Open Thread – Tuesday 17 August 2021

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  1. TailgunneR says:

    “arguing about superannuation and self funding retirements etc.”

    Lol!

    Life comes at you fast!

    Now we’re Juden wondering if the latest Nazi edict will be the last.

    It’s only a yellow star!?

    #resist

    Or death


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  2. Dot says:

    Seriously though – Hazzard today said “not enough Pfeizer” and Berejiklian & Elliot are saying get jabbed or lose your freedoms when AZ has known allergy/reaction issues.

     

    Time for the Governor to step in and sack these rather special people.


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  3. H B Bear says:

    Blown up?  Like While E. Coyote blown up?  Sounds serious.


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  4. TailgunneR says:

    “Conservatives make the same mistake.”

    “Conservatives” are the enemy of the revolution.

    No mercy for Traitors


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  5. a reader says:

    100% dot. I thought they were evil, now I’m convinced they’re insane as well


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  6. srr says:

    Along with my mothers stories of growing up despite Communists & Nazis trying to kill her family off like they did her friends & neighbours, was a take on that of Joseph & His Coat of Many Colours; poor people, poor country, little to feed them even outside the long snowed in winters, it was the tradition to take the old men out into the forest & leave them with a coat (made up of what scraps they could put together), to go to sleep in …

    … then one day the old man stopped his son & bid him to wait, as the old man tore the coat in half and offered his son one half, “Keep this for when it’s your turn and you may be warm enough to live” … and the son wrapped his father up in the scraps & his own coat & brought him back home, after which, those people never again sent their old people out to die.

    Now lets jump to today, when food & all needs for all people are plentiful (if we care not to rob the producers & distributers), and yet we still have people such as (sadly, the list is too long), those who ARGUE FOR The RIGHT of Inhuman Bodies such as The NHS & MEDICARE, to deny people the medical treatment they choose, condemning them to those Inhuman Bodies DEATH PANELS.


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  7. TailgunneR says:

    Australia is ded.

    Time to burn it down and create something better.

    Prove me wrong.


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  8. kaysee says:

    Steve trickler says:

    August 29, 2021 at 9:50 pm

    What is Russia ashamed of? | Perm 36 GULAG prison camp

    Had I watched this a few years ago, I would have thought it was something that could only happen in countries like Russia. Now, the word “Gulag” isn’t from the history of a land far away. It is here and now.

    Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
    George Santayana


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  9. Time for the Governor to step in and sack these rather special people.

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    Dot, I can’t understand why none of the governors have done anything about this gross overreach of governments throughout Australia, especially in Victoria and NSW.  If not now, when do they act?  What overreach is too much?

    I’ve always been against a Bill of Rights because of the risk of allowing certain belief systems and cultural practices rights that are antithetical to western democracies.  But, after this, I can not see any other way to protect and exert our rights than a Bill of Rights.

    But, having said that, doesn’t Victoria have a Bill of Rights or similar legislation without any noticeable protection of rights in the state?


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  10. H B Bear says:

    Sneakers laughing all the way to the bank.  My best chance to go to the Grand Final is not being in Melbourne (and having to swim in Port Phillip Bay).  Probably still won’t bother.


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  11. Dover’s site has been blown up?

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    What?


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  12. mh says:

    Hemsworth film shut down for Covid case

    A star-studded production featuring Russell Crowe and Liam Hemsworth has been shut down after a crew member tested positive.
    ***
    lol


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  13. incoherent rambler says:

    Cry dot.


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  14. Dot says:

    Actually my that’s a good thing. They might become raging anti lockdown spruikers.


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  15. Axl Rosé says:

    Dover’s site has been blown up?

    Yep.

     

    “conservatives”.


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  16. Steve trickler says:

    On the ground in Milan. Let’s see what the cops do.

    Josh Sigurdson reports on the ground at the massive protests in Milan as
    around 50,000 people protest in the streets against the incredibly
    illegal and tyrannical vaccine mandates.
    The Green Pass has been in place for over a month now and Italians are not having it.
    We reported on the ground from the protests and marches kicked off around the famous Piazza Duomo in Milan.

