Open Thread – Tuesday 17 August 2021

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  1. TailgunneR says:

    Lol, no one is ever “fully Vaxxed” mh!

    Especially when the die after a ‘short illness’

    Just listen to all the staunch communists as they go to the Wall.

    But,but,but….

    Shut up, traitor!

    Aim…FIRE!!


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  2. Delta A says:

    Steve trickler says:
    September 2, 2021 at 4:15 pm

    Excellent video, Steve. Thanks for posting.


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  3. TailgunneR says:

    Why has Canadia ordered enough killshots for 7 times the population?


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  4. calli says:

    This is how some countries are treating UK visitors who received their second shot back in March 2021.

     

    Correct.  And if they’ve had Covid, there’s an arbitrary time limit since the infection.  Out of the time limit and apparently your antibodies aren’t up to scratch or something.

    In effect, they’ve admitted it’s the flu.  For practical purposes, anyway.


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  5. Boambee John says:

    <i>TailgunneR says:
    September 2, 2021 at 5:17 pm

    Why has Canadia ordered enough killshots for 7 times the population?</i>

    Seven times the kickbacks?


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  6. mh says:

    And if they’ve had Covid, there’s an arbitrary time limit since the infection.  Out of the time limit and apparently your antibodies aren’t up to scratch or something.
    ***

    I’d like to the science backing up that policy.


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  7. TailgunneR says:

    No Thor, we just need some industrious resistance engineers to get to work on some copied STG-44’s, pronto.

    Or email the Talibs and buy some of their now excess AK-47s.

    They’re rolling M4s now!

    And carrying “Joe Biden” placards.

    They need $$$ too.

     


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  8. calli says:

    I’d like to the science backing up that policy.

    Don’t be ridiculous!  Science, as we once knew it, is dead.

    Now it’s “the vibe”.*

    *whatever we can get away with


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  9. TailgunneR says:

    Farmers can still access ammonium nitrate, right? Then get “robbed”?

     


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  10. cohenite says:

    “**Mr Inbetween**, not only is it second only to Deadwood because there’s a lot more of Deadwood,”

    I rank Deadwood no 1; Mr Inbetween in the top 10


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  11. Dot says:

    Anyone heard of the Pfeizer COVID pills to be taken regularly after the COVID shots?

     

    Will this shit ever end?!


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  12. Terry Pedersen says:

    I’ve mentioned the episode before,  I started getting sick in Portugal but was worst around 4/6? January when I was in North West Spain

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    Yes, you mentioned it around the same time that the old Riveter was wringing her hands about her girl child having to be tested because sniffles on return from China.

    Likely just a common garden variety traveller’s URTI in your case and hers.

    The first CCOVID case in Spain was not until 30 January 2020.


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  13. Terry Pedersen says:

    Maybe Pony Girl should consider reversing her ban on Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine.

    *************************************

    There is no chance of that. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine are anti-parasitics. They are not anti-virals. They just don’t work against viruses. Only stupid people believe they are of any use in treating COVID-19.


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  14. Steve trickler says:

    “In effect, they’ve admitted it’s the flu.  For practical purposes, anyway.”

    Yep.

    None dare forget this. Link to HCID available in the link. 19th March 2020.

    10TH FEBRUARY 2021

    As I reported on my website back in March, on March 19th, the public health bodies in the UK and the Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens decided that the new disease should no longer be classified as a ‘high consequence infectious disease’ (click on the link below to see the proof). The coronavirus was downgraded to flu level.

    A couple of days after this decision, the UK Government introduced lockdowns and introduced the most oppressive Bill in British Parliamentary history. The Emergency Bill, which was 358 pages long, turned Britain into a totalitarian state and gave the Government and the police unprecedented powers. Public meetings and elections were banned and there were new powers relating to ‘restrictions on use and disclosure of information’.

    There are still people who do not know that the coronavirus was downgraded to `flu’ threat back in March. Please send the link to MPs and newspapers. It proves that everything that has happened since March has been a lie.

    Here is the PROOF that covid-19 was downgraded in March 2020
    Link

     


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  15. incoherent rambler says:

    Is there a political party that will represent the interests of the unvaxxeningenated ?


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  16. rosie says:

    Not paying attention grigs.

    I said I likely picked it up in Rome Italy but nevertheless don’t think it was covid

    As I also said.


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  17. Ragu Ragu says:

    It is middle of the road, so what?

     

    It shows IgG levels falling as per normal, but not to zero. Also shows T and B cells remaining effective. What Bucktooth Manjaw Chant is intimating is that Vax and National immunity falls to zero after a couple of months, which is a bloody lie.


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  18. Steve trickler says:

    Troll detector device just gave me another zap.

    Zzzzzzzzzztttt.

     


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  19. Ruprecht Ruprecht says:

    It’s nice to read a blog where not everyone is in furious agreement with everyone else.


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  20. calli says:

    Ahhh…then you agree with me, Ruprecht.  How about that!

    😀


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  21. Ruprecht Ruprecht says:

    Sorry Calli, I must have missed what you said


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  22. egg_ says:

    Knuckle Dragger says:
    September 1, 2021 at 11:32 pm

    _roomba.

     

    Found me yet, or have you confused me with eight other people and got dates and times (and years) wrong again?

    You said you’d do it.

    Garn.  Do what you said you’d do.

    No?

    Commenting lightweight.  Physical heavyweight.

    ____________________

    Is this the best we can do for trolls?

    Effluent washed in from Housos Cat?


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  23. rosie says:

    Which blog have you been reading Rupie?


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  24. Delta A says:

    It’s nice to read a blog where not everyone is in furious agreement with everyone else.

     

    You are so absolutely, 100% correct, Sir.

     


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  25. Steve trickler says:

    This bloke has been on song since the get go. Clued up. You’ll need 15 minutes.

    Doc Coleman:

    International best-selling author and retired medical doctor, Dr Vernon Coleman, explains the truth about the plan to jab young children with an experimental drug, and explains why everyone has to take action now to halt the evil slaughter of the innocent.

    It Will Soon be too Late – For the Children

     


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  26. egg_ says:

    Next I’ll be called a silly 🐓.

    _________________

    That’s Rosie le Poulet’s domain.

     


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  27. rosie says:

    Poor calli

    I appear to have stolen your chook title.

    I guess that’s why he’s called ‘addled’

    And if someone wants to start a barney over at Dover’s jump right in.

    There’s always someone willing to oblige.


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  28. Indolent Indolent says:

    Malcolm Robert’s radio interview with Marcus Paul.

    (17) Truckies and Protests – 2SM with Marcus Paul – YouTube

    The first couple of minutes is about the death of Marcus Paul’s father.  Malcolm Roberts is absolutely outstanding, as always.


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  29. incoherent rambler says:

    Is this the best we can do for trolls?

    ==========

    They’re crazy.

    Talking to fsckn eggs. Seriously.


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  30. incoherent rambler says:

    Back on the road again.

     


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  31. egg_ says:

    And if someone wants to start a barney over at Dover’s jump right in.

    There’s always someone willing to oblige.

    ___________________

    The ever popular Clown Posse are on patrol?

    Where every day is Red Nose Day?


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  32. egg_ says:

    Plod-Apologists-R-Us

     


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  33. Muddy says:

    Subtlety is your friend, Gunner.

     

    ‘Bend and flow with the winds of their hatred,

    and you will take them to the destruction that they seek.’

    (From an episode of The Muppet Show, I believe).


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  34. Timothy Neilson says:

    Terry Pedersen says:
    September 2, 2021 at 5:57 pm

    The first CCOVID case in Spain was not until 30 January 2020.

    *********

    Slight clarification.

    The first identified COVID case n Spain was not until 30 January 2020.

    There are no rational grounds whatsoever for believing it to be impossible for COVID to have existed in Spain a few weeks before that.


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  35. calli says:

    Sorry, Ruprecht, I had to carve a leg of lamb.  Mmmmmm.

    Arguing is fun.  They only ever had me as first speaker though.  I was too likely to argue both sides.  Risky for debating.


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  36. Timothy Neilson says:

     
    Terry Pedersen says:
    September 2, 2021 at 6:05 pm

    ….

    There is no chance of that. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine are anti-parasitics. They are not anti-virals. They just don’t work against viruses. Only stupid people believe they are of any use in treating COVID-19.

    *********

    Slight clarification. They have not previously been used as anti-virals.

    In any case, who cares whether they are anti-virals or not? The only thing that matters is whether COVID patients who are given them have better recovery outcomes than COVID patients who aren’t given them. Maybe there’s nothing totally conclusive on the point, but the stats from India suggest that Ivermectin does have that effect, and Japan’s stats seem to have persuaded the Tokyo Metropolitan Medical Association to recommend it.

    So, who to think is “stupid”? The Tokyo Metropolitan Medical Association or Terry?

     


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  37. Top Ender says:

    It’s flag time again. Five new designs, but the poll favours the present one:
    Which is your favourite Australian flag design?

    The Reconciliation Flag 15%
    The ‘Down Under’ Flag 1%
    The Sunburnt Flag 10%
    The Golden Wattle Flag 3%
    The current Australian Flag 63%
    John Joseph’s Untitled Flag 8%

    Vote here:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9949493/Five-alternative-designs-Australias-national-flag-divide-internet.html


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  38. srr says:

    rosie says:
    September 2, 2021 at 6:42 pm

    Which blog have you been reading Rupie?

    __________________

    = “GIVE ME NAMES!”

    Yeah, nah, not falling for that old threat.

    Though it is good to note where it keeps coming from 🙂


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  39. rosie says:

    Good to see someone is consistent moronic.


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  40. Eyrie says:

    Those alternate flag designs truly suck.


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  41. Dot says:

    Funnily enough, the best one looks like a Centrelink logo.

     

    Australia should have had the Eureka Flag.

     

    Australia now is unworthy.


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  42. Axl Rosé says:

    Remove the Union Jack and replace it with the Chinese flag; and good to go.


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  43. Dot says:

    Indolent,

     

    Very important stuff that. Guest blog it please.

     

    https://www.news-medical.net/news/20201109/Majority-of-population-likely-has-pre-existing-immunity-to-SARS-CoV-2-claim-researchers.aspx

     

    From last year, but very important.

     
    By Sally Robertson, B.Sc.Nov 9 2020
    A team of researchers has conducted a study suggesting that the majority of the global population is likely to have pre-existing T-cell immunity to severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) – the agent responsible for the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic.

    The team – from the United States and India – says many people who have not yet been exposed to the virus probably already have SARS-CoV-2-reactive T cells as a result of previous exposure to viruses such as influenza and cytomegalovirus (CMV).

    The researchers say the study demonstrates that strong immunity among unexposed individuals can arise through cross-reactive T cell receptors (TCRs) against common CMV and influenza antigens that mount an early CD8 T-cell response to clear SARS-CoV-2.

    “This finding is in contrast to multiple published studies in which pre-existing T-cell immunity is suggested to arise from shared epitopes between SARS-CoV-2 and other common cold-causing coronaviruses,” say Amitabha Chaudhuri from MedGenome in Foster City, United States and colleagues from MedGenome in Bangalore, India.

    A pre-print version of the paper is available on the server bioRxiv*, while the article undergoes peer review.


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  44. Ragu Ragu says:

    Has this place gone 💥 again


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  45. cohenite says:

    So, who to think is “stupid”? The Tokyo Metropolitan Medical Association or Terry?

    Throw in professor Borody, professor Robert Clancy, the situation in India with Ivermectin being used successfully and as for Hydroxy, these studies:

    HCQ for COVID-19: real-time analysis of all 344 studies (c19hcq.com)

    Terry is looking a bit threadbare.

     

     


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  46. mh says:

    Laugh and think, this is Australia

    Told I was wasting my time’: Memphis’ mum fires back at CHO claims

    The mother of three-year-old Memphis, who has been stranded in NSW after repeatedly being denied an exemption to return home to Queensland, has fired back at claims there had been no requests.


