Open Thread – Saturday, 18 June 2022

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  1. NoFixedAddress says:

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  2. Mak Siccar says:

    Worth a read.

    If it’s not bad enough that Australians have had their retail habits monitored via the (ethically questionable) government Vaccine Passport system, or that Silicon Valley apps hide their stalking habits in the fine print – an investigation has alleged that Kmart, Bunnings, and The Good Guys are using facial recognition on customers without their knowledge or consent.

    While yes, Kmart, Bunnings, and The Good Guys have signs up at the front of their stores telling customers that this practice is being performed, it is akin to the fine print on phone contracts where consumers are not realistically being informed (nor do they require active consent before entering), especially given the value and private nature of what is being used.

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  3. Ragu says:

    Noticed that new feature the other day in Big wuh and woolworths. Instinctively moved out of shot and put my hand over the camera. Bunch of low life jerks

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  4. Ragu says:

    Assange is one step closer to being a permanent resident of the USA.

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  5. mh says:

    I might grab a free hard copy of the Oz to read this one:

    Costello blasts Reserve Bank’s ‘failure’ to rein in inflation

    Former treasurer Peter Costello says the Reserve Bank “completely missed” the surge in inflation, heightening the risk of a recession with its worst monetary policy failure in three decades.

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  6. mh says:

    Also at the Paywallian:


    Worst hit to superannuation since the GFC
    Workers face losses on their super funds for only the fifth time in three decades, as the market sheds $270bn since June 7 rate hike.


    Not those who switched to cash at the start of 2022.

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  7. Shy Ted says:

    Interesting article from the NT Independent with this line –

    And then there were the 1400 health staff who resigned in nine months to March 31

    1400 in 9 months! In my time up there I just thought NT Health was a massive employer of unemployable people with a few essentials thrown into the mix and the essentials I worked with were almost all absolutely excellent. Would be interesting to see who refused the jab.

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  8. Black Ball says:

    Dead tree version of the Hun:

    ‘World swimming will be the first international sporting organisation to vote on banning transgender athletes from elite competition.
    In the wake of an outcry from Australia’s pool stars, the International Swimming Federation (FINA) will confront one of the biggest issues in a decision that could change top level sport forever.’

    A couple of things. Whilst the vote is to be applauded, why did FINA, which I imagine covers every swimming competition under the sun, allow Will Thomas to compete against the young collegiate women in the United States?
    And for the stars here, did their ‘outcry’ finally force FINA’s hand? Find that claim to be laughable at best, considering Thomas and his work has been a talking point for months.

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  9. Steve trickler says:

    Kudos to the bloke have saved the kittens at 16:53. He thinks he was saving one and then…meow meow meow meow meow meow meow. What would you do? Drive away and leave them. If I did that it would haunt me for the rest of my life.

    I have no kind words for the prick who dumped them.

    Watching the two sisters and brother at 16:13.😀


    Fleccas Talks:


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  10. Black Ball says:

    No doubt it will adorn his mantelpiece:

    ‘It’s a long way since January. Tennis Australia chief executive Craig Tiley was star of the show at Thursday’s Road To Pride event.
    After being booed at the Australian open for the Novak Djokovic saga and dodging media, Tiley was in his element at the Osborne Rooftop.
    The event was postponed due to the omicron outbreak in January.
    Tiley was warmly received after recently winning the Pride In Sport executive of the year award.
    A panel on the night featured Carlton’s Darcy Vescio, Australian gymnast Dominic Clarke and athlete Hannah Mouncey.’

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  11. Steve trickler says:

    Tony Heller:

    This #PrideMonth, Audubon partnered with drag queen and intersectional environmentalist Pattie Gonia to bring you #BirdsTellUs: The Song of the Meadowlark, a message of hope for the future of our planet as we face climate change—if we choose to listen:

    Audubon Society Offers A Solution To Climate Change

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  12. Steve trickler says:

    Keep in mind this channel is shadowed banned.


    Tony Heller:

    “Extraordinary Global Heating In The Arctic”

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  13. kaysee kaysee says:

    Project Veritas

    #TwitterAllHands with Elon Musk

    Leaked Video of Elon Musk’s Address to Twitter Employees About ‘Essential’ Nature of Free Speech, Voting Republican, and ‘Evolving’ Twitter


    The full video:
    FULL CALL: Twitter All Hands with Elon Musk 6/16/22

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  14. kaysee kaysee says:

    How evil can they get? FDA approves the vaxx for children from the age of 6 months. And parents will be lining up for these dangerous shots.

    Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine Receives FDA Emergency Use Authorization
    for Children 6 Months through 4 Years of Age

    “Tens of millions of older children across the globe have already been vaccinated with our COVID-19 vaccine, helping to prevent symptomatic, severe disease and hospitalization. We know many parents in the U.S. have been eagerly awaiting an authorized vaccine for their children under 5 and we are proud to now offer them a vaccine option with a favorable safety profile,” said Albert Bourla, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Pfizer.


    from Dr Pierre Kory

    They’re fast rolling out 10 million vaccines for U.S toddlers. There is NO science to support this. NONE. Parents, protect your babies from this Pharma campaign. I am begging you. I don’t want more patients, am drowning in the care of vax-injured as it is.

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  15. kaysee kaysee says:

    Matt Walsh’s interview (with a tranny ???)

    Truth is transphobic

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  16. Interested observer says:

    With my compliments

    Former treasurer Peter Costello says the Reserve Bank “completely missed” the surge in inflation, heightening the risk of a recession with its worst monetary policy failure in three decades.

    The Future Fund chairman’s intervention comes as Jim Chalmers finalises the structure and terms of reference for an independent review of the RBA, the first since the 1980s.

    The review is expected to concentrate mainly on the future, avoiding investigating past controversies such as poor inflation forecasting and the abandonment of an RBA policy last October to hold medium-term bonds at an ultra-low interest rate.


    Lord Howe Island, a hiker’s paradise
    While the leader of the review is yet to be finalised, the Treasurer is considered likely to appoint an outsider to ensure the review’s independence. One potential candidate understood to have been discussed is Paul Tucker, a former deputy governor of the Bank of England. An appointment of Sir Paul’s calibre could address concerns that the review could be dominated by the RBA and Treasury, which is represented on the board by departmental secretary Steven Kennedy.

    But RBA director Ian Harper, who stressed he was speaking in a personal capacity and not as an RBA representative, defended the central bank’s policy record, saying it was aligned with the responses of peer institutions.

    “Those people who say we should have been faster on the way down (with the cash rate) are the same people who now want us to be faster on the way up,” Mr Harper said. “These things are a matter of judgment, remembering that the pandemic was going to cause the biggest downturn since the Great Depression.

    READ MORE:Costello dashes hopes for smooth RBA review
    “The markets clearly have a view, market economists have a view and the RBA has a view – people should observe that these views are not always the same.”

    Mr Costello said he had believed as far back as the March quarter that inflation was an emerging problem, unlike a lot of the “Johnny-come-latelies” who only recently became RBA critics.

    “The RBA completely missed the takeoff point in the March quarter and now it’s behind the curve,” he told The Weekend Australian in an interview.

    “Its primary duty is to manage the (2-3 per cent) inflation target and it failed in that duty.

    “It’s the worst failure in monetary policy since the 1990s, and the consequences are that the RBA now has to raise interest rates faster and further than would otherwise be the case.”

    The risk of a recession, he said, was therefore higher.

    While monetary policy was ultimately the preserve of the RBA, Mr Costello said that, as Treasurer, he would have tried to persuade the central bank that its inflation outlook was wrong.

    But ultimately the policy decision was for the RBA.

    Global central banks in recent months have been desperately pulling the rates lever to try and put the inflation genie back in the bottle. Just this week, the US Federal Reserve increased rates by 75 basis points to a target range of 1.5 per cent to 1.75 per cent – the biggest increase since 1994.

    Fed Reserve chairman Jerome Powell said the next moves were expected to be 75 basis points or 50 basis points, with the former less common.

    Overnight on Thursday, the Bank of England hiked by 25 basis points to 1.25 per cent – the highest level since 2009, with the BoE forecasting that inflation would surge to 11 per cent.

    The RBA surprised the market last week by lifting the cash rate 50 basis points to 0.85 per cent.

    It was the first such increase since February 2000, as RBA governor Phil Lowe upgraded the inflation forecast to seven per cent by the end of the year. “That’s a very high number, and we need to be able to chart a course back to 2-3 per cent inflation,” Dr Lowe told the ABC on Monday. “I’m confident that we can do that but it’s going to take time.”

    On the cash rate’s likely peak, Dr Lowe said it was reasonable to think that the rate would get to 2.5 per cent “at some point”, because the midpoint of the RBA’s inflation target was 2.5 per cent.

    This would equate to a real interest rate of zero, which was very low in historical terms.

    Former RBA director Warwick McKibbin was more specific, saying the cash rate was likely to top out at about 4.5 per cent.

    “It’s not a precise science, because it depends on what’s happening with productivity growth and actual inflation,” Professor McKibbin said. “But that’s what you’d be thinking about as a midpoint, and it’s what I’d be using in terms of a plan for next year. So 2.5 per cent could be after you’ve gone through 3.5 per cent or 4 per cent – (Dr Lowe) didn’t say that but he didn’t not say it either.”

    In contrast to Mr Costello, former RBA governor Bernie Fraser’s assessment was that the RBA “is on the job”.

    The 75 basis-point increase in the cash rate in two months demonstrated that the central bank was “starting to reinforce its credibility as an inflation-fighter”.

    Mr Fraser said the more aggressive approach of the Fed was tailored for the US environment, where inflation was a bigger problem. “The precise timing of changes in policy rates will vary according to circumstances, so one central bank going a month or two earlier than another is not such a big issue,” he said.

    The ex-governor was critical, however, of Dr Lowe’s now-discarded forecast that the cash rate would not be lifted until 2024. “Noone can forecast that far ahead – it was an unnecessary risk to take and potentially damaging because it could have encouraged people to borrow more,” he said.

    Mr Costello argued strongly that the RBA’s performance in combating inflation had to be at the forefront of any review, particularly its preoccupation with wages growth when its mandate was to control inflation.

    “So why did it go wrong and what should we do to ensure it won’t happen again?” the former treasurer said on Friday.

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  17. kaysee kaysee says:

    This #PrideMonth, Audubon partnered with drag queen and intersectional environmentalist Pattie Gonia to bring you #BirdsTellUs: The Song of the Meadowlark, a message of hope for the future of our planet as we face climate change—if we choose to listen:

    For the past few weeks, there has been this ad/promo on the radio reminding us about National Tree Day. The person speaking in the ad sounds like a kiddie just out of her cradle and barely able to pronounce the words “Planet Ark”.

    She has already been brainwashed by her Planet Arking parents and is being used to entice more kiddies into saving the globe.

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  18. kaysee kaysee says:

    The gift of sight

    The reaction of the little girl who saw the world for the first time as a result of an organ transplant…💕❤️

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  19. kaysee kaysee says:

    Going back in time.

    Sunday May 24 2009
    Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation

    SOME of America’s leading billionaires have met secretly to consider how their wealth could be used to slow the growth of the world’s population and speed up improvements in health and education.

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  20. Delta A says:

    The gift of sight

    Thanks, kaysee.

    I suspect everyone has a teary moment watching these precious children seeing and hearing for the first time. And what about their wonderful families!

    Makes me grateful for God’s mercies for me and my family.

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  21. kaysee kaysee says:

    I suspect everyone has a teary moment watching these precious children seeing and hearing for the first time.

    I had.

    It is a reminder to be grateful for the many gifts we take for granted.

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  22. kaysee kaysee says:

    School assignment

    Australia… Year 7 school assignment which asks students to make a Boucher [Brochure] about COVID-19. To include compulsory vaccination, offshore quarantine, border closures, penalties for protesters and travel bans…

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  23. mh says:

    Interested observer says:
    June 18, 2022 at 3:24 pm

    Not a lot of encouragement there.
    The RBA review will be Keynesians investigating Keynesians.
    As the economic disaster unfolds, Jim Chalmers will say repeatedly ‘That’s why I called for a review’.

    Mr Costello said he had believed as far back as the March quarter that inflation was an emerging problem, unlike a lot of the “Johnny-come-latelies” who only recently became RBA critics.

    So Costello worked out three months ago that there could be an inflation problem.

    h/t Clint.

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  24. kaysee kaysee says:


    Photo shopping

    to remove an Ex from the photo


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  25. Shy Ted says:

    I think Connery was the best Bond. He has a grandson who hasn’t inherited the unmovable hair. The name’sh Bond, Jane Bond
    It’s Satdy night and I was only looking for WIP for some absurdities, but

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  26. Arky says:

    Bunnings is born again alright by me.
    After years of mostly Chinese made shite on offer, Sidchrome and Stanley tools on the shelves there are now mainly Taiwan in origin.
    I picked up a Taiwanese made Sidchrome socket set for $99 last week to complement the Japanese Ko-ken.
    A lot, I mean A LOT of Made in the USA tools now available too.
    Bought a new claw hammer, square and other bits and pieces with prominent Made in USA stickers from the local Bunnings.
    The hard thing is power tools. All the 18 volt battery crap seems to just be different coloured brandings from the same China mega factories, the traditional branding just the Cheshire Cat smile remaining, to fool old geezers that some continuity remains, the last thing to fade away.
    I’m getting around that by buying second hand shite from Cash Converters, old 240 volt tools with cords, often good quality European or Jap made.
    Looking at generators, there were these:

    Which are made in Illinois.
    If our Lords and Masters could get their brains wrapped around the energy security side of the equation we might even be on the right track.

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  27. Arky says:

    These guys make a good effort to remain neutral, apolitical, whatever you think of the “science” of body language, their take is interesting:
    Hunter Biden, The Behaviour Panel…

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  28. mh says:

    Bitcoin dropped below the $20,000 mark on Saturday, extending a brutal slide in cryptocurrencies.

    The price of bitcoin fell 9% in 24 hours to $19,217.81, according to Coin Metrics data. The last time bitcoin fell below that level was December 2020.

    Ether, the second-largest token, plunged 10% to $997.75, its lowest level since January 2021.

    Crypto investors are grappling with aggressive interest rate hikes from the U.S. Federal Reserve and a worsening liquidity crunch that has pushed major players into financial difficulty.

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  29. Steve trickler says:

    Austin vs MSFS.

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  30. Black Ball says:

    If you’re still awake, do not make the error of clicking on ‘Serena v The Umpire’. Details her meltdown against Osaka in the final of the US Open. To listen to the American commentators defend her is just rage inducing.

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  31. mh says:

    Vladimir Putin jokes ‘They even named their inflation after me’

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  32. mh says:

    Black Ball, you might enjoy the last night of Royal Ascot.

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  33. mh says:

    Latest podcast

    In the Interests of the People

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  34. mh says:

    US President Joe Biden falls off bike during the beach ride, says ‘I’m good’ | English News | WION

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  35. kaysee kaysee says:

    Bill Maher

    New Rule: Democracy Dies in Dumbness

    Postscript from PowerLine

    Memo to Maher: Look, dude, we appreciate that beating up on wokism has become one of your most prominent themes these days, but if you really want it to end, you know what you have to do: vote Republican. It’s the only way the left will learn anything. Look, if Elon Musk can do it, you can too!

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  36. Steve trickler says:

    I read that Julie has passed.


    The Beauty of:

    Created by David Lynch & Mark Frost

    Director of photography : Frank Byers, Peter Deming & Ronald Víctor García

    Song : Julee Cruise – Falling

    The Beauty Of Twin Peaks

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  38. kaysee kaysee says:

    Matt Walsh on the Dr Phil show

    Poor Dr Phil.
    He thinks there is a middle ground between Truth and Delusion.

    Or he is afraid of speaking the truth and getting cancelled.

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  39. kaysee kaysee says:


    Pope says weapons manufacturers can’t call themselves Christian

    People who manufacture weapons or invest in weapons industries are hypocrites if they call themselves Christian, Pope Francis said on Sunday.

    Well ……

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  40. mh says:

    Amazing shots! Get a jockey’s view of NATURE STRIP powering clear at Royal Ascot!

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  41. kaysee kaysee says:

    On the other hand, we do have Catholic bishops.

    Bishop says school cannot be called Catholic anymore over its refusal to take down LGBTQ and BLM flags

    A bishop issued a decree saying that a school in Worcester, Massachusetts, can no longer bear the name Catholic because of its refusal to take down a Black Lives Matter flag and an LGBTQ pride flag.

    News report

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  42. Steve trickler says:

    That is a lot of work; it is expected with this bloke.


    Fresh Lamb with Vegetables Fried in my new tandoor! A simple and healthy recipe

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  43. Steve trickler says:

    mh says:
    June 19, 2022 at 3:24 pm

    Amazing shots! Get a jockey’s view of NATURE STRIP powering clear at Royal Ascot!

    100% respect for jockeys. If you are at the back and fall off…no problem. Fall off at the front and the potential to get mangled is huge.

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  44. Steve trickler says:

    The Black Stallion:

    The Black Stallion

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  45. kaysee kaysee says:

    Any difference between lefty Gladys, lefty Dom, lefty Labor?

    While people are struggling with the cost of living, the NSW government has a spare 25 million for some virtue-signalling.

    Aboriginal flag will fly permanently on top of the Sydney Harbour Bridge by year’s end

    New South Wales Premier Dominic Perrottet says the Aboriginal flag will be a permanent fixture on the Sydney Harbour Bridge by the end of the year – coming in at a cost of $25 million to install.

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  46. kaysee kaysee says:

    This weekend’s truth package from Neil Oliver:

    Covid has been used to green light the revolution
    those in power had in mind

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  47. Ragu says:

    2 hours of Brett Weinstein with Geert vanden Bossche

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  48. Timothy Neilson says:

    People who manufacture weapons or invest in weapons industries are hypocrites if they call themselves Christian, Pope Francis said on Sunday.

    Luke 22:36 Then Jesus said unto them,…he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.

    Wait till Pope Francis hears about this! The Pope’s sure going to rip this “Jesus” guy a new one!

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  49. Fat Tony says:

    Wait till Pope Francis hears about this! The Pope’s sure going to rip this “Jesus” guy a new one!

    He probably will – I don’t think he knows about this Jesus guy…

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  50. Steve trickler says:


    California is shutting down their coal and nuclear power, while purchasing coal fired electricity from out of state. The California government is counting on their residents being well behaved useful idiots.

    California Carbon Laundering

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  51. Steve trickler says:

    Forum wars!


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  52. Fat Tony says:

    Forum wars!

    Is that one more than threeum and one less than fiveum?

    Some of the b/s that goes on in other Forums (Fora?) is really annoying – any substance that may have been in the topic is replaced by abuse.

    I don’t need to log on to a Forum to get that – it’s freely available at home.

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  53. Steve trickler says:

    Fat Tony says:
    June 19, 2022 at 10:46 pm

    We are amongst a few.

    Cheers Adam.

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  54. Ragu says:

    Boomers Behaving Badly.

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  55. Ragu says:

    Remember back when I was saying immune complexes were poison for the kidney, well, here is one of a few

    Eight out of the 17 patients (47.1%) developed acute kidney injury. Two patients with acute TIN had to start hemodialysis that was discontinued after 1 and 2 months, respectively, due to the recovery of renal function. All patients underwent treatment with corticosteroids and/or immunosuppressants

    But its all cool

    However, this report should not lead to vaccine hesitation during this pandemic as the benefits of vaccination strongly outweigh the potential risks.

    All reports I’ve read include that last bit.

    Ve must not disparge ze vaxxine!

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  56. Ragu says:

    Or stupid people begging for more

    In conclusion, COVID-19 vaccine acceptance was high among our patients with active glomerulonephritis. Future campaigns for booster vaccines can build upon the aspects that positively influenced their vaccine acceptance

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  57. calli says:

    Boomers Behaving Badly.

    Is there any other sort?

    In other news, FINA has decided that men can’t compete in women’s sport. I expect other organisations to follow suit.

    So it’s not all doom and gloom – something positive for a change.

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  58. Ragu says:

    Anyhoo. If people are taking fish oil then considering taking a regular aspirin to convert the PUFAs into resolvins to alleviate inflammation and promote phagocytosis

    DHA is a substrate for cyclooxygenases (COXs) and lipoxygenases (LOXs), being enzymatically oxidized to mono-, di-, and tri-hydroxyDHA (HDHAs), oxidized to epoxides, oxidized to oxo-DHA metabolites, or oxidized to neuroprostanes, among other compound families. HDHAs include the specialized pro-resolving mediators (SPMs) or docosanoids, comprising D-series resolvins (RvD), protectins (PD), and maresins (MaRs) (Figure 2), which are available at sites of acute inflammation, acting in a specific tissue [23], and potent lipid mediators, with benefits of the prevention and treatment of several diseases. HDHAs have shown benefits of neuroprotection, benefits against the risks of cardiovascular diseases, and anti-tumour properties, among others [24].

    Statins also work, which could the mechanism behind statin mediated recovery from the dreaded long covid. Acetaminophen also enables conversion of omega-3’s to resolvins

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  59. Ragu says:

    Oh, Ibuprofen blocks synthesis of the aforementioned

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  60. Ragu says:

    In other news, FINA has decided that men can’t compete in women’s sport. I expect other organisations to follow suit.

    Topology matters

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  61. calli says:

    I had to look that up, Ragu. Seamless shapeshifting. A bit like an Escher drawing.

    Without being aware of it, I follow Eulerian paths all the time when I’m stitching.

    At least FINA has worked out what a woman actually is. I presume with the help of a biologist. 🙂

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  62. mh says:

    The Age

    Mince on the menu as grocery costs, mortgage payments bite

    “People will still eat, they will drink, but everything will just tighten up a bit. They may not buy the steaks, they may buy mince meat.”


    I buy premium organic beef mince.
    Am I still the underclass?

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  63. Steve trickler says:

    Tony Heller:

    Three days ago the press reported that New Mexico is having an unprecedented megadrought. Today New Mexico is flooding.

    New Mexico Megadrought

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  64. Steve trickler says:

    Tony Heller:

    In 1989, the UN said we only had ten years to save the planet from global warming. In 2006, Al Gore said we only had ten years to save the planet from global warming. Now Michael Mann says we only ten years to save the planet from global warming.

    Beware Of False Prophets (Part Two)

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  65. Steve trickler says:

    Pay close attention.


    There are no words…

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  66. mh says:

    UAP candidate Ralph Babet claims final Victorian Senate seat

    Clive Palmer’s United Australia Party has claimed its only seat in the upper or lower houses of federal parliament, with Ralph Babet claiming the sixth and final Senate seat in Victoria.

    Well done to Ralph, and all the swarthies of Dandenong where there was a high UAP vote.

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  67. Ragu says:

    Not at first. Then I took it off 1.5x speed. I think I heard it in a cab once. At 03h00

    Well done to Ralph, and all the swarthies of Dandenong where there was a high UAP vote.

    Did you get a good ROI from that, mh?

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  68. mh says:


    Clive’s return on investment?

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  69. Ragu says:

    Didn’t you have a wager going on that result?

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  70. mh says:

    That’s right Ragu.

    I’ve just checked my Sportsbet account and there is now $30 sitting there. 🍾

    Only a fun bet for election night as the voting system is insanely complex. That has taken a month for the AEC to get a result.

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  71. mh says:

    As for Clive’s investment, if Ralph Babet is a freedom fighter
    I think $100 million is still worth it.

    Clive loses those amounts down the back of the couch.

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  72. Steve trickler says:

    Remember, this channel is shadow banned. If you don’t know about him, sussietube will do their best to make sure those that don’t, never discover him.


    Tony Heller:

    Extreme Heating

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  73. mh says:

    Kim Iversen: Piss-Poor Ukraine War Reporting INSULTS American’s Intelligence

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