Open Thread – Tuesday 17 August 2021

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  1. jo says:

    graeme do you really think a change of sock makes readers think you’re not a foolbore (intentional spelling) crackpot?


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  2. Professor Higgins says:

    What treatment would you have administered to your father in his dying days, Dr. Bird?


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  3. H B Bear says:

    The greatest gift from Birdie is his absence.  Alas we are spared.


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  4. min says:

    One of the biggest fear kids have is their mum or dad dying  . So Despicable Dan  rules that kids cannot play in playground because they might bring  COvid home . Then proceeds to warns everyone on TV daily that  Covid will kill you. .No wonder there are so many anxious kids out there . That’s the message kids pick up probably subliminally .that they could kill mum or dad .


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  5. mh says:

    This is what happens when Victorians selfishly watch the sunset:

    National News Live

    Victoria records 176 new local COVID-19 cases, the state’s highest daily total this year
    Victoria’s highest daily total for 2021 includes more than 90 mystery cases.


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  6. mh says:

    TERRY MCCRANN

    Earth to idiots: We are in recession
    Forget the latest growth figures, the whole country is in recession right now as businesses go bust and people lose jobs.
    ***

    I can’t see this article, but is Terry suggesting GDP figures are not telling the whole story? /sarc


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  7. rosie says:

    No doubt calli will be heartbroken Thor.

    I know I am.


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  8. Axl Rosé says:

    Total bullshit being talked about history and current events over at Dover’s place right now. Its all fantasy.

     

    Like plugging yourself back into the Matrix.


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  9. Ragu Ragu says:

    Hyponaturemia is a big killer of the geriatrics.


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  10. twostix says:

    VICTORIA

    Ten more weeks of lockdown on the cards

    Five million Melburnians are facing the reality that they are four weeks into a lockdown that could last for another 10.

     

    I can’t believe people are still slumbering away dreaming about this.

     

    The literally told us these lockdowns are going on until 80% adult vaccination rates are achieved nationally.

    But even that’s a lie, as Gladys and Chant have said it’s not even ending then.

    And QLD just moved the goal posts again to it being 80% of everyone, down to babies when they lock us down NSW and Vic like – which they’re itching absolutely gagging to do.

    The era of ‘case’ based lockdown lifts is over, this is phase 2 of their plan: vaccination based lockdowns.   I.e mass house arrest until you comply with a political policy decided by a secretive new government called the ‘national cabinet’ that nobody elected, and whose members have abolished state parliaments and all oversight.

     

     

     

    I’d say we’re operating on about 35% medical  /public health and 65% politics now.

     

     


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  11. calli says:

    *sob*

    I’m all hurty now.  Next I’ll be called a silly 🐓.

    Why are you so worried about what I write on another platform?  It isn’t as if I’ve been deceitful and posted under another name just for shits and giggles.


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  12. caveman says:

    GDP figures based on Dan Murphy’s . They should be double next quarter.

    Or GDP(physcops) which will also double next quarter.

     


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  13. mh says:

    I wonder if Australian students would do even this little:

    Eric Lupher

    @EricLupher7

    7h

    Students at Thunder Ridge High School in Highlands Ranch are fed up with masks. They walked out of class this morning in protest

    https://twitter.com/EricLupher7/status/1433096039502733312?s=20


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  14. mh says:

    ‘Telstra unveils rewards for vaccinated customers’

     


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  15. twostix says:

    What are we going to do when we realise that power, literally and honestly does corrupt people, and these people and their backers – both parties, now totally corrupted by the last 18 months of total power, are not going to give it up.

    Who is going to make them, when they simply suspend parliament at a whim, gin up the mob against any resistance, and are locked into power for 3, 4 years?

    Very medieval. England had a civil war over just such a thing, parliaments will have to sit in defiance of the government, let’s see the government send the police into the chambers with their billy clubs.

     

     

     

     

     


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  16. Shy Ted says:

    Jacinda goes into fashion. Her shoe line.


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  17. mh says:

    Dr. Suneel Dhand – MedStoic Lifestyle Medicine

    Sweden was an outlier among western nations in not implementing any mass lockdowns or widespread mask mandates. Here, I dig into the data, and see how Sweden has done


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  18. calli says:

    I thought you were a good Catholic

    You. Thought. Wrong.

