Open Thread – August 2024

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mh says:

August 25, 2024 at 2:36 pm

By Al Jazeera Staff
Published On 25 Aug 2024

Hezbollah says it has completed the first phase of its attack on Israel with “a large number of missiles” in response to the killing of commander Fuad Shukr at the end of July.

The Lebanese group said in a statement on Sunday that it fired more than 320 Katyusha rockets at 11 Israeli military bases and barracks, including the Meron base and four sites in the occupied Golan Heights.

It said it targeted military bases to “facilitate the passage of drones” towards their desired targets deep inside Israel. “And the drones have passed as planned.” …

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kaysee says:

August 25, 2024 at 2:47 pm

Immigration
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This news story from the week before has been keeping the talkback radio shows busy. Dutton called for a ban on refugees from Gaza and got labelled racist and divisive. The station I was listening to is mainly the so-called right-wingers and they were leaping to defend Dutton and support him.

August 14, 2024
Peter Dutton demands complete ban on refugees from Gaza entering Australia
amid concerns over Hamas sympathy

Opposition Leader has demanded a blanket ban on refugees from Gaza after the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO) boss suggested Palestinians who express “rhetorical support” for Hamas may not be rejected entry.

I haven’t had the time to discuss it, but here is my detailed opinion/analysis on it.

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kaysee says:

August 25, 2024 at 2:56 pm

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The topic of immigration in general.

Australia needs to have strict migration policy. There need to be stringent rules followed in the taking in of migrants or refugees. The rules should ensure that the security of the country is paramount when considering which applicants should be granted visas. The immigrants should have to pass strict requirements and provide proof to ensure that they have the necessary skills, character, and qualifications. That they can fit in and assimilate into the country, follow its rules and prove to be assets not liabilities.

My views on this are the same as before: Islam is not compatible with western civilisation and values. Those who are followers seeking to come to Australia (or other western nations) will say and do what is necessary to get in, infiltrate, and then establish themselves. But if they are adherents of Islam, their allegiance will not be to the western way of life. Hence, it could result in conflicts and disharmony.

I have no problems with restrictions overall, on any groups of migrants or refugees.

My spat here is with double standards related to the intake of Palestinian refugees.

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kaysee says:

August 25, 2024 at 3:09 pm

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Dutton visited Israel last month. Even before that visit, it was obvious that he, and many in the Liberal party had already revealed their alignment with one side of this conflict. On the subject of politicians, the majority of them – regardless of party – don’t really care about anything but their own survival in their political careers and a good gig after they decide that its time to “retire” from politics. Labor, Liberal, Greens, One Nation, Nationals, Teals, whatever else.

A few questions about Dutton’s trip to Israel:
– Who sponsored that visit?
– Dutton was given a tour of the October 7 site. Did he also visit the post-October 7 sites or wasn’t that suitable to view?
– Did he just listen to what he was told by his sponsors, or did he ask any uncomfortable questions?
– While he was in Israel, the story about the rape of a Palestinian prisoner by the IDF was being reported in the news. Did Dutton ask any questions about that?
– Did he ask questions about the genocide taking place in Gaza?
– Had he already decided who were the victims and the good guys vs the villains and the bad guys or did he try to understand the situation objectively?

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kaysee says:

August 25, 2024 at 3:25 pm

4/
Before I respond to Dutton’s remarks on 14 August:

2006: Palestinian Parliamentary Elections
Facts
– In January 2006, elections were held to elect members to the Palestinian parliament (Gaza and West Bank)
– There was 77% voter turnout.
– I can’t find the facts on the voter age, but I would assume that it would be a minimum 18 years old to vote.
– Hamas won 76 of the 132 seats – so that was the majority.

What does the above tell us?
– Not everyone eligible to vote, cast a vote (23% did not vote)
– Not everyone voted for Hamas. (People voted for other parties which won a combined 56 seats.)

**Read this carefully**:
In October 2023
– No one below the age of 35 would have been eligible to vote in the 2006 election.
– No one below the age of 17 was born at the time of the 2006 election.
– Not everyone above the age of 35 voted in that election.
– Not everyone above the age of 35 who voted in that election voted for Hamas.

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Links for above info:
Hamas sweeps to election victory

Palestinian election facts

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kaysee says:

August 25, 2024 at 3:35 pm

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I have already provided details on all of these issues:
– How Hamas came to be powerful (with the help of Israel for its own devious reasons).
– The conflict did not get set off on 7 October – it has been ongoing for over 75 years. Palestinians have been persecuted during that time by the Israeli government and Israelis.

The Israeli government, under Netanyahu, has behaved as though there was no provocation for the Hamas attack on 7 October. They decided on the path of collective punishment. So in retaliation for what Hamas, a terrorist group did, every Palestinian civilian is responsible because they ALL voted for Hamas.

What Australia is doing is repeating the Israeli lies – that every Palestinian from Gaza cannot be allowed into Australia because they have links to Hamas.

Check out the **Read this carefully** in comment 4/ above, again.
Tell me if your logic can work out the same conclusion.
Tell me how children and babies are supporters of Hamas.
Tell me how Christians in Gaza are supporters of Hamas.
Tell me how every single Palestinian – from the newborn baby to the elderly – can be marked as supporters of Hamas.

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kaysee says:

August 25, 2024 at 3:52 pm

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Now let’s check the Israeli election in November 2022.

– 70.6% of the voting population voted in the elections.
– Netanyahu’s Likud party won 32 seats from a total of 120 seats.
The remaining 88 seats won by other parties.
– Netanyahu is PM due to forming a coalition with some other parties.