    While ⁣one protest was organized, another march was planned at the same time against the Green Pass. As the march passed by, we followed. What resulted was amazing. Thousands filled the streets for nearly a kilometer as square after square was occupied by the protesters demanding an end to the tyranny and technocracy.In this video, we follow the protest, the confrontations with both police and political
    opponents including politicians and we talk to one of the main
    organizers, Danilo Amici, a composer who works in London, Hollywood and
    of course Italy who has had enough of the criminality he sees taking
    over Italy and selling it off to the highest globalist bidder.

    EXCLUSIVE: MASSIVE Protests In Italy! – The REVOLUTION Begins NOW! – NO Vaccine Passports!


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  17. kaysee says:

    Dot says:

    August 30, 2021 at 3:14 pm

    From Talib

    https://medium.com/incerto/iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle-f131c101ba39

    《 “IQ” is a stale test meant to measure mental capacity but in fact mostly measures extreme unintelligence

    It is a useful descriptor for those with low intelligence – not for those who do have  genuine learning disabilities, but those whose intellect has perished due to lack of use. We encounter many of these everyday. See them on the telly, too.

    They can be described as having single or double-digit IQs.


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  18. Figures says:

    I have some ideas Bar Beach Swimmer.

     

    The greatest danger to humanity is unchecked virtue signalling. The way to combat this is to give the leader of a country the right (but not obligation) to apply a “you first times ten” ruling on any individual who pipes up and calls for other people’s freedoms to be curtailed.

     

    For example, anybody calling for forced vaccines is immediately given 10 of the very same vaccines they want to force (if they want to force ten vaccines then they are given a hundred).

     

    If a journalist starts promoting lockdowns then they are given an ankle monitor and told to stay in their houses for ten months for every one month they themselves called for.

     

    Leftists are always saying “free speech comes with consequences” well in this case it actually would. The exact consequences that you supposedly want for everybody will automatically apply to you. You can still argue for them, and other people can agree with you (assuming they’re happy to go through the same treatment) but you have to show that you’re willing to put up with it yourself.

     

    Doing this will mean that all left wing chatter will disappear. For good. The Prime Minister might not invoke the ruling but no leftist is going to risk it because none of them believe the drivel they promote. And if they do, well they’re locked away in their homes where they won’t bother the rest of us.


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  19. Runnybum says:

    Should go to conservative treehouse site, scroll down.

    A gold star mum (Shana Chappel) whose son was one of the service members killed in the Kabul suicide bomb.

    Boy does she give biden a serve to his face.


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  20. Top Ender says:

    Dover’s site is back.

    His brother Ben Dover is backing away from tech management too.


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  21. TailgunneR says:

    Nice Gravatar, Axl.

    Respect

    👍👍👊👊


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  22. TailgunneR says:

    “I can’t understand why none of the governors have done anything”

     

    BBS, god bless you, but in the words of ROTUS, “C’mon man!”

     


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  23. TailgunneR says:

    I bet Max Rockatansky’s new movie won’t be shutdown by a “case of the Coof”!

    🤣🤣🤣


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  24. Axl Rosé says:

    Ben Dover still making movies?


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  25. TailgunneR says:

    https://rumble.com/vlw998-truck-carrying-moderna-jabs-crashes-dept-of-defense-in-hazmat-show-up.html

    Salty takes a look at an interesting truck accident.

    Any truck-talking dudes know why the DoD would take over the accident scene?

    And shutdown the airspace around it?

    Just a conspiracy theory??

    🤔🤔🤣🤣


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  26. TailgunneR says:

    Hey, TopEnder, I loved your Taliban Morning Show post the other day.

    Great stuff 🤣🤣


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  27. caveman says:

    Do they ever talk about his other brother Don Over.


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  28. Muddy says:

    kaysee.

    Yes, to quartre and OMG to cinq.

     

     


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  29. egg_ says:

    “There is a blog for you.  Its called the Needle-Cat.  Dover runs it.”

    The First Tuesday Book Club for Girl Scouts?


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  30. Indolent Indolent says:

    Encouraging.  Not everyone is stupid –

    Australian imports of ivermectin increase tenfold, prompting warning from TGA | Coronavirus | The Guardian

    One thing has been bothering me.  If they really want a world dictatorship, and it’s obvious that they do, when will they abolish elections?  Will there even be one next year?  Or is this a silly question.   Will we be having 98% love for the chosen one a la Stalin?