     


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  19. struth says:

    When you have never been brainwashed by global corporate media, this is how your mind works.

    If wearing masks is necessary to stop the covid germs spreading via breath/saliva etc, why do they need to test for the virus ten centimetres up your nasal passage?

    They’re ‘aving a larf, and in this one act the sadistic nature of those in charge via gunpoint show their hate for humanity.


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  20. rosie says:

    I was very sick and had a great deal of trouble breathing but spent one night in particular overdosing on ventolin and my super preventer.

    I’ve mentioned the episode before,  I started getting sick in Portugal but was worst around 4/6? January when I was in North West Spain and had I been home in Australia would have taken myself to hospital but being in Europe would rather die than make a fuss. One extremely bad night then improved and about back to normal around the 8th.

    But I don’t know it was covid and would never claim it was for sure.

    Definitely a virus of some description.


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  21. HD says:

    Mark A says:
    September 2, 2021 at 3:42 am

    Well Mark A, I don’t think it’s a case of being able to prove or disprove the paper. The paper compares known numbers of vaccinated, unvaccinated, infected and re-infected relevant to time intervals relating all four. Other than to say a portion of the RT-PCRs used to confirm SARS-2-Cov infection/ re-infection may have been false positives, though surely not all of them.

    So as the results section of the paper state :

    “SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021”.

    That the longer post vaccination, the greater the risk of breakthrough infection:

    “The increased risk was significant … for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination(from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold … increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold…increased risk for symptomatic disease. ”

     


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  22. rosie says:

    Calli a Catholic.

    So disappointing to see Thorrie muddle facts.

    Compliment though 😉


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  23. incoherent rambler says:

    Are Danodeath’s new lockdowns an attempt to keep a lid on the rising number of protests?

    If so, should we be out there telling people to stop chanting “Freedom” so we can be released from our cages?


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  24. incoherent rambler says:

    Come to think of it, I now know how a Lilydale Chicken feels.

    Will it be painful? quick? slow? Will my packaging be a nice colour? What will they do with my head?

    So many unanswered questions.


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  25. Top Ender says:

    Shy Ted says:

    September 2, 2021 at 9:58 am

    Jacinda goes into fashion. Her shoe line.

     

    Ted – link does not work…goes to a page which says “hotlinking is not allowed”.


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  26. struth says:

    Amazing.

    The ignorance and utter hypocrisy and arrogance of a media calling people names for protesting who would never have to protest if the media did their jobs.


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  27. Top Ender says:

    Covid Qld: No need to wait for children to be vaccinated, say experts

     

    Medical experts are appalled as Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says children’s welfare is the reason she still can’t lay out a plan for reopening the state.

     

    Ms Palaszczuk yesterday appealed to parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles as she declared the fate of children was “the most serious issue that our country will face” and opening up would be exposing the most vulnerable.

     

    After committing to a National Cabinet plan to relax restrictions last month, the Premier said she now needed extra Doherty Institute modelling to show how children would fare before she could tell Queenslanders what life would look like when vaccination rates reached 80 per cent.

     

    “Unless there is an answer on how these young people are going to be vaccinated, you are putting the most vulnerable population at risk,” she said.

     

    “So anyone who has grandchildren, or young children, or nephews or nieces know how that plays on people’s minds.”

     

    She added: “What’s going to happen to the children?”

     

    But the comments were questioned by health experts, who said keeping borders shut to protect children was not sensible.

     

    Veteran paediatrician and vaccine expert Professor Robert Booy, who is also a member of the national Immunisation Coalition, said Ms Palaszczuk needed to use common sense in her decision, as children were not at high risk.

     

    Should the Premier commit now to opening up Queensland at 70-80 per cent vaccinated?

    Yes

    87 %

    No

    13 %

    6582 votes

     

    “I have been a paediatrician and have worked in the promotion of vaccinations for decades,” Prof Booy said.

     

    “If I thought young children needed urgent vaccination, I would say so.

     

    “Keeping borders shut because of the children is not a sensible measure.”

     

    He said young children would not be vaccinated until next year, and Ms Palaszczuk did not need to wait for new modelling.