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  47. HD says:

    Indolent says:
    September 2, 2021 at 7:00 pm

    Here’s another dating to June. A rather more in-depth article which compares the spectrum of SARS-Cov-2 and other coronaviri specific antibodies between recovered persons and persons pre-pandemic ( the controls).

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352396421002036

    Of particular interest, Figure 1, a-c.

    How very interesting. It says to me that vaccines were completely unnecessary if near a hundred percent of the population could respond.  That is to say that it can be clearly seen that the control (pre-pandemic) group had IgG antibodies specific to four different structural components of SARS-Cov-2.

    Figure 5 expands on the diverse spectrum of epitopal targets and for half the subjects, collection thereof,  of the virus structural regions. Like SARS-Cov-2 ever was much of a threat, any more than regular old influenza. Less actually.


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  48. mh says:

    There is no chance of that. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine are anti-parasitics. They are not anti-virals. They just don’t work against viruses. Only stupid people believe they are of any use in treating COVID-19.
    ***

    Grigsy, Ivermectin is effective as a prophylactic and treatment for Covid in part due to it’s immune enhancement properties.

     


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  49. mh says:

    Craig Kelly MP
    @CraigKellyMP

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    1h

    It was a pretty lonely place alongside #GeorgeChristensen in Federal Parliament this afternoon as we were the ONLY 2 MPs to vote to proceed with ‘NoPassports Bill 2021’ to BAN passports That’s the 2 of us in the red circle & everyone else on the other side voting against us


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  50. mh says:

    Two more dead after blood clots linked to AstraZeneca
    A man and woman in their fifties are the latest Australian deaths following blood clots linked to the AstraZeneca jab.


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  51. Cardimona says:

    People send me things.

    This came today via text – an analysis of Australian covid data as it should be reported from La Trobe Financial.

    https://imgur.com/a/04j9SGo


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  52. Axl Rosé says:

    Cardimona.

    Thanks.  Passed on that link.  Keep it simple. Too much deliberate statistical mumbo jumbo doing the rounds.


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  53. Eyrie says:

    This may seem a little familiar, sent by friend:

    Desperata (Kabul pre-taxi broadcast ATIS recording by a former mercenary pilot)

    Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what peace there may be in apathy. As far as possible be on good terms with all persons and be prepared to surrender your ideals in order to find acceptance from others. Speak your truth clearly; and listen to others. . . even the dull and ignorant; they too may be rich and powerful. Do not extend yourself; those who reach out are easily hurt. Accept the life-style you are handed. System-bucking is uneconomic and unwise, considering all you have to look forward to. In an ever-changing world, strive to be the same. Be yourself, whatever that means. Especially avoid affection. No-one likes a sook. Do not distress yourself searching for answers to deep questions of self-examination.. Be content with emotional charges from occasional religious activities.  Keep your religion, whatever you conceive it to be, separate from your mind. There is comfort to be found in vagueness. Avoid the enthusiastic; their feelings may be contagious. Beyond an occasional discipline, don’t push yourself. Reject kindly the counsel of the aged and experienced. They are well-meaning but things are different these days. Still, humour them – as you too may be old one day. You are a child of the system. No less than a credit card, you have a right to be here. And, whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as your perceptions will allow it. Whatever your labours and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life let not prejudice and fear break down your walls of contentment. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams; selfishness, corruption and self-defeating internal wars, emptiness, disappointment, carelessness and hate, fear, persecution, home-spun comforting philosophy and people, it is still a beautiful contract.

    By the last plane out, to the tug operator: “Be carefree; strive to be vapid; pushback when ready”

    and with some finality: ” Ground, disconnect and jump aboard. We’re outa here”


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  54. mh says:

    The deaths of a 59-year-old Queensland woman and a 54-year-old man from NSW last week have been linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine.

    The Therapeutic Goods Administration said both had received one dose of the vaccine and were assessed as likely having an *incredibly rare* blood clotting disorder that can result from it.

     


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  55. Boambee John says:

    <i>There is no chance of that. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine are anti-parasitics. They are not anti-virals. They just don’t work against viruses. Only stupid people believe they are of any use in treating COVID-19.</i>

     

    Perry the Verry Tedious One is too limited in intelligence to comprehend that a chemical might have more than one effect.

     

    Stick to doing the filing, it is about your level of capability.


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  56. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Now there is a new variant of interest, making up to twelve being watched to see if they develop into WHO variant/s of concern to public health control.

    Details here.  Link thanks to Refuge Discord.  Click on sidebar of the Discord thread to get this special entry page.


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  57. Lizzie of Sydney says:

    HCQ and Ivermectin (in particular) have shown anti-viral properties in vitro.


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  58. egg_ says:

    I had to carve a leg of lamb.

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    How’s it surviving on 3 legs?

     


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  59. Some quite good discussion going on here today!

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    twostix says: @ 4:54pm

    The government can only tell non-vaccinated people that they are under house arrest for as long as the emergency powers exist.

    __________________________________________________

    No wonder Morrison is sending out letters to everyone >60 to get the jab; once those emergency powers end there’s no way anything can be done to any citizen, whatever is being threatened – sorry – “promised!”

    Perhaps the letters will include an appeal to everyone’s better side – Do it for Auntie, or the budgie and the dog.

    Maybe, to encourage some peer group pressure, it will be delivered in a big, red envelope, so everyone in the neighbourhood will know you’re shirking your responsibility to the collective!

    Or, rather than stick with the “all pain no gain” stuff, he might include an incentive to encourage the stragglers – you’ll get the T-shirt –  “I survived the jab!”

    It could even be that he’ll go all out and offer everyone a sample bag with “Corona” playing cards and matching fridge magnet, and a “Spike Protein” face washer and Panadol and thermometer to check your temperature for the next 28 days while you deteriorate, and then finished off with you going in the draw to win a heart monitor, to be drawn just in time before you cark it!

    The final piece of the strategy, and as reported in the media today, that those who refuse the AZ will go to the “back of the queue on the Pfizer.”

    Funny how someone else once said something similar about a queue and being at the end of it.  Needless to say, it didn’t help that situation either – Brexit still happened.

     


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  60. mh says:

    INSOLVENCIES

    390 firms collapse as Covid wears business down

    Hundreds of businesses across Australia entered liquidation in August as worsening economic shutdowns gripped the country’s two most populous states. See the list of company collapses.

    1 HOUR AGO By DAVID ROSS


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  61. Knuckle Dragger says:

    I rooted a Kitteh once.

    Only once, because I was too fat and out of breath for another seven seconds of cardio.

    Guess who it is?

     

    Oh wait.


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  62. cohenite says:

    The final piece of the strategy, and as reported in the media today, that those who refuse the AZ will go to the “back of the queue on the Pfizer.”

    Pfizer has its issues.

    All vaccines have issues. The first iteration of the polio vaccine was a shocker:

    The Cutter Incident: How America’s First Polio Vaccine Led to a Growing Vaccine Crisis (nih.gov)

    But vaccines have literally saved 100s of millions of people, many of whom thoroughly shit me.


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  63. cohenite says: @ 10:13pm

    not against traditional vaccines, cohenite, just against these ones + the intimidation.


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  64. egg_ says:

    Almost Cate’s bedtime, I see.

    Got a mouth full of Black Balls?


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  65. egg_ says:

    Guess who it is?

    ____________

    Cate in her blue frock?


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  66. mh says:

    ‘But vaccines have literally saved 100s of millions of people, many of whom thoroughly shit me.’
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    Bill Gates doesn’t want to save millions of lives.


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  67. Dot says:

    *390 firms collapse as Covid wears business down

    At least 390 businesses across Australia entered liquidation in August as worsening economic shutdowns gripped the country’s two most populous states.*

     

    Don’t worry about it. Josh Frydenberger said we’re golden.


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  68. cohenite says:

    not against traditional vaccines, cohenite, just against these ones + the intimidation.

    Well of course. The AZ is a traditional vaccine form. Pfizer and Moderna are the new ones.

    Whether they’re good against the Delta is the issue:

    Is that what’s really going on? It’s certainly not the case in Israel, the first country to fully vaccinate a majority of its citizens against the virus. Now it has one of the highest daily infection rates and the majority of people catching the virus (77 percent to 83 percent, depending on age) are already vaccinated, according to data collected by the Israeli government

    I don’t know whether this incredible infection rate among the vaccinated is for the Delta. A comparison with unvaccinated can’t be made because the vast majority are vaccinated; so the issue is the efficacy of the Pfizer, which is what was used in Israel, against the Delta.


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  69. cohenite says:

    Bill Gates doesn’t want to save millions of lives.

     

    Bill gates can get fucked.


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  70. cohenite says:

    Steve trickler says:

    September 2, 2021 at 10:23 pm

    Suck shit you dweeby little ***t.

    Mark Dice:

    Parents Go Off at School Board Meeting After Marxist Teacher Exposed by Project Veritas

     

    I really hate teachers. Of the swamp types, bureaucrats, career pollies, woke board members, the media, I think teachers are the shittiest.


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  71. mh says:

    See the list of company collapses.
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    Dot can you see the list of “liquidated” companies?


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  72. Whether they’re good against the Delta is the issue:

    ___________________________________

    Not just that; there’s also major concerns about the significant side-effects, including deaths, especially when government wants to mandate them.  Your link to the polio story should give pharmaceutical companies (and governments) pause, especially when the risk of morbidity from the China Pestilence for the healthy is very small.


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  73. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘Cate in her blue frock?’

     

    Ahahahaa.  Chomp.

    So predictable.


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  74. Steve trickler says:

    Up we go!

    Hello, Delta A. All the best.

    The Dream Is Alive


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  75. Axl Rosé says:

    Omicron Variant sounds like a 1970s airport novel/B grade movie.

    Late October release?


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  76. egg_ says:

    Ahahahaa.  Chomp.

    _____________

    Same M.O. as M0ntifa.

    Claims victory, does celebration dance.

    Sad.

    Viet update?

    Tick, tick, tick…

     

     

     


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  77. Professor Higgins says:

    Egg.

    The men of Catallaxy do not regard the sniffing of a barstool as a sexual conquest.

    Back in your carton you sad little dweeb.


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  78. Professor Higgins says:

    And wrapping your todger in rice paper in your dingy bedsit is not “Viet sex” you sad dick.


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  79. Steve trickler says:

    IF you look closely, you get to see Christopher Reeve.

    Man of Steel Destroying the World Engine 720p

     

     


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  80. Dot says:

    *Dot can you see the list of “liquidated” companies?*

     

    No, paywallian.


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  81. Dot says:

    Thanks Mr Rosay.

     

    Now I’m gonna barf.


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  82. incoherent rambler says:

    This is a Starship Troopers level of propaganda coming from the feds and states.

    WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?


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  83. Professor Higgins says:

    “…
    Dot says:
    September 2, 2021 at 11:33 pm

    Thanks Mr Rosay.

     

    Now I’m gonna barf. …”

    .

    .

    Don’t forget to take you teeth out first.


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  84. egg_ says:

    The men of Catallaxy…

    ______________

    The Clown Posse are prolonging, as usual.

    Lowe Browe has had many mental lapses* lately – off to the Dementia Ward of God’s Waiting Rom, soon.

    *The Dementia Joe of the Housos blog.

    /”Could of”

    Betrayed by ‘umble roots.


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  85. egg_ says:

    wrapping your todger in rice paper in your dingy bedsit is not “Viet sex” you sad dick.

    __________________

    Plibbersack level of bile, right there.


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  86. FlyingPigs says:

    Steve T

    there could be A FLYING PIG amongst this… LOL

    pink floyd

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI4-r8Vx8qM


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  87. mh says:

    Bummer

    Woman, 19, ‘chokes to death on her vomit’ while riding ‘Kamikaze’ fairground ride: Turkish amusement park operators ‘refused to stop when parents saw she was in distress’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9950535/Teen-chokes-death-vomit-fairground-ride-parents-say-operators-refused-stop.html


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