Conclusion: ALL Israelis – newborn babies to the elderly – voted for Netanyahu.

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Under Netanyahu’s rule, this current conflict in Gaza (October 2023 – to August 2024 ongoing) has seen the IDF murdering, wounding, raping, harming, persecuting innocent civilians – includes those who did not vote for Hamas, those who were not eligible to vote, those who were not born at that time. They have killed and maimed innocent people – babies, children, women, men. They have destroyed homes, buildings, properties, churches, mosques, universities, hospitals.

They have committed acts of torture and filmed their depraved actions. They have performed vile deeds, they have been sadists, they have taken pleasure in harming and abusing the innocent.

Palestinian Christians who have nothing to do with Hamas have been killed, wounded, spat on, had their faith mocked, churches destroyed. Yet right-wing Aussies on talkback radio will tell you how Israel is our ally, the Biblical connection, and Judeo-Christian heritage.

What I have listed above – the actions of the IDF – are facts. If you have been reading this blog, we have posted links that provide ample proof of the above. These acts haven’t been committed by the IDF once or twice, but several times, over the past 10 months.

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kaysee says:

August 25, 2024 at 4:09 pm

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So every Palestinian living in Gaza is a potential terrorist because they may have links to Hamas. We (right-wingers) know this because we only get our news from what is fed to us by the media, including our fave stable, Nooose Cooops, which has brainwashed us and told us this, repeatedly, in many ways, over the past 10 months. And we believe every word they say. And ALL these Palestinians are guilty by association with Hamas because we know from the same media that they ALL voted for Hamas in 2006 – even if they were not born.
So we cannot have these people entering Australia.

Now, let’s apply the same standards to ALL terrorists.

What the IDF, on behalf of its government led by Netanyahu, is doing in Gaza is genocide. It is far worse than what we understand to be terrorism. No rules of war allow for the slaughter of innocent civilians. Yes, they are innocent civilians, even if that trustworthy media company tells you otherwise.

The bombing, the targeted, precision air strikes, the torture – the despicable acts. This counts as terrorism. They have been judged Guilty by the ICC and ICJ.

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kaysee says:

August 25, 2024 at 4:27 pm

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We have to follow the rules of collective punishment.

Peter Dutton demands a complete ban on refugees from Gaza coming into Australia over concerns about their links to Hamas.

The IDF, over the past 10 months, have murdered, wounded, tortured, raped, persecuted innocent Palestinian civilians including new born babies who are totally and completely innocent. They have destroyed churches, schools, universities, hospitals.

The IDF soldiers are Israelis. They are following orders of their PM, Netanyahu. Netanyahu was elected by the Israelis.

It doesn’t matter that not all Israelis voted in 2022, or that not all Israelis voted for Netanyahu or that not all Israelis support Netanyahu.

For the safety and security of this country and its people, the government cannot allow into Australia ANY Israelis (or supporters of Israel/Zion) as they ALL voted for Netanyahu who is responsible for the actions of the IDF.

Migration Policy:
– Don’t let in ANY Gazan refugees as they MAY have links to Hamas.
– Don’t let in ANY Israelis/Zionists as they MAY have links to the criminals in the IDF.

Collective punishment.
The same rules should apply to all seeking to enter Australia.

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I have spent hours in researching info and writing these comments.

If there is anyone who disagrees with what I have posted, join in and tell me why.

Give me facts and reference links.
Explain to me why the same rules don’t apply.

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kaysee says:

August 25, 2024 at 5:14 pm

I missed out one point. The question being asked and answered:
Q: Why are the other countries in the Middle East not prepared to take in the Palestinians as refugees or migrants?
A: Because these Palestinians are evil and terrorists and they don’t want them in their own countries.

Wrong.

a/ Some of these ME countries are facing their own internal problems such as shortages and other issues. I have links somewhere, but I’ll post them when I find them.

b/ Why should these countries take in Palestinians?
The Palestinians have their own land that they have been living on for centuries.

You have a home in Australia. A group of thugs come to your home and force you out at gun point. So you forfeit your home and go and seek refuge from your extended family and relatives? Even though you had your own property, now your relatives who don’t have enough space for their own families and cannot afford to pay their bills have to take you in?

Why? So that some people who did not work hard and save money to build and own a home have taken over your home and made you and your family homeless?

Why should the ME countries or any other countries have to take in Palestinians as refugees? Just give them back their own land. They can live there with their own people. They don’t need to come to western countries.

We have to ask the question about why these original inhabitants of the land are being driving out by the ones who immigrated seeking refugee and have for over 75 years been persecuting the Palestinians. But it is just easier or more convenient for western countries to make it seem that the real victims are the villains and the persecutors are the persecuted.

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mh says:

August 25, 2024 at 5:51 pm

I missed out one point. The question being asked and answered:
Q: Why are the other countries in the Middle East not prepared to take in the Palestinians as refugees or migrants?

Hamas are aligned to the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Egyptian government sees MB as a threat, given the recent political history in Egypt.

Israel’s intention was for the Palestinians to go Western countries. This was in a leaked document from the Israeli Ministry of Intelligence last year.

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kaysee says:

August 25, 2024 at 7:20 pm

Hamas are aligned to the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Egyptian government sees MB as a threat, given the recent political history in Egypt.

There’s that. And more.

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Why Egypt Refuses to Open Its Borders to Palestinian Refugees

Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi, however, has been adamant in refusing to allow humanitarian corridors or the entry of large numbers of Palestinians into Sinai. He has called it a “red line” that, if crossed, would “liquidate the Palestinian cause”.

In recent days, the UN’s High Commissioner for Refugees, Filippo Grandi, has validated Egypt’s position. Grandi said displacing Gazans to Egypt would be “catastrophic” for both Egypt and the Palestinians, who, he indicated, would likely not be allowed to return.

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How 100,000 Palestinians Are Surviving in Egypt Without Refugee Status

Palestinians who have fled are reaching Egypt at a time when the country is experiencing its worst economic crisis in decades. In recent years, Egypt’s inflation rates have reached all-time highs, rent and food prices have soared, and millions of people have fallen into poverty.

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kaysee says:

August 25, 2024 at 7:30 pm

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Hamzé Attar posted this week:

As I wrote on the 12th of October last year, Israel is advancing towards cutting the Gaza Strip into smaller parts, after Netzarim they are now forcing civilians to evacuate Deir al Balah to create the 3rd partition.

What he posted on 12 October:
(For those who can’t read twitter threads, I’ll post the info)

Pre-invasion:
Deception: Invasion preparations and readiness, hostage negotiations, safe corridors.
↓
Circular bombing-Keep’em moving. Forcing Hamas militants to keep changing their positions and moving hostages along
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Gathering intel on their movements and potential regrouping hubs and key figure locations for either assassinations or Special Ops

Invasion:
Mass bombing (clearing potential Hamas advanced combat units
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Ground invasion (4-5 Axes, cutting major cities and logistic supply lines
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Lighting Special Ops to kill Hamas leaders or free hostages to destroy the general morale of Hamas and its supporters (bold Ops)
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Full control
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Political solution

And this map included.

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kaysee says:

August 25, 2024 at 7:56 pm

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And for this Sunday…

PSALM 62:
Oh God, you are my God

Harpa Dei
This video was recorded in the oldest monastery in Poland. May it resound to the greater glory of God!

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A Ponderable

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(The Subtitles/Closed captions CC on the video seems to come on by default.
Turn it off as it is not required.)

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mh says:

August 26, 2024 at 12:26 am

Nicholas J. Fuentes
@NickJFuentes

We are currently living through another “spring” of internet free speech since Elon’s acquisition of X and the growth of platforms like Telegram and Rumble.

But the arrest of Pavel Durov shows that the battle is far from over. These platforms are under intense pressure.

9:32 PM · Aug 25, 2024

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mh says:

August 26, 2024 at 10:59 am

Via George Christensen

… Durov’s defiance made him a target.

The timing of his arrest is no coincidence.

This isn’t just about Telegram—this is a warning shot to anyone who champions free speech in the digital age.

As X stands firm in its largely non-censorious stance on political, philosophical, and cultural discourse, the powers that be have grown increasingly uncomfortable.

Elon Musk is undoubtedly on notice.

Telegram has been the bain of not just Western governments but also Russia, given its amplified the voice of dissidents and opponents of the Kremlin.

But, as Tucker Carlson pointed out:

… in the end, it wasn’t Putin who arrested him for allowing the public to exercise free speech. It was a western country, a Biden administration ally and enthusiastic NATO member, that locked him away. Pavel Durov sits in a French jail tonight, a living warning to any platform owner who refuses to censor the truth at the behest of governments and intel agencies. Darkness is descending fast on the formerly free world.

Let that sink in.

A Western nation that supposedly champions “freedom” has jailed a man because he won’t censor your conversations.

As Elon Musk put it bluntly, “Dangerous times.”

Musk’s warning resonates even more when you consider the recent crackdown on alternative voices—whether it’s targeting Durov, attempting to muzzle free speech on X, or bullying other platforms into compliance.

This is an escalation in the war on free expression. …

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mh says:

August 26, 2024 at 6:23 pm

Rumble boss flees Europe after Durov arrest

Chris Pavlovski
@chrispavlovski

I’m a little late to this, but for good reason — I’ve just safely departed from Europe.

France has threatened Rumble, and now they have crossed a red line by arresting Telegram’s CEO, Pavel Durov, reportedly for not censoring speech.

Rumble will not stand for this behavior and will use every legal means available to fight for freedom of expression, a universal human right. We are currently fighting in the courts of France, and we hope for Pavel Durov’s immediate release.

8:44 PM · Aug 25, 2024 · 4.4M Views

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Esme says:

August 26, 2024 at 6:24 pm

Where is the logic in this?

Supporting Trump or RFK or Kamala Harris or any politician is not anti-establishment. People in positions of power don’t get there by being agitators or disrupters or dissidents. They get there by aligning and pledging allegiance.

If you don’t see this, I’m sorry, but you are still trapped.

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Esme says:

August 26, 2024 at 6:33 pm

What happened?

The Trump Deception wrecked peoples brains. Not just the left, but the “freedom movement” who was pulled right back into the left/right paradigm.

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mh says:

August 26, 2024 at 6:51 pm

Decentralise Party
@DecentraliseP

“Javier Milei’s real name is Javier Mileikowsky.

That’s the same name as Benjamin Netanyahu’s father before he changed it to Netanyahu.

Javier Milei changed his name to hide his Zionist family history.

https://x.com/DecentraliseP/status/1727341307893592398

Coming soon – Peter Dutton is Peter Mileikowsky.

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Esme says:

August 26, 2024 at 6:52 pm

Never forget

What if I told you powerful U.S. government officials – such as former NIH Director Francis Collins and U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy – used religion in an attempt to convince faith leaders around the country to push the COVID-19 injections? A deep dive into the organization Faiths4Vaccines – a founding member of the HHS’ vaccine-propaganda machine COVID-19 Community Corps1 – has revealed just that.

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For example, at a May 2021 national summit for faith leaders, NIH Director Francis Collins – referred to as “Reverend-Doctor” – would address hundreds of faith leaders across the nation, claiming that the COVID-19 vaccines were God’s literal “answer to prayer” and urging faith leaders to believe that pushing the shots was a “love your neighbor moment.”6 In what was a sermon-like address tailored to appeal to these faith leaders, Collins admonished them not to believe “conspiracy theories” about “possible side effects” – which Collins falsely said were untrue.7

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Esme says:

August 26, 2024 at 7:09 pm

It has been reported that at-home learning learning enrolments in Queensland have increased by 229% in the past five years.

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Esme says:

August 26, 2024 at 7:21 pm

David Kurtenk

The IHRA definition of ‘antisemitism’ goes far beyond the general and correct position that incitement to violence is unlawful, and undermines and criminalises free speech.

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mh says:

August 26, 2024 at 8:23 pm

Nigel Farage MP
@Nigel_Farage

The arrest of Pavel Durov is worrying.

Telegram is a secure free speech app. It may have some bad actors, but then all platforms do.

What next… the arrest of Elon Musk?

2:05 AM · Aug 26, 2024 · 655.3K Views

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mh says:

August 27, 2024 at 7:32 am

It’s not the Faaaar Right so it’s “mostly peaceful”

Notting Hill stabbing festival!

Jeff Taylor
215K subscribers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMHTmHYfTYo

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mh says:

August 27, 2024 at 8:24 am

Andrew Bolt should have Nick Fuentes as a guest to highlight where Candy is wrong

‘A sick woman’: Andrew Bolt blasts Candace Owens as a ‘total kook’

Sky News Australia
4.56M subscribers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h2jQ-PMMO4

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kaysee says:

August 27, 2024 at 4:03 pm

So many news stories as well as the ones posted above.
I want to comment and respond but there’s too much to write on and too little time.

Examples:
– the weekend NT elections, coming up Qld elections, federal election
– Tanya Plibersek’s gold mine and solar panel farms, scams, electricity bills and shortages
– Covid jabs and scams, free speech censorship, conspiracy theories
– Gerard Rennick quitting the Libs and a new party
– other national news items……
– world news….

Plenty of topics for any serious commenters who want to contribute. It is not just the topics that the three of us post.

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kaysee says:

August 27, 2024 at 4:16 pm

More than a year ago, I came across a team of people aware of the Great Reset and finding ways to counter it – a Great Resist. I started writing posts – meant to be a series – but then time was against me and it got put on hold.

In the past few weeks, I have been reading something on similar lines by the same person – Derrick Broze. It is about finding solutions. How to survive against this Great Reset.

The People’s Reset
In the UK: 27-29 September 2024

What is it about?

– Empowering strategies for natural health and wellness
– Transformative sessions on food independence & permaculture
– Insights into decentralised technology and alternative systems
– Strategies for building free, conscious communities
– Connect with like-minded individuals dedicated to real change

2 short videos from Dan Astin-Gregory

Dan-1
The People’s Reset UK Activation Event is about creating a life of freedom, resilience and self-sufficiency!
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Dan-2
“What we really want to get across is, how do you come to this event and actually come away with practical strategies that you can implement at home when you go home?”

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kaysee says:

August 27, 2024 at 4:23 pm

Where is the logic in this?

Supporting Trump or RFK or Kamala Harris or any politician is not anti-establishment. People in positions of power don’t get there by being agitators or disrupters or dissidents. They get there by aligning and pledging allegiance.

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kaysee says:

August 27, 2024 at 4:51 pm

‘A sick woman’: Andrew Bolt blasts Candace Owens as a ‘total kook’

Sky News Australia

Andrew Bolt believes in Free Speech except when that speech is speech that is not nice about Israel, has Jew-hating lies, antisemitism. Then it is disgusting and the speaker is a sick woman. One year ago, would this same Andrew Bolt have been making exceptions about who is allowed free speech?

He works for Sky News. Ben Fordham works for Nine Entertainment.

Both Stephen Chavura and Daniel Wild are right on their defence of free speech.

Stephen:

We need to be very careful about maintaining a very robust free speech regime because there are so many people with their fingers on the trigger wanting to ban free speech.

If she was inciting violence, that would be very, very different …

Stephen and Daniel need to define “antisemitism” before they claim that there is high antisemitism in Australia.

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mh says:

August 27, 2024 at 5:14 pm

Those YouTube comments are really giving it to Bolt, lol

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kaysee says:

August 27, 2024 at 5:14 pm

The US Elections

Major pressing issues that matter to American voters when voting this election:

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kaysee says:

August 27, 2024 at 5:17 pm

And the winner is:

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mh says:

August 27, 2024 at 5:46 pm

Bolt says it was “shocking” that Milo was banned from Australia.

Milo Yiannopoulos-The Jews run everything!

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7t4dft

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Esme says:

August 27, 2024 at 6:17 pm

Those YouTube comments are really giving it to Bolt, lol

This is probably the best, simplest:

Censorship is far more dangerous than Candace Owens.

In a real liberal democracy, it would go without saying. Even Narrative Gatekeepers Network members regularly recite “censorship’s a hallmark of authoritarian regimes”. But
what we see suggests “aligning and pledging allegiance” by not only politicians but participants in the propaganda machine of our totalitarianism-with-a-smile times.

Ben Fordham, too. Andrew Bolt calls Candace Owens a “kook”; Ben Fordham called ordinary Australian citizens “cookers”.

And for all the “inciting violence is different” talk, I don’t recall a certain ejected tennis player inciting anything at all. (Though Peggy Hall’s pointed out even he went along with the oxygen-depriving slave symbolism of the mask.)

Stephen and Daniel need to define “antisemitism” before they claim that there is high antisemitism in Australia.

From the David Kurten link above:

Antisemitism is calling out or protesting against any crime committed by a Jew.

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kaysee says:

August 27, 2024 at 6:57 pm

In the daily news roundup, I see the proof of what is happening in Gaza. It is hard to read and watch because I can’t take it in dispassionately. Some of the scenes keep playing in my head.

Should I stop reading that news because it is too disturbing and I can’t do much? Pretend there isn’t a genocide taking place? Innocent civilians being persecuted and murdered?

No. The battle from this small blog continues.

The only ME democracy-1

Instead of imprisoning IDF soldiers that gang raped Palestinian hostages… Israel puts them on national TV as instant celebrities.

This is a sick and perverted nation

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Wadi Al-Rakhim, South Hebron Hills: Settler Shem Tov Loski sexually harasses a Palestinian and implicitly threatens him with rape.

The only ME democracy-3

Palestinians patients are fleeing Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital – the last functioning medical facility in central Gaza – after Israel issued more evacuation orders for the city of Deir el-Balah.

This is evil beyond anything we have witnessed in our lifetime… the last functioning hospital is about to be blown apart…

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Esme says:

August 27, 2024 at 7:10 pm

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Quite. Thank God for all the individual, truly ‘free’ voices out there.

So many news stories

I’ve lost interest in national “news” since Covid revealed just how unfree and “compliant” Australian society is. A coping mechanism, perhaps. As “they” continue to avert their gaze and try to distract ours, I find I’m not really interested in their “news”, either.

In the past few weeks, I have been reading something on similar lines by the same person – Derrick Broze. It is about finding solutions. How to survive against this Great Reset.

I’ve started looking at this, too. “Exit and build.” It’s a positive focus.

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kaysee says:

August 27, 2024 at 7:11 pm

News about Palestinian Christians?

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Hamas supporters?

You can hear the drone sound in the video. Palestinians in Gaza who haven’t been relieved from it for nine months. Yet despite it all, our Christian community is faithful in its prayers

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16 August 2024
Statement By The Jerusalem Patriarchate On Israel’s Impediments To Freedom Of Worship

The recent decision by the Israeli Police to ban Christian worshippers from participating in the sacred services of the Feast of the Transfiguration on Mount Tabor, citing the absence of requisite government approvals and licenses, has led to the regrettable closure of this holy site to thousands of faithful congregants.

This decision, reminiscent of last year’s similarly timed disruption, has left the Patriarchate of Jerusalem with little recourse. The recurrent Israeli portrayal of Christian prayers and religious ceremonies as private events necessitating security measures—an approach distinctly detached from the spiritual essence of these occasions—serves as a persistent excuse to impede Christians from exercising their faith.

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kaysee says:

August 27, 2024 at 7:25 pm

The Christian Zionists in the West think that Israel is their best friend and ally.

3/
Munther Isaac
26 August 2024
Happening in Bethlehem this week. Israel is annexing the West Bank and settlers activities is one an alarming rise
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Alice is a Palestinian Christian.
26 August
The IDF has arrested Alice Kaissieh and her mother from outside their home which has been stolen from Israeli settlers…

Activists had joined Alice to fight to take back her home and land from settler thieves

Update from Munther Isaac

Today I visited the Kisiya family. There were forcebly expelled from their land by the Israeli military, and now they are staying in a tent outside of their land. They were attacked by settlers, and Alice the daughter was arrested, (she was released for now today).

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kaysee says:

August 27, 2024 at 7:31 pm

I’ve lost interest in national “news” since Covid revealed just how unfree and “compliant” Australian society is. A coping mechanism, perhaps. As “they” continue to avert their gaze and try to distract ours, I find I’m not really interested in their “news”, either.

We need to know what is happening. The MSM version vs the facts. It is the same controllers around the world, so there are similar news incidents in Europe, America and here.

In terms of time, it is difficult for just the 3 of us to keep sharing news.

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Esme says:

August 27, 2024 at 9:12 pm

Wonder if Calley and Casey Means are the Narrative Gatekeeper Network’s counter to Dr Sam and Dr Mark Bailey

Trying to direct focus to food rather than virology.

@19:50 Dr Mark Bailey says they spent years trying to engage with Del Bigtree and (RFK Jnr’s) CHD to no avail.

Similarly, Katherine Watt in the comments here

RFK Jr. has never contacted me to discuss my work, and has never responded to any of my emails reaching out to him.
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Siri and Bigtree have also never contacted me to discuss my work, and have not responded to my attempts to contact them.

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mh says:

August 27, 2024 at 9:37 pm

Does Bolt believe Hitler should be banned from YouTube?

Adolf Hitler in English AI Reconstruction
2M views 7 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QgXIFzQi0Y&t=5s

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mh says:

August 28, 2024 at 7:46 am

American Pravda: YouTube Censorship and the Curious Case of Candace Owens • 51m ▶
RON UNZ • AUGUST 26, 2024 • 6,700 WORDS

https://www.unz.com/runz/youtube-censorship-and-the-curious-case-of-candace-owens/

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mh says:

August 28, 2024 at 8:25 am

Conclusion of the Ron Unz article

… Dissident circles frequently use the phrase “controlled opposition,” reflecting Lenin’s alleged strategy of creating a fake opposition movement that he himself could control and manipulate. Having watched a number of Candace Owens’ videos, she seems entirely sincere and I doubt very much that she represents any sort of “controlled opposition.” But I do think another relevant term might be “promoted opposition,” with the powerful establishment using its control over the media and major platforms to decide exactly which individuals will become its most prominent and visible public opponents. And perhaps the continuing survival and success of Candace Owens on YouTube might reflect that sort of decision.