     

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  28. mh says:

    ‘NSW has recorded seven more deaths and 1288 new Covid cases as the state passed a new vaccine milestone…

    The latest deaths included four people aged in their 80s, a woman in her 70s, a man in his 50s and a man in his 70s who was double vaccinated’

     

     


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  29. mh says:

    ‘This is why its such a shame that JC is on the dark side.  He’s rich enough to set up a retreat to keep his people safe…’

    ***

    Who are JC’s people?


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  30. rosie says:

    I could have been dead a few times Thor.

    As for you calling others nutty, delightful!

    What’s figures going to say when he finds out you think covid is real?


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  31. caveman says:

    If you open link up in a private browser it will work.


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  32. Vicki says:

    Good grief ….. just heard Kerry Chant say that vaccination is superior to natural immunity & that those who have recovered from COVID should get vaccinated after 6 weeks. This once in spite of a journo’s comment that GPs are davising no vax after COVID recovery for at least 6 months.

    As if that was not enough, Chant went further & suggested that vaxx would be continual in the future, & that she hoped Australia would become the most vaxxed country in the world!

    Boy, are they on a mission!


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  33. Vicki says:

    Oh… & Gladys’ latest remark ” this pandemic is a pandemic of the unvaccinated”.

    And Israel and other countries where CV among the vaxxed is outpacing the unvaxxed?


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  34. Professor Higgins says:

    So what is stopping you from turning your old man’s plot into a hippy-shit farm, Bird?

    Is it your lack of knowledge as to where to start?

    Is it that the self proclaimed smartest guy in the room is flat broke approaching retirement age?

    Ehat?


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  35. Figures says:

    If you have cold and flu symptoms one fortnight you will have noticed that you won’t catch another cold the next fortnight, even though cold causing viruses are supposed to be numerous.

    Which proves that the entire germ theory is abject nonsense. Under germ theory, being sick would make us more susceptible to every other germ that is around us. Nobody could survive even the most innocuous initial infection.

     

    Its hard to believe that this fraud has been going on more than a century but it happens to be the case.  Figures rules out any shot ever helping anyone.

     

    Well what would have you me do? Once you realise that doctors use vaccine status as a key part of their diagnosis and that we typically demand higher diagnostic criteria today (eg lab testing) then *all* the data we rely on to “prove” vaccines work disappears.

     

    So that accounts for the so-called epidemiological data. From there it’s just a simple matter of realising that most everybody survives a trip to the doctor so diseases clearly are not contagious. That’s not an observation I’m making up by the way. Anybody can see that. Grass is green because we can see that it’s green. Diseases aren’t contagious because we can see that people don’t drop dead when they enter a doctor office.

     

    In addition, even if you accept that germs cause disease, vaccinations are predicated on *all* infections being acute (rather than long term). But we actually vaccinate specifically against chronic infections! Complete lunacy. When doctors realised that germs can be harboured in our bodies for a long time the entire germ theory/vaccination paradigm should have crumbled. But trillion dollar institutions don’t let go that easily. They double down.

     

    I don’t know about rabies or tetanus.

     

    I do. There is no evidence that encephalitis or lockjaw are rarer today than before those respective vaccines. In both cases, doctors just won’t diagnose rabies or tetanus because they assume the vaccine has prevented it.

     

    As an aside, rabies (and to some extent tetanus and many cancers) are perfect examples of self-fulfilling prophecies. Once doctors believe that a disease has a near 100 per cent fatality rate then that’s typically what will occur – even if the disease is harmless. The Milwaukee protocol for rabies is to induce a coma and give the patient enough drugs to kill them. Funnily enough, they die. What do doctors blame? The virus!

     

    The rabies vaccine *appears* to be successful because if they administer it early enough after a bite then there’s a chance that the doctors won’t put you on this treatment. So even if the vaccine killed 50 per cent of its recipients it would still, according to doctors, be a wonder drug!

     

    There are only a tiny tiny number of people on the planet who have ever wrapped their heads around the fundamental flaw of epidemiology – which is weird because it’s pretty damn simple.


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  36. Vicki says:

    “Turn off the BBC and do some research” Londoners protest U.K. vaccine passports

    Thanks Steve, that was fascinating.

