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A link to Adam Pigott’s latest musing.
I like the way he thinks, may not agree with everything he says but read it and make up your mind.
I think Adam the admin of this site would do well for the forum to let people guest-post.
Someone like Arky or some others from the old Cat would be a good start.
If they are willing of course.
Peace.
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Thanks for the pics, MarkA.
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Please start a war with those at war with us and the easiest to destroy.
The Media.
I’m at work and have to listen to the bloody radio ..my god they are going to hear from me..I had enough of listening to this bullshit.
They need calling out and they need to be read the riot act.
They are literally getting away with murder.
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The rural city of Shepparton is now in the grip of medical martial law with a third of its residents compelled into isolation.
The big list of exposure sites in a place this size guarantees that a big percentage of the population will have been in one or more of the businesses marked for the pox.
TaliDan and Bambi Sutton are effectively shutting down the ability of Shepparton to function for its citizens.
420 medical staff have been stood down to add to the dictated chaos.
The stupidity of this is breathtaking.
The opposition should announce that they will hold a royal commission into Andrew’s and Sutton’s management of the pandemic if elected.
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They pick Shepperton to tyrannize because it’s regional and there are only 3 white left there.
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Mark A not agreeing with everything is a mark (no pun intended) of a conservative. Change happens slowly. Agood idea is challenged, if it stands up to scrutiny it may get accepted. I am hard pushed to think of a single thing the left has produced except a swath of destruction. For them its a race to the bottom, no idea is too crazy. Off to check my wife’s heart.
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MP Suzanna Sheed from Shepparton, fuck off with the Army packing your groceries. You have a whole city full of voters. Show some courage and organise your people, and tell Andrews that you will not be repressed
The Army is not a substitute for democracy. Using them simply supports Andrews. Grow up.
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Try this one for Dover’s site:
https://newcatallaxy.blog/2021/08/21
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“For the good of the country, and freedom and liberty, I wish these other centre-right parties, will set aside their own political ambitions, find common ground and work together for just this one election and term.”
Yes. Otherwise it’s divide and rule. Libs win.
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I am forced to listen to this unadulterated crap on the local regional radio.
Something I’d given up years ago.
I notice a lot less adds.
Does anyone know how much government money is funding MSM claiming to private companies?
I surely isn’t just regulatory threats.
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Catturd ™ on Twitter: “The government of Australia is treating someone who sneezed, alone in an elevator like he was Ted Bundy. At this point, they’re beyond batshit crazy.” / Twitter
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Ms Berejiklian will announce a non-restriction for the vaccinated this week. I wonder what it will be and how do authorities check. Do the vaxxed need to carry a receipt confirmation document from the doctor or do they show their MyGov to a security guard or someone which seems a violation.
Or is a card still in the works to be produced that says vax status.
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Get the jab, you’re putting my health at risk.
Status / Gab Social
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Sounds like we need a Murdoch Royal Commission.
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Just so Cats know, Rafe Champion has the keys to Jo’s blog and is putting his climate and renewables stuff there.
Here’s his most recent post – https://joannenova.com.au/2021/08/rafe-champion-guest-post-the-failure-of-wind-power-in-south-australia/
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Old School, re the millions unemployed and truck drivers, the problem is that driving heavy vehicles isn’t easy and the heavier and bigger they are the harder it is. Throw in unbelievably stupid regulations, onerous fines for even minor infractions and that you may at best get home once a week sometimes once a fortnight or longer and then you’ll see why there’s a shortage. The pay around $1200k to $120k may sound good but you live like a dog in the truck for most of the year, always tired and worn out. There’s been a big influx of turban wearers into the game however most appear to have little skill or training, how they get licenced is beyond me.
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“Just so Cats know, Rafe Champion has the keys to Jo’s blog and is putting his climate and renewables stuff there.”
He should post elsewhere. Jo Nova lost her mind over Covid. She thinks cutting Australia off from the world is “living normally”. Complete loon.
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80 cases in TaliDanistan.
Lockdown working anytime from now.
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Apologies if this has been covered – I couldn’t keep up with the old Cat, let alone the new Cat variants.
Check out the difference between the population and GDP in 2011 versus the projections for 2025.
I’m told the data comes from the “Rockefeller Lockstep program” of 2010.
Deagel dot com is a website that provides news on military aviation and advanced technologies.
(Finger crossed that two links is OK…)
2011 – https://web.archive.org/web/20121202044346/http://www.deagel.com/country/
2025 – https://web.archive.org/web/20121107032020/http://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx
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Great collection of Great Deception links here – https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JJlTkTRq-K3uBp42onuJCpoc_v0uIqVG/view?usp=drivesdk
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Unfortunately Jo NJova has taken a total female hysterical piss pants stance on covid.
Women need to shut up about now.
There’s been enough damage done as they virtue signal each other into complete tyranny taking us with them.
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I have always said that Australia has some real cultural problems and they are now coming home to bite nus on the backside ….badly.
The least Christian of the anglosphere nations, replacing it with the religion of bureaucracy, and with a disgusting chip on their shoulders due to their own political ignorance and idiocy…….which stems from a lack of ethics due to the first point, they couldn’t stand “Yanks”….you know, they were so stupid compared to Aussies……….really?
I can guarantee you as a tour driver of many years, Australians are the worst tourists, why?
Because they know everything.
Yet they know nothing.
But the very worst is the fuck you Jack, I’m alright mentality.
I have grown to hate my country and countrymen even before covid and I must say, if my family and myself weren’t trapped here, I’d be laughing at this expected outcome.
The disgusting adherence to “Safety” was born out of needing an excuse to be lazy and do nothing, and the land that could have been a superpower with resouces to make actual superpowers envious, wallowed in pathetic mediocrity.
Never standing for anything but thinking they can “get around” everything, which we see combined with the “fuck you Jack I’m alright’ mentality when certain industries and people want “exemptions” from covid tyranny.
Unprincipled shit.
Let’s not forget the boring………….what a fucking boring, boring culture, where the men are meatheads, hence they keep the opium of the masses, football going for them to take their minds off their country being stolen, (like handing a guard dog a bone) and the women have way too much to say, and are mostly as ugly as a hat full of arseholes due to being ugly on the inside.
Tattooed to the point of being aptly labelled scenic roots, except you’d rather rub one out than let them anywhere near your knob.
However, there are about 1 million out of 26 million that are worth fighting and dying for.
What a bugger of a situation.
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So NSW residents locked in their homes being told they can only come out when they accept the new social order of getting ‘a jab’ when ordered to, and that you require a government issued license to walk down the street, go to work and enter shops.
Nobody at all accurately predicted this back in March 2020.
The blackest pill is that the people who were 100% wrong then, mocking and ‘don’t be so hysterical’ing, continue being 100% wrong now, and continue onwards as they line up for their phone to be scanned by the menacing police officers eying them off with contempt and suspicion at their presence outside their house.
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how they get licenced is beyond me.
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Ask Lindsay Fox.
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Struth Jonova lives in WA and some very strange rulings have come out of there .The owner of our retirement apartments from there has put in some very strange rules which are not the same as government rulings . For example bubble friend not allowed here even though ok in other such places. We are not allowed anyone in our apartments only carer if necessary so this has created a problem for me and my friend. .
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2025 – https://web.archive.org/web/20121107032020/http://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx
Just take a look at the USA – population down by about 130,000,000 (what happened to the millions of country shoppers) and GDP of less than a quarter of 2011.
Someone is putting in a lot of hard work to destroy this country, and the free world with it.
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Cardi, WTF???
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<i>struth says:
August 26, 2021 at 9:30 am
There’s been enough damage done as they virtue signal each other into complete tyranny taking us with them</i>
struth, don’t paint everyone as thinking the same way. Yes, it’s true, that some women virtue signal, as do other groups for different reasons: see school teachers and climate change, but even so, not every school teacher.
Not all girls buckle.
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Min, I have travelled through WA a couple of Months ago.
Crossed the Nullabor, worked over there for a few weeks between Geraldton and Albany and all points in between.
Not ever covid tested, never jabbed, never wore a mask.
But, hey, I’m not human, I was an interstate truck driver then.
You people over there a MUSHROOMS.
Australia, being isolated and imprisoned are being fed bullshit.
However Perth is the most isolated English speaking city in the world.
You people have Mushroom-id 19 worse than anyone on the planet.
The amount of times I heard “well, we’re doing alright over here because the borders are closed” was INSANE.
Think about it.
I pull up im a truck straight from Melbourne and they tell me …..me…..how happy they are the borders are closed.
They say it to me.
So I can only conclude they see me as a non human, unable to spread the disease.
This is the level of insanity reached.
The nation has been driven insane due to our isolation and imprisonment, and none moreso than the Western Australians.
It works on the degree of isolation.
I don’t think Australia can come back from this.
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We can look forward to Shepparton featuring on Tucker Carlson Tonight.
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I generalise BBS.
I am not complimentary of the men either, you may noite.
But generally speaking someone like you, on the female side is very much in the minority.
Most of the women that I have known and now know only on facebook etc, can’t stand me anymore, because I interupt their virtue signalling to each other about getting the jab etc.
I couldn’t give a flying f…
They are destroying the nation with their carry on and they need to be told.
By men, who are absolutely avoiding their resposibilities by not doing so.
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Japan’s health ministry said Thursday it has received reports from several domestic mass vaccination centers that some portion of the unused doses of Moderna Inc.’s COVID-19 vaccine have been found to contain foreign materials.
Japanese drugmaker Takeda Pharmaceutical Co., which is in charge of sales and distribution of the Moderna vaccine in the country, said it is suspending the use of around 1.63 million doses manufactured in the same production line as a precaution.
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Alex Berenson on Twitter: “1/ Wow. New Israeli preprint shows natural immunity to #SARSCoV2 is FAR superior to the artificial kind – vaccinated people were 13x as likely to be infected and 27x to have symptomatic infections as a matched cohort that was previously infected. And this is with Delta dominant. https://t.co/hhD9h0vyMS” / Twitter
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We are not allowed anyone in our apartments only carer if necessary so this has created a problem for me and my friend. .
Wrap a bandage around each foot and hire a wheelchair from somewhere, then tell them that you need a carer.
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The level of trust in corrupt bureaucracies, to the extent people will put an untested genetic concoction into them, with all the evidence of the sinister intent and the indemnification of it’s manufacturers and “pushers” defies belief.
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Timjbo
@Tim_jbo
The daily pro lockdown #GreatReset #Totalitarianism group think stance by journalists, politicians & police is hurting Australians. You know we have crossed a very dangerous & scary line when the police start deciding in advance who is likely to commit a crime.
@rowandean
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<blockquote>The blackest pill is that the people who were 100% wrong then, mocking and ‘don’t be so hysterical’ing, continue being 100% wrong now, and continue onwards as they line up</blockquote>
Fact Check:
TRUE
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Klaus says hi!
’Close to one-third of Greater Shepparton’s workforce is in isolation, and that means reduced milk and fruit production, fewer trucks to Melbourne carrying our produce to the world, and lower productivity in what is usually a manufacturing powerhouse.
Many people not in the workforce – vulnerable people, retirees, and children – are also locked down, and can’t go out to access food and other necessities…’
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/shepparton-grinds-to-a-halt-with-covid-outbreak-20210825-p58lrd.html
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The Rowan Dean link ⬆️
https://twitter.com/Tim_jbo/status/1430323698876116992?s=20
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Thanks Indolent.
I think we can safely say the chief Swedish Health Officer was right eighteen months ago and remains so in light of the evidence piling up on his side of the debate.
Patients in a serious condition:
Sweden 37
Australia 125
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Not all are f8cked in the head over here, Struth. With that said, you a largely correct. Embarrassing amount of brainwashed people in this State. Still buying the West Stokes Newspaper every morning and consuming the crap on television. Listening to FM/AM radio religiously every day.
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Just had a look at Arky’s news conference. Actually quite humorous. Well done Arky.
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Struth,
Its OK, get on the railway wagon. There’ll be fine meals, luxurious accomodation and showers at the camp.
I realised about 20 years ago that most people, if they get a call from the government at 7pm that there will be a bus to take them to the camp at 7 am next morning, the only question will be “what should I pack?”.
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They are destroying the nation with their carry on and they need to be told.
By men, who are absolutely avoiding their resposibilities by not doing so.
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+11
We went to the dentist yesterday. Lets just say that I’ve known Dr K for a very long time.
First, he basically ordered my missus to Stop Worrying About The Covid. Which, she actually took on board. She won’t listen to me so that was a good outcome.
Secondly, the doc’s rational, sensible, scientifical and above all, patriarchal, influence has pervaded the entire dental group. The staff were maskless although behind perspex. no hysterics and obsessing over check-in questionnaires. No warning tape on alternate seats in the waiting room (do youse have this in other states?)
It’s all him. He’s managed to actually calm them all the fuck down
It’s too hard to explain in short form … the whole thing was very refreshing.
Was like going back in time 2 years and being around normal rational people again
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Rush hour at Oshkosh. Credit to the bloke in ATC seat. Champion.
“When the world’s busiest airport lives up to the title! Morning haze kept all VFR departures grounded on Saturday, July 31st. As soon as the airport was opened, aircraft flooded the taxiways wanting to head home. The volunteers and air traffic controllers worked together to launch approximately 400 aircraft in about 90 minutes – about one takeoff every 13 seconds!”
Oshkosh at its Busiest! Rapid-Fire Departures – Saturday Part 4 – EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2021
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Morrison (Sooty)
“12-15 year olds will be vaccinated to reach our vaccination goal.”
Sick sad preacher man.
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how they get licenced is beyond me.
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Has anyone asked Dick Pussy to comment on this matter?
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Misogyny morning
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Lockdown working:
‘NSW has recorded 1029 new cases of Covid-19, smashing previous records and sending cases into four digit figures.’
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Dear Gulag Gladys,
The vaccines don’t stop the spread, either. Look at Israel.
Time to open up and learn to live with another Coronavirus.
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Great lame pics.
On the zombie now destroying the US and the world:
Before he became demented biden was a corrupt, arrogant, stubbornly stupid bastard. Senility will not mask the old pedo’s personality traits, it will in fact magnify them. I am beginning to think the old mongrel is making a lot of these decisions, no doubt on the basis of his vast political experience (sarc off). There is, also, no doubt other people pulling the strings for the old dirtbag – rice, obuma, the squad, the rest of the swamp – but I believe he has considerable input.
At the end of the day, the disasters confronting the US, all of them will be caused to a lessor or greater extent but this vile man.
Hanging is too good for him.
No Americans Have Been Rescued Outside of Kabul: Pentagon
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FBI agents behaving badly again.
and Dilbert
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Cats,
I think this post by Jo Nova is one of the most informative and analytical re the current situation in Oz. You may not agree with some of her conclusions, but it is great info.
I think, for example, although she acknowledges the importance of anti-viral, she may underestimate them. On the other hand, she makes the bold criticism of the opening of international borders.
Anyway, a great post.
“The Australian Federal government wants to “open up the nation” when we reach 70 or 80% vaccinated, like it’s The Sign of Bethlehem, or something, but the No-Covid States are rebelling and it’s no wonder. Being free of Chinese Bioweapons means being free to dance, sing, work and send the kids to school — and the voters rather like that. No virus means no lockdown. The States with zero covid know that if they let the virus in even at 80% “vaxed” they’ll have less freedom. They might get to fly to London but they’ll have to give up Big Weddings, Parties, and possibly Grandpa too.
The key value is and always was hospital beds. The hospitalization rates mean even at the magical 80% double-vaccinated mark hospitals will be overwhelmed, forcing states to flatten the curve for months and stand in the street banging tin pots at 9pm each night to say thanks to strung out health workers. We don’t need modeling to know this, it happened already in places like the UK, Spain and Italy. It only took a few percent of the population to get infected and hospitals were overwhelmed.
It’s just maths. There are 12,000 active cases in Sydney now — so a mere 0.15% of the NSW population is infected, but hospitals are already running out of beds. Cancer surgery is being rescheduled.
Photo by Hakan Nural on Unsplash
These first generation vaccines are not remotely good enough. Even most of the pro-vax modelers admit we have to vaccinate more 90% of the whole population (really 95%, they say) and in that scenario, there are still thousands of deaths and ongoing restrictions. If the vaccines stopped transmission it might be different. But the leaky sort only halve it (see Table 3 below). Even the 100% vaccinated cruise ship still spread the virus.
If States-with-Freedom open borders to States-with-lockdowns, the lockdowns will spread, not the freedom.
Before we open up we need a better plan than purist vaccination.
The solution is profoundly right wing: it’s hard borders, state rights, free speech and free choice — the right to pick the treatment we want with our doctor. But bizarrely, at the moment, the conservative party in Australia has become the best friend of Big Pharma and Big Bureaucrats while The Labor Premiers are fighting for hard borders and state rights.
Relying on first generation vaxes without antivirals is a train-wreck.
It’s almost like Scott Morrison and Gladys Berejiklian like lockdowns. Judge them by the outcomes, not their words. How many billions of dollars lost, deaths, and broken businesses will it take for them to investigate the bargain vitamin and out-of-patent drugs that have saved thousands in the third world? Instead, they’re trying to sell us on a scheme that might have been written by Big Pharma itself.
Morrison must be frazzled, calling West Australians and Queenslanders “cave dwellers,” because they have not ram-vaccinated as many people as disaster-land-NSW. With insults and a totally Sydney-centric perspective, he may have just handed the next national election to Labor. Were the Liberals hoping to win any seats in WA? Did the Liberals learn nothing from their humiliating WA state election loss?
There is a battle of models going on as well, as various Governments in Australia try to figure out what to do next. All of these models start from the one-eyed Vaccines-Will-Save-Us-Kemosabe! point of view. But it’s eye opening to follow the calculations which mostly show that infecting the nation at 70 or 80% vaxed is reckless. The only model that doesn’t is the Doherty institute’s, and it’s a fantasy model. But that’s the one Scott Morrison is betting the house on. All the models assume there is no other treatment and no one does anything to raise Vitamin D or Zn levels. So all the models are flawed, but we can still learn something from them.
The Grafton ANU modelling concludes that the toll from playing games with novel viruses could be quite high:
“And assuming 80 per cent vaccination coverage for only those over 16, as per the National Plan, there could be approximately 25,000 fatalities and some 270,000 cases of long COVID.
Buried quietly is modelling from The Burnet Institute, which suggests that fully 45% of these deaths will be among the vaccinated population. There are three million Australians older than 70. Even if we vaccinate 95% of them, and even if the Pfizer vaccine protects 96% of that group, there are still potentially a lot of dead bodies in that age group in the wake of the virus. (And the AZ vaccine only stops 92% of deaths.)
No one wants to copy the pain that the people of NSW are going through. Who can blame the smaller states? We almost suspect that what Berejiklian and Morrison are most afraid of is that clean states will show how wrong and incompetent the NSW approach is.
What if the ACT, Victoria, or New Zealand get back to zero? Won’t that make the “gold standard” state look like chumps.
Image: Scientific Animations
The Doherty team models a different virus in an imaginary world
In a fantasy simulation the Doherty group pretend we start with only 30 cases, which is about 900 cases lower than NSW already has. They assume we can manage to track and trace them, which has already failed in NSW (test results are slow, and tracers are not even phoning infected people for a couple of days!). The Doherty model pretends that children don’t spread the virus much, and only runs the simulation for the first six months. It’s like they set out to show the nation can open at 70-80%, and made up the assumptions to achieve that.
In the fine print the Doherty group also assumes the Ro (rate of spread) is reduced from an awesome 6.3 down to 3.6. That means they also assume many ongoing restrictions are in place to halve the rate of spread. Presumably that means Australia can kiss goodbye to football finals, concerts, festivals, big weddings and funerals, and “live with” ongoing masks and lots of distancing. This is a Big-Pharma version of freedom, where we live with death and the last 20-30% of the population are put under major pressure to get vaxed or to hide from public life. How much fun can you have? Booster shots, baby! Big Pharma know that if the nation opens up at 80% the headlines will be full of stories of loss and deaths and reasons to push the last 20% towards an injection.
The Grafton modelling estimates hospitalization and deaths
Here’s a table we rarely see. There are a lot of caveats –see below.
CHR – Case Hospitalization rate. IFR – Infection fatality rate.
Deaths may be higher because…
They don’t include deaths related to long covid, or an “overshoot of herd immunity” which I think means a surge that overwhelms hospitals where death rates rapidly rise. They don’t include deaths due to non-Covid causes, such as suicides, undiagnosed cancers, or people avoiding hospitals because they are afraid of catching Covid.
These estimates only consider immediate acute Covid deaths. But in the first wave of the UK epidemic, people who survived and left hospital were subsequently four times as likely to be readmitted to hospital and eight times as likely to die than a matched control group. [14] In other words, deaths can lag illness by a long time.
The next mutation escapes the current vaccines.
Deaths may be lower if…
Australians have higher levels of Vitamin D, maybe lower levels of comorbidities or high risk genes, or they might get scripts to use antivirals. These are not even mentioned in the paper.
The death rate due to Delta is lower than estimated here. The death rates are estimated from Canadian data which estimates that Delta is 2.3 times as deadly as the original Wuflu [11].The hospitalization rate is likely be to be twice as much as the Alpha strain, which was already 1.5 times higher than the original, based on English and Scottish data [8] [9]). The hospitalization rate for Delta is thus three times higher than the original Wuhan Flu. It’s bad. The Delta variant pumps up the viral load faster, so it swamps immune systems faster and spreads more easily. That explains the higher hospitalization rate, and it’s hard to believe it won’t also increase the death rate — but it may not increase it by the same ratio. The deaths are more about vascular clotting and an overactive immune system, which doctors might be still able to treat.
Vaccines assumed to stop half of transmission:
Though if the Israel data applies to all cohorts, after 6 months, VE of infection is 0.16 and presumably OR (Transmission) must be less too.
The ChADOx means Astrazenica, and Comrinaty means Pfizer vax.
From the ANU Grafton modelling press release:
Even 80% vaxed is not enough for Australia to live free
Professor Quentin Grafton from The Australian National University, Dr Zoë Hyde from the University of Western Australia and Professor Tom Kompas from the University of Melbourne examined the Australian Government’s National Plan to reduce restrictions once enough adults are vaccinated.
Under the National Plan, once more than 80 per cent of adults receive two doses of COVID-19 vaccines, equivalent to approximately 65 per cent of the total population, the nation will “manage COVID-19 consistent with public health management of other infectious diseases”.
Professor Grafton said the new modelling showed “we simply can’t afford to do that, both in terms of lives and long-term illness from COVID”.
“We found substantial morbidity and mortality is likely to occur if the Australian Government sticks to the National Plan,” he said.
“Our modelling shows if 70 per cent of Australians over 16 years of age are fully vaccinated, with a 95 per cent vaccination level for those aged 60 years and over, there could eventually be some 6.9 million symptomatic COVID-19 cases, 154,000 hospitalisations, and 29,000 fatalities.
“And assuming 80 per cent vaccination coverage for only those over 16, as per the National Plan, there could be approximately 25,000 fatalities and some 270,000 cases of long COVID.
“In contrast, and if children are also fully vaccinated, national fatalities for all age groups would be reduced to 19,000 with 80 per cent adult vaccination coverage. This would fall to 10,000 at a 90 per cent adult vaccination coverage.
“Children also directly benefit from vaccination. If we could achieve 75 cent vaccination coverage among children and adolescents, we could prevent 12,000 hospitalisations in these age groups.”
Grafton conclusions are to Triple vax the over 60s and vax all the kids?
The Grafton team are essentially saying we need to vaccinate at least 90% of all Australians including children to consider opening with a lower death rate. They assume that 95% of the over 60s are vaccinated, and even consider doing this with two doses of AZ plus the Pfizer booster shot to maximize protection. But even with all that vaccination, the death rates are still too high unless children are vaccinated too. Even under this scenario, with “only” 70% of Australians vaccinated and the over 60’s “triple vaxed,” they estimate there will still be nearly 30,000 deaths and nearly 300,000 with long Covid.
Nearly half of the deaths will be in the vaccinated.
Readers may well disagree with the conclusions, but the modeling and assumptions and references are all there to discuss. (See the links below).
Nearly 7 million Australians will get symptomatic infection — which still means some significant productivity hit to workers and students, even if “it’s like the Flu”. We can bear that, but do we have to?
Locally acquired cases in each Australian state for the last seven days.*
Is it worth it?
All these deaths, the sickness, and the experimental vaccines is to allow us visit friends overseas, and let in tourists to help our tourism industry. It also means Qantas can make more money, and we can accept mass immigration that most Australian don’t want (and which pushes down blue collar wages, and pushes up house prices). It also means we can take in Chinese paying students to universities. “Yay”.
Obviously the West has totally failed to stop the Chinese Bioweapon. It is now a given that we’ll all get it or one of its descendants eventually. But there is a huge difference between getting this mutation now — without any respectable approved treatments and with 30,000 deaths — and getting a different mutation a year from now — with a suite of antivirals and / or the second generation of vaccines (which might be so much safer). Monoclonal antibodies may make travel possible without a vaccine. So may a combination of antivirals, like the way we treat AIDS. The next mutation may get nicer like Spanish Flu did, or it might not.
What they are trying to do is distract Australians from the real debate, which is about borders and antivirals.
The modelling from Professor Grafton, Dr Hyde and Professor Kompas is available online as a pre-print publication. Read an analysis article by the three researchers about their findings and proposed four-step national COVID-19 response at Policy Forum.
PS: Before commenters say it, this modelling is not “like climate change”. That doesn’t make it right, but it’s 20 pages not 2000, it’s all published, the assumptions are spelled out and it isn’t trying to predict waves of infections on a regional basis using a bottom up grid system with error bars wider than the trends. Nor is it trying to predict mutations and death rates 100 years in the future.
The point is not the exact number of deaths, but that using purely vaccines and ignoring all the other solutions is a bad strategy.”
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Stats on Australian infections: https://www.covid19data.com.au/ and https://covidlive.com.au/
[8] Nyberg T, Twohig KA, Harris RJ et al. Risk of hospital admission for patients with SARS-CoV-2
variant B.1.1.7: cohort analysis. BMJ 2021; 373: n1412.
[9] Public Health England. SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in
England. Technical briefing 15. London: Government of the United Kingdom, 2021.
[11] Fisman DN, Tuite AR. Progressive increase in virulence of novel SARS-CoV-2 variants in
Ontario, Canada. medRxiv [pre-print] 2021.
[14] Public Health England. SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in
England. Technical briefing 20. London: Government of the United Kingdom, 2021.
ANU Modelling Press release . Paper in PDF.
*Said with hubris.
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On the zombie now destroying the US and the world:
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For starters, Biden may have just broken NATO.
There are now calls from within the European Union for “strategic autonomy” as the realisation dawns that not only can the US not be relied upon to underwrite European security in the future, they are not even a trustworthy ally.
Is anyone in Canberra paying attention?
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Time to open up and learn to live with another Coronavirus.
Maybe she wants a sort of vaccine “passport” officially first so that if there are various outbreaks as for sure there will be, there will be a sector to blame, making it easier politically if things go wonky.
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Shyted, that Dilbert cartoon is great. Thank you.
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Globalist going down!
Trudeau’s poll gamble backfires as lead evaporates
The Canadian PM’s political future is on a knife-edge amid criticism of a selfish power-grab during a Covid-19 fourth wave.
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Apart from what he’d like for breakfast, lunch and dinner, Biden would have zero input into anything. 100% swamp puppet.
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Dictator Dan now leaving people in Shepparton without food.
Emergency services now organising food drop offs to the sixteen thousand in isolation.
Covid Propaganda Commissar leads off with the younger cases in hospital. No data on the oldies of course.
TaliDan challenges anyone to come up with a better plan (Sweden), then says there is no other way than his way. Psychotic.
Someone put these miserable pricks out of our misery.
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Stew Peters Show:
Globalist tyrants are making their final full court press as the push to inoculate every living organism on the planet ramps up, threats of lockdowns and mandates loom, and governments violate the rights of their citizens.
DeAnna Lorraine illustrates the real reason for the immediate push as she joins Stew Peters for “Shots Fired”
It’s a RACE! Tyrannical Globalists Are CAUGHT! Full Court Press is ON!
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‘Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk has defended keeping Prime Minister Scott Morrison in the dark as constructions starts on a 1000-bed regional quarantine hub at Wellcamp, just outside Toowoomba’
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Did someone say constitutional crisis?
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Chris Sky
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My illegal kidnapping, in Winnipeg
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Is anyone in Canberra paying attention?
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Perhaps Boris Johnson and Scott Morrison are at fault here too for not overseeing the withdrawal from their own country’s point of view. Leaving it all to Biden who is demented.
It seems no world leader was paying attention or listening to advice from Intelligence and the disaster just unfolded while they were asleep, or more likely simply did not care until it was beemed around the world with desperados clinging to the undercarriage of a plane. Only then did they take notice.
It seems like mass incompetence.
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Nazi scum.
KLAUS SCHWAB IN 2016 TALKED ABOUT CHIPS IN THE HUMAN BODY! TIN FOIL HAT?
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The Gulag Gladys Hilarity Hour must have been fun today. What amazing privileges. It’s the start of NSW sanctioning medical apartheid
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Australia international border closures: I spent $40,000 and five weeks in quarantine to not see my family
Gaynor Reid
https://www.traveller.com.au/australia-international-border-closures-i-spent-40000-and-five-weeks-in-quarantine-to-not-see-my-family-h1y5q6
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Have wheel clamps been put on here?
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France this evening (Tommy Robinson) –
Status / Gab Social
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It seems no world leader was paying attention or listening to advice from Intelligence…
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In fact, a large part of the apparent complacence of Western leaders can be sheeted home to poor intelligence, which overestimated the security of Kabul.
What Biden in particular is directly responsible for, however, is the chaotic departure of American forces before civilians were evacuated and for providing no logistical or air support to the ANA since April, which explains the Taliban’s rapid progress across the country. For 20 years the ANA had been trained to fight the Taliban by seeking them out and calling in air strikes against them. Not only were they left without air support from mid-April but even ammunition was in short supply. Biden’s subsequent characterisation of Afghan’s as cowards was not only a national insult, it also rankled the veteran community.
Biden has provided the perfect illustration of the proverb that “America is harmless as an enemy and treacherous as a friend.”
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1 hour to have a picnic with 5 friends just to eat a fukin sandwich.
The country is down the shithole.
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“Given this background, the FDA’s acknowledgement in its approval letter that there are insufficient stocks of the licensed Comirnaty, but an abundant supply of the EUA Pfizer BioNTech jab, exposes the “approval” as a cynical scheme to encourage businesses and schools to impose illegal jab mandates.”
Very interesting article on how the FDA approval of the Pfizer jab is not quite what it seems.
2 Things Mainstream Media Didn’t Tell You About FDA’s Approval of Pfizer Vaccine • Children’s Health Defense (childrenshealthdefense.org)
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Lizzie of Sydney says:
August 26, 2021 at 8:01 am
“For the good of the country, and freedom and liberty, I wish these other centre-right parties, will set aside their own political ambitions, find common ground and work together for just this one election and term.”
“Yes. Otherwise it’s divide and rule. Libs win.”
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The Liberal Party (what a misnomer) in its present incarnation was formed by Bob Menzies from the merger of various smaller centre-right parties. They were successful due to Bob Menzie’s leadership, charisma, and public appeal.
I can’t think of anyone in the diverse array of minor centre-right parties who could replicate Bob Menzie’s ability to unite the various centre-right parties in the current political landscape. There are some noteworthy individuals, i.e., Craig Kelly, Mark Latham, Malcolm Roberts and a few others, but none who could galvanize the various groups to form a united “broad church” party.
An alternative approach could be for the various disparate parties to agree to not compete against each other, and to campaign in the next election under a common banner – No More Lockdowns! Once in Parliament the successful candidates would advance their various party’s policies, but they would be a united voice for the following:
No more lockdowns
No mandatory vaccinations
No vaccination passports
No more prohibitions on anti-COVID antiviral therapies
If One Nation, Liberal Democratic Party, Shooters Farmers Fishers, United Australia Party and others got together and agreed to run candidates under a common “No More Lockdowns!” banner they would do well. I don’t know how they would decide which party would stand in which electorate, draw tickets out of a hat?, but it’s still do-able.
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Dean Widders on Over The Black Dot last night. Talked about Aboriginal people and the vaccine. A lot of the blacks he has spoken with are either scared or not educated about it. So basically said make a choice on what you believe. Was quite refreshing.
But this had me thinking. The outback fellas. Wouldn’t have thought they have been exposed to covid, let alone the government lunacy surrounding the response to it. So as Roger mentioned yesterday (?) about some Aboriginal health body wanting all blacks to be vaccinated, in my mind it will end up shit. Bigly. I foresee quite a few deaths and injuries from the jab because of that lack of immunity.
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If One Nation, Liberal Democratic Party, Shooters Farmers Fishers, United Australia Party and others got together and agreed to run candidates under a common “No More Lockdowns!” banner they would do well.
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First they need to ensure they have 1500+ members.
That’ll soon be the new benchmark to obtain or retain registration of a political party under legislation introduced by the “Liberal” Party.
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You can foresee those deaths Black ball, and so can I, however like all the deaths already occuring, we won’t actually see them.
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So as Roger mentioned yesterday (?) about some Aboriginal health body wanting all blacks to be vaccinated, in my mind it will end up shit. Bigly. I foresee quite a few deaths and injuries from the jab because of that lack of immunity.
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The lady who heads up this mob, BB:
https://nacchocommunique.com/tag/pat-turner-naccho-ceo/page/2/
I’d not heard of her before but she’s evidently a big wig in indigenous health.
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It’s disobedience or death.
Take your pick.
A fine you won’t have to pay, or death?
Too straight forward for you Aussies?
Hoping someone else will make the first move?
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First they need to ensure they have 1500+ members.
That is not necessary if the party already has a member in parliament
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Farmer Gez says:
August 26, 2021 at 11:03 am
Morrison (Sooty)
“12-15 year olds will be vaccinated to reach our vaccination goal.”
Sick sad preacher man.
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There’s no “science” to support this move, the WHO, corrupt as it may be, says “Don’t vaccinate children”.
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Craig Kelly MP
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COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE that
@GladysB
is moving to create a two-tier society JUST WRONG We’re all equal AND should be treated EQUALLY OUR FREEDOMS that our ANZACs died for are NOT conditional on showing our PRIVATE health records Time to GO Gladys !!
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We don’t have time to worry about the next election.
By the time that comes around there won’t be one.
Stop trying to comfort yourself with a democratic option that no longer exists.
If we don’t fight this now, there will be no elections.
Disobedience.
Fucking Shepparton………..walk out tyhe fucking door of your houses you toitally insane fuckers.
Same with Melbournites and Sydney siders and anyone in lockdown.
YOU PUT YOURSELF THER YOU FUCKING CRETINS.
I’ve never worn a mask, never locked myself in my home…FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRK!!!!!!!
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Test.
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Fucking Shepparton………..walk out tyhe fucking door of your houses you toitally insane fuckers.
Same with Melbournites and Sydney siders and anyone in lockdown.
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True.
They also need to realise the concentration camps are not ready yet. Where are they going to put you all right now? Don’t wait until it’s too late. Carpe Diem!
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That is not necessary if the party already has a member in parliament
I wasn’t aware of that. In any case, I had to laugh at the rationale:
To ensure political parties are truly representative of the community.
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Klaus says hi!
The world economy’s supply chain problem keeps getting worse
https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/the-world-economy-s-supply-chain-problem-keeps-getting-worse-20210826-p58m0o.html
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NSW health system at breaking point according to the ABC.
A very long breaking point indeed, since they reported this weeks ago.
Jabbing the kids narrative undone by ABC’s own story of the an infected family with three kids.
Dad looking for a spot in hospital (jab status not mentioned…sus) Mum double jabbed but feels sick and the three kids from a baby to a young teen are positive but not feeling ill.
There you go Scotty vaccine pusher.
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Yes. ‘Tis quaint seeing people who think they can vote their way out of this.
“if Clive and Pauline and LibDems and…..” LOL
Still plugged into the old matrix despite all the evidence abundantly available to them.
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My local (useless) NSW liberal is not faring well on her facebook after today’s bullshit announcement. She tried to dress it up with copious emojis but probably 95% of the comments are scathing.
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The new buzz term amongst youngish people is “ethically non-monogenous.” Let’s be honest, that’s just a way for people who don’t believe in anything to justify their adultery or sluttiness when the gnawing conscience in the back of their head starts to make noises
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Don’t wait until you have to escape from Sobibor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdscP8zcD_k
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Oh noes, surely not Ch7. Over to Kochie for a comment.
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Roger says:
August 26, 2021 at 12:55 pm
If One Nation, Liberal Democratic Party, Shooters Farmers Fishers, United Australia Party and others got together and agreed to run candidates under a common “No More Lockdowns!” banner they would do well.
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First they need to ensure they have 1500+ members.
That’ll soon be the new benchmark to obtain or retain registration of a political party under legislation introduced by the “Liberal” Party.
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These are existing parties Roger, I’m sure they already have the required numbers. I’m not advocating for the creation of a new party.
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CH 7 Denham Hitchcock
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I’ve battled over whether to send this post from hospital or not.
But decided after 27 years of being a journalist who’s primary goal is to discover the truth – it would be hypocritical not to.
disclaimer first – I’m NOT anti vax. But I’m really not pro vax either. I’m pro choice – and pro information to make that choice.
above all I’m PRO opening the bloody country up and to do that I don’t see any way around getting the majority of Australia vaccinated.
So I got the Pfizer shot.
The first week was like any vaccine. Feeling off.
But nearing the end of the second week my heart started to race, I was getting pins and needles in the arms, extreme fatigue and a very strange sensation of dizziness. I took nurofen, and I kept working.
By the end of the third week i was getting steadily worse – sharp chest pain – cold shivers and chills – and the dizziness was intense.
25 days after the shot and probably a little late to hospital – but here I am – diagnosed with pericarditis – or inflammation of the heart due to the Pfizer vaccine…
(shy Ted link)
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Like the ch7 link shyted.
Having survived myocarditis I can tell you that I would prefer the blood clots that come with AZ than risk peri or myo carditis.
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RE: above link: CH 7 Denham Hitchcock
“If you don’t want the vaccine – i don’t have a problem with that either – but life and travel will get difficult for you.”
No Mate, life and travel has just got more difficult for you!
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Roger says:
August 26, 2021 at 12:30 pm
What Biden in particular is directly responsible for, however, is the chaotic departure of American forces before civilians were evacuated and for providing no logistical or air support to the ANA since April, which explains the Taliban’s rapid progress across the country. For 20 years the ANA had been trained to fight the Taliban by seeking them out and calling in air strikes against them. Not only were they left without air support from mid-April but even ammunition was in short supply. Biden’s subsequent characterisation of Afghan’s as cowards was not only a national insult, it also rankled the veteran community.
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Roger, the ANA were never going to fight the Taliban regardless of whether they had air support, ammunition, or whatever else. They are a tribalistic Islamic society, the ANA guys were never going to wage war against their more religiously austere countrymen.
As soon as NATO pulled out it was over, no conscripted Afghan was going to die fighting for gay rights, female emancipation or any other western notion on how societies should be organised.
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COVID-19: Just the Facts
This link provides an overview of the Covid 19 virus and was most recently updated on 20 August 2021. It is well worth reading and provides sources for any statistics and studies quoted. https://dailysceptic.org/covid-19-just-the-facts/
NB. I was reminded of the wealth of information contained in it when I read an article by Jo Nova here https://wentworthreport.com/2021/08/26/even-80-vaxed-australia-could-mean-25000-dead-270000-with-long-covid/ . She suggested that the Morrison government was basing its planning on a Canadian epidemiological model that said the Delta version is 2.5 times more lethal than the original version. I was sure this figure is incorrect so followed up via links referred to and according to reports of actual deaths, Delta is 2.4 times less lethal.
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https://caldronpool.com/journalist-speaks-out-after-being-diagnosed-with-inflammation-of-the-heart-due-to-pfizer-vaccine/
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