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  31. candy says:

    cohenite says:

    You did see who she appointed as her chief of staff: this commie:

    I reckon like Julia Gillard who was also sort of “placed” as the leader  Gladys B. gets

    very taken with a bloke and takes on his ideas and philosophies and is not really able to  take the lead and make decisions.

    Just not cut out for the job really. Means well but not really understanding implications.

    Like Julia Gillard letting all those asylum boats arrive.  She was like a stunned mullet waiting for someone to advise her.


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  32. TailgunneR says:

    ” Rich, low-debt, airbrushed, smiling, and armed to the teeth.”

    Damn straight, Jabba.

    #Straya

    And Antarctica is Ours.

    Everyone else can GTFO.

     


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  33. TailgunneR says:

    https://youtu.be/KoUxeruALpc

    Say hello to the newly-minted Strayans Antarctic Army.

    Come at us, bro!


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  34. Very nice lady, but simply out of her depth. Not ill meaning, just does not understand fully the implications of the policies she announces.

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    Candy, you’re being too nice.  Those who attain positions of power understand only too well how politics works and Gladys is no different.  Currently and without compunction, Gladys is screwing over the residents of NSW.  It is more than clear that she doesn’t care about the livelihoods of people or the sacred responsibility of parents to look after their children by putting a roof over their heads and food on the table.  More than unbelievable is that, as a Liberal(?), she refuses to accept that people have a right to make their own choices in their own way.  The fact that she does not understand this shows her time is up and she must go.


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  35. Axl Rosé says:

    A nation of debt slaves is a compliant one.


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  36. Boambee John says:

    katsee

     

    Thanks for the links, always look forward to them.


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  37. TailgunneR says:

    Amerika is finished too.

    The New World Order ain’t going to look like Klaus and his crew think.

    Suck shit, satanists!

    #EnjoyNationalism


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  38. TailgunneR says:

    Service Guarantees Citizenship

    #Straya


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  39. Indolent Indolent says:

    Currently and without compunction, Gladys is screwing over the residents of NSW.  It is more than clear that she doesn’t care about the livelihoods of people or the sacred responsibility of parents to look after their children by putting a roof over their heads and food on the table.  More than unbelievable is that, as a Liberal(?), she refuses to accept that people have a right to make their own choices in their own way.  The fact that she does not understand this shows her time is up and she must go.

    *****************

    Exactly so.


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  40. cohenite says:

    Can someone translate bird’s last post; I mean I don’t want to encourage him but even by his standards that is a surreal effort.


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  41. “BBS, god bless you”

    Right back atcha, TG!

     


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  42. Steve trickler says:

    Looked up Craig Kelly on Sussietube and all you get are MSM links. Useless.

    CRAIG KELLY NAILS IT! INTRODUCTION OF BILL TO PREVENT VACCINE MANDATES AND PASSPORTS


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  43. TailgunneR says:

    Tell me you wouldn’t push the button to launch a Stalin Organ upon our fake “capital” full of Traitors?

    It’s gonna be EPIC.

     


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  44. cohenite,

    that reminds of the scene in the Big Bang Theory when Sheldon stays up all night and becomes manic and incoherent.


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  45. TailgunneR says:

    Every kid in Straya knows how to strip our home grown assault rifle from the age of 5.

    A million rifles behind every gumtree, mate!

    Come at me.

    Think BIG.

    We’re gonna be rich as astronauts.

    What’s under Antarctica?

    Whatever it is, it’s OURS


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  46. TailgunneR says:

    Do t worry, Jabba, we’ll own all the fishies south of East Timor too.

    And the whales.

    Plus the rare earths& alien tech we discover on our new protectorate.

    Foreign forces have 30 days to vacate.

    Or else


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  47. egg_ says:

    Watching Teh Dumb

    Julia Baird doesn’t look so hot as she used to.

    Lockdown blues?


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  48. TailgunneR says:

    “They have just past a law that allows the government to review our online communication, and edit it. ”

    Hehe, excellent news.

    The revolution gets closer.

    More 1984 please, dickheads.

    More recruits, more resistance.

    #accelerate


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  49. Delta A says:

    Mark A, thanks for your lame pics.

    Thanks also to Kaysee for her funnies.

    These are the only reason I come to this site. Wish both of you would post on Dover’s Cat.

    PS: Miss Bear too.

     


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  50. egg_ says:

    It must be tough on these entitled wymminses not having a woman in once a week?

