Open Thread – Thursday 5 August 2021

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  1. sfw says:

    I’m almost out of here, I can see why Sinc gave it away, without massive moderation the site is just becoming more horrible every day. If the madmen who hate almost everybody can’t be got rid of then it’s just not worth my time to read comments. I’ll lurk for a few more days but I think it’s over, looks like there is no resurrection for the Cat, just a dead cat bounce.


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  2. cohenite says:

    Scomo is trying to resist the fucking alarmists:

    ‘No blank cheque’ on net zero carbon emissions target, Prime Minister says, as global ‘code red’ issued

    Bear in mind scomo has a majority of one with several alarmist wankers in his ranks plus possum man all of whom could cross the floor since, unlike the liars the LNP does not kill traitors and regards such traitors as being part of that idiot little johnnie’s broad church.

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/no-blank-cheque-on-net-zero-carbon-emissions-target-prime-minister-says-as-global-code-red-issued/ar-AAN86Wl?ocid=entnewsntp

    Naturally their abc and the turdball times are going beresk.


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  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    “Kev says:
    August 10, 2021 at 4:39 pm ”

    Good article on your website about the history of the “Jerry can.” Most interesting.


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  4. C.L. says:

    Authorities: Comply with our directions and we can ratchet back on the restrictions

    also authorities

    Your individual compliance makes no difference to our procedures and we will continue to treat you all as filthy, filthy proles.

    Still more authorities: Why are people not as compliant as we want and dont trust we are working in their best interests?

    We are ruled over by second rate mongs and “good germans”.

    Indeed, ‘mole, but the real point is that a great society with great people do not ban a mother from her cancer-stricken daughter whether the mother is “double-jabbed” or not. She doesn’t have the virus and she isn’t going to catch it from her daughter (and vice versa).


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  5. ikamatua says:

    “as global ‘code red’ issued”
    ..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psl7ZVwiRl4


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  6. struth says:

    Mick from the gold coast showing his true colours.
    He can’t work out who is locking him down.
    Another suspected of being a Globalist Liberal party hack, just about confirmed.
    Without principle and a coward.
    Full of hate.
    People like Mick are the real reason we are in lockdown.
    Can’t see the forest for the trees.


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  7. C.L. says:

    The White House has brought in a “Gen Z influencer” (whatever that is) to convince people to be ‘vaccinated.’

    The message: get ‘vaccinated’ and be a fag…

    This is real:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlZ4Riky6yQ&ab_channel=DylanNolan


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  8. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:

    Kev, is this fair dinkum?

    Training regimes at the Australian Defence Force Academy were adjusted. Instructors were forbidden to raise their voices at young cadets to protect their self-esteem. Crusty old drill sergeants were dispatched to re-education camps.
    Red marker pens were banned as it was deemed to be too aggressive a colour for marking papers.

    Male and female quarters were to include an ‘undecided’ section in each barrack block.

    (from the article at Kev’s link)


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  9. struth says:

    When a government thinks it should be influencing people, when indeed the reverse should be happening, we must remove that government.
    It is not our right, it is our duty.
    When a government forces it’s will by point of a gun on it’s own citizens, it is at war with it’s people and must be crushed.


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  10. rocinante says:

    Don’t know if this has been posted here yet – picked it up over at Discordant Cats posted by John of Mel. There is an article in the latest Spectator on an organisation comprised of Australian doctors – the Covid Medical Network. Website –

    covidmedicalnetwork.com

    Apparently if needed you can track down a doctor there who will prescribe Ivermectin for you, if you are looking for that. You will also find a link to the Great Barrington Declaration, signed by several thousand doctors and other health professionals. A must read for anybody not convinced that we are facing the worst pandemic evah.

    If people want to read the Spectator article but can’t find it, or get onto the discordant Cats site to get it, let me know and I will post a link in a separate comment.


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  11. ikamatua says:

    “Grigory M says:
    August 10, 2021 at 4:42 pm
    Census done – on line. Too easy. Truthful answers to all of the questions.”
    ..
    Do you count the hides, or only the ones in the well?


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  12. Chris says:

    “Eight Extinction Rebellion demonstrators have been arrested after they vandalised Parliament House and The Lodge, in protest against the Morrison government’s failure to act on climate change.⁠”

    I would be prepared to allow them to go extinct.


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  13. caveman says:

    Instinction rebellion don’t have to wear masks, I think got more freedom.


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  14. JC says:

    The message: get ‘vaccinated’ and be a fag…

    This is real:

    This is cause for a revolution. I’m honestly speechless.


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  15. thefrollickingmole says:

    Just thing about the strategy meeting that came up with hiring xir sperm bank to “inform” people of the jab.

    Leadermong: Certain groups, particularly the young blokes arent lining up for the coof jab, what can we do?

    Catamong: Lets hire a massive flaming faggott who is a mincing caricature of every straight guys nightmares and give xir massive access to the White house to be flamboyant in….

    I made a meme..
    https://imgflip.com/i/5j4kps


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  16. Kev says:

    Kev, is this fair dinkum?
    Mostly tongue in cheek but there exists a red card system that recruits can pull out if they feel abused (yelled at) Instructors are well advised to tone it down.
    It’s just as well I served last century.


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  17. mh says:

    Mick Gold Coast QLD says:
    August 10, 2021 at 3:29 pm
    ***
    Ok, boomer!


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  18. mh says:

    Grigory M says:
    August 10, 2021 at 4:42 pm
    Census done – on line. Too easy. Truthful answers to all of the questions.
    ***
    Your social credit system rating just went up 10 points.
    Congrats, Grigsy.
    You can now travel into zone two. But only for essential shopping.


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  19. Grigory M says:

    Eight Extinction Rebellion demonstrators have been arrested after they vandalised Parliament House and The Lodge, in protest against the Morrison government’s failure to act on climate change.

    Leaving them glued there overnight (at least) would have made sense.


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  20. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Census done – on line. Too easy.

    I thought about it and decided I like giving some temporary wukka a jerb, even if it’s just scanning the thing in. OTOH they may’ve roboticized all of it by now. Still, why waste a tree? And at least it gives Aust Post something to do, they seem not very busy these days. The postie delivered a healthy meals advert today, that’s about first thing in mail box for a fortnight.


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  21. JC says:

    mh

    Have you had your booster shot yet? The third you told us about.


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  22. Old School Conservative says:

    C.L. says:
    August 10, 2021 at 4:58 pm
    The White House has brought in a “Gen Z influencer” (whatever that is) to convince people to be ‘vaccinated.’
    This is real

    I’m having a really hard time believing that.


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  23. mh says:

    JC, can you get Moderna boosters?

    Anyway, back to work.


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  24. rocinante says:

    Kev says:
    August 10, 2021 at 5:11 pm

    Back in the days of the Vietnam war a group of newly inducted Nashos were in their third day at Pukupunyal and a Second Lieutenant was screaming at them. One of the new recruits broke down into sobbing tears.

    “What are you blubbering about, arsehole?” yelled the officer.
    “You treat us like shit, Sir,” cried the new recruit.
    “Like shit!” screamed the officer.
    “See that guy over there” barked the officer, pointing to a regular army grunt who was passing. “He is shit. How dare you compare yourself to shit.”

    True story.


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  25. JC says:

    Is that really the gools. Last time I spoke to the Gools was wishing him well in getting better after he announced he had brain tumor.

    Gools, you told us how you were suffering shocking head pain due to brain tumor and led all of us to believe there wasn’t much time to go. This was about 4 years ago and unless you’re transmitting here from beyond the grave (which is possible, but very, very unlikely) you’re still alive. How so?


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  26. Mak Siccar says:

    sfw says:
    August 10, 2021 at 4:46 pm
    I’m almost out of here.

    No. Hang in there. Ignore and don’t feed the pr1cks?

    As Baldrick (a poster back several years now) used to say …

    SCROLL THE TROLL!


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  27. Mark A says:

    sfw says:
    August 10, 2021 at 4:46 pm

    See what you mean, simple but nasty solution for the short term would be not to accept new email logins.
    For that of course would be necessary to keep data of existing emails, which does not seem to be a case.


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  28. Steve trickler says:

    Tony Heller posted this snippet last year. Gates talking bullshit on climate with the truth bomb at the end.2:48 His full TED talks are still up on sussietube .

    Notice today the prick smiles during interviews when talking covid on the MSM. He’s loving it. A pure human hating spawn of Satan.

    A vaxx to get the population down. His words.

    I thought those were meant to save lives?….oh wait.

    Bill Gates : Reduce World Population With New Vaccines


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  29. Runnybum says:

    Good afternoon GMO.


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  30. Old School Conservative says:

    First we had Our Glad downplaying the role of a free press yesterday by dismissing a reporter’s question with “Respect this Press Conference!”.
    Now we have HapHazzard saying he and the CHO are too busy to be bothered by irritating questioning.

    There have been fiery exchanges during a parliamentary inquiry examining the Coalition’s response to the Covid-19 lockdown, with Health Minister Brad Hazzard accusing the committee chair of politicising the crisis and preventing officials from attending to the pandemic.

    Mr Hazzard took aim at committee chair David Shoebridge, a Greens MP, as he probed a line of questioning surrounding the advice provided to Premier Gladys Berejiklian in relation to sending HSC students back to school.(The Oz)


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  31. JC says:

    I can’t fucking believe the Gools. ~ 4 years or so, he was complaining about terrible (continual) headache from a brain tumor, eliciting tons of good wishes and here he is either dead or alive. But most likely still alive.


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  32. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    David Shoebridge, a Greens MP, as he probed a line of questioning surrounding the advice provided to Premier Gladys Berejiklian in relation to sending HSC students back to school.

    Does Shoebridge want the kids back in school because he’s afraid the green indoctrination is wearing off? Or does he want them to stay home so they don’t learn anything and therefore become Green voters?


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  33. Carpe Jugulum says:

    Leaving them glued there overnight (at least) would have made sense.

    ******************************************************************

    No leaving them there after they have had plenty to drink and then been hosed down (every 2 hours), now that makes sense.


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  34. C.L. says:

    Thanks for coming to reality, Janet Albrechtsen…

    It’s high time zero-covid was binned. It’s been a nonsense from start. It’s been a curious experiment in how easily people are manipulated with fear by politicians, bureaucrats and the media, all of whom are sequestered from the worst of lockdowns.

    Mmyes, a “curious experiment.” Nothing more shocking than that.


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  35. Carpe Jugulum says:

    “Kev says:
    August 10, 2021 at 5:11 pm

    Kev, is this fair dinkum?
    Mostly tongue in cheek but there exists a red card system that recruits can pull out if they feel abused (yelled at) Instructors are well advised to tone it down.
    It’s just as well I served last century.”
    ________________________________________________________

    Sweet cheeses on a bicycle i hope you are kidding.

    The first words i heard on arrival at recruit school was “Get off that F*&king bus you pack of C**ts and get fell in one behind one twice”

    That’s when the penny dropped, you aren’t in school any more.

    Oddly enough it still a happy memory.


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  36. egg_ says:

    Census done – on line. Too easy. Truthful answers to all of the questions.

    —————————————–

    Q. How many skinsuits do you own?
    A. Depends on the season.


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  37. thefrollickingmole says:

    Another meme for the spinning inmincerator at the white house
    https://imgflip.com/i/5j4m78


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  38. calli says:

    Isolating the vulnerable – Curious Experiment
    Loss of income – Curious Experiment
    Business closures – Curious Experiment
    Denying treatment to the sick – Curious Experiment
    ADF patrolling the streets – Curious Experiment
    Mask mandates – Curious Experiment

    Thanks Janet. Can’t help but conclude:

    Janet Albrechtsen – Curious Experiment


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  39. miltonf says:

    Just another CINO


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  40. Indolent says:

    My state member, Gabrielle Upton, had the hide to send me another email, after basically ignoring the letter I sent her setting out my concerns. I wrote back to say that I would put the Liberals dead last on all future ballots for what they were doing to the state and the country and sent her a copy of abusive relationship flyer (which I’m distributing as widely as I can manage).

    I wonder if she’ll respond with more than polite trivia to that.


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  41. cohenite says:

    Credlin, on the new lie from the UN about man made global fucking warming (AGW); she understands the urgency to reduce CO2 emissions; FFS, there is no urgency, the IPCC is a commie run outfit whose declared intention is to destroy Western capitalism under the guise of solving AGW. Their latest bullshit says we are at a code red situation where AGW is going to destroy the world in 10 years. Here’s what the IPCC bastards said in 1989:

    U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked
    PETER JAMES SPIELMANN June 30, 1989

    UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

    Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP.

    He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/08/09/un-secretary-general-this-report-must-sound-a-death-knell-for-coal-and-fossil-fuels-before-they-destroy-our-planet/

    These bastards have been lying and bullshitting for over 30 years; nothing they predict has come true yet they are given a free pass by idiots like credlin and the rest of the fucking msm and nearly every pollie.


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  42. Boambee John says:

    I’ll believe that there is a CAGW “crisis” when the IPCC and the UN demand that Chynerr and India stop building new coal fired plants. Since both nations intend to continue, and the UN says nothing, there is no CAGW crisis.


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  43. thefrollickingmole says:

    cohenite

    Because the RINO typoe conservatives will insist we must ‘respect the institutions’ even if they are put in place by scum who want nothing more than to be the king of the dungheap.

    Look at the UN.
    A place of manifest corruption and regressive politics, lorded over by despots and dictators who are given s forum to pretend they as worthy of respect as civilized nations.

    Would the Liberal party ever pull out of it?

    Once a new “institution” is set up by the left the rights biggest issue is “oooh how can we fund this into perpetuity”..

    Useless cucks.


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  44. C.L. says:

    Monty’s blog is pretty good.

    He actually should have staked out the territory abandoned by Chris Shiel and Mark B et alia years ago.


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  45. miltonf says:

    Ok I concede St Ruth was correct re Credlin.


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  46. Indolent says:

    Must Watch: Dr. Dan Stock Delivers a Masterclass on the Real Science Behind Covid and Vaccines to the Mt. Vernon School Board –

    https://noqreport.com/2021/08/09/must-watch-dr-dan-stock-delivers-a-masterclass-on-the-real-science-behind-covid-and-vaccines-to-the-mt-vernon-school-board/

    Absolutely must watch. He gets pretty much all the information out in six and a half minutes as clear as a bell.


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  47. Speedbox says:

    C.L. says:
    August 10, 2021 at 6:25 pm

    From what I gather, it is not the blog that people object to but rather the owner/operator.

    Having said that, this blog needs some active moderation as the bird strikes are becoming tedious, not to mention offensive.


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  48. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Credlin, on the new lie from the UN about man made global fucking warming (AGW); she understands the urgency to reduce CO2 emissions

    If she “understands the urgency to reduce CO2 emissions” it means she’s rubber room material. Did she learn nothing as CoS to Abbott?

    There’s still nothing much happening. Like sea ice: Antarctica is well above average, but the Arctic is below average – exactly what you’d expect from the current phase of the 60 year AMO cycle. Which is at peak. But why is Antarctic high? That’s much more interesting than the Arctic which they always wail about.


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  49. Steve trickler says:

    F*cking Nazi’s!

    Excellent work from Polly the super sleuth. You’ll need 30 mins. No doubt it’s to long for flower girl.

    Eye opening.

    BOOM! VAX PASSPORT COMPANY’S HORRIFYING HISTORY


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  50. C.L. says:

    Credlin, on the new lie from the UN about man made global fucking warming (AGW); she understands the urgency to reduce CO2 emissions

    —————

    I’ve been pointing out over the past week or so that Sky is now curating a new vibe pursuant to which the usual red meat comes with a soft-woke ‘message.’ They are trying to bring the right along to the ‘safety’ of the ‘centre.’


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  51. C.L. says:

    Having said that, this blog needs some active moderation as the bird strikes are becoming tedious, not to mention offensive.
    —————————-

    I think people here conflate the Open Forum with ‘the blog.’

    That may one of the reasons Catallaxy died.


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  52. cohenite says:

    I don’t know why but I really like this:

    https://media.tenor.co/images/054dcc8349df6df3d327892ff4665169/tenor.gif

    I really wish people would stop griping; the new blog is going as good as you could expect. Bird is like a dose of diarrhea but Adam seems to be getting on top of the lunatic. Sure we miss the single topic threads but early days. The fat turd alternative is not on because he is a leftie and simply can’t be trusted. There is simply no other place where you can vent constructively; those whose nerves are compromised should still stick around and continue to be offended as I gather being offended is one of the emotional highlights of being alive.


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  53. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    I’m watching the vid that Steve T put up this arvo. Dr Peter Mccullough being interviewed on Odysee 4/4/21.

    At around the 14 minute mark he begins discussing the number of deaths in the USA reported to VAERS – the adverse reaction reporting system.

    He said that as of now the CDC has verified that 11,000 Americans have died after having the vaccine and that in the last two weeks a Federal Lawsuit has been filed in which the number of deaths following the vaccine is determined to be 45,000. (VAERS is a self-report system, the records of which are usually reported by doctors and nurses because along with other information is needed the batch number of the vaccine that was administered. Dr Mccullough goes on to say that the CDC calls the submitter of each VAERS report to confirm, which means that these numbers have been verified).

    According to Mccullough, analysis of the data shows that 86% of the time there is no other cause of death – these people, he said, walked in to have the vaccine and 50% died with 48 hours and 80% died within a week.

    He said there have been 30,000 hospitalisations and 2800 cases of myocarditis.

    Then he says that there has been no transparency and the only thing people are hearing is “take the shot.”

    The journalist doing the interview said that she used to work for Fox and, back in April, 3000 people had died up to that time according to the CDC. But her boss told her not to report it. She said that she left Fox because there was an avoidance of putting out any facts that might undermine promotion of the vaccine. To which Mccullough replied that is called Entrusted News Initiative and that back in December the BBC announced that it was going to do everything to promote getting the vaccine and squash vaccine hesitancy, which means squashing anything on early treatment, anything on vaccine safety etc.

    He then said the only variation to this program of pushing the vaccine across news outlets was on Fox – Tucker Carlson in particular. Though Carlson was in favour of vaccination he was concerned about the safety aspects of the vaccines, Mccullough said.

    Those numbers should give people pause for thought.


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  54. Indolent says:

    Transcript of Dr. Dan Stock’s presentation –

    TRANSCRIPT – courtesy of Jane Long:

    Begin transcript

    “To adress your comment, ‘Gee , it’s hard to believe we’re 18 months into this and still having a problem, I would suggest the reason we still have a problem is because we’re doing things that are not useful and we’re getting our sources of information from the Indiana State Board of Health an the CDC, who actually don’t bother to read science before they do this.

    I’m a Functional Family Medicine physician, that means I am specially trained in immunology and inflammation regulation, and everything being recommended by the CDC and the State Board of Health is actually contrary to all the rules of science.

    So the things you should know about coronaviruses and all other respiratory viruses is they’re spread by aerosol particles which are small enough to go through every mask. By the way, the literature that supports all of that is in a flash drive we’ve presented to you. It’s been given to the secretary.

    As a matter of fact, it quotes at least 3 studies sponsored by the NIH to that exact fact, even though the CDC and NIH have chosen to ignore the very science that they paid to have done.

    That is why you keep struggling with this because you cannot make these viruses go away. The natural history of all respiratory viruses is that they circulate all year long, waiting for the immune system to get sick through the winter, or become deranged, as has happened recently with these vaccines, and then they cause symptomatic disease.

    Because they cannot be filtered out, and because they have animal reservoirs, and this is a very important point, no one can make this virus go away.

    The CDC has managed to convince everybody that we can handle this like we did smallpox, where we could make a virus go away. Smallpox had no animal reservoirs; the only thing it learned to infect was humans. That’s why we were able to make that virus go away.

    That will not happen with this, any more than it will with influenza, the common cold, respiratory syncytial virus, adnoviral respiratory syndromes, or any thing else that has animal reservoires.

    So the reason you can’t do this is because you’re trying to do something that’s already been tried and can’t be done.

    Equally important, is that vaccination changes none of this, especially with this vaccine, and I would hope this Board would start asking itself, before it starts taking the advice of the CDC, the NIH, and the State Board of Health, why we’re doing things about this that we didn’t do for the common cold, influenza or respiratory syncytial virus, and then ask yourself, ‘Why is a vaccine that is supposedly so effective, having a breakout in the middle of the summer, when respiratory viral syndromes don’t do that?’

    And to help you understand that you need to know the condition that is called, Antibody Mediated Viral Enhancement. That is a condition done when vaccines work wrong, as they did in every coronavirus study done in animals, on coronaviruses after the SARS outbreak, and done in respiratory syncytial virus, where a vaccine used in a vulnerable individual, done the wrong way, which it can not be done right for a respiratory virus which has a very low pathogenecity rate, causes the immune system to actually fight the virus wrong, and let the virus become worse than it would with native infection.

    And that is why you’re seeing an outbreak right now, in fact in that flash drive you’re going to have coming to you in the emails with six extra [transcript missing a few words here]showing that 75% of people who had Covid 19 positive, symptom cases in Barnstable Massachusetts outbreak, were fully vaccinated.

    [audience applause]

    Therefore, there is no reason for treating any person vaccinated, any differently than any person unvaccinated. You should also know that no vaccine, even the ones that I support and would give to myself and my children, ever stops infection.

    In 2014 there was an outbreak of Mumps in the National Hockey League. The only people that came down with symptoms were the people who were unvaccinated or unknown vaccine status. Boy that sounds like a great argument for vaccines.

    But a question you should ask yourself, knowing that half of the people who came down with symptomatic disease had no contact with an unvaccinated or unknown vaccine status individual, ‘Where did they get the disease?’

    And the answer was, ‘From the vaccinated individuals.’

    No vaccine prevents you from getting infection. You get infected. You shed pathogens. This is especially true of viral respiratory pathogens. You just don’t get symptomatic from it.

    So you cannot stop spread, you cannot make any of these numbers you’ve planned on get any better by doing any of the things you’re doing, because that is the nature of viral respiratory pathogens.

    And you can’t prevent it with a vaccine because they don’t do the very thing you’re wanting them to do, and you will be chasing this the remainder of your life until you recognize that the Center for Disease Control, and the Indiana State Board of Health, are giving you very bad scientific guidance , and instead, read the articles that are coming on the email and that are on this flash drive, and listen to the people in this audience tonight, who’ve actually recognized that the advice they are getting from the CDC and the NIH is counter factual, and that’s why you’re still fighting this with this vaccine that supposedly was going to make all of this go away , but has suddenly managed to make an outbreak of Covid-19 develop in the middle of the summer, when Vitamin D levels are at their highest.

    By the way, the other thing that would be necessary for any vaccine restriction be considered is if there were no other treatment available. And I can tell you having treated over 15 Covid-19 patients, that between active loading with Vitamin D, Ivermectin and Zinc, that there is not a single person who has come anywhere near the hospital, and we already have studies that show that if you achieve a 25-Hydroxy Vitamin D level greater than 55, your risk of Covid-19 death will drop down to one quarter of the population average for the United States.

    And there are active treatment trials included on that flash drive that will show the same is true.

    So if you’re going to discriminate based upon vaccine you should also discriminate based on 25-Hydroxy Vitamin D level, Zinc Taste Test Response, and probably previous infection, since there are also studies on that flash drive that show that people who have recovered from Covid-19 infection actually get no benefit from vaccination at all, no reduction in symptoms, no reduction in hospitalization, and suffer 2 to 4 times the rate of side-effects if they are subsequently vaccinated.

    Therefore the policies you’re basing on are totally counter-factual. I don’t blame this board for that ‘cause you are not scientists and you’ve thought it was reasonable to listen the CDC, NIH, and the Indiana State Board of Health, but I would encourage that instead you listen to the people out here in this audience and read what’s on that data drive. And if anybody here on this Board has any questions about anything on that, I will happily come back and sit with you individually if you would like, to explain the science behind this.

    And if you’re worried about being sued by somebody because you don’t follow the guidance of the CDC and the NIH, I will tell you, you have a free pro bono expert testimony at your disposal.

    [audience applause]

    I will testify in defence of this Board turning down all these recommendations, for free, at any time, at any court. Thank you.
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    “waiting for the immune system to get sick through the winter, or become deranged”
    DERANGED, from the vaccines.


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  55. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    They are trying to bring the right along to the ‘safety’ of the ‘centre.’

    Never works. Fox is the same. The righties just wander off and take their eyeballs with them, and then the newly wet Sky/Fox/etc has no friends at all. We saw this with GB News when their guy knelt to BLM. Rare that a network manages exactly zero audience, but they achieved it the next week. Nice lesson! Farage has since built back the audience by behaving like a rightie.

    That’s the point about the right: it’s based on objective truth. You depart from the objective truth and the followers of said truth will then depart from you.


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  56. JC says:

    STFU, Cronkite.

    If we need your opinion you’ll be asked, otherwise you have rates to apportion.

    Remind me again.. 360, 364, 0r 365? Also what happens in a leap year?


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  57. rosie says:

    Does the doctor do a comparison to background death and hospitalisation rates or is all presumable that correlation is causation?
    Btw
    One of things not often discussed is that most people had not heard of VAERS before the covid epidemic, now most people have.


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  58. calli says:

    I think people here conflate the Open Forum with ‘the blog.’

    That may one of the reasons Catallaxy died.

    Yes, C.L. The OT is a chat room with links to the news. Entertaining, natch.

    I would like to see some nice, meaty posts from the clever ones here. I may not comment, but I will definitely read.


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  59. Makka says:

    “Those numbers should give people pause for thought.”

    If that was a car part causing that level of human fatality , the vehicle would have been recalled months ago.


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  60. rosie says:

    Another expert claims only three people have been confirmed to have died from the vaccine in the Us

    https://covid-101.org/science/how-many-people-have-died-from-the-vaccine-in-the-u-s/


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  61. Grigory M says:

    you’re still alive. How so?

    No cancer, JC – I never said I had it – you must have me confused with someone else. As I reminded you all on 12 May 2019 on the former Catallaxy I took early retirement in July 2018 – said so at the time.


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  62. cohenite says:

    STFU, Cronkite.

    Be more specific head prefect; I’m so eclectic in my comments you need to specify which of my brilliant utterances upsets you.


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  63. Top Ender says:

    The blog is going along well. The Open Thread may have bird strikes but early days.

    Adam is to be commended for getting the vehicle up and running and on the road. I expect it will eventually get add ons. I personally would like flashing lights and a siren and onboard machineguns but that’s a personal thing.


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  64. rocinante says:

    Anybody else noticed that the online version of the ABC news has quietly been running articles for the past couple of weeks on the desirability of a Universal Basic Income (UBI)?

    A UBI is a central plank of Klaus Schwab and the WEF’s “Great Reset”, where you will own nothing and you will be happy.


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  65. Makka says:

    17 July.

    Hunt goes off script with ivermectin
    Health minister endorses doctors’ right to treat Covid

    REBECCA WEISSER

    ‘The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary’, observed H.L. Mencken.

    The latest hobgoblin to be wheeled out in Australia’s endless Covid horror movie is a wheezy young waif in a hospital bed. The ad, authorised by the federal government, is the latest instalment in the relentless campaign of Project Fear to terrorise people into huddling in their homes until they can be vaccinated.

    If the ad was subject to the rules governing commercial businesses, the government might be prosecuted for misleading consumers. A study from Oxford University has shown that severe Covid in young people is largely explained by obesity and Covid deaths are overwhelmingly in the elderly. The only people to die since the NSW lockdown began are a man in his 70s and a woman in her 90s.

    That hasn’t daunted NSW’s chief health officer Kerry Chant who made a point of saying, very slowly, that at least one teen and a couple of people in their 20s and 30s were in intensive care while being cagey about disclosing any co-morbidities.

    Doctors prescribing ivermectin have formed the Covid Medical Network and can be contacted via their website
    Ramping up the fear factor Premier Gladys Berejiklian warned people not to browse in supermarket aisles or go shopping for inessential items such as shoes but has so far failed to demonstrate how irrelevant they are by turning up to a press conference unshod.

    Yet for epidemiologist Tony Blakely it wasn’t enough. He said there were only three options; to let the virus rip, resulting in thousands of deaths and health services overwhelmed, the current ‘soft’ lockdown which he said would drag on for months, or a hard lockdown enforced by the military and a shutdown of all lingerie shops. Presumably, those resisting arrest in aisle six or discovered with a newly purchased pair of pumps and panties could be shot on sight.

    Overlooked by almost everyone is the possibility that the pandemic could end with an effective treatment. If there were an outbreak of plague (which still exists in parts of the US and Africa) would the Australian government lock down the country because there’s no vaccine? Let’s hope not since there’s a perfectly effective antibiotic to treat the Black Death. When HIV emerged in the 1980s, there was no vaccine to prevent it. There still isn’t. Yet Aids-related deaths have been reduced by over 60 per cent, thanks largely to effective treatment.

    The first essential element in responding to any pandemic is not a vaccine, which does nothing for people already infected, it is treatment. Indeed, an effective treatment reduces the circulation of a virus reducing the chances of mutations and makes a mass vaccination program safer and more effective.

    It is to Australia’s credit that one of the most effective treatments was identified at Monash University along with the Doherty Institute which showed that ivermectin kills the Sars-CoV-2 virus within 48 hours. Yet to our national shame, the researchers have been starved of resources and the discovery ignored.

    Not so in Indonesia where an enterprising philanthropist, Haryoseno, leapt into action and made ivermectin available to the masses for free or at low cost. As a result, Indonesia has had an extremely low Covid mortality rate. That is until the Ministry of Health decided, in line with the WHO’s recommendation, that ivermectin would only be used in a clinical trial. Haryoseno has been threatened with a fine and a ten-year jail sentence and the supply of ivermectin has dried up. Result? Deaths per million have increased five-fold since withdrawal of ivermectin on 12 June.

    In Australia, one of the few doctors brave enough to use the drug to treat patients and save lives, Dr Mark Hobart, was reported to the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency (AHPRA). Thankfully, AHPRA advised that there had been no infringement. Indeed, federal Health Minister Greg Hunt wrote to one of the doctors in Australia who prescribes ivermectin confirming that he was aware that some physicians are prescribing ivermectin off-label for Covid and that they were quite within their rights as the practice of prescribing registered medicines outside of their approved indications is not regulated or controlled by the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA), it is at the discretion of the prescribing physician. Yet the silence persists. Ivermectin is the drug that dare not speak its name.

    Some doctors prescribing ivermectin are members of the Covid Medical Network. They can be contacted via their website and provide prescriptions for prophylaxis and treatment anywhere in the country (covidmedicalnetwork.com). Many follow the protocol established by world-renowned researcher Dr Thomas Borody who, largely at his own expense, has run a trial of an ivermectin triple therapy which has shown a reduction in mortality of 86 per cent in patients who were seriously ill with Covid. The only patients who died in the study – which has been published on preprint server medRxiv – were those that declined treatment.

    Demonstrating the complete lack of urgency with which it treats repurposed drugs, the TGA last updated its advice on ivermectin on 1 June. It claims that there is currently insufficient evidence to support its safe and effective use. Yet since 1 June results of 15 new trials and meta-analyses of ivermectin have been published almost all showing steep declines in mortality. The question that the TGA has to answer is how is it possible to approve an experimental gene therapy vaccine with plummeting efficacy, significant short-term safety signals and unknown longterm side effects and yet not recommend a drug with an outstanding safety profile, which is supported by Nobel laureates and multiple randomised controlled trials?

    On Wednesday, when Premier Berejiklian decided to lock down Greater Sydney for another two weeks only 24 people who had tested positive were in the community. In order to bring that to zero the lockdown is estimated to cost about $16 billion. Sydney’s new Northern Beaches hospital only cost about $2 billion. Covid has cost the Australian economy $311 billion or in our new Covid currency 156 hospitals.

    It probably not a coincidence that it is NSW Treasurer Dominic Perrottet and federal Treasurer Josh Frydenberg who have suggested we to learn to live with the virus. Yet we don’t have to sacrifice lives or bankrupt the country. We only have to use an Australian treatment that will one day be recognised as the greatest medical discovery since penicillin.


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  66. cohenite says:

    Adam is to be commended for getting the vehicle up and running and on the road. I expect it will eventually get add ons. I personally would like flashing lights and a siren and onboard machineguns but that’s a personal thing.

    Pretty actresses from the 1920s and guns plus nice houses are my preference.


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  67. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    “I personally would like flashing lights and a siren and onboard machineguns but that’s a personal thing.”

    Twin on board machine guns, at least.


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  68. Steve trickler says:

    It is official, Rosie is a fuckwit.

    “Health Feedback” Really.

    How about you keep us up to date on the TV guides.

    That site is owned by Funded by / Ownership Health Feedback is owned and published by Science Feedback, which is a not-for-profit organization verifying the credibility of influential claims and media coverage that claims to be scientific, starting with the topics of climate and health. Revenue is derived through donations

    ——-

    Science Feedback Partners, Funders & Donors.

    Check this out

    Flower girl is f*cking usless. As useful as tits on a bull.


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  69. It’s Remarkable says:

    Dear Oh Dear…
    Bolt reckons there are 49 studies that prove that the masks work against the virus .

    What has happened to the once sensible people on Sky. Credlin is even worse..

    Reckon they have been got at and told the toe a certain line?

    Not really much worth watching anywhere these days.


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  70. rocinante says:

    California Screaming says:
    August 10, 2021 at 7:18 pm

    Your motives by now are seriously open to question. I think you are trying to get people killed.
    ——————————————-
    Don’t sweat it, CS.
    “Rosie”, aka Notafan, was one of those named as one of the “Gang of Four” by Cassie of Sydney, who got the original Cat closed down at the end of April last year. The four of them – Nota, Leigh Lowe, Knuckles and NIck then spent the next year blaming Ellie for the lockout.

    This was particularly offensive to me as they had already bullied Ellie off the blog over a week before. In other words they were blaming her, in her absence, for something they themselves caused while she was absent.

    Nonetheless they did a good job. To this day most Cats think it was Ellie who got the place shut down. And people wonder why she has trouble dealing with her emotional problems. With “friends” like that who the hell needs enemies?


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  71. JMH says:

    It’s Remarkable says:
    August 10, 2021 at 7:30 pm
    Dear Oh Dear…
    Bolt reckons there are 49 studies that prove that the masks work against the virus .

    What has happened to the once sensible people on Sky. Credlin is even worse..

    Reckon they have been got at and told the toe a certain line?

    Not really much worth watching anywhere these days.
    ____________________

    Tried to hang in there with Bolt tonight. Turned off after that ridiculous comment.

    I think you are correct. Sky has been ‘told’. No such thing as a free press in this shit stain of a country any more.


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  72. Goanna says:

    A UBI is a central plank of Klaus Schwab and the WEF’s “Great Reset”, where you will own nothing and you will be happy.

    ___________________
    Tobacco will have currency.


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  73. Eyrie says:

    “The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires vaccination providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). When these reports are received, doctors from CDC and FDA review death certificates, autopsies, and medical records to understand what happened with each person.”

    I understand VAERS is voluntary. That was the first lie. No need to bother with the rest.
    You are an idiot, notaclue.


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  74. Steve trickler says:

    Bar Beach Swimmer says:
    August 10, 2021 at 6:50 pm

    Excellent summary I do say. Is that from memory or do you take notes? Either way, great stuff.

    Cheers.


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  75. Eyrie says:

    “Having said that, this blog needs some active moderation as the bird strikes are becoming tedious, not to mention offensive.

    At least he got Lizzie to piss off. Thank christ.


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  76. Ruprecht says:

    Lol rocinante, you must have missed the massive fight between Arky and Egg. That is what got the blog shut for a week over a year ago. So, what was it again that got the blog shut down for good ?


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  77. Roger says:

    The question that the TGA has to answer is how is it possible to approve an experimental gene therapy vaccine with plummeting efficacy, significant short-term safety signals and unknown longterm side effects and yet not recommend a drug with an outstanding safety profile, which is supported by Nobel laureates and multiple randomised controlled trials?

    ———————————-

    Follow the money.


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  78. Rabz says:

    ALPBC news has quietly been running articles for the past couple of weeks on the desirability of a Universal Basic Income (UBI)

    Faulty, they’ve been incessantly pushing a UBI for years. Check out these search results:

    https://tinyurl.com/jtjac3v3


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  79. Gilas says:

    It seems last night’s clusterfuck has burnt itself out. Didn’t see the smote-ing, if any.
    Socks are asleep at the moment, except for California Screaming.
    All good.


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  80. calli says:

    rocinante says:
    August 10, 2021 at 7:36 pm

    Not true. I was there and watched the lot. We have been over this before.

    They were teasing Lizzie about something or other to do with scented candles and mercy visits to family. It went on for a few days. The words Lese Majesté seemed to be the touch paper.

    The blog was shut down for another reason. An endless, no holds barred fight between two commenters that got out of hand. First the OT, then other threads as the fight continued into the virtual carpark.

    Eventually Sinc had had enough and closed the entire site for about four days. Cold turkey seemed to cool some tempers, so it worked.

    What Ellie had to do with it is a mystery. Her problems were a thing apart, some of us made suggestions that she seek help. The poor woman appeared to be very distressed over the past.

    Naturally, now the old blog is inaccessible, you just have to take my word for it, as far as it goes.


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  81. srr says:

    Queer Trees and Racist Rocks

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5EZez92E0o

    Aug 10, 2021

    The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters


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  82. C.L. says:

    Another expert claims only three people have been confirmed to have died from the vaccine in the US
    ———————-
    LOL.


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  83. calli says:

    It still amazes me about what offends people to the point of lunacy.

    Alcohol may have been involved. 😺


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  84. srr says:

    CANCELLING AMERICA: Can the Constitution Survive Vaccination Passports?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eujcwzEhM9I&t=2s

    Premiered 8 hours ago
    TheRemnantVideo

    CANCELLING AMERICA: Can the Constitution Survive Vaccination Passports?
    “Am I the Only One” – RTV music video: https://youtu.be/1VQZBnaM4BU

    Michael Matt has a very important question for you: If you could be shown that a particular COVID vaccine was perfectly safe and did not use aborted fetal tissue, would you be in favor of the government making it mandatory?

    In this episode of the Editor’s Desk, Michael J. Matt discusses strategy with a particular emphasis on building the largest possible coalition of resistance. He points out that some of the strongest opposition to vaccination passports comes from those who are not anti-vax per se – e.g., Gov. Ron DeSantis, Senator Rand Paul, Tucker Carlson—but who nevertheless recognize this as an unprecedented attack on U.S. sovereignty.

    What’s really behind the vax pass, other than a Globalist attack on the Constitution of the United States of America? While it is important to discuss the safety of the vaccines, it is also true that the vast majority of Americans oppose mandatory vaccines and certainly a globally-enforced vaccination passport.

    Finally, Michael argues in favor of the power of patriotism to undermine and defeat a Globalist cabal that has no respect for God, family or country, and thus has no future.
    By the way, don’t miss hilarious footage of your President jogging around the White House Lawn… for no apparent reason.


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  85. miltonf says:

    I don’t watch TV so I haven’t seen any of these dishonest adds coming out of the PR of West Queanbeyan. I have seen shitty adds posted up around time urging us all to accept the frankenvax.


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  86. Gilas says:

    Was Bird smoted this afternoon?
    He’s over at Nilk’s ATM, still alive, it seems.


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  87. politichix says:

    Pierre Kory‘demoralised and frightened’

    Looks like early treatment is the go. Stock up on ivermectin folks!


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  88. miltonf says:

    No perky tits, top notch law degrees and work horse Audis thank the Lord.


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  89. calli says:

    Two iterations, Gilas. He’s running multiple identities.

    Hopefully they don’t start arguing with each other.


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  90. Professor Higgins says:

    Ruprecht.
    I’ve been reading the Discordant sites.
    It would seem that Ellie was something of a bat-shit crazy type, and it appears has been in this state for many years.


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  91. rosie says:

    Have you any evidence to back up your assertions about me MV?

    You’re a liar and an idiot.

    You initially had IT in your idiotic gang of four. I made zero comments to Ellie at that time, and very rarely any other time she appeared.

    Where are all the ‘screenshots’ you creepy old sad sack blog wrecker.


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  92. Roger says:

    Faulty, they’ve been incessantly pushing a UBI for years.

    —————————-

    It’s right up there with insect derived protein for ABC types.


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  93. rocinante says:

    Ruprecht aka Professor Higgins aka Leigh Lowe aka abacab aka Geoff Lawrie aka Izen –

    Just remember LL, that I backed up the entire site back to the beginning of 2017. I understand a static copy of it is also available. Anybody who wants can go and check the truth of the matter.

    You and the rest of Cassie’s aptly named “Gang of Four” got the Cat closed down. The four of you then spent a year blaming it on Ellie. You only changed tactic a couple of months ago when it became obvious she was out of the picture, and you invented an entirely new set of villains.

    But heck, folks don’t need to delve that far. You were posting as LL at Discordant Cats only yesterday or the day before, blaming Ellie for it.

    You have reached the point where you have lied so often about so many checkable things under so many false names, that you would be a joke if not for the fact that the four of you have caused serious harm to someone I happen to care deeply about.


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  94. rosie says:

    My point CL is that there is a medical expert for everyone.

    I doubt the number is as low as three but the apparent failure to take into account the fact that in such a huge cohort a percentage would have died unexpected anyhow should give people pause.


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  95. Professor Higgins says:

    Eyrie says:

    August 10, 2021 at 7:44 pm

    “Having said that, this blog needs some active moderation as the bird strikes are becoming tedious, not to mention offensive.

    At least he got Lizzie to piss off. Thank christ.

    So you’d take Bird over Lizzie?


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  96. rosie says:

    Now everyone must know MV is lying.

    *got the blog closed down*

    Delusional.


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  97. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Was Bird smoted this afternoon?

    I counted three of him today. And I know a little bit about handling multiple birdies. I wish he’d use his persistence and inventiveness for something useful.


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  98. Gilas says:

    calli says:
    August 10, 2021 at 7:57 pm

    Two iterations, Gilas. He’s running multiple identities.
    =======================
    Yes, he was still active after the smote this morning.
    See no residua here, I must have missed the second event.


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