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Open Thread – Saturday, 12 November 2022
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There are many global topics that have been discussed in recent years. Some of them – wokeism related – have a consensus among Conservatives. The past few years have added more issues. These have turned into heated debates that have seen fractures and fissures opening up in Conservative groups on forums, blogs and sites.
Right now, I see four layers of major issues, with reference to conservatives.
Layer 1: Global Warming hoax
I think most conservatives would be in agreement with that.
Layer 2: Covid
This one starts the split. Those who knew from the start that it was fiction vs those who thought it was a dangerous virus.
Those who knew that the jabs were not safe vs those who thought they needed it to be protected from the deadly virus
As more details emerged, some of the Covid-hoax believers realised they were being duped and moved over to the side of the “conspiracy theorists”.
Some, of course, fervently continue to trust the government and MSM and their owners – the Big Pharma companies. The vaxx is safe and good.
Layer 3: The Ukraine War
Here it gets deep. Some of those who clearly did not fall for the Warming and Covid hoaxes embraced the narrative on this one. Including adding the flag emoji on their social media bios.
Putin/Russia bad. Zelensky/Ukraine good.
It’s all Russia’s fault. Ukraine is the innocent party.
Layer 4: MAGA Trump
An even deeper issue.
If you don’t unconditionally support Trump, you are supporting the Dems. If you are not pro-Trump despite what he says and does, then you are pro-the Establishment.
Not so simple.
This is a developing chasm and may split Conservatives right down the middle. Unless we look at the inflow from all sides, keep an eye out for the facts, examine them and then decide.
Stay tuned.
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There seems to be a great deal of rejoicing in the MAGAGA-land with Trump’s announcement for 2024. I am not an American so I do not have a vote. What I think won’t make a difference to the election results in two years.
As I said in my comment yesterday, what happens in the US matters here. There is plenty to read to educate oneself and broaden one’s horizons.
So I will share with readers on this blog, informative articles and links that I come across in my investigations. As well as my ruminations, opinions and rants.
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Peanuts
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Dennis
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More renewables Mr Sulu!
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Family circus
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Bob
Counterpoint
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Bob!
LMFAO
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Craig Foster has officially taken over from Pirate Pete as head of the ARM. Same talking points, different head. I hear he’s commenting at the World Cup. Go to it, Qataris, give him something to talk about.
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And to go with the Bob toon, Candace Owens on Zelensky
https://youtu.be/BYSEHFe5P-8?t=708
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American Thinker
Viewing DeSantis Versus Trump Through The 2022 Election Filter
Read the article. It is a great assessment of the current situation facing Conservative voters in the US.
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America Needs Donald Trump – But Not Like This
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My black mark against DeSantis is his ad before the election. I called it over presumptuous when I saw it. It borders on blasphemy, and as a Christian he shouldn’t have approved that sort of sales pitch.
Since nobody is perfect, he’ll have other negative points.
Meanwhile ….
(mh posted the video version of this, earlier today.)
Ron DeSantis Responds to Question About Trump:
‘Incoming Fire’ Is ‘Just the Nature’ of the Job
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Newt Gingrich speaking on Fox News tearing strips off of Mitch McConnell.
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Here’s Jacinda with Klaus Schwab.
Which of the top 20 nations does Klaus represent?
Zelensky was also invited, since when has his corruptocracy been one of the world’s largest economies? It’s a failed state, only beaten by Thailand for perverted visitors who want sex with minors.
I can imagine Xi, Lavrov, Modi and Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud sitting at a shared table looking on at these western leaders and wondering if they are all crazy as well as corrupt.
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He controls many governments, including ours.
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WARSAW, Nov 16 (Reuters) – U.S. President Joe Biden told allies that a missile that killed two people in Poland was a Ukrainian air defence missile, a NATO source said on Wednesday.
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Here’s a minute of it
“We Must Restructure The World”: Klaus Schwab G20 Speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQjXODh0TOg
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Poland copped some friendly fire.
Ukraine learning from the best!
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Will De Santis wear the red MAGA cap at a rally if MAGA is the people’s creation and not Trump’s?
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Elon Musk admits firing Ligma & Johnson was one of his biggest mistakes & has welcomed them back to Twitter.
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Trump could learn from Elon.
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mh says:
November 17, 2022 at 12:03 am
mh, it’s spoof, they never worked there
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Am I the only one having trouble logging onto Dover’s site?
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Our betters
Can I remind you that Ligma & Johnson are not real people. It’s just a parody of lick my johnson. Or in English, sock my dock. All is not what it seems.
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Believe all wymmins
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Bad jokes or true stories?
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The world’s richest man is just fvcking around online posting dick jokes?
There’s a lesson there.
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Some TDS detected, but not bad
Trump toon
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AHPRA lying it’ arse off. Well done Senator Antic.
In summary, 10,000+ notifications!!!!!!, 1303 actual complaints about health workers being honest about Convid & the vax, a total of 1006 HWs. Gets interesting at about 6 mins.
Fuck, I hate these bastards. There was a time when we just paid our money to the Nurses Board and just got on with our jobs. Since AHPRA came along, there have been incremental changes, restrictions, guidelines, mandates and so on about your “qualifications” to practice. From fluvax mandates, to a ridiculous Cultural Awareness course you weren’t allowed to fail (the black armband and “it was a land of milk and honey til white man came along” view) to mandatory competencies of no relevance to your area of practice to forced further education, to forced acceptance of the narrative and more. I wrote a complaint to them once, about them and was fobbed off with this type of bureaucratic reply. It gave me a very interesting career working in the places most people wouldn’t consider and I lost count of the number of registered health practitioners who were in that position only by virtue of their minority status and nothing would be tolerated that challenged that preferred status.