     

    I notice they are describing Australian situation as “dystopian”.Right on.


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  37. caveman says:

    “Pandemic of the Unvaxxed”

    That’s a movie title right there.

     


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  38. Carpe Jugulum says:

    Morning All

    Just popped in the feed the Nano Wrigglers and Karcher out their gladiator pen.

     


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  39. calli says:

    Boy, are they on a mission!

    They certainly are.  They are marginalising and blackmailing because gaslighting failed with a recalcitrant half million or so.

    The PM has our names and is supposedly writing to us.

    What next?  Hold out and it’s imprisonment?  Hang on…almost there.


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  40. incoherent rambler says:

    I guess my tombstone will read : ” One of the recalcitrant 20%”


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  41. Ragu Ragu says:

     

    One of the recalcitrant 20%

    That outlived the compliant 80%

     


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  42. mh says:

    Today Show poll results on mandatory vaxx for frontline healthcare workers

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-OwekMWYAEZeWc?format=jpg&name=large


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  43. Old School Conservative says:

    tackled to the ground  by four lumbering policemen

    ___________________________________

    The only good thing coming out of that disgraceful incident is the public humiliation of female plods who were as useless as tits on a bull during physical confrontation.


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  44. Old School Conservative says:

    “They are making it up as they go along” episode 4367:

    “The Victorian government has cut the waiting time between AstraZeneca doses in a bid to accelerate the vaccine rollout from 12-weeks to six.”

    But trust the science! Follow health advice! Our CHOs are the best (money can buy)!


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  45. Ragu Ragu says:

     

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    《From there it’s just a simple matter of realising that most everybody survives a trip to the doctor so diseases clearly are not contagious.》

     

    Dude. Nosocomial infections are huge killers. Instead of hanging on a doctors lobby, why don’t you go and lock a hospital floor?

     


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  46. mh says:

    Joe Rogan felt unwell, tested positive for Covid, then tried a whole lot of treatments. He “threw the kitchen sink at it”, now feels good.

    https://twitter.com/LegendaryEnergy/status/1433174814479380483?s=20


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  47. Figures says:

    The ability of a bacteria to be able to create botulism toxin, said to be the most powerful toxin in nature … that at least makes the mainstream theory somewhat plausible,  though not proven.

     

    You needn’t worry because I have an answer to everything. Bacteria can only attack dead/injured cells. That is obvious because otherwise the 40 trillion bacteria that reside in us would kill us every single day. They can only produce toxins in particular (unhealthy anaerobic) environments. Again, that is clear because otherwise we would all be dead many times over. Bacteria cannot attack healthy cells.

     

    But wait you say. What about antibiotics? Surely they must prove that bacteria can cause illness. Except they don’t. Antibiotics are recognised by the body as poisonous and so we go back into a conflict state. Ironically (but if you understand German New Medicine it makes perfect sense) this conflict state is more comfortable than the healing state that we were in prior to taking the antibiotics. Now it’s true that sometimes the healing state can involve so much swelling that it’s actually dangerous (eg a very severe case of pertussis or diphtheria cutting off breathing) and so ameliorating the healing phase is actually a good idea (although you would want to use things like Vitamin C rather than antibiotics).

     

    I will give you the following common knowledge observations that make it clear that the above is true.

    So-called antibiotic resistance was observed basically as soon as they were used. If the germs mutated so quickly, how could any of these drugs still have any impact today? They couldn’t obviously. So mutation has nothing to do with the ostensible failure of these drugs to work in some (usually around one third) of people. The actual reason they don’t appear to work in some people is simply because the body remains in a healing phase despite its being poisoned. This makes sense in the same way that our bodies always develop a tolerance to poisons so we require greater numbers of antibiotics before our bodies recognise the antibiotics as toxic – thereby starting off a conflict phase. Kind of like if you have a cold and you go out drinking you feel much better and forget about the cold. Until, of course, the morning when you feel hangover and the cold is worse.
    Antibiotics can kill germs in Petrie dishes but not reduce symptoms in the patient.
    Antibiotics can reduce symptoms in the patient but not kill germs in the Petrie dish.
    If antibiotics worked then recurring infections would be practically non-existent. After all, we would have immunity (according to the paradigm) so we should be less susceptible after a round of antibiotics to the same illness. But that is certainly not the case. People who take antibiotics more likely than not, go back again for the same condition with an increasing amount of antibiotics in each round.

    Of course, all of this is academic now because civilisation, and quite possibly humanity, is going to end. I just wish I could find a way to protect my kids from the soon to be slaughter.


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  48. Figures says:

    Dude. Nosocomial infections are huge killers. Instead of hanging on a doctors lobby, why don’t you go and lock a hospital floor?

     

    You do realise that doctors and nurses spend most of their waking lives in these places don’t you? And they’ve been doing this for thousands of years – long before PPE or vaccines.

     

    Hospital “infections” are just what doctors tell people to excuse the fact that their treatments have harmed them.


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  49. candy says:

    What next?

    ——————-

    I still think it will be getting Coles and Woolies to refuse entry to the unvaccinated.

    They could always threaten no treatment at GPs or hospital unless vaccinated, but that’s almost unthinkable that could happen here, isn’t it?

     


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  50. mh says:

    Defiant Palaszczuk predicts ‘2240 deaths a month’ if borders open
    The Premier remains defiant in the face of widespread criticism, insisting in a series of tweets thousands will die each month if borders open.
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    Maybe Pony Girl should consider reversing her ban on Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine.


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  51. Figures says:

    Sorry. It didn’t come out in the dot point format I wanted.

    I will give you the following common knowledge observations that make it clear that the above is true:

     

    So-called antibiotic resistance was observed basically as soon as they were used. If the germs mutated so quickly, how could any of these drugs still have any impact today? They couldn’t obviously. So mutation has nothing to do with the ostensible failure of these drugs to work in some (usually around one third) of people. The actual reason they don’t appear to work in some people is simply because the body remains in a healing phase despite its being poisoned. This makes sense in the same way that our bodies always develop a tolerance to poisons so we require greater numbers of antibiotics before our bodies recognise the antibiotics as toxic – thereby starting off a conflict phase. Kind of like if you have a cold and you go out drinking you feel much better and forget about the cold. Until, of course, the morning when you feel hangover and the cold is worse.

     

    Antibiotics can kill germs in Petrie dishes but not reduce symptoms in the patient

     

    Antibiotics can reduce symptoms in the patient but not kill germs in the Petrie dish.

     

    If antibiotics worked then recurring infections would be practically non-existent. After all, we would have immunity (according to the paradigm) so we should be less susceptible after a round of antibiotics to the same illness. But that is certainly not the case. People who take antibiotics more likely than not, go back again for the same condition with an increasing amount of antibiotics in each round.

     


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  52. Old School Conservative says:

    “Monday December 20, 2021 appears to be the week when Qantas expects to resume flying to a select group of international destinations,

    It’s obviously up to government exactly how and when our international borders re-open,” Qantas Group CEO Alan Joyce cautions, but we have told them what to do and like Rugby Australia they will bend to our will.” The Oz.

    (some of the above may or may not be true)


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  53. struth says:

    Joe Rogan felt unwell, tested positive for Covid, then tried a whole lot of treatments. He “threw the kitchen sink at it”, now feels good.

     

     

    ……………………………………………….

    He caught a cold, the test doesn’t pick out the different coronaviruses.


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  54. cohenite says:

    Hospital “infections” are just what doctors tell people to excuse the fact that their treatments have harmed them.

    Antibiotics can kill germs in Petrie dishes but not reduce symptoms in the patient

    Antibiotics can reduce symptoms in the patient but not kill germs in the Petrie dish.

     

    You really are a ratbag when it comes to vaccines and medicine generally; you’re like an urbane bird; it’s a pity really because you occasionally make sense on other topics. It’s like you’ve had a lobotomy in one small logic area of your brain.


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  55. Ragu Ragu says:

     

    Maybe all the THC in Rogan’s system helped

     

    《You do realise that doctors and nurses spend most of their waking lives in these places don’t you? And they’ve been doing this for thousands of years – long before PPE or vaccines.》

     

    You do realise that doctors and nurses get just as crook as everyone else

     

     


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  56. Ragu Ragu says:

     

    《If antibiotics worked then recurring infections would be practically non-existent. After all, we would have immunity (according to the paradigm) so we should be less susceptible after a round of antibiotics to the same illness. But that is certainly not the case. People who take antibiotics more likely than not, go back again for the same condition with an increasing amount of antibiotics in each round.》

     

    You moron. Antibiotics are not Immunoglobulins and further, your body doesn’t naturally produce for example, streptomycin, after taking a scripted dose.

     

    Secondly, people generally get reinfected because the Drs have no foocking clue as to the ethological agent. They are misprescribing on the basis it could be S. aureus when it’s most likely P. aeruginosa, for example. which leads to secondary, more serious infections like bronchitis


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  57. mh says:

    Maybe all the THC in Rogan’s system helped
    ***

    If Fauci said this, the Australian media would parrot it.


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  58. Old bloke says:

    incoherent rambler says:
    September 2, 2021 at 11:54 am

    I guess my tombstone will read : ” One of the recalcitrant 20%”
    ________________________________________________

    The full transcription reads….

    “One of the recalcitrant 20% who survived to bury the compliant 80% and feed their grandchildren”

     

     


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  59. Professor Higgins says:

    Bird.

    You didn’t answer why you didn’t convert the old man’s twelve acres into the hippy-shit farm.

    What was the barrier?

    Money?

    Know how?

    Laziness?

    All of the above?


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  60. Fat Tony says:

    incoherent rambler says:
    September 2, 2021 at 11:54 am

    I guess my tombstone will read : ” One of the recalcitrant 20%”

    More likely just ashes blown from the chimney at some death camp.


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  61. Professor Higgins says:

    Can’t be bothered scrolling, Bird.

    So it was a combination of laziness and lack of practical know-how, right?


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  62. Chris says:

    VERY interesting article at Quadrant website now, about the roots of Amnesty International.

    Also illuminates the farming of useful idiots for the purposes of Soviet power, which set us on the road to having a society whose elites are enforcing values that will wipe the society out.


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  63. Axl Rosé says:

    23 October 1976

    I posted this on another blog in response to a flat-earther.  Thought I’d put it up here for a nostalgia trip.


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  64. Top Ender says:

    Swastikas and other hate symbols are set to be banned under new laws to be introduced in Victoria next year.

     

    The Andrews Government on Thursday announced public display of Nazi symbols would become illegal in response to a parliamentary committee report that recommended the change in March.

     

    It will be the first ban of its kind in Australia.

     

    Anti-vilification laws will also be altered to include protections in areas such as sexual orientation, disability, sex and HIV/AIDS status.

     

    This will include changes to make vilification easier to prove in civil and criminal cases.

     

    Legislation to ban Nazi symbols will be introduced in the first half of 2022, with consultation to begin on possible exceptions such as for museums.

     

    “All forms of hate are unacceptable and have no place in Victoria – expanding our anti-vilification laws to protect more Victorians sends a clear message that this vile behaviour will not be tolerated,” Attorney-General Jaclyn Symes said.

     

    “I thank the committee and all those who participated in the inquiry for their work on these complex issues.

     

    “Our new laws will build upon their efforts and we will make sure we consult widely with the community and impacted groups to get the settings right before making legislative changes.”

     

    Opposition police and community safety spokesman David Southwick, who was also on the committee that proposed the ban, welcomed the news.

     

    “It’s a great day for those that have suffered abuse and hate from the evil Nazi swastika,” he said.

     

    “It is great to see Victoria leading the way on this.

     

    “There is no other symbol like the Nazi swastika that has taken the evils of the past and been used in the present day.

     

    “We’ve also seen an increase in white supremacist neo-Nazi groups that have sprung up, it’s really important to be able to disarm those groups to ensure we don’t have ongoing hate and violence in our state.

     

    “Victoria has always been a multicultural state that has celebrated diversity.”

     

    A parliamentary inquiry was sparked after a spate of incidents in which the swastika and other hate symbols were grafittied in public places, drawing widespread condemnation.

     

    It also explored whether current anti-vilification laws were strong enough to protect against hate crime, and recommended topics such as sexual orientation and disability be included in this legislation.

     

    In March, committee chair Natalie Suleyman said Victoria had racial and religious laws in place but questions had been raised over whether they were useful in stopping a trend of rising hate crime.