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Esme says:

August 28, 2024 at 6:31 pm

“New Narrative Network” and funders

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Esme says:

August 28, 2024 at 6:33 pm

Announcing the Independent Media Alliance:

Not sure about another “alliance” but…

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Esme says:

August 28, 2024 at 8:27 pm

RFKTrumpuniparty talking chemtrails

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kaysee says:

August 29, 2024 at 3:00 pm

Probably one of the most important Free Speech cases in Australia.

Mary Kostakidis v Zionists

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Sydney-based law firm to defend pro-Gaza veteran broadcaster

A Sydney-based law and advocacy firm on Wednesday announced it will defend veteran broadcaster Mary Kostakidis from the charges brought against her by the Zionist Federation of Australia for sharing posts about the situation in Gaza.

“XD Law are proud to defend Mary Kostakidis from the charges brought against her by the Zionist Federation of Australia under s18c of the Racial Discrimination Act … for sharing tweets about Gaza,” the firm said in a statement posted on X.

Mary Kostakidis:

– The Australian Zionist Federation is weaponising Australian law in an attempt to curb criticism of Israel for its acts of genocide. I won’t be intimidated by them in the face of the slaughter of tens of thousands of children, hundreds of doctors, nurses, journalists and other civilians.

– Imagine a situation where we can criticise our own government’s policies and actions but not those of another state, depending on how powerful and cashed up their lobby groups are. They will continue to defame me in the press but please remember this is happening to journalists, academics and others all over the western world. We are on the right side of history and international law. I have no trouble standing up to bullies.

She is right.

It would be a public service to the country if the XD Law firm can also finalise the permanent definition of antisemitism.

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kaysee says:

August 29, 2024 at 3:34 pm

@19:50 Dr Mark Bailey says they spent years trying to engage with Del Bigtree and (RFK Jnr’s) CHD to no avail.

During the scamdemic, I watched some of Sam Bailey’s videos and wrote posts on a few of them. Learnt about the Covid “virus” and the life-saving “vaxx”. But I wasn’t aware that Drs Sam and Mark had made this big lifestyle change, moving to the country.

I am envious (in the good sense of the word) of the way they are living. Growing your own food and having your own livestock, cooking healthy meals, drinking purified water. The best part is the emphasis on eating meals together as a family, prayer and their Christian faith.

Faith, Family, Work. Healthy food, exercise. Home-schooling. Community.
Respecting God and nature. Everything else follows on…

Towards the end, Sam says to Peggy:

You do the same as us in that you shine the light of Truth onto things and that reduces people’s fear and I think that’s so so so important….

Shining the light of truth onto things for those who want to learn.

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kaysee says:

August 29, 2024 at 3:48 pm

American Pravda: YouTube Censorship and the Curious Case of Candace Owens

That is one long, detailed article by Ron Unz covering references to world issues by a host of commentators, platforms and YouTubers. The censorship of those who strayed over the line. This link needs to be saved somewhere because of its reference links.

But when it comes to Candace Owens, I don’t think he has got it right on his analysis.
“Controlled opposition” vs “promoted opposition”?

Doesn’t puppet-master controlling the puppet also use the same puppet for promoting some cause or ideology?

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kaysee says:

August 29, 2024 at 4:11 pm

Announcing the Independent Media Alliance:

Not sure about another “alliance” but…

It would be good to be able to get news from reliable investigative journos through one centralised location. It will be great source as long as it is not subscription-based or paywalled.

Derrick Broze

Myself, whitneywebb & TLAVagabond are organizing an alliance of independent media specifically focused on individuals who have been consistently correct and principled in their reporting on 3 core issues:

1. COVID1984
2. Israeli’s assault on Palestine
3. The Two-Party Deception

He’s got the focus right on the big three scams and the media narratives:
Covidism, Palestine, Uniparty

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kaysee says:

August 29, 2024 at 4:17 pm

We are specifically only interested in collaborating with people who were correct – from the beginning – on the above issues.

Yes. The ones who spotted the truth very quickly.
1/ Not the ones who went along with taking and promoting the jabs in 2020-21 and cheered for penalties to be imposed on the “anti-vaxxers”.
2/ Not the ones who accuse the truth-tellers about the genocidal Gaza war as “antisemites” and think that Israel is their ally and the only democracy in the ME.
3/ Not the ones who think that Deep State Trump is some saviour who is fighting the deep state and they get triggered by anyone who tells the facts about their hero.

We’ve already seen in 2024, many of those famous pro-Covid vaxxers doing an about-turn. When it is too late.

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kaysee says:

August 29, 2024 at 4:36 pm

To those in the audience who see the insanity that we see:

Hold tight to your critical thinking. We are going to do our best to unite the indie media outlets and individuals who still have principles to collaborate how we can and pushback against the quickly emerging “Mainstream Alternative Media”.

There are a number of people who see the insanity – but we are just spread thin over the world. We need to find a way to unite before the globalists find a way to censor us.

While Derrick Broze is working to unite independent media outlets, I wonder whether we can do something here on this blog. I have a few ideas, but it seems that it is just 3 of us who are prepared to speak up, think critically and share our opinions.