     


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  51. TailgunneR says:

    Current forces, non-nuke conflict.

    Could Bidan’s troops take the Kremlin?

    Awww sheeeit


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  52. kaysee says:

    struth says:

    August 30, 2021 at 6:00 pm

    The Australia project…a must watch, this guy is good and we need to get behind this.

    For the readers and commenters of this blog who understand the crisis facing this country (and world) and are concerned, this video offers a plan of action. If you haven’t watched it, it is worth the time.

    The speaker is Former Queensland police officer of 18 years, Kent Brown. He mentions that history and statistics tell us that just one percent of a nation will stand up and unite to fight for a cause. But after this one percent stands up, ten percent will join.

    I have been thinking that the main cause we have to fight for is Freedom. That is the basis of our rights. Now, this group is not talking about Freedom. Their focus is Corruption. Removing corruption from all areas such as: government, agencies, law enforcement, medical-related businesses and so on.

    That makes sense to me. If the various organisations and institutions are free from corruption, the country will return to its core values and people will not need to fight for their basic rights.

    If you are concerned with what is happening in the country and you want to do your part, here is the opportunity to do something. I did not know anything about this group till I watched this video posted by struth. Yet, from what I have heard in this video, I see the plan as action that can work to turn this country around.

    This is The Australia Project (TAP).

    Most of the involvement will be in writing letters and emails. The difference is that what we have been doing in the past is as individuals. Here, it is going to be as a group. TAP will be doing the hard work and providing the templates.

    How many here will choose to be that one percent that is prepared to stand up and fight?

    How many here will decide to be the ten percent that will join in after the one percent?

    How many here will sit back and ……… well ………. sit back?

    We can’t wait for the elections and think we can send a message then. There are too many already brainwashed by the Fake Stream Media. If one percent of the voters vote for a serious change, it wouldn’t really have a great impact considering the electoral system. It will be same old, same old.


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  53. egg_ says:

    Does Grigs sync his fitbits between his socks?

     


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  54. TailgunneR says:

    “Kill the bigshots and its a short war.”

    Snipers/Kill Squads only get you so far.

    Shock&Awe is needed too.

    For the normies.


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  55. How is it that someone who would be considered reasonably intelligent can not see that the personal freedom to decide one thing over another – to be vaccinated or not – is just as academic research and inquiry freed from censure and control?

    Credlin has just had on a professor of history from Cambridge University who has started a group to reclaim history in order to fight back against woke ideas that manipulate and/or refute the historical record.  She’s all for that freedom but on vaccine personal choice she continues to encourage her viewers to get jabbed.


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  56. kaysee says:

    The Australia Project

    《The owners of this domain are currently in process to officially launch this website. But due to potential demand have made some items available with limited functionality. The site is expected to be officially launched before September 1st. Check back soon for when things are fully live…

    Or join us on Telegram and be a part of the conversation at TheAustraliaProject channel》

    The website is under construction. It hasn’t yet been officially launched but some downloadable letters are already available there. All the information needed to act will be provided when the site is up and running.

    I will be checking it and will post reminders.


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  57. Indolent Indolent says:

    That speech by Craig Kelly was truly uplifting.   Everything he said should go without saying.   I can’t imagine on what basis they can argue against it, but I’m sure they will.


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  58. egg_ says:

    Protests against COVID lockdowns and vaccination were held across New South Wales today as the state recorded 1164 new cases 10 weeks into lockdown. Pressure is mounting on our health staff as Gladys Berijiklian announces that hospitalisations will climb.


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  59. TailgunneR says:

    one percent of a nation will stand up and unite to fight for a cause”

    The IRA boys approve this message.

    But it’s much less than 1%.

    They had 3-500 active operators? Plus some popular support. Maybe 1% total?

    Small number of committed badasses can cause all sorts of mayhem 😏😎


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  60. Shy Ted says:

    She does need removing. They all do. but it’s the manner of the removal that counts and if you think that means legal proceedings you need to think again. We don’t need any more laws. We need to rapidly repeal all the laws that have got us to where we are. She/they can only be removed by local people in a manner that makes the next pollie/journo/copper think, “shit, I’m next”. And “not guilty, your honour”. The cops have chosen sides. They didn’t choose ours.


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  61. TailgunneR says:

    “you think that means legal proceedings you need to think again”

    Hehe, not so ShyTed.

    I’m liking it.

    Outlaws have our own rules.

    Price must be paid by the Traitors.

    It’s gonna get messy.


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  62. Shy Ted says:

    And from what I read none of the alternative parties are saying anything other than “we must learn to live with the virus”. Considering it’s lie on lie on lie you’d think just one would be brave enough to say “it doesn’t exist and the perpetrators of the lie will be deemed to have committed…” (lawyers, what’s the worst charge?) “and we wil be seeking the death penalty”. Tell me that’s not going to be a winning policy.


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  63. Dot says:

    I think black propaganda by the barrel full is the only legal way to reach these fools a lesson.


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  64. kaysee says:

    CRAIG KELLY NAILS IT! INTRODUCTION OF BILL TO PREVENT VACCINE MANDATES AND PASSPORTS

    That was an excellent speech by Craig Kelly. He included all the relevant points. It needs to be sent to anyone who still does not understand that the vaccines are not some cure for the virus.

    Now, we need to wait and see what the coward politicians do. He calls for a debate and vote. As he says:

    Let history record where every member of this Parliament sits on this issue.


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  65. incoherent rambler says:

    Down came the troopers, 1 2 3

    Wez that jab record you’ve got in your smartphone …


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  66. kaysee says:

    This Canadian Man Breaks It All Down ~

    The World Is A Stage


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  67. kaysee says:

    Encouraging.  Not everyone is stupid –

    Australian imports of ivermectin increase tenfold, prompting warning from TGA | Coronavirus | The Guardian

    They will not talk about how the proper use of invermectin is life-saving.  They make sure they include information such as:

    《Amid growing reports in the United States in recent weeks of people calling poison information hotlines over self-medicating with ivermectin as a treatment for Covid-19, a spokesperson for the TGA told Guardian Australia there had been a massive increase in people bringing the drug into Australia.》

     


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  68. incoherent rambler says:

    dot Johnson is right!


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  69. incoherent rambler says:

    Let history record where every member of this Parliament sits on this issue.Let history record where every member of this Parliament sits on this issue.

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    It will also simplify things at the trials.


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  70. Robert Mc says:

    Phew. Overpowering rancidness of old woman again lingering here since 6.40 pm. Barely covered by the smell of Chanel No 5.


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  71. Armadillo says:

    This encapsulates everything Cats have been saying for years, in one short hour.

    https://rumble.com/vlvxg8-ep.-2564b-they-are-being-forced-into-the-light-it-had-to-be-this-way-in-the.html


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  72. TailgunneR says:

    https://youtu.be/EOnSh3QlpbQ

    WE are the resistance.

    They’ll write songs about us after.

    Hehe

    That’s fkn badass.

    We fight on.


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  73. TailgunneR says:

    I studied Renaissance history in Year 12.

    I was spewing it wasn’t WW2.

    But I see you now, Doge!!


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  74. kaysee says:

    It will also simplify things at the trials.

    Yes. It was a brilliant line.

    Let’s see the pollies do the wriggle, the wriggle, the wriggle.


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  75. cohenite says:

    This is bird’s nugget for the evening:

    “Kill the bigshots and its a short war. Because you’ll only get half of them for starters.  And the other half with find Jesus, and be sending your presents for the next 100 years.”

    Disregard the rest.


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  76. cohenite says:

    This is right:

    Rylee McCollum was one of the 13 U.S. service members who died after an ISIS-K suicide bomber detonated outside the Kabul airport last week. The young Marine was in Afghanistan on his first deployment shortly after getting married in February. His wife, Jiennah Crayton, is expecting the couple’s first child at the end of September.

    “My son was a genius child, an IQ 156. He could have done anything you wanted to do in the military and he chose to be a Marine sniper. … He chose this course, but I never thought in a million years he would die for nothing, for nothing because a feckless, dementia-ridden piece of crap decided he wanted a photo op on Sept. 11. That’s what kills me,” McCollum said. “I wanted my son to represent our country, to fight for my country, but I never thought that a feckless piece of crap would send him to his death and smirk on television while he’s talking about people dying with his nasty smirk.”

    McCollum not only called for Biden’s removal but said this situation “never would have happened under Trump.”


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  77. Axl Rosé says:

    Into the DOGE, ‘gunner?


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  78. TailgunneR says:

    “It will also simplify things at the trials.”

    Hehe.

    WE are the 001%

    The resistance

    I don’t want your money, or your love. Just your fkn loyalty to the cause.

    We fight, because no one else will.

    That’s how we roll.

    No surrender


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  79. TailgunneR says:

    Not DogeCoin, Axl.

    FFS

    🤣

     


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  80. kaysee says:

    Indolent,

    Last week, you posted links to responses in Gab, from Woolies and Coles, that check-in via QR codes is voluntary and customers must not be refused entry. I wonder if they are still holding this position.

    Police to increase Covid checks in Coles, Woolworths: ‘No excuses’

     


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  81. TailgunneR says:

    But interesting call…

    🤔🤔

    We’ve always been sus on Elon!

    Wow


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  82. TailgunneR says:

    “Police to increase Covid checks in Coles, Woolworths: ‘No excuses’”

    Sounds like Australia to me.

    Burn it all down.

    Protect your assets as best you can.

     

     

     


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  83. incoherent rambler says:

    Mr Fuller urged anyone who has information regarding individuals or businesses not complying with local government advice to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or by going to their website.

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    Crime stoppers?


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  84. mh says:

    “Police to increase Covid checks in Coles, Woolworths: ‘No excuses’”
    ***
    Laugh and think, this is Australia. 🎵

     


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  85. kaysee says:

    Canada has a new anti-Vaccine hero…

    《 The liberals wants to put masks on my son. You’re wearing a mask and he’s wearing a mask right now, I think it’s idiotic, I think you two look idiots. The masks don’t work, the vaccines don’t work. It’s already been proven.》


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  86. That was an excellent speech by Craig Kelly. He included all the relevant points. It needs to be sent to anyone who still does not understand that the vaccines are not some cure for the virus.

    Now, we need to wait and see what the coward politicians do. He calls for a debate and vote. As he says:

    Let history record where every member of this Parliament sits on this issue.

    _______________________________________________________

    +lots


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  87. Steve trickler says:

    Worth posting again from a couple of years back. H/T Egg for reminding me of Bonneville Speed Week. 6:21 – run begins at 1:17. I thought this years event was cancelled.

    Strap yourself in. Absolutely incredible ride.

    Jinx Vesco:

    “On October 2, 2018, Team Vesco’s Turbinator II with Dave Spangler driving became the first wheel drive car to exceed the 500 mph barrier. Owner, designer and builder, Rick Vesco and his late brother Don began to pursue this goal 17 years ago. Tragically Don died of cancer in 2002 and never saw his dream fulfilled. In 2013 Rick began to upgrade the car with a new turbine engine, new drive train, new traction control, new brakes and new body. It was sweet success when on the first (and only) day of the World Finals event on the famous Bonneville Salt Flats, Dave Spangler powered the car through to a spectacular 503 mph run!

    First 500 mph Run


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  88. kaysee says:

    BBS, are you still having problems posting comments with links?

    If yes, you could list them as feedback in the “Domesticated Animals” post on the main page.


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  89. mh says:

    ‘Two Victorian women diagnosed with Covid-19 have died in their homes, marking the state’s first virus deaths in almost nine months.

    The Department of Health is investigating the deaths of a Hume woman in her 60s and a 49-year-old woman from Northcote.

    It is not clear whether the women had any underlying health conditions, or if they had been vaccinated.

    The deaths, the first in Victoria since November 30 last year and which take the state’s Covid toll to 822, prompted warnings that coronavirus symptoms can “rapidly worsen”.’

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    My first question is were they not receiving ANY treatments such as Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine and zinc? Just nothing?

     


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  90. FlyingPigs says:

    https://freedomaustralia.freeforums.net/thread/1380/over-country?page=1&scrollTo=3154

    In some circles there used to be a ‘formula’ for taking over a country which was mainly based on how actual communist insurrectionists were observed operating in European, South American and African countries.

    Firstly, you foment a ‘disaster’ or catastrophe that terrifies and concerns the local populace;

    Secondly, you capture and control the means of communication both internal and external of your target country;

    Thirdly, you send out ‘peace keepers’ to put down and control any dissenters to your aims, by any means whatsoever;

    Fourthly, you so disrupt the local economy that the ‘citizens’ acquiesce to you for aid; and

    Fifthly, you appeal to the UN international community for help to fix your countries problems.

    On a scale of 1 to 5 above, where is Australia?


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