     

    Planning is now underway on the best way to offer these increased protections.

     

    Input will be sought from community groups as the government weighs up recommendations that will require current laws to be changed.


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  65. Top Ender says:

    Two of my edged weapons would be therefore presumably illegal and impossible to sell legally, under the new laws.


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  66. Figures says:

    You do realise that doctors and nurses get just as crook as everyone else

     

    Precisely. “As crook as” rather than “drop dead five minutes into their career”. If the germ theory were true, life insurance would be impossible for any health care worker.

     

    You moron. Antibiotics are not Immunoglobulins and further, your body doesn’t naturally produce for example, streptomycin, after taking a scripted dose.

    I never said the antibiotics provided immunity. I said that your body would produce the relevant antibodies as the abx helped it overcome the infection (assuming the paradigm is correct) so you should be much safer rendering reinfection extremely unlikely. But recurring abx use is extremely common.

    Secondly, people generally get reinfected because the Drs have no foocking clue as to the ethological agent. They are misprescribing on the basis it could be S. aureus when it’s most likely P. aeruginosa, for example. which leads to secondary, more serious infections like bronchitis

     

    Which brings me back to one of my other critical points. The antibiotics can work in a Petrie dish but be completely useless in the patient, and vice versa. This makes it clear that the antibiotics are most assuredly not “working” the way people think they are.

     

    If doctors prescribed the “wrong” abx and the germ theory was correct, then their symptoms wouldn’t reduce in the first place. But they do. It’s just later (perhaps a week, a month, six months etc) that they revert back to the same symptoms. This, again, means that the abx are not working the way people think they are.

     

    you’re like an urbane bird; it’s a pity really because you occasionally make sense on other topics.

     

    I really wish I was wrong. Who wouldn’t? The germ theory/vaccination paradigm is the prettiest lie ever told. But it’s still a lie. The reason I make sense on other topics is because I make sense on everything. Including this issue.

     

     


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  67. Axl Rosé says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

    Just make sure it isn’t a NAZI swastika; and all good.


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  68. H B Bear says:

    The Chook going rogue.  This will give hope to jumped up tuck shop Mums across Australia.


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  69. Figures says:

    “Hate has no place in Victoria”.

     

    I’m guessing that they will make an exception for the unvaccinated.


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  70. Steve trickler says:

    😜
    Del Bigtree:

    Post #Covid19 vaccination, NSW Customer Service Minister, Victor Dominello, received a diagnosis of Bell’s palsy after worried viewers of a press conference noticed his drooping face and urged him to seek medical attention. He denies his diagnosis has anything to do with the vaccine, even though Bell’s Palsy is a listed side effect, with over 3,000 reports on the VAERS database.

    BELL’S PALSY DIAGNOSIS AFTER VACCINE


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  71. caveman says:

    “All forms of hate are unacceptable and have no place in Victoria”

    Does that also mean architecture, like Federation Square.


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  72. calli says:

    He denies his diagnosis has anything to do with the vaccine,

     

    Mandy Rice-Davies comes to mind.

    or

    *waves hands enigmatically*

    This is not the side effect you seek.


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  73. calli says:

    Treat the virus like a criminal – Police Commissioner

    Anti-vax is the pandemic – CHO

    Can anyone spot the dangerous connection?


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  74. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:

    <<treat-the-virus-like-a-criminal.
    The commish is starting to plain worry me.>>

    Huh?  STARTING to worry you?

    To an arrogant cop, everything looks like a crime.
    He’d be the sort of cop who’d struggle to comprehend a problem that is not able to be solved by arresting it, or writing it a ticket.


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  75. Warwick says:

    Calli, in that article he says he was not following health advice when he decided to go “hard” with fines, just his own view. Obviously I would much prefer police enforcement of these public health orders to be based entirely on public health advice, not the feels of the commish!! Also he reckons on his own analysis the daily case count would be 10000 now if not for him!!

    Seriously, it just astounds me. Now the police can do their own pandemic modelling and expect to be taken seriously? Good grief.

     


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  76. cohenite says:

    The reason I make sense on other topics is because I make sense on everything. Including this issue.

    Right, that confirms it, you’re Dr (sic) Zach Bush.


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  77. Steve trickler says:

    It’ll be fun having a discussion with my GP if the need arises. Memory is pretty good; I’ll probably write a whole lot down on paper as well just to be sure. . Most here should have enough information in their heads to overwhelm them.

    Anyway…

    *********

    Stew Peters Show:

    AMA Propaganda Handbook EXPOSED! Doctors Brainwashing “Pandemic” and “Vaccine” Language


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  78. H B Bear says:

    Chairman Dan loses the War on Covid.

    Back the bugs.  Every time.


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  79. srr says:

    **Mr Inbetween**, not only is it second only to Deadwood because there’s a lot more of Deadwood, the soundtrack also stands up as a desert island/CD stuck in your car and your happy to leave it there, soundtrack –

    https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3Q3rDxHkCEcxynGW2ma7I1


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  80. Steve trickler says:

    Avi:

    Victoria Police officers implicate themselves when they believe the camera stopped rolling.

    HIDDEN CAMERA: Covid-cops BUSTED conspiring to lay ‘trumped-up’ charges


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  81. TailgunneR says:

    If my swastika is yellow and seen to my jacket in the correct location is it still banned in Oblast 24??

    Asking for a friend.


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  82. srr says:

    btw, nothing more time wasting & annoying than those who cut & paste links to Govt Propaganda and hide the guts of it under misleading hotlinks.

    But you won’t hear that from those who do it or their sycophants. They’re too busy trashing everyone who dares have a fun conversation with those the Blog Stasi are trying to unperson, again.

    Cello-F’ing-Phane; not only can you see straight through them, they can’t come clean cos they know they’ll dissolve to a sticky mush. Oh, and they’re not even cunning liars but bald faced liars because they believe all the silent people are too stupid to see their lies.

    Anyway, back to enjoying Aussie Genius now that the noise has stopped.


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  83. twostix says:

    Not sure how state governments expect to be able to force normal people to stay in their homes and ‘let’ vaccinated people out.

    How is that not literally being placed under house arrest for not being vaccinated, and why does it not requires a court appearance and judgement to enforce?


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  84. TailgunneR says:

    Permanent persecuted minority status in my country?

    Fkn bring it, pricks!

    You’ve no idea what you’ve unleashed.

    But you’ll surely reap the whirlwind!

    No mercy for Traitors/Collaborators


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  85. TailgunneR says:

    Embrace the Revolution, mates.

    Times up.

    Fight, you gay bastards, FIGHT!!!!!!

    😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈


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  86. TailgunneR says:

    Follow no “orders”

    Pay no fines

    Take no killshot

    Lose your job

    Retain your pride

    When you got nothing to lose, make a Black Flag and spit on your hands.

    Australia is dead.

    Let’s Make Straya Great Again!

     

     

     


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  87. TailgunneR says:

    We ARE the resistance.

    And we’re Legion.

    And we’re coming…

    No Traitor is safe.


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  88. twostix says:

    The government can only tell non-vaccinated people that they are under house arrest for as long as the emergency powers exist.

    Which puts them into an interesting situation with all their promises of ‘freedom’ once they reach 80 gajillion percent.  I.e once they reach 80% they’ll still necessarily have to maintain the ‘state of emergency’ and those powers to give them the stick and cover to punish normal people (‘reward’ vaccinated people).  But further to that, they’ll also have to periodically put vaccinated people under house arrest so that they can’t be accused of individually targeting and imprisoning unvaccinated people without trial for political reasons (to reward vaccinated people, mandating a medical procedure, etc).  The can only ward that off by occassionally plunging all people into ‘lockdowns’.

    Interesting.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     


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  89. TailgunneR says:

    https://youtu.be/z0wK6s-6cbo

    This video, plus the epic truck blockades, have won the Truck v Train War.

    Unconditional surrender.

    Come at me, subsidy whores!

    🤣🤣


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  90. mh says:

    When does a fully vaccinated person become not fully vaccinated again?

    Pfizer has stated after 6 months boosters are required, so presumably it’s 6 months from the second shot that the person is no longer fully vaxxed.

    This is how some countries are treating UK visitors who received their second shot back in March 2021.


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