Open Thread – Tuesday 17 August 2021

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  1. H B Bear says:

    I note McGowan is saying he can still impose lockdowns with 80% vaccinated.
    Perhaps WA should just secede and become a democratic people’s republic?

    Sneakers is sounding particularly unhinged at the moment. It is getting hard to stand out.

    With iron ore at $150 a tonne – sure. If we lose the Chi!nks and it goes back to $20 that may be a problem.


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  2. Steve trickler says:

    McGowan thinks he is immune from future prosecution.

    He’s in for a shock.


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  3. rickw says:

    They will not risk being judged by free people of the future that may wish to hold them to account.
    They must remain anaccountable.
    How do you do that.
    You NEVER give people back their freedom, and by doing so, basically put yourself at their mercy.

    Very accurate.


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  4. rickw says:

    McGowan thinks he is immune from future prosecution.

    He’s in for a shock.

    Prosecution and jail time is the best possible outcome that any of them can expect.


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  5. H B Bear says:

    Before the Chinese got on board,iron ore price negotiations used to consist of flying to Tokyo and being told how much of a pay cut you were getting.


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  6. Roger says:

    Few have worked that the problem isn’t any one of these groups.

    The problem is Government.

    ———————-

    When you’ve had several generations brought up to believe that government is the answer to every problem, the notion that government might be the problem is akin to what heliocentrism was to the late medieval mind.


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  7. Ragu says:

    《I am wondering if these so called vaccines immediately attack the brain of the recipients.》

    Yes. Yes they do

    https://hardball.parkoffletter.org/pfizer-bio-distribution-study-submitted-to-the-japanese-government/

    《Remember, the research cited by Bridle at the beginning of this article found the spike protein accumulates in the spleen, among other places. Parkinson’s disease is a prion disease that has been traced back to prions originating in the spleen, that then travel up to the brain via the vagus nerve. In the same way, it’s quite possible COVID-19 vaccines may promote Parkinson’s and other human prion diseases such as Alzheimer’s.》

    See also here

    Worse Than The Disease: Reviewing Some Possible Unintended Consequences of mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19

    https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/23/34


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  8. srr says:

    “Indolent says:
    August 17, 2021 at 9:46 am

    Oh my God! They’re planning to herd children into stadiums and inject them, no parents allowed. They’re planning to get 24,000 through in a week.

    https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial/posts/106768239449355236

    This is getting beyond a nightmare. Someone, please wake me up.”
    _____________________________________________________

    Note the flash of Charlie with his “Golden Ticket”, forget the Vax-Passport, consider that Snowpiercer may as well be the sequel to Willy Wonker & The Chocolate Factory –

    Why SNOWPIERCER is a sequel to WILLY WONKA AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEX52h1TvuA


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  9. rickw says:

    What is the best thing we could be doing right now?

    We should be lodging in The UN Crimes Against Humanity Charges against all responsible politicians, police and public servants.

    The list of potential charges is manifold.

    The benefit? An Overton window shift:

    Drive the public to realise that the actions of these individuals and organisations is indeed criminal and that no crisis, real or manufactured, legitimises what they have done.

    Once the public realises the base criminality, the rest will follow.


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  10. FlyingPigs says:

    struth says:
    August 17, 2021 at 9:43 am

    We have a perfect storm.
    This is the simplified version.
    ………………………………………..
    Yes struth

    And it all provides ‘cover’ for politicians to borrow the West into such depths of indebtedness that no level of taxation will ever cover it.

    Crippling Inflation and Taxation are the stated triggers for “The Great Reset”.


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  11. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    BoN:

    Calli – They’re in a terrible bind. They have to know from overseas experience, especially in Israel, that 80% double dose vaccination does not prevent explosive spread, and it will not prevent large numbers of deaths of frail people in nursing homes.

    Yet they have dug a huge hole for themselves by banning ivermectin and HCQ, and monstering GPs who wish to prescribe them

    & wivenhoe +1

    It’s not good enough that these arseh*les (sorry, Adam 😁) are more concerned about that large hole that on their own they’ve dug but at the same time are deliberately ignoring that crater with scaffold that the men and women of Australia are working on.


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  12. struth says:

    Is this too much for facebook friends?

    To me, the government lied to the jabbed. Get vaccinated and be free.
    These hostage takers lied, as the non jabbed thought they might.
    Now the jabs don’t work but are hospitalising and killing thousands.
    Next flu and the “vaccinated” go down hard as Israel and Iceland are now showing us.
    More people are hospitalised who took the so called vaccine than didn’t.
    As you could imagine this is making what I like to call the “angryvaxxed” quite irritable as they realise they have been had and it could cost them their lives.
    They will lash out at all and sundry while never admitting they chose to make themselves part of a very large group of Darwin award winners.
    So they take it out on the non vaxxed and want to pressure us to have the jab!
    If you are going to force us you best do it quickly, while you are still alive.
    If you can’t do it in time, and the next sniffle sees your genetically modified spike proteins basically over react, at least you know you sacrificed your life for the good of the planet and Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab will be very happy.
    According to Bill there were 2 billion too many people on the planet anyway, he’s just saving it by killing you.


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  13. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    rickw, let’s watch Reiner Fuillmich’s case based on crimes against humanity in the German courts and lodged 21/6/21.


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  14. mh says:

    Can anyone see what date it is?
    Those xunts at Courier Paywall won’t say

    ‘Spring Break! New Ekka public holiday locked in
    The new date for this year’s Ekka Show Day public holiday has been locked in, after it was cancelled for the second year in a row due to this month’s snap Covid-19 lockdown, and it sets up a tempting option for a five-day break.’


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  15. struth says:

    The UN are doing this to us.
    I know Tailgunner comes in with his youthful fighting spirit.
    But he is right about one thing.
    You can’t win this at the ballot box or in THEIR courts.
    We are at war.


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  16. calli says:

    Is this too much for facebook friends?

    Put a rainbow flag on it and it will be just fine.


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  17. Roger says:

    How can you occupy a country fighting a COIN war for 20 years, knowing that one day you must leave, and not develop air strike capability in that nation’s air force?

    Provide over the horizon support?

    Right…with no bases in any of the six bordering countries that was never going to be a viable prospect in the long term, or even, it’s been proven, in the short term.

    Biden should be calling for state department and military heads on platters. Instead he’s gone on holiday.

    Let’s hope the folk in Canberra responsible for such things are factoring in US decline to their calculations on our long term strategic prospects.


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  18. Not Uh oh says:

    Odd that we haven’t seen any photos of Taliban forces occupying the US embassy in Kabul. That would have to be the ultimate humiliation. Coming soon no doubt.


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  19. mh says:

    Found it

    Ekka Show Day public holiday locked in for Friday, October 29.


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  20. FlyingPigs says:

    The Spengler – David P Goldman gives a reminder

    A Made-in-America Disaster
    By David P. Goldman Aug 15, 2021

    https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2021/08/15/a-made-in-america-disaster-n1469574

    Below I reprint a grim prediction of Islamist success published nearly twenty years ago in Asia Times. I have little to add to what I wrote in October 2001.

    America stumbled into the Global War on Terror with the delusion that the deployment of millions of American military personnel and the expenditure of trillions of dollars could transform fractious tribal societies into democracy. The result?

    The collapse of Kabul is the worst American humiliation since the fall of Saigon.

    Iraq has a sectarian Shi’ite government allied to Iran.

    The Sunnis we disenfranchised by destroying the Ba’ath Party of Iraq fell in large proportion to non-state Sunni actors, al-Qaeda and ISIS. Our attempt to co-opt the Sunni jihadists through Gen. Petraeus’s “Sunni Awakening” of 2009 and the CIA’s support for the Sunni opposition to Syria’s Assad government created an intractable, well-trained, global jihad movement. Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn warned in 2012.

    Our blundering in Syria drew in the Russians, who have returned to the Middle East as a key player, now joined by the Chinese.

    We wasted $5 trillion of treasure and lost tens of thousands of lives — including 60,000 military suicides prompted by the horrible futility of it all, as Erik Prince told Tucker Carlson last week. If we had spent a tenth of that money on a Moonshot-style drive to master frontier military technologies, we would not be struggling to catch up with China.

    Donald Trump had the right idea: Work with Russia to stabilize Syria, and get our people out. The foreign policy establishment tried to oust him for alleged “collusion” with Russia. Now the foreign policy establishment is back in power, and all they can do is turn tail and flee, leaving the Afghanis to the butchery of the Taliban.

    America had so much power thirty years ago after the collapse of the Soviet Union that no power in the world could take it away. We dumbed it away. In one generation we have gone from unprecedented strategic triumph to abject humiliation. We did this to ourselves. There’s no one else to blame. It’s time for a long, hard look at our foreign policy establishment, and a big broom to clean it out.
    ….


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  21. cohenite says:

    Lame pics included a photo from arguably John Wayne’s most enjoyable movie, The Quiet Man with one of its many pleasures being a character called Michaleen Oge Flynn who makes many great comments like an Irish chorus; one of them was: Well it’s a nice, soft night, so I think I’ll go and join me comrades and talk a little treason.

    A great movie.


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  22. H B Bear says:

    Love reading Mark Steyn when he gives them a spray. Thanks for the link.


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  23. rickw says:

    The UN are doing this to us.
    I know Tailgunner comes in with his youthful fighting spirit.
    But he is right about one thing.
    You can’t win this at the ballot box or in THEIR courts.
    We are at war.

    They are indeed Struth, the sole benefit is raising public awareness of the criminality.

    We have a significant problem at present because the public’s understanding of what is happening is very muddy. We need an action that helps clear the mud and clear their thinking. Many are a very long way down the understanding curve.

    Right now we are more likely to have a civil war than an overthrow of Government because so many people have no idea what is happening to them. They will side with Government because they don’t yet appreciate that Government is the real problem.


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  24. H B Bear says:

    How can you occupy a country fighting a COIN war for 20 years, knowing that one day you must leave, and not develop air strike capability in that nation’s air force?

    Provide over the horizon support?

    Allow the military to buy the latest technology and think you will fight it remotely from downtown DC.


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  25. Old bloke says:

    struth says:
    August 17, 2021 at 9:54 am

    Truck drivers will be able to get through to WA without a vaccination.
    If they do force truckies to take the jab, I reckon you WA people better stock up.
    Especially on powdered milk and the like.

    Last year, when bushfires near Norseman blocked the Eyre Highway for days on end, I noticed that tobacco products and fresh fruit and vegetables disappeared from the supermarket shelves. Maybe the “fresh food people” will have to source food from local producers instead of shipping it across the continent.


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  26. mh says:

    What will TaliDan announce today?
    Yesterday – no drinking.
    Today – no books?


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  27. Roger says:

    Allow the military to buy the latest technology and think you will fight it remotely from downtown DC.

    ————————–

    Vietnam was fought from DC.

    Air commanders on the ground couldn’t devise their own missions but had to await orders from Washington.

    The rot in Washington is now inter-generational and likely indelible.

    Every ally of the US should plan accordingly, because our enemies certainly will be.


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  28. rickw says:

    What will TaliDan announce today?
    Yesterday – no drinking.
    Today – no books?

    My money is on forced vaccination of either adults or children. They might do adults first to soften the blow. Parents will take radical action to protect their children.


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  29. cohenite says:

    The rot in Washington is now inter-generational and likely indelible.

    If Trump ever gets there again, mass executions has to be the first order of the day. These people are not only traitors, they are idiots as well.


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  30. incoherent rambler says:

    TaliDan should look at Afghanistan and note how quickly a state can fall from government control.


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  31. H B Bear says:

    Chairman Dan and Sneakers are in an arms race for the War on Covid. Look out.


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  32. Cardimona says:

    FMD…
    AM Agenda just now.
    A lass with a tan crying as she’s interviewed about the coof being much feared in remote aboriginal communities.
    It’s no surprise.
    In FNQ, Black Star Radio (FM) channels into the remote communities.
    Most of the ad breaks are government covid fearmongering – all professionally done in indigenous voices.
    Of course these poor buggers are scared.
    Of the flu.
    By design.
    There’s some true evil afoot.

    Thanks, Top Ended.
    They’re loading OK for firstborn in rural NSW, too.
    The outage seems to be a Qld thing – have any Qld Cats get News Corpse digital editions to load?


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  33. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    I doubt the Taliban will force vaccination. More likely they’d enforce non-vaccination. Paki has hold-out polio pockets especially in the NW Territories because local imams have been preaching that the polio vaccine is a conspiracy of infidels to cause muslim men to become infertile.


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  34. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Oops, I’m pwned! “TaliDan” not Taliban. I should read more carefully.


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  35. caveman says:

    Have they inadvertently got rid of the flu by going covid zero.


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  36. H B Bear says:

    … have been preaching that the polio vaccine is a conspiracy of infidels to cause muslim men to become infertile.

    Not unreasonable given some of the pronouncements from our CHO. Remember don’t catch the footy it might have Covid?


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  37. JC says:


    Bruce of Newcastle says:
    August 17, 2021 at 10:50 am
    I doubt the Taliban will force vaccination. More likely they’d enforce non-vaccination. Paki has hold-out polio pockets especially in the NW Territories because local imams have been preaching that the polio vaccine is a conspiracy of infidels to cause muslim men to become infertile.

    There’s a few imams and imamettes here, brucie. I didn’t know Makka was an imam though. Mufti Makka kind of has a ring to it.

    Just kidding Makkaroni


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  38. rosie says:

    I dunno about Facebook friends.

    Next time I’d go with a few facts though.

    Might make a refreshing change.


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  39. H B Bear says:

    I’d be more worried about the effects of ironed jeans on fecundity personally.


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  40. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    JC – I’ve not seen any sign of a Children of Men scenario. Although since Covid does infect testicles I’m not entirely comforted by that, just yet.


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  41. incoherent rambler says:

    JC that should be Muff Tea!
    Different subject entirely.


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  42. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    Struth, yes, I think it is. Summarise but add to the bottom that clip this Gab? put up yesterday. (I started to summarise, but I think I added more 🤪)!

    From the evidence unfolding daily, governments around the world, including our own, have lied to the people about the vaccines. They’ve said “Get vaccinated and be free.”

    We are finding that many people, thousands, in fact, have contracted serious side-effects and have been hospitalised with life changing events. In the USA alone, thousands of people have been killed by the vaccines and their deaths have been reported to the VAERS – vaccine adverse events reporting system.

    And then we see places like Israel and Iceland – two countries with very high vaccination rates – and high numbers of sick people – we will see large numbers of the “vaccinated” go down hard in the next ‘Flu season here?

    Maybe it’s because the bureaucrats keep saying, despite their new super power, things won’t change because even the fully vaccinated can contract the virus and pass it on. So we’ll need to continue the mask wearing, lockdowns and social distancing rules.

    The political class, along with business and the media constantly pushing people to get jabbed and/or encourage others – their friends/family to do likewise – the vaccinated are not just burdened with a life-changing medication they, themselves, are being weaponised to turn on their fellow citizens.

    So all these things are making what I like to call the “angryvaxxed” quite irritable as they realise they have been had and it could cost them their lives.

    They will lash out at all and sundry while never admitting they chose to make themselves part of a very large group of Darwin award winners.

    So they take it out on the non vaxxed and want to pressure us to have the jab! Something that government is egging them on to do.

    If you are going to force us you best do it quickly, while you are still alive and kicking.
    If you can’t do it in time, and the next sniffle sees your genetically modified spike proteins basically over react, at least you’ll know you sacrificed your life for the good of if pharma, Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab who will be all very happy.
    According to Bill there were 2 billion too many people on the planet anyway, he’s just saving it by killing you.

    https://www.reignitedemocracyaustralia.com.au/share-video/

    Or the 13 minute Reiner Fuillmich one:

    https://rumble.com/viaz9f-dr.-fuellmich-there-is-no-corona-pandemic-its-a-fraudulent-pcr-test-pandemi.html


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  43. H B Bear says:

    Facts can be elusive.

    It is helpful when others point them out for you.


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  44. ikamatua says:

    I would imagine if you make it difficult for the flu to reproduce for years on end, the eventual influenza that does emerge will have been trained to be more transmissible.
    And subsequently whip through populations which will have much reduced immunity to it, and with immune systems weirdly fucked about with by these spike protein producing systems.
    Sayonara, old fuckers.


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  45. rosie says:

    I find made up facts to be the best.


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  46. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    Steve, that Cossack is good value, thanks!


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  47. Terry Pedersen says:

    Nsw COVID as reported by Glad the Loudhailer, Keeper of the Iron Pyrite Standard, and Jeremy McAnulty at today’s 11 am presser:

    452 new cases. 447 in hospital (up by 66), 69 in ICU, 24 on ventilators, 1 death (total deaths now 113 from this outbreak).


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  48. incoherent rambler says:

    Let’s not hold out any false hope that Australians will awake.

    If there is to be a dawning, it will come from the USA. An we will follow along.


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  49. Boambee John says:

    Also posted on Dover’s Cat.

    The power of positive (or perhaps it was negative) feedback.

    Went out for our permitted exercise. Near the start of our walk, two council workers were erecting orange plastic barriers around a popular playground. By the time we got back, around 45 minutes later, they were taking it down.

    Possibly the workers were asked for the phone number of their boss, who received some free character readings?


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  50. FlyingPigs says:

    Roger says:
    August 17, 2021 at 10:23 am
    ….
    Let’s hope the folk in Canberra responsible for such things are factoring in US decline to their calculations on our long term strategic prospects.

    You mean the same people that are paying France for submarines that we will never need because of supply time delay.

    It will be all over by the time ‘someone’ gets them.

    They are already outdated and if and when delivered they should be sailed back and abandoned on the coasts of France.


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  51. ikamatua says:

    “(total deaths now 113 from this outbreak).

    ..
    Not nearly enough.
    We don’t get out of this until 70 – 80% of the old fucks die off.


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  52. ikamatua says:

    Carousel Now!


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  53. mh says:

    1 death
    ***
    Details, Grigsy.


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  54. Steve trickler says:

    Hello, BBS.

    You allowed back in the ocean?

    Grrrrr.


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  55. Boambee John says:

    Top Ender

    Simply monitor them and every time they get uppity hit them from the air.

    1920s/1930s RAF Air Control updated?


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  56. Franx says:

    I’ll say again as am in moderation.

    Particularly enlightening facts from Ferguson in that above Telegraph link saying that a ‘“large” wave could hit Britain come autumn come autumn when as many as 1000 people admitted to hospital each day.’

    Fear not facts from a renowned failed forecaster and unfailing for*icator.


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  57. Woolfe says:

    Great Struth, please spread this among the truckies. Do not cross the McClown border. You guys can stop this thing.


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  58. mh says:

    ‘His message was meant for his fellow Israelis, but it is a warning to the world. Israel has among the world’s highest levels of vaccination for COVID-19, with 78% of those 12 and older fully vaccinated, the vast majority with the Pfizer vaccine. Yet the country is now logging one of the world’s highest infection rates, with nearly 650 new cases daily per million people. More than half are in fully vaccinated people, underscoring the extraordinary transmissibility of the Delta variant and stoking concerns that the benefits of vaccination ebb over time.’

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta
    ***
    And then, following the inevitable booster shots, expect their immune systems to be shot to pieces.
    Israelis will be saying ‘Never again’.


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  59. Boambee John says:

    Terry Pedersen says:
    August 17, 2021 at 11:23 am
    Nsw COVID as reported by Glad the Loudhailer, Keeper of the Iron Pyrite Standard, and Jeremy McAnulty at today’s 11 am presser:

    452 new cases. 447 in hospital (up by 66), 69 in ICU, 24 on ventilators, 1 death (total deaths now 113 from this outbreak).

    I wonder how Perry the Very Tedious One manages to type with all that ejaculate on his keyboard.


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  60. a reader says:

    So what they’re saying in a disease that apparently takes a fortnight to breed and get over with, we still haven’t got more than one days worth of “Cases” in hospital


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  61. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    BJ,
    I was just thinking how, with so many cases every day in NSW, there are so few people in hospital. And on that, Hazzard said on The Daily Bulldust – 80% of cases don’t/won’t need to go to hospital. Sounds like we’re in the ‘flu season!


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  62. calli says:

    From Rosie’s Business Insider link:

    Iceland reported 2,847 new infections over the past month, mostly from the highly infectious Delta variant and mostly in fully vaccinated people, official statistics indicated. This is the highest number of new infections in a month since the start of the pandemic, but vaccines appear to be doing their job. The vast majority of new infections are mild at worst.

    Of the 1,239 Icelanders who were recorded as having COVID-19 on Sunday, 3% were in the hospital, data showed.

    In Australia, according to this the difference is 2.5%.

    There could be many reasons for this, including abundance of caution by our doctors, the effects if lockdowns, cultural differences.

    On the raw figures then, basically fully vaccinated = 3%, one-fifth vaccinated = 5.5%.


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  63. egg_ says:

    Terry Pedersen says:
    August 17, 2021 at 11:23 am
    Nsw COVID as reported by Glad the Loudhailer, Keeper of the Iron Pyrite Standard, and Jeremy McAnulty at today’s 11 am presser:

    ——————————-

    Has McAnulty replied to the Press enquiry from last Sunday morning as to what proportion of frontline medical workers are Frankenvaxxed?

    Does Grigs know?


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  64. The Beer Whisperer says:

    Am I still going into moderation for no apparent reason? I have no idea why this happened.


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  65. The Beer whisperer says:

    Apparently I’m still being moderated. What gives?


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  66. Eyrie says:

    “After Vietnam the US seemingly lost its appetite for a decent stoush for 15 years.
    Quo vadis Taiwan?”

    Quo vadis Australia?
    Time to figure out how to arm up. More Fighters and Strike aircraft, more MPA’s/anti shipping strike capability.
    Immediately plan on and build lots of on shore oil storage, build new refineries/remove old from mothballs. Every household to keep a semi automatic rifle in .223, .308, .338 or .50. Once a month shoots for all able bodied men and women. Cadre of sabotage and guerilla war experts.
    Let’s be porcupines. Expensive ones.


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  67. Dot says:

    113 deaths.

    Comorbidities?
    Ages?
    Underlying health issues?

    What would be the normal fatality count so far from respiratory disease in a normal year?


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  68. JMH says:

    Bar Beach Swimmer says:
    August 17, 2021 at 11:09 am
    *************************
    Top post, BBS. 100% in agreement.


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  69. Eyrie says:

    The Afghan Army actually had an air force with American trained pilots. Helos, A29, and AC208 (Cessna Caravan weaponised).


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  70. ikamatua says:

    “The Beer Whisperer says:
    August 17, 2021 at 12:09 pm
    Am I still going into moderation for no apparent reason? I have no idea why this happened.”
    ..
    It’s your face.


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  71. Boambee John says:

    Bar Beach Swimmer says:
    August 17, 2021 at 12:06 pm
    BJ,
    I was just thinking how, with so many cases every day in NSW, there are so few people in hospital. And on that, Hazzard said on The Daily Bulldust – 80% of cases don’t/won’t need to go to hospital. Sounds like we’re in the ‘flu season!

    Cases are a useless measure (other than for panic merchants). The only real measures are numbers needing medical treatments (most of which, HCQ, Ivermectin, etc, are banned), numbers in hospital (still not receiving any actual treatment other than liquids and Panadol), those in ICU, and those dead (without significant co-morbidities).


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  72. mh says:

    Video footage inside the arena

    DianneAusQ
    @patell_priya
    ·
    1h
    Wtf Australia vaxx hub
    3 teens collapsed afterwards…?.
    At Sydney west, huge vax hub at Olympic park
    either yesterday or this morning

    https://twitter.com/patell_priya/status/1427424186172010531?s=20


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  73. Bear Necessities says:

    Tip for the day:

    Don’t fly Biden Air.


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  74. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    On the raw figures then, basically fully vaccinated = 3%, one-fifth vaccinated = 5.5%.

    Always missing is the vaccinated vs prophylactic ivermectin comparison.

    Given the data we’ve been seeing use of ivermectin therapy alone could potentially give less than 3%.

    Then the second comparison you never see is vaccination side effects vs ivermectin side effects. I suspect that too would be very revealing.


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  75. egg_ says:

    113 deaths.

    ——————-

    SMS from NSW ‘Elf if visited the local Colesworths within the same ten minute window as a COVID positive to get tested and self isolate for 14 days

    Pig’s @rse!


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  76. mh says:

    Sutton saying over 10 million Covid deaths worldwide.

    Just go, moron.


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  77. Dot says:

    Nukes.

    Cheap, simple, effective.

    “Leave us alone.”


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  78. calli says:

    I thought it an interesting comparison, Bruce. You can never get the full picture from raw figures – so many factors they don’t take into account.

    Delta hit Iceland in Summer, here in Winter.
    Different racial/cultural cohorts which may reduce/exacerbate spread.
    Political expediency/nudging on hospital admissions

    Just a few.


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  79. Eyrie says:

    The trouble with just nukes is the low level harassment type of attack leading up to more serious actions but still not warranting a nuclear response.


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  80. Roger says:

    The Afghan Army actually had an air force with American trained pilots. Helos, A29, and AC208 (Cessna Caravan weaponised).

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    Good for light ops but hardly the strike force required to provide air support to troops on the ground in urban areas.

    The Americans left the ANA to be slaughtered.


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  81. rosie says:

    Iceland is now on ‘third wave’ very different to no wave Australia.

    Total deaths *30*

    Dropping like flies indeed.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iceland/


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  82. cohenite says:

    This is understatement:

    America cut and ran with panicked incoherence
    Peter Jennings The Australian August 17, 2021
    What is happening in Afghanistan is a tragedy for the millions of Afghans who believed the line that the Americans, NATO, Australia and others were there to protect them and give the country a chance at stability. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken is not being accurate when he claims the only purpose of military operations in Afghanistan was to find and punish the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks. For most of the past 20 years the aim was to stop the country from being taken over by the Taliban and becoming a training ground for terrorists.
    Two decades of investment to sustain that tenuous peace have been swept away. What conclusions should we draw from this debacle?
    First, Joe Biden has defined his presidency with the most disastrous American foreign policy decision since the 2003 invasion of Iraq. The only thing worse than a “forever war”, as Biden has called the Afghan conflict, is a “forever defeat”. Biden has delivered that.
    Biden could not have designed a more catastrophic withdrawal strategy. Let’s be clear: America cut and ran with as much panicked incoherence as Afghanistan’s poorly trained soldiers. There was no meaningful deliberation of an Afghanistan strategy inside the Biden administration.
    There was no negotiation with Washington’s partners, and no attempt to manage a handover to the Afghans, who were simply abandoned after a shameful “agreement for bringing peace” was cut between the Trump administration and the Taliban and subsequently endorsed by Biden.
    An obvious lesson for America’s allies is that none of the administration’s words, about America being back in the world and wanting to work with allies, can be taken at face value.
    Biden’s national security team are polished Ivy League technocrats. Do any of them have the grit to face up to the immense strategic pressures undermining America’s place as the world’s pre-eminent strategic power?
    Sky News host Catherine McGregor says in Afghanistan the state has “collapsed precipitously” and “sadly” that is outside the scope of a middle power like Australia to extract those allied personnel who are now at “some risk” from the Taliban.
    A few thousand grimy Taliban fighters with AK-47s and Toyota pick-ups outlasted American power in Afghanistan. We are now asked to believe a rout in Central Asia somehow better positions Washington to deal with the People’s Republic of China in the Indo-Pacific.
    The US urgently needs to rethink how it will defend its interest globally against China, which is rapidly gaining military parity and, in some cases, superiority.
    The US military, particularly the army and marines, emerged from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars a substantially broken force. The US retains immense air and sea power but in many cases the technology is old and ill suited to the speed and range of China’s missiles.
    The US needs to redesign its military to deal with its “near peer” adversary, Beijing. Moreover, this must be done at breakneck speed. Xi Jinping could well see a period of policy disarray in Washington and a US military system focused on evacuating people from Kabul as the right time for China to press its confected claims over Taiwan.
    Here’s an example of how the compounding disaster in Afghanistan affects Indo-Pacific security. To provide more air combat and missile capability over Afghanistan while US forces withdraw, the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan was moved from its Japanese port to the North Arabian Sea. For some time there was no US aircraft carrier battle group in the Pacific. This at a time when the level of PRC air and sea incursions into Taiwanese space is at an unprecedented high. The USS Carl Vinson has just arrived in Hawaii for exercising, but would take some time to get to north Asia in a crisis.
    The British aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth is currently in Guam along with a NATO strike group, but the British are not positioned to respond to a significant regional crisis. Relocating the Reagan was necessary to backstop Biden’s impulsive Afghanistan withdrawal and done at the price of temporarily weakening American and allied interests in the North Pacific.
    A key lesson from Afghanistan for America’s allies is we all need to strengthen our own defence capabilities. We cannot assume the US will just be over the horizon ready to defend our strategic interests. The US can raise very high barriers to its own involvement in regional security problems.
    This is a tough message for Australia, which has become habituated to think that defence spending at a little over 2 per cent of gross domestic product and a defence force about two-thirds the size of a Melbourne Cricket Ground crowd is enough to defend the country.
    A greater Australian defence effort is the best thing we can do to ensure the US stays committed to our security. We shouldn’t expect the US to be more interested in our defence than we are ­ourselves.
    It’s possible Biden would be prepared to commit the US to help defend Taiwan, but a country that’s capable of cutting a peace deal with the Taliban might conclude Taiwan isn’t worth the fight.
    Short of that scenario, Biden will look to Japan and Australia to be the security providers of first resort in Southeast Asia and the Pacific Islands. Canberra will have to do more heavy lifting than it typically likes doing and doesn’t want to pay for.
    Who wins from the Afghan debacle? Terrorist organisations of all stripes win. Al-Qa’ida and the so-called Islamic State will have access to their old training grounds. Russia wins because it relishes American discomfort.
    Beijing wins. Their foreign minister has already met with Taliban leaders. The PRC will be in Kabul before the end of the month with soft loans and hard power, with “smart cities” technology and “advisers” to help the Taliban consolidate control.
    Thanks to our shared efforts for two decades Kabul was stable, not Stockholm certainly, but not Mosul under the ISIS “caliphate”, either. Now the Afghans will be in a world of pain for years, not that many people care. America and its allies are diminished in hard and soft power. Xi and Vladimir Putin will be laughing at our collective stupidity.
    Peter Jennings is executive director of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute and a former deputy secretary for strategy in the Department of Defence.


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  83. Armadillo says:

    Do not cross the McClown border. You guys can stop this thing.
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    “Blockade the Border”. You only need a few brave men.


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  84. cohenite says:

    Look at this fucking shit:

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/newsaustralia/rugby-legend-toutai-kefu-out-of-surgery-after-burglary-at-his-brisbane-home/ar-AANlSPX?ocid=sf

    From the article:

    Superintendent Fleming said a knife and axe had been recovered, and detectives believed a machete was also used in the attack and that remained missing.

    “I can only imagine this will have a lasting effect on the family, given the trauma of what has happened,” he said.

    “We have no information to indicate that this is a targeted offence, it is believed this is a burglary gone wrong.”

    Superintendent Fleming said the two juveniles arrested were yet to be charged, but they were on bail and under curfew conditions, which were put in place within the last month after they were charged with other offences.

    One suspect, believed to be a juvenile male, remains on the run after he fled the scene in a vehicle stolen from a Forest Lake woman earlier on Monday.

    The vehicle, a silver Hyundai iX35 with the Queensland registration 435 VJP, was taken from a Flinders Crescent home.

    Kefu is about 20 stone and 3 urchins (place your bets about their ethnicity) carve him and his family up. The judiciary and upper echelons of the cops and the left pollies are the enemies of the people.


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  85. struth says:

    Can any of you believe anyone died “of” covid?
    Who The F, is telling you these things?
    The same criminals who tell you children don’t catch this cold for the first time in history.
    Children catch every bloody cold there is.
    Is it the same people who notafan gets her facts from (the MSM or the government).
    The same climate cultists and marxists in our health bureaucracies?
    YET, I go to Christian based news, from reputable sources that have been right from day dot.
    I’ve gone to AFLD etc.
    Those trying to get a message out that is getting blocked by left wing information suppressing “fact checkers”
    Here’s a tip.
    The people who won’t let free speech and argument be heard, is on who’s side.
    I’d as much believe the covid deaths are covid deaths as I’d believe in the Easter Bunny, but here we are with the right side of politics still arguing amongst itself, trying to work out if the propaganda is fake or real.
    FMD.
    The reality is, you now know you can’t trust the people imprisoning you to tell you the truth.
    Full stop.
    You know this.
    They keep lying so you keep trying to figure out if they are lying or not, instead of not listening anymore, uniting and working out how to rid them from power.

    If you aren’t quoting sources like the epoch times and a few others, tried and true right wing sites, you are most likely quoting complete bullshit.
    You can no more prove anyone has covid at all, than I can prove the existence of said bunny above.


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  86. calli says:

    Are there any underlying differences that would make Iceland’s death rate at 0.3% per case so low, compared to Australia’s 2.6%?

    Have they had lockdowns and mask mandates? Isolated from travellers like we have been? Cultural differences?

    Always curious to know why it’s so.


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  87. egg_ says:

    Just go, moron.

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    Roseclown?

    Why doesn’t she bugger off to the dicscord tards for good?


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  88. Top Ender says:

    Bob Dylan has denied sexually abusing a 12-year-old girl at his home more than 50 years ago.

    According to papers filed at the Manhattan supreme court, which identify the plaintiff only as “JC”, the musician, 80, allegedly gave the girl drugs and alcohol at his apartment in New York in 1965. He is accused of grooming the girl “as part of his plan to sexually molest and abuse” her. The case was first reported by the New York Post.

    “Bob Dylan, over a six-week period between April and May of 1965, befriended and established an emotional connection with the plaintiff,” the documents say. The suit alleges that Dylan — who was born Robert Allen Zimmerman — established the “connection” to “lower [JC’s] inhibitions with the object of sexually abusing her, which he did, coupled with the provision of drugs, alcohol and threats of physical violence, leaving her emotionally scarred and psychologically damaged to this day”.

    Dylan’s spokesman told USA Today that the “the 56-year-old claim is untrue and will be vigorously defended”.

    The papers were filed on Friday on behalf of JC, now 65, who lives in Greenwich, Connecticut.

    It is claimed that some of the incidents took place at Dylan’s residence at the Chelsea Hotel in New York. The suit claims that the impact of the alleged abuse has affected JC over several decades. It also says that she has sought treatment for depression and anxiety.

    The symptoms “are of a permanent and lasting nature and have incapacitated plaintiff from attending her regular activities”, the suit alleges. It adds that JC claims she was assaulted, and was also the victim of battery, false imprisonment and suffered emotional abuse at the hands of the singer. It includes a claim for unspecified damages.

    “The complaint speaks for itself,” Daniel Issacs, JC’s lawyer, said when contacted by the New York Post on Monday. Dylan’s representatives did not respond to the newspaper’s request for comment.

    “Dylan exploited his status as a musician by grooming JC to gain her trust and obtain control over her as part of his plan to sexually molest and abuse JC,” the suit continues.

    At the time that the alleged abuse was taking place, Bringing it All Back Home, his fifth album, was released. It topped the UK chart later that year.

    It was also the year that Dylan married his first wife, Sara. The couple, who went on to have four children, divorced in 1977. He married Carolyn Dennis in 1986. However, their marriage, the birth of their child, and their 1992 divorce were kept secret until 2001 when it was revealed in a biography by Howard Sounes.

    JC’s suit was filed under New York’s Child Victims Act, which temporarily scrapped the statute of limitations for people to file lawsuits alleging sexual abuse when they were minors.

    In recent years, Dylan has reduced the time he spends touring. In 2016, he was awarded the Nobel prize for literature, “for having created new poetic expressions within the great American song tradition”.

    The award drew criticism from literary circles, with anger only growing when Dylan declined to travel to Stockholm to pick it up in person, having waited two weeks before even acknowledging it.

    He was due to tour Japan in April, but the concerts were cancelled because of the pandemic.

    On his website last night (Monday), his new album, Springtime in New York, which is due out next month, was for sale.

    The Times


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  89. rosie says:

    Where do the dropping like flies facts come from st ruth?

    Don’t bother answering.

    Already know.


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  90. egg_ says:

    rosie says:
    August 17, 2021 at 12:36 pm
    Iceland is now on ‘third wave’ very different to no wave Australia.

    Total deaths *30*

    Dropping like flies indeed.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iceland/

    Thank you for your feedback. We will look into it.

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    Exorcise this clown.


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  91. rosie says:

    Aggravated burglary turns extremely nasty when the burglars are disturbed.

    I wonder if those responsible will do another session of ‘restorative justice’?


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  92. Roger says:

    The judiciary and upper echelons of the cops and the left pollies are the enemies of the people

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    The cops aren’t happy about it but they are at the mercy of the magistrates and under political directives to go soft on juvenile offenders of certain ethnicities. It will go on like this until someone gets killed. Looks like that was very nearly Kefu.


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  93. MatrixTransform says:

    My money is on forced vaccination of either adults or children.

    I just heard the Bat Eared Mong on air effectively saying they are coming for your kids.


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