed that we have “basically crushed” Russia’s economy through sanctions, but is this true? The sanctions can’t work in crushing the Russian economy and forcing the ouster of Putin if only a small percentage of the globe is really sanctioning Moscow. Despite how important the United States and her allies are, Russia still has a huge playing field in which to recover trade.

    and

    On the other hand, now would be a good time for all those Critical Race theorists in New York and California to update their antiquated assumptions. People outside the tidy U.S. sphere of influence don’t see the Ukraine invasion as a simple bad/good dichotomy. Many recognize that the 2014 coup d’état that put the current Ukrainian regime in power as a typical Western intelligence operation, something they can recognize from their own histories. Therefore, they aren’t swayed simply by the idea that Zelensky is naturally the good guy by virtue of being the one holding power before the war started. A lot of them look at Zelensky and see a puppet, an agent of Western infiltration and subversion, not very different from the countless phonies that the CIA has installed in the four corners of the globe.

    Well worth a read.

    Thanks for fixing my login, A. 🙂


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  33. johanna johanna says:

    Spoke too soon. The screen said I was logged in, but after I posted a comment, turned out I wasn’t.


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  34. egg_ says:

    I sense a lot of catharsis to these vignettes. Are you ok, you’re not on deaths door?

    I understand that in the original “Psycho”, the nemesis of the psychopath, hunting him down, was an Autist, i.e. it takes an Autist to NOT be emotionally provoked into responding to same prior to skewering.
    Ditto narcs, who play the same game of provocation as Ted as outlined.


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  35. egg_ says:

    A lot of them look at Zelensky and see a puppet, an agent of Western infiltration and subversion, not very different from the countless phonies that the CIA has installed in the four corners of the globe.

    Hence, the CIA puppet is making presentations to legislatures around the Globe, as one would.

    Is there a Jack Ruby to take Zelensky out at any stage?


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  36. mh says:

    Always some laughs to be had with these debates:

    World Rushes To India To Find Way Out Of Russia-Ukraine War | The Debate With Arnab Goswami

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFlqHFMY-08


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  37. egg_ says:

    Always thought that this marvelous staccato work was classical music:

    Tanguedia Quintet – Milonga Loca (Astor Piazzolla)


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  38. egg_ says:

    World Rushes To India To Find Way Out Of Russia-Ukraine War | The Debate With Arnab Goswami

    Scummo wasn’t invited to participate?
    LMFAO!


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  39. egg_ says:

    World Rushes To India To Find Way Out Of Russia-Ukraine War | The Debate With Arnab Goswami

    Prof Nalapat: India follows Biden’s directions and faces mass starvation.

    Grunenfuhrers are the elite.

    “India first” before following UN Security Council global elite, eh Scummo?


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  40. egg_ says:

    World Rushes To India To Find Way Out Of Russia-Ukraine War | The Debate With Arnab Goswami

    Highly entertaining – US/NATO getting their @rse kicked by the panel.

    “US illegal invasion of Iraq” getting quite an airing – Trump being a Troofer ‘n’ all.


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  41. Ragu Ragu says:

    The Debate With Arnab Goswami

    That show is more informative than 6 years of legacy media shyte.


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  42. Old bloke says:

    George Christensen’s final speech in Parliament:

    https://youtu.be/Sl2v-7FlY5o

    It’s a pity that he’s going, he was good value.


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  43. Barking Toad says:

    More insanity in Danistan…….

    An extra 15 billion litres of desal water will flow into Melbourne storages already at 86 per cent capacity.


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  44. Barking Toad says:

    From the Hun – perhaps that explains his girlie oscillating when he pontificates………

    Peter van Onselen has revealed during a late-night clash on social media with Grace Tame that he was sexually assaulted as a child.


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  45. egg_ says:

    An extra 15 billion litres of desal water will flow into Melbourne storages already at 86 per cent capacity.

    Pouring (de)salt(ed water) onto wounds.


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  46. egg_ says:

    TOKYO GROOVE JYOSHI

    Reminiscent of Stevie Wonder groove funk, like “Sir Duke”.


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  47. Ragu says:

    Nice work, egg. Good music and it really helps that the women are all gorgeous.


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  48. cohenite says:

    Latest from the wacky world of islam:

    Minneapolis allows Islamic call to prayer to be broadcast over loudspeakers three times a day

    Nigeria: Muslims raid town, find it largely empty, tear down houses and set fire to 80-year-old man

    Pakistan: Three female students slaughter their seminary teacher over alleged blasphemy

    https://preview.mailerlite.com/x9d2g0r4n8/1918696616580093338/m4s8/


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  49. Steve trickler says:

    The song just popped back in my head.

    True story, it did….and now Mr Bungle one’s, too.

    😀 Mosh Pit!

    Suicidal Tendencies – “Institutionalized” Frontier Records – Official Music Video


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  50. egg_ says:

    it really helps that the women are all gorgeous.

    Hehe, any guy not “stirred” by that performance probably likes “show tunes”.


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  51. Steve trickler says:

    Music, takes you places…

    9:27.

    ******

    State Azure:

    Moog Matriarch Arp demo/first patch


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  52. mh says:

    World Rushes To India To Find Way Out Of Russia-Ukraine War | The Debate With Arnab Goswami

    Good commentary from the last panelist too:

    https://youtu.be/XFlqHFMY-08?t=2848


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  53. Black Ball says:

    Channel Stokes trying to stir shit again. Some sort of exposé into the Djokovic saga. Apparently ‘never seen before’ stuff to be detailed. Give me a spell


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  54. egg_ says:

    Good commentary from the last panelist too:

    The “bald eagle” came away from that panel with a broken wing and ruffled tail feathers!


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