AHPRA now only seems to be challenging clinicians and while I’m a bit confused by the numbers – flyingduk on the other Cat for example is out of his job for challenging things (me too but I chose to walk rather than accept what would have come), AHPRA stated no one has been suspended by the tribunal. What they didn’t accept was the arm-twisting threats (loss of job) that precede a tribunal.
I’m also horrified at, but not surprised by, the numbers of complainants. My guess would be they are a mix of new graduates or more senior managers whose jobs are on the line if they don’t “dob”. Nothing destroys teamwork or unity more than the dobber.
When you have a board heavy on administrators and light on clinicians
And matching senior managers
you get a bureaucracy. I’ll leave you with a quote from this hideous organisation which seems pretty unequivocal –
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Rowe toon
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I find this very hard to believe
Courier Paywall
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Also at CM
Let’s go check on Simeon…
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“F*CK OFF!” – Alan Joyce CEO of Qantas meets Aussie Cossack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X_mfUQYEbE
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Myocarditis & Matt Hancock – The Great Covid Swindle
Russell Brand
6.05M subscribers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE_MLJpv71k
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Hancock currently on the QLD NSW border filming a UK reality show.
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Doc Coleman:
Chemotherapy: The scary, staggering truth about the fraud
16TH NOVEMBER 2022
Over the years I have repeatedly found that all medical recommendations are best treated with a large dose of scepticism.
Nowhere is this more true than in the treatment of cancer.
Patients who are diagnosed with cancer find themselves in a state of shock. And yet, while in a state of shock, they find themselves needing to make a number of vital decisions very quickly.
One of the big questions is often this one: ‘Should I have chemotherapy?’
Chemotherapy might improve a patient’s chances of survival by three to five per cent though that modest figure is usually over generous. For example, the evidence suggests that chemotherapy offers breast cancer patients an uplift in survival of little more than 2.5%.
When you consider that chemotherapy can kill and does terrible damage to healthy cells, and to the immune system, it is difficult to see the value of taking chemotherapy.
I don’t think it is any exaggeration to suggest that much of the hype around chemotherapy has taken the treatment into the area of fraud – far more fraudulent indeed than treatments which are dismissed as irrelevant or harmful by the establishment.
The chances are that the doctors looking after you – especially the specialist oncologists in hospital – will recommend chemotherapy. They may push hard to accept their recommendation. They may even be cross or dismissive or assume you are ignorant or afraid if you decide you don’t want it. Cancer charities often shout excitedly about chemotherapy. But they are also often closely linked to the drug companies which make money out of chemotherapy – which in my view makes them part of the large and thriving ‘cancer industry’. It is important to remember that drug companies exist to make money and they will do whatever is necessary to further this aim. They lie and they cheat with scary regularity and they have no interest in helping patients or saving lives. Remember that: the sole purpose of drug companies is to make money, whatever the human cost might be. They will happily suppress potentially life-saving information if doing so increases their profits. It is my belief that by allying themselves with drug companies, cancer charities have become corrupt.
Little or no advice is given to patients about how they themselves might reduce the risk of their cancer returning. The implication is that it’s chemotherapy or nothing. So, for example, doctors are unlikely to tell breast cancer patients that they should avoid dairy foods, though the evidence that they should is very strong.
The one certainty is that it is extremely unlikely that anyone you see will tell you all the truths about chemotherapy. The sad truth is that the statistics about chemotherapy are, of course, fiddled to boost the drug company sales and, therefore, drug company profits. And the deaths caused by chemotherapy are often misreported or under-estimated. So, for example, if a patient who has been taking chemotherapy dies of a sudden heart attack their death will probably be put down as a heart attack – rather than as a result of the cancer or the chemotherapy. There may be some mealy mouthed suggestion that the death was treatment related but the drug will probably not be named and shamed. Neither the chemotherapy nor the cancer will be deemed responsible. What this means in practice is that the survival statistics for chemotherapy are considerably worse than the figures which are made available – considerably worse, indeed, than whatever positive effect might be provided by a harmless placebo.
Here’s another thing: patients who have chemotherapy and survive five years are counted as having been cured by chemotherapy. And patients who have chemotherapy and then die five and a bit years after their diagnosis don’t count as cancer related deaths. And they certainly don’t count as chemotherapy deaths.
A 2016 academic study looked at five year survival rates and concluded that in 90% of patients (including the commonest breast cancer tumours) chemotherapy increased five year survival by less than 2.5%. Only a very small number of cancers (such as testicular cancer and Hodgkin’s disease) were treated effectively by chemotherapy. On top of this dismal success rate, it must be remembered that chemotherapy cripples the immune system (now, at long last, recognised as important in the fight against cancer), damages all living cells, damages the intestines, can cause nausea and tinnitus, can damage nerves, can and does damage the bone marrow with the result that leukaemia develops, (staggeringly, iatrogenic myeloid leukaemia, usually known as ‘therapy related’ in an attempt to distance the disease from doctors, is, in ten per cent of cases, a result of chemotherapy), damages the heart and the hearing and will, in a significant number of patients, result in death.
It is true that chemotherapy may reduce the size of a tumour but in stage 4 cancer chemotherapy seems to encourage a cancer to return more quickly and more aggressively. The cancer stem cells seem to be untouched by the chemