Open Thread – Tuesday 17 August 2021

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  1. H B Bear says:

    More discursive?  That doesn’t sound good.


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  2. Indolent Indolent says:

    This article is from America but I think it applies equally here.  I’ve been wondering for a while why there have been no attempt to challenge the legality of the sudden accretion of power into the hands of an unaccountable few, otherwise known as dictatorship.

    Why So Many Americans Reject Legal Due Process in the Age of Covid | Mises Wire


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  3. Timothy Neilson @ 11:03pm

    Thanks BBS. My knowledge of biology is negligible, but assuming that the article describes his views accurately one would think that a Nobel Prizewinner for medicine giving such a warning would be at least listened to. But one thing I noticed when I did the search for that article was that none of the search results showed any MSM body even mentioning it.

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    Tim, it was strange how I couldn’t link that article here; my comment kept disappearing, including when I cut and pasted the entire thing.

    I just had a look at Luc Montagnier’s wiki page, the below quote is from there;

    “During the Covid-19 Pandemic Montagnier was a promoter of the conspiracy theory that Sars-Cov-2 the causative virus, was deliberately created in, and thereafter escaped a laboratory. Such a claim has been refuted by other virologists. He has been criticised by other academics for using his Nobel prize status to “spread dangerous health messages outside his field of knowledge””

    Like you, I know nothing academically about this stuff but from that excerpt someone didn’t like him saying that the virus is man-made.  The fact it’s still on wiki, when most everyone else now knows that it came out of the Wuhan Lab somehow is interesting.
    p.s and now, I couldn’t put this up as well; I’ve had to take out the links to wiki


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  4. ps.  I tried to post that comment 3 times – finally, I had to take out the links to the wiki page.


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  5. cohenite says:

    Steve trickler says:
    August 30, 2021 at 11:34 pm

    Mark Dice on the streets asking about the recall vote in California.

    IT MIGHT GO DOWN!

    Idiots who vote demorats are either airheads or arrogant fucktards.


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  6. Black Ball says:

    There was supposed to be some sort of silent protests at council chambers all around the country today from 9am onwards. Anyone get there? I saw a video at Waverley (Sydney?) where a nice turnout occurred. Plenty of po po but nothing untoward at this stage


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  7. H B Bear says:

    Posting on Yob Cat feels a bit like putting an ad for your Betamax in The Age and waiting for the phone to ring.  Now I know how those Japanese machine gunners stuck in the jungle at the end of WWII must have felt.  At least I have some nano wrigglers for company.


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  8. Figures says:

    Peter Gutwein wants us to respect his “medical privacy” as he recovers from an illness that is, no doubt, completely unrelated to the clot shot. Meanwhile, everybody is supposed to know the vaccine status of everybody else.


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  9. Ruprecht Ruprecht says:

    You’d think Wong would have more to worry about with the actual President rather than the old one


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  10. Ruprecht Ruprecht says:

    It’s ok Bear.
    Mind you, the Copy Cat feels like you’ve stumbled on to a private chat group of five posters.


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  11. Top Ender says:

    To land of the free, we’re a weirdly authoritarian mob

    ADAM CREIGHTON

    “What the hell is wrong with your country?” I’m asked almost every day in the US of late. At dinner on Saturday night in New York three Democrat friends demanded I explain why police were shooting rubber bullets and pepper spray to enforce public health.
    At my hotel a doorman, Danny, came up to me. “Man, I heard your accent yesterday and I just wanted to say, holy shit, the stuff I’m seeing in Australia I can’t believe,” he said, asking if police helicopters really had hovered over suburbs, barking masking orders over loudspeakers.
    Australians are rapidly losing their reputation as tough, irreverent larrikins. The nation has gone viral for hunting down “Covid fugitives” (people with a positive test), building remote quarantine facilities, shooting dogs, denying babies treatment in the closest hospitals and preventing families from seeing dying loved ones.
    Forget Mick Dundee and Steve Irwin; Kerry Chant and Daniel Andrews are the new, hectoring faces of modern, safety-obsessed Australia. “That’s not a mask, this is a mask,” Americans would expect to hear in 2021. We’re seen as weak, naive and hopelessly parochial, an image reinforced by Western Australia’s zero-Covid policy to divorce itself from the rest of the country.
    Millions of people in the US have watched, stupefied, the normalisation of behaviour and attitudes that two years ago would have been seen as the hallmark of a cruel, authoritarian society.
    Columnist Josh Barro, son of Harvard economist Robert Barro, called Australia dystopian.
    “I’m surprised there isn’t more debate about whether what they’re doing is OK as opposed to a human rights infringement,” statistician Nate Silver replied. Indeed, our $25m a year Human Rights Commission has been missing in action on fundamental liberties for 17 months, perhaps engrossed in a forthcoming trans rights discussion paper.
    “I’m not sure why Australia is an example of any sort of success that the US would want to emulate,” Silver told his 3.5 million Twitter followers.
    Australia has become the butt of jokes on late-night TV, Andrews’ prohibition of drinking alcohol without a mask being a favourite. “There’s some crazy shit going on right now where the army is trying to keep people inside in Australia,” US comedian Joe Rogan, with 7.4 million Twitter followers, said this month.
    The idea Australians and Americans are cultural brothers in arms has been shattered. Australians copied their old colonial masters on Covid, but more zealously. Americans, true to the legacy of the Declaration of Independence, have eschewed, even in liberal California, the police heavy-handedness that became the norm in Britain and Australia. State borders never shut.
    “It’s because they took your guns away, isn’t it?” Danny said. “They would never get away with that shit here.” America’s gun problem makes it difficult to boss people around excessively.
    Two weeks ago the US Department of Homeland Security issued a terror threat warning, not only because of the approaching September 11 anniversary but also because of “grievances over public health safety measures and perceived government restrictions”. “Extremists may seek to exploit … re-establishment of public health restrictions across the United States as a rationale to conduct attacks,” it said.
    Every US state is flashing red on the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention’s Covid map, reflecting high transmission, defined as more than 100 cases per 100,000 people in the past seven days – a higher level than in NSW.
    The health advice is no longer gospel. At least 40 US states have ignored the CDC’s demand for indoor mask mandates, supposedly necessary for such high levels of transmission. No state governor, not even House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, queen of liberal piety, would dare publicly link curtailing basic freedoms to compliance with arbitrary health advice.
    Australians living in the US are shocked, too, regularly filling my inbox with tales of despair.
    “My wife and I and eightmonth-old son have been here for 10-plus years and we’re reconsidering our pre-pandemic plan to move back due to concerns about Covid handling, the prospect of continued lockdowns and the overall desirability of Australia,” wrote Josh and his wife, directors at big four accounting firms in Los Angeles, understandably too fearful to reveal their full names.
    “The Covid mania in Australia this year is unbelievable, particularly when viewed from abroad,” said Alex, an Australian businessman in Chicago. “No country ever prospered by being so cynical and risk averse. Hopefully sanity prevails one day so we can all see our families again.”
    I struggled to explain to Danny why Australia’s response was so extreme: being a remote island fuelled a perception the virus could be eliminated, lockdowns did seem to work at first, individuals have few if any constitutional rights and Australia began as a subsidised government project, entrenching a widespread faith in bureaucracy. And in smaller nations Covid stories crowd out other news more easily, ensuring a steady diet of 24/7 fear porn.
    In Iowa recently I searched in vain on local TV for a daily chief health officer update on Covid-19, let alone an intricate parsing of the cases into linked, in the community and overseas.
    None of these explanations is adequate, though. Switzerland’s Covid restrictions paled in comparison with Australia’s, Japan never locked down and Alberta, Canada, with about the same population as Victoria, practically abolished all restrictions on July 1.
    I walked off to a cafe after chatting with Danny, asking the manager why he hadn’t checked my vaccination status – a legal requirement in New York since August 16. “I asked the previous customer and he yelled and walked out so I couldn’t be stuffed asking you,” he said. In Australia everyone has to check in, I explained. He just laughed at me.


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  12. Farmer Gez says:

    The word on the Council protests was spread last week.

    Might be an issue in the city but rural councils aren’t doing anything much to push lockdowns.

    I was talking to a couple of council office staff in a cafe the other day and they were both sick of the lockdown and couldn’t see any need for it.

    You’d look a dill protesting in front of a council office full of people who agree with you.

     


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  13. H B Bear says:

    Being an Australian in the US faded quicker than Paul Hogan’s facelift.


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  14. srr says:

    Indolent says:
    August 31, 2021 at 9:37 am

    This article is from America but I think it applies equally here.  I’ve been wondering for a while why there have been no attempt to challenge the legality of the sudden accretion of power into the hands of an unaccountable few, otherwise known as dictatorship.

    Why So Many Americans Reject Legal Due Process in the Age of Covid | Mises Wire

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    Very much related –

    Thanks for this, it’s always good to have another mob to name when online propagandists try to mock away the fact of Govt Propaganda Units –

    UK Govt Behavioural Insights Team – The Behavioural Insights Team – also known as the Nudge Unit – is now a social purpose company. It is partly owned by the Cabinet Office, employees and Nesta.

    The Nudge Unit was established in the Cabinet Office in 2010 by David Cameron’s government to apply behavioural science to public policy. Now owned partly by the Cabinet Office, by Nesta and by employees, it has operations across the world.
    From nilk’s cat –

    Perfidious Albino — Today at 07:49
    That NHS propaganda is all driven by the UK Govt Behavioural Insights Team, they have offices globally now including in Sydney and Wellington and connections with the Obama people. No doubt they have received many fat contracts from Australian Govts in the last couple of years. Just finished reading ‘A State of Fear’ by Laura Dodsworth which explores this approach behind the scenes in the UK to early 2021. Leveraging fear to obtain outcomes. (Great read BTW)


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  15. jo says:

    completely unrelated to the clot shot. Guitwen still a clot.


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  16. srr says:

    nilk — Today at 10:22

    We have our own nudge units.

    https://www.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-07/Applying-Behavioural-Inisghts-in-Victoria-An-Update.pdf

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    Yes. That’s why it gets me that anyone trusts those who try to mock it away with, “Conspiracy Nut!”.

    The UK mobs work on making their NHS some sort of Holy Religion that MUST be Believed In & Worshipped, from the Olympics to Pot Banging During Lockdown “TO SAVE The NHS”, has always been particularly horrific to me, especially with how many people came out to SUPPORT their NOT ALLOWING PARENTS TO HAVE THEIR CHILDREN TREATED in other countries, that could save their lives, but using The LAW to give the children DEATH SENTANCES.

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    Bruce of Newcastlesays:
    August 31, 2021 at 10:14 am

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    If the whole country caught a mild cold there would be no need for a lockdown.
    Well, you wouldn’t think so. But…

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    The same people think CO2 is destroying the planet.
    I came across this saying by Voltaire earlier:

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    “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”

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    Yes, again the absurdity of the ‘worship’ of the NHS has caused people around the world to accept the atrocity of DEATH PANELS that make it CRIMINAL for Parents to have their own children treated by those who could & would save their lives.


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  17. cohenite says:

    Biden and the swamp at work:

    “The Opposite of Dunkirk” – Erik Prince: Biden Regime Is Telling Local Governments Not to Cooperate with Private Contractors Rescuing Americans in Afghanistan (VIDEO)

    Revealed: Biden Turned Down Taliban Offer to Allow US to Control Kabul and the Airport

    Secretary of State Blinken Claims US Never Gave Taliban Kill List – Then Admits US Gave Names of American Citizens to Taliban (VIDEO)

    Developing: Military Brass at Kabul Airport Is Refusing to Let American Women and Children Inside Gate

    Conservative Purge Continues: Chase Bank Tells Gen. Michael Flynn They Are Closing His Accounts and Cancelling His Credit Cards; Claim Continuing to Allow the Decorated Veteran Access to His Accounts “Creates Reputational Risk”


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  18. jo says:

    The Electoral Legislation Amendment (Party Registration Integrity) Bill 2021 had its second reading on August 12.                                                                                                                          That cuts out the Lieborels the Liars and the Greenscum. No integrity.


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  19. Chris says:

    Ah, good to drop in and find a circular firing squad being formed up.

    Carry on.


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  20. mh says:

    ‘Protesters in some of Sydney’s worst-hit Covid suburbs gathered in big numbers this morning and chanted ‘freedom’ and ‘my body my choice’ as part of co-ordinated demonstrations.’


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  21. Axl Rosé says:

    Farmer Gez says:
    August 31, 2021 at 10:46 am

    Correct.  No one is pushing or policing any lockdown in the country.  Maybe the odd Karen here and there.

    I did a 100+km round trip to go shopping in Ballarat on Saturday, and judging by the amount of cars on the road, so were plenty of others.

    Lockdowns are for cities: Easier to police. Higher concentration of peer group pressure/herd mentality/snitches.

    Bush out of sight out of mind, and considering it only accounts for 10% of the population, is of negligible value to the psy-op anyway.


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  22. Chris says:

    Love the LTEs and accompanying discussion. I used to write to ‘Editors’ and was pleased to get the occasion ‘First Cuckoo of Spring’ (more like, ‘get a load of this cuckoo?’) published.

    But the fuckwit ratio is so bad in most places you can get published now. Haven’t had one in since BRW folded.  Online comments are a dead loss – not enough rational readers or participants IMO.

     


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  23. Black Ball says:

    That may be so Gez and Axl. But a quick stroll down Main Street is revealing.


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  24. a reader says:

    I was talking with a close friend who is an allied health professional last night. She had been holding out on the vax for as long as possible but ended up having to do it or lose her income. We were talking about the total inversion of what vaccines are supposed to do, i.e. protect the host. The absurdity of this was brought to the surface again by that insufferable Health Hazzard who said this in the performance theatre:

    “Not getting vaccinated is self-entitled and indulgent in the extreme in the middle of a pandemic. Go and get vaccinated and be fair to the rest of the community.”

     

    The bloke is such an arse


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  25. a reader says:

    Fuck me…Gladys has no redeeming features left as a politician. She literally said this today

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    Ms Berejiklian said no adults in the state should be hesitant to get AstraZeneca and that there will be little sympathy from her when the unvaccinated are left behind in the reopening.

    “There is no reason why anybody over a certain age should not have got the vaccine,” she said. “I’ve had the AstraZeneca. I’ve 50 years old. I’ve had the AstraZeneca.

    “Nobody of a certain age should have any hesitancy with the AstraZeneca.

    “And it’s really important to know that when we open up, those that are unvaccinated won’t be allowed to to other things because they will be exposed.

    “That is why at 70% double dose freedoms will extend to people that are fully vaccinated.

    “We cannot afford to have the unvaccinated exposed to venues and we can’t afford to have the unvaccinated susceptible to disease, to get disease.

    “That’s why we’re urging everybody, giving people plenty of notice to say if you want to participate in the freedoms that come with 70%, that come with 80%, please, please get vaccinated.

    “I don’t want people who have chosen to be unvaccinated complain when we get to 70%.”


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  26. Black Ball says:

    2 articles from the Hun. First from corporate world:

    “Virgin Australia chief Jayne Hrdlicka has raised concerns the consequences of extended lockdowns could be more devastating than the covid virus itself as she joined Qantas in mandating vaccinations for workers.

    Having previously called for borders to open even though “some people may die,” Ms Hrdlicka on Monday voiced concerns about the heavy toll of governments response to the pandemic, on young people in particular.

    She said Australia was fortunate to have not had the same massive outbreaks as other countries but the need to vaccinate the population was just as urgent.

    “The consequences of being locked down a pretty far-reaching and hard to calculate”, Ms Hrdlicka said.

    “The impact on kids and their future and mental health, and the consequences for long-term stability, they’re factors that need to be considered that hasn’t been as important or obvious.

    “We need to open up and we need to do that in a way that’s safe and protects the community from the consequences of lockdown as well as the consequences of covid.”

    Virgin Australia has decided to mandate vaccinations for all employees, no matter how far from the “frontline”.”

    So vaccinate or my company will perish she exclaimed with relish. Won’t be parting with my hard earned on this airline.


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  27. Warwick says:

    I note above what Gladys said about the Astra Zeneca vaccine. 4 weeks ago I went to my medical clinic and asked for the AZ shot. Docotr said at 50 you are not going to get it. My strong advice is to not have it, and we will not give it to you here.

    Does she want to go against my doctors advice?

     

     


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  28. Black Ball says:

    Secondly this craptastic effort from 2 non entities.

    ‘Pop duo Client Liaison are backing a campaign encouraging Victoria to get vaccinated against covid 19 to reboot our live music venues and gigs.

    “We can’t do shows until people are vaccinated”, said Client Liaison singer Monte Morgan, with keyboardist and producer Harvey Miller said.

    “I know Australians will do the right thing.”

    The Mighty V campaign is the brainchild of Rock Posters, supported by leading businesses including the Herald Sun.

    “The more we vaccinate, the safer we become… which allows us to get out to enjoy live entertainment and sport,” Marcus Seal, of Rock Posters, said.

    The Mighty V will donate $10k to Support Act, which helps those in the music industry who have lost work, gigs and livelihoods.’

    A better idea for these brain-dead fuckwits might be to make music or theatrical works so palatable to the public that they are willing to spend money on their endeavours. FMD


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  29. struth says:

    I don’t want people who have chosen to be unvaccinated complain when we get to 70%.”

     

    ……………………………………………………………………………….

    By complaining does she mean like ripping her head off her shoulders and shitting down her neck?


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  30. mh says:

    The Covid vaccines don’t stop you becoming infected.
    The Covid vaccines don’t stop you transmitting the virus.
    The Covid vaccines require booster shots every six months, indefinitely.
    The Covid vaccines can cause injury or death.

    Not sold on this ‘vaccine’ yet.


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  31. struth says:

    Women let off the leash.

    INSANITY.


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  32. Dot says:

    The Governor needs to step in and sack this shameful NSW junta.

     

    Their edicts are of questionable legality and lack proportionality at LL.


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  33. Farmer Gez says:

    TaliDan announcing there’ll be changes to LockDan restrictions announced tomorrow.

    It’s based on medical advice and low “numbers”

    What these “numbers” are nobody knows and Dan won’t say.

    They’re low “numbers” or we will gets thousands of cases and be like NSW and that’s a fact.

    It’s not a zero strategy…….?

    Dan is looking for a “sweet spot” between zero and a low number.

    What it is, he can’t say.

    FMD

     


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  34. Sirocco says:

    To all those who believe in docilely using the check-in app, and the desirability of lockdowns.  Waiting in the doctors surgery today and did not check-in as I was already on their computer for my appointment.  Was checking the mobile for sms message when a dialogue box popped to the effect that I had not checked into that establishment, and requested to press a tab to complete check-in.  I binned it.

    Now just how did the app know where I was?  Are we being tracked, and not traced?  Is this how the app is being used?  To spy on our whereabouts and movements?

    Is this what Australia has come to?  Surveillance worthy of the CCP?

    Welcome to your brave new world, people.  You have my contempt.


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  35. twostix says:

    “There is no reason why anybody over a certain age should not have got the vaccine,” she said. “I’ve had the AstraZeneca. I’ve 50 years old. I’ve had the AstraZeneca.

    “Nobody of a certain age should have any hesitancy with the AstraZeneca.

    “And it’s really important to know that when we open up, those that are unvaccinated won’t be allowed to to other things because they will be exposed.

    “That is why at 70% double dose freedoms will extend to people that are fully vaccinated.

    “We cannot afford to have the unvaccinated exposed to venues and we can’t afford to have the unvaccinated susceptible to disease, to get disease.

    “That’s why we’re urging everybody, giving people plenty of notice to say if you want to participate in the freedoms that come with 70%, that come with 80%, please, please get vaccinated.

    “I don’t want people who have chosen to be unvaccinated complain when we get to 70%.”

     

    This is what happens when you let old childless spinsters run anything.  When pressure comes on, they revert to their instincts and unleash their pent up and thoroughly corrupted maternalism onto the people under them.

    She’s literally threatening people with a thousand guns if they don’t subject themselves to a medical procedure the don’t need or want.

     

    I hate the optics of all the ‘nazi germany duuurr!’ stuff, but this really is reaching Nuremberg level stuff in NSW.

     

     

     


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  36. incoherent rambler says:

    Is Dan going to make a late play for the AFL grand final?


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  37. Axl Rosé says:

    Sirocco says:
    August 31, 2021 at 12:20 pm
    I never put the app on my phone.  Delete it FFS.

    Most, if not all of this shit is bluff.  Stop being fooled.


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  38. twostix says:

    In our own history we’d have to go back to the enclosure acts and before that the english reformation to find the level of organised state violence, overt threats, ginning up of the mob and cat-and-mouse punishments coming from the state, media and establishment apparatus to terrorise the reluctant population into accepting a new social order as we’re seeing now.

     


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  39. Ragu Ragu says:

    Only way to stop this shit is a class action built on the state using coercion


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  40. Axl Rosé says:

    Surveillance worthy of the CCP?

     

    Yes.  This is what the whole covid thing has been about.  The introduction of a digital police state.

    Here.

    You’ll need that to get into Bunnings/Colesworths.


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  41. Ragu Ragu says:

    NSW cops slapped a firearms order on The Cossack (he sez he doesn’t own any) giving them powers to search his shit without a warrant whenever they like.

     

    This country is plooked


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  42. Farmer Gez says:

    Dictator Dan does a rhetorical triple somersault at the press conference.

    ”Vaccines are incredibly effective”

    A moment later.

    ”Getting to the 80% double vaccinated then we’ll probably be looking at boosters”


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  43. I never put the app on my phone.  Delete it FFS.
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    +lots

    If we keep taking up the offer of the gummint to make things easier for us, in the long run we’ll all live to regret it.  Last year, the Feds tried an app for this stuff and very, very few people took it up.

    In the main, few businesses ask for proof, so don’t do it.  And, if necessary, to access a place (in NSW, not sure about Victoria or elsewhere) you can use the on-line “manual” form of it.


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  44. srr says:

    Biden introduces “his boy” Senior Advisor and Director of Public Engagement, Cedric Richmond. Things go downhill from there:

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/30/joe-biden-introduces-america-to-woke-fema-and-his-boy-in-charge-of-hurricane-ida-recovery-efforts/

    As usual, The British Do It Better –

    In the Loop — White House Scene
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT-7RgLWvf4


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  45. twostix says:

    “That’s why we’re urging everybody, giving people plenty of notice to say if you want to participate in the freedoms that come with 70%, that come with 80%, please, please get vaccinated.”

    ‘participate in the freedoms’ == be allowed back into society.

    She’s literally telling you vaccination and acceptance of everything else they’re telling you is the only way into this monstrous ‘new normal’ society that has been hastily built and implemented.

     

     

     

     

     


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  46. Ruprecht Ruprecht says:

    Toby Greene 6 weeks. He’s the Latrell Mitchell of the AFL


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  47. Axl Rosé says:

    Toby Greene 6 weeks. He’s the Latrell Mitchell of the AFL

    Warranted.  He walked into the ump like a dickhead in a nightclub cruising for a fight.


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  48. incoherent rambler says:

    Axle Grease joins the mob.


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  49. Axl Rosé says:

    To be employed in any interaction with Branch Covidians


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  50. srr says:

    When the debate at the old cat was raging over the two boys the NHS KILLED rather than release them to hospitals overseas for treatment the NHS didn’t offer, pointing out the slippery slope of DEATH PANELS deciding who may & may not live, across the board, was violently attacked by the Pro-NHS Mob.

    The Mob that FEATURES one STILL CAMPAIGNING AGAINST NOW LEGAL, AGAIN, Ivermectin.

    How does anyone ever trust Pro-Death Panellists?
    Have they already been terrorised into publicly supporting Death Panellists?


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  51. Axl Rosé says:

    To be employed in any interaction with Branch Covidians


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  52. incoherent rambler says:

    The camel known as NSW electorate must be close to its maximum load of straws.

    Shirley.


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  53. Only way to stop this shit is a class action built on the state using coercion

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    I don’t understand why the anti-discrimination legislation clause on infectious diseases has not being used regarding employment.

    Being threatened with losing a job is covered by the legislation.  I saw Tanya Davies – a Western Sydney MLA – talk to a paramedic from Tumut, who has 25 years service,  who said that he and his wife (who’s a nurse) will resign (as will others he knows) before the end of Sept rather than have the jab, which is being made mandatory.

    I don’t know what Tanya’s view on this is – I’d think she’d support workers making claims of discrimination on this, but why, in the instance of the paramedic, or the tradies she was talking about, did she not point out that legislation?

    And if in a union, members should make contact to insist on support. Without an actual written policy on the vaccines from the employer, including the provision of  workers compensation because of the major side-effects, how could anyone be sacked?  (I know there’s now coverage from Sept (to be backdated) through the Federal Govt, but how generous is it vis a vis workers compensation and what about the fine print?)


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  54. Joanna says:

    There was supposed to be some sort of silent protests at council chambers all around the country today from 9am onwards.

    No-one turned up to Parliament House this morning. Plenty of police though. Many, many junior Vicpol. It appears that Dandenong and Wallen were the places to be. FB is supposedly deleting any images that are being posted.

    We also had no phone reception in the city. Coincidence, i’m sure.

     


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  55. Joanna says:

    Hmmm, the underline went missing.

    Black Ball, just letting you know what i saw in Melbourne this morning. Which was pretty much nothing, sadly.

     


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  56. twostix at 12:25 (quoting Gladys)

    “And it’s really important to know that when we open up, those that are unvaccinated won’t be allowed to to other things because they will be exposed.

    “That is why at 70% double dose freedoms will extend to people that are fully vaccinated.

    “We cannot afford to have the unvaccinated exposed to venues and we can’t afford to have the unvaccinated susceptible to disease, to get disease.

    “That’s why we’re urging everybody, giving people plenty of notice to say if you want to participate in the freedoms that come with 70%, that come with 80%, please, please get vaccinated.

    ____________________________________________________

    This is all leg pulling stuff.

    In the first breath – “you will miss out on freedoms.”

    In the second breath – “That’s why we’re urging everybody.”

    The number of times Gladys and her minions have used phrases that include “please” – “please go and get the vaccine,” would be in the hundreds.  “Requesting” and “pleading” and “urging” shows that there’s no power  in any of their words.  So they use empty threats – you won’t have any freedoms.

     


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  57. incoherent rambler says:

    To ensure that the new Chyner bug rules are followed we are installing cameras with microphones in every residence. The cameras will be installed in the rooms of greatest Chybug risk, including bedrooms.  Copyright of videos will be the exclusive property of the state.

    Once the cameras are installed there will be many more freedoms allowed.


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  58. Posting on Yob Cat feels a bit like putting an ad for your Betamax in The Age and waiting for the phone to ring.  Now I know how those Japanese machine gunners stuck in the jungle at the end of WWII must have felt.  At least I have some nano wrigglers for company.

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    Bear, in no way do I feel insulted by that! 😁

    Please go to it, and raise the tenor of the thread!

    btw, those Japs remained in the jungle because they were loyal to the Emperor – a  mistake; we stay because we like it!  Hope you will, too.

    Perhaps, we could each write one thing as a post for Adam?  Have a think.


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  59. srr says:

    “mortuary’s filled beyond capacity”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsBFLEapzfw
    Aug 31, 2021
    Tony Heller

    “Early in life I have noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper” – George Orwell


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  60. Steve trickler says:

    Aussie Cossack had his house raided by TWO Swat teams looking for a Kalashnikov.

    Vision being upload tonight.

    FMD.


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  61. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:

    Aussie Cossack had his house raided by TWO Swat teams looking for a Kalashnikov.
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    Punishment for having a video recording running while coppers make complete dickheads of themselves.


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  62. Steve trickler says:

    Doc Coleman:

    Transcript provided at the link if you want to skip watching the clip. It’s a good summary of this BS.

    Global Warming – the Fraud behind the Covid Fraud


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  63. incoherent rambler says:

    Have a think.

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    This is no time to take up a hobby.


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  64. slackster says:

    Sirocco says:
    August 31, 2021 at 12:20 pm

    Now just how did the app know where I was?  Are we being tracked, and not traced?  Is this how the app is being used?  To spy on our whereabouts and movements?

    —————-

    Yes the app is active all the time even when “closed” it continues to run in the background.

    It is a compliance check- the authorities can tell how many times you do or don’t check in if they want to pull your data.


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  65. Just registered here. This is a quick post to point out that I no longer identify as A Lurker, but rather, She Who Lurks


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  66. Indolent Indolent says:

    I don’t know what Tanya’s view on this is – I’d think she’d support workers making claims of discrimination on this, but why, in the instance of the paramedic, or the tradies she was talking about, did she not point out that legislation?

    *******************

    Again, this is American but it’s an absolutely brilliant approach to this problem –

    If You Do Not Want the Experimental Vaccine Send This to HR – LewRockwell

    Mark Latham put something up on his Facebook page about this which was posted here by this one is far more comprehensive – if you have the patience!


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  67. twostix says:

    In light of Scomenegle’s maniacal press conference where he declared daycare ‘no jab no play’ is now national policy for all adults in Australia, it’s obvious that Israel is the model that we’re following.

    So three months ago it was just ‘movies, restaurants and sports’ that you were banned from.

     

    Today in Israel:

    “Ministers of the high-level coronavirus cabinet voted Monday to expand the so-called Green Pass entry limitations to education, health, and social welfare institutions, a government statement said.”

    Also now punishing rebellious regions by banning their children from going to school until they comply:
    “Red City’ high schools with less than 70% vaccination rates to go to distance learning”
    This is a campaign.


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  68. candy says:

    “Ministers of the high-level coronavirus cabinet voted Monday to expand the so-called Green Pass entry limitations to education, health, and social welfare institutions, a government statement said.”

    ————————————-

    I tend to think PM Morrison is setting up Gladys to test the water with this, as is his style with things he is frightened to announce himself.

    I don’t think she knows what she is doing really.  Very nice lady, but simply out of her depth. Not ill meaning, just does not understand fully the implications of the policies she announces.  Dan Andrews does for sure, and is also letting her be the test case.


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  69. cohenite says:

    Aussie Cossack had his house raided by TWO Swat teams looking for a Kalashnikov.
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    Punishment for having a video recording running while coppers make complete dickheads of themselves.

    Sounds racist because he looks Russian or Chinese or something. They should have said they were looking for a S&W. Typical white supremacist wallopers.


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  70. Axl Rosé says:

    Very nice lady, but simply out of her depth. Not ill meaning, just does not understand fully the implications of the policies she announces.

    No.

    She might have a gun to her head; and if so should resign.  Otherwise she owns it.


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  71. cohenite says:

    “Very nice lady, but simply out of her depth.”

    You did see who she appointed as her chief of staff: this commie:

    Gladys’s frightening communist ties revealed – Politics, Policy, Political News (politicom.com.au)


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  72. Vicki says:

    “Also now punishing rebellious regions by banning their children from going to school until they comply:
    “Red City’ high schools with less than 70% vaccination rates to go to distance learning”
    This is a campaign.”

     

    It’s bloody heartbreaking.

    My 15 year old granddaughter, who didn’t want to be vaccinated, is now saying she has to, since she thinks her (private) school will not let her attend classes without a vax certificate.

    I have advised her mother to have her ovarian eggs harvested & frozen before vax as a precaution.

    I wonder if the NSW & C’wealth Liberal governments have any idea what hatred they are creating in those who hold the concept of individual choice as sacred.


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  73. srr says:

    Thanks for this, it’s always good to have another mob to name when online propagandists try to mock away the fact of Govt Propaganda Units –
    https://newcatallaxy.blog/2021/08/28/open-thread-weekend-28-aug-2021/comment-page-7/#comment-7223
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    From Nilk’s Cat – “Perfidious Albino — Today at 14:46

    Interesting. The VIC Nudge team did a project for Brett Sutton on improving take up of the HPV vaccine – essentially getting schools to share student names and parent contact info so they can be ‘nudged’. Also notes that the Vic unit works closely with the UK team (presumably the one based in Sydney) and a behavioural unit at Monash uni.”
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    My daughter rang me from Uni when they first started pushing the HPV, especially to those young adults who were residents, immersed in the Pro-HPV propaganda & away from their families.
    It was the sleazy way they were pushing it that made her baulk & not have it.
    Again she’s been glad she did, as yet again she didn’t suffer any of the fresh new health hells her contemporaries have.


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  74. jo says:

    Gladbags is not young and nieve like the lying slapper. This discusting pos is in the top job and out of her depth like the majority of pollies in this country. I look forward to seeing their heads rolling in the streets. Pollie soccer, top rating tv.


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  75. struth says:

    It only seems like yesterday we were on the old cat talking about Australia becoming Hivizestan and arguing about superannuation and self funding retirements etc.


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  76. srr says:

    “This is a campaign.”, it’s also evil and also why so many around the world were banned, cancelled, throttled, kettled, and generally packed attacked by those tasked with pushing through acceptance of the various components of ‘The Great Reset’.

    Many saw & forewarned how groups such as Common Purpose, their spin offs & foundational groups work to get free people to give up their freedoms to the same people who run Death Panels & kill ‘bothersome’ people, with the full support of the majority, e.g. the NHS & Medicare criminalising treatments that could save lives & that free people are willing to pay for themselves.

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    “twostix says:
    August 31, 2021 at 3:34 pm

    In light of Scomenegle’s maniacal press conference where he declared daycare ‘no jab no play’ is now national policy for all adults in Australia, it’s obvious that Israel is the model that we’re following.

    So three months ago it was just ‘movies, restaurants and sports’ that you were banned from.

    Today in Israel:

    “Ministers of the high-level coronavirus cabinet voted Monday to expand the so-called Green Pass entry limitations to education, health, and social welfare institutions, a government statement said.”

    Also now punishing rebellious regions by banning their children from going to school until they comply:
    “Red City’ high schools with less than 70% vaccination rates to go to distance learning”
    This is a campaign.”


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  77. Armadillo says:

    I tend to think PM Morrison is setting up Gladys to test the water with this, as is his style with things he is frightened to announce himself.

    ……………………………………………….

    Morrison is an idiot. Setting up this “National Council” was astoundingly stupid.

    Its a variation on believing that by “throwing the left” some scraps, they will leave you alone. What an utter goose.

    The minute you gain power, you have to sack every last one of these bastards. Clear out the public service, and give the remaining ones that you can’t sack zero oxygen.

    Conservatives make the same mistake. Every. Single. Time.

    The left will never love you. Ever.

     

     


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  78. srr says:

    “struth says:
    August 31, 2021 at 4:26 pm

    It only seems like yesterday we were on the old cat talking about Australia becoming Hivizestan and arguing about superannuation and self funding retirements etc.”

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    … and the day before yesterday when Sinc was banning those who dared mention the massive role that ‘Medical Professionals’ would play in bringing the world under a totalitarian dictatorship, ‘for our own good’.

    After all, you could only yell, ‘Conspiracy Nut!’, so often before others noticed those doing that yelling were also ‘justifying’ things like the Death Panels, that the banned were warning of … and here we are …


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  79. Dot says:

    Compulsory, non existent vaccine update:

     

    COVID live updates: NSW Health Minister says not enough Pfizer for everyone who wants it.

     

    I don’t if to laugh or cry.


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  80. struth says:

    Morrison is a glabalist and a traitor and evil. People are still thinking he’s just an idiot that doesn’t know how to fight the left and is just a mug who wants to be loved by all.

     

     

    I know who the mugs are.


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  81. cohenite says:

    Dover’s site has been blown up?


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  82. Dot says:

    DDOS? Bird strike? $2 per month server subscription?


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