I am sure there are others. But there is no point if you are among the few who see “the insanity” that Derrick is referring to, but choose to stay silent.

I’ve written a 4-part series on the sanctity of the human life in the womb and the evils of abortion, but it seems as if it is a topic that doesn’t matter to anyone else.

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mh says:

August 29, 2024 at 5:28 pm

But when it comes to Candace Owens, I don’t think he has got it right on his analysis.
“Controlled opposition” vs “promoted opposition”?

It’s feasible that Candy O is still up on YouTube due to Deep Staters allowing her to muddy the waters with her endless stream of ‘conspiracy theories’ ie dinosaurs, flat earth, Macron’s wife. Not controlled, but allowed to continue – for now. No one knows for sure, Unz is just throwing it out there.

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Esme says:

August 29, 2024 at 5:56 pm

I am envious (in the good sense of the word) of the way they are living. Growing your own food and having your own livestock, cooking healthy meals, drinking purified water. The best part is the emphasis on eating meals together as a family, prayer and their Christian faith.

Same. Ideally we’d all be able to live something like this.

It would be good to be able to get news from reliable investigative journos through one centralised location. It will be great source as long as it is not subscription-based or paywalled.
…
He’s got the focus right on the big three scams and the media narratives:
Covidism, Palestine, Uniparty

Yes, it’s great in that way, and addresses what many awake individuals have expressed concerns about, in terms of controlled opposition, ‘late convert leaders’ etc. Those very sorts of concerns did have me wondering how much we could really trust any “alliance” on these platforms – centralising or ‘corralling’ dissidents not caught by the Trump&RFK Jnr narrative. I’ve seen some querying the way Whitney Webb’s been ‘promoted’, for example. I don’t know much about any of them. Great if genuine.

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Esme says:

August 29, 2024 at 6:05 pm

I’ve written a 4-part series on the sanctity of the human life in the womb and the evils of abortion, but it seems as if it is a topic that doesn’t matter to anyone else.

Perhaps it’s not that it doesn’t matter, kaysee – far from it…have you seen Peggy Hall talking about how she manages how much of the “insanity” she takes in, for her own wellbeing? She didn’t watch the Paris Olympics opening ceremony, for example, because she knew enough from what she’d read. And she chose not to cover Ukraine because many other people were covering it. Abortion is a particularly distressing subject and one which people may feel helpless to do anything about.

It is hard with just three people commenting, because you don’t get a variety of responses.

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Esme says:

August 29, 2024 at 6:11 pm

She is right.

Strange times, to be sympathising with an SBS presenter!

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mh says:

August 29, 2024 at 6:20 pm

It would be a public service to the country if the XD Law firm can also finalise the permanent definition of antisemitism.

There can be no permanent definition.
Let Rabbi Barclay explain:

This Is Crazy! Rabbi Barclay Attacks Me For Things I Never Said.

Candace Owens Podcast
3.21M subscribers

53:20 – Do definitions ‘mutate’?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ9GQ-gexhQ

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Esme says:

August 29, 2024 at 6:45 pm

There can be no permanent definition.
Let Rabbi Barclay explain:

Yes. Or Lewis Carroll:

“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”

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kaysee says:

August 29, 2024 at 6:59 pm

When 21-year old Kyle Rittenhouse said he wouldn’t be voting for Trump, Maga hit him hard with their responses. When pro-lifers say they will not be voting for Trump, they get nasty replies. That is how the cult responds to true conservatives.

News revealed in the past day is that one of the big Maga Influencers, Julie Kelly, around 700,000 followers, has been donating to the Kamala Harris campaign. There is proof by way of FEC filings. She hasn’t denied it. But the other Maga Influencers are rallying in to support her. They aren’t asking the questions.

Why not? They are all grifters on the Maga gravy train.

The Maga chief grifter – Republican nominee for President.

They are all playing their parts. Grifting.

Curb Your Enthusiasm

So what is the purpose of this abrupt, scripted volte-face and “plot twist”?

It appears to be as follows: the ruling classes want Trump in the White House this November, but are well aware that many lifelong Democrats, plus many of Trump’s own former supporters so badly let down last time (see RFK opening statement) would simply never vote for him. So, they sent in famed lifelong Democrat RFK – not only a hero to many because of his advocacy work on the environment and, more recently, vaccines (more of which later) – but the closest thing the American establishment has to royalty – a Kennedy, no less!

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mh says:

August 29, 2024 at 7:28 pm

53:20 – Do definitions ‘mutate’?

A few seconds after that point, Rabbi Barclay mentions Candy’s father in law. A veiled threat, lol

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kaysee says:

August 29, 2024 at 7:35 pm

..have you seen Peggy Hall talking about how she manages how much of the “insanity” she takes in, for her own wellbeing? …

Abortion is a particularly distressing subject and one which people may feel helpless to do anything about.

Peggy Hall is in the group of those who see the insanity, think critically and share the truth. So there is a limit to how much she and others like her (and us) can take on. I didn’t watch the Olympics either and am skipping certain topics because I don’t have the time and need to limit the insanity I take in.

But I think of the people on the receiving end, as in the war in Gaza, and wonder how my discomfort and uneasiness compare with the reality that the people there are experiencing. So I keep posting the news about the genocide as a reminder to the rest of the world.

The same with abortion. Saying nothing wins no battles. There are minds being changed when pro-abortionists see what happens during an abortion. Even speaking up and being prepared to say that we are pro-life, or passing on the videos to others and sharing their reactions helps to change opinions and save lives.

I am not referring to those of us who are doing the regular posting here. We can only do that much.

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kaysee says:

August 29, 2024 at 7:47 pm

A personal story
Shojaa al-Safadi is a Palestinian writer and poet.

Some things we can never rebuild

On the night of 6 October 2023, I was sitting in my home in the Gaza City neighborhood of Tel al-Hawa, engrossed in a book on Greek mythology.

I was reading about the myth of Achilles, a legendary hero whose body was immune to harm from arrows. His only weak point was his heel, which was the reason for his death in battle. Hence the term Achilles’ heel.

I was sitting in my chair in my beloved library, surrounded by the comforting presence of my collection of books. It was a collection started by my father, Omar al-Safadi, an avid collector of rare volumes, encyclopedias and dictionaries….

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mh says:

August 30, 2024 at 6:51 am

SECOND British journalist arrested for ‘crime’ of criticising Israel!

KernowDamo
67.2K subscribers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUh1t9PwjUg

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mh says:

August 30, 2024 at 8:51 am

Sunshine Coast
E-scooters unanimously binned after ‘very strong feedback’

The Sunshine Coast Council has unanimously voted to pull the pin on an e-scooter trial after community feedback revealed a majority of people did not want them on the region’s footpaths

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mh says:

August 30, 2024 at 2:35 pm

Died Suddenly

A Uruguayan footballer has died at the age of 27, five days after collapsing during a match in Brazil.

Juan Izquierdo was playing in a Copa Libertadores game in Sao Paulo when he went into cardiac arrest on Thursday.

His club Nacional announced his death in a post on X, saying they were “in grief for his irreplaceable loss”.

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Esme says:

August 31, 2024 at 2:38 pm

Weekend version of the national paper: antisemitism and Money, Money, Money

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Esme says:

August 31, 2024 at 2:51 pm

Words drifting into your ears can be worse for you than smoke drifting into your lungs.

or

Screen images drifting in through your eyes. Protect your consciousness.

https://x.com/FringeViews/status/1829568521023475968

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Esme says:

August 31, 2024 at 3:09 pm

“Vaccinating” children in Gaza

“Vaccination campaign in Gaza, in which we aim to vaccinate more than 640,000 children against Polio”

“The campaign will involve two rounds of vaccine given 4 weeks apart”

Two ‘shots’ 4 weeks apart.

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Esme says:

August 31, 2024 at 6:06 pm

Candace Owens: “Stopping a Catholic mother-of-three from coming into this country, that’s quite startling”

Mr Burke noted that he has ‘clear legal powers to knock back a visa to anyone who would incite discord’.

“Discord”! Discord. There will be no discord, no disagreement, no non-shared opinions in Australiastan! Refer to the The Australian newspaper, MSM TV or radio hosts, or the relevant government website as your sources of truth for approved thoughts and utterances.

She shouldn’t be too surprised, though. She did call for the US to liberate Australia from tyrannical Covid restrictions a few years ago. It’s the same country, even if the MSM celebrity chatter rings a bit hollower than before.

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kaysee says:

August 31, 2024 at 6:49 pm

Mr Burke noted that he has ‘clear legal powers to knock back a visa to anyone who would incite discord’.

He could ask Sky News presenters to make the decision.
Or a former Immigration Minister.

As for the Labor government ….

Does Candace really think that America is still the land of free speech and freedom?
‘In America, we care deeply about free speech – we care deeply about freedom in general… and so this completely shocked me,’ she said.

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kaysee says:

August 31, 2024 at 7:04 pm

Media reporting about October 7.

Aaron Maté on the Mass rape by Hamas story

Aaron-1
Israel and their media/political allies claim there was mass rape by Hamas on Oct 7
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Aaron-2
Update: Israel’s Channel 13 confirms that the “anonymous Israeli who witnessed Hamas rape on Oct 7 and then committed suicide” is a complete fake.
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Aaron-3
Israeli media has confirmed that a widely circulated claim about a purported “witness” of Hamas sexual violence on Oct. 7th committing suicide was yet another hoax.

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kaysee says:

August 31, 2024 at 7:13 pm

40 beheaded babies

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Story-3

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Esme says:

August 31, 2024 at 7:28 pm

a former Immigration Minister

href=”https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/scott-morrison-says-a-coronavirus-vaccine-would-be-as-mandatory-as-you-can-possibly-make-it/mcg55d7r1″>…and former “Liberal” Prime Minister

That great humanitarian. Apparently cast as the “freedom” party implementer of tyranny here, as Trump was in the US.

Does Candace really think that America is still the land of free speech and freedom?

It must be said that America is freer than here. They have their constitutional rights.

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Esme says:

August 31, 2024 at 7:30 pm

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/scott-morrison-says-a-coronavirus-vaccine-would-be-as-mandatory-as-you-can-possibly-make-it/mcg55d7r1

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August 31, 2024 at 7:35 pm

Katherine Watt

Understand that there is no safe vaccine, and there never has been a safe vaccine… Understand why and how your parents and grandparents and you and your children and grandchildren have all been deceived…

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mh says:

August 31, 2024 at 7:56 pm

Died Suddenly in Western Sydney

Auburn FC: Shock as player dies during soccer grand final as ‘heartbroken’ club mourns ‘our brother’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13799015/toongabbie-soccer-player-died-auburn-fc.html#:~:text=A%20man%20in%20his%2040s%20was%20found%20unconscious%20and%20declared,players%20'and%20our%20brother‘.

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Cold-Hands says:

August 31, 2024 at 8:36 pm

Powerline’s The Week in Pictures: Kamaladammerung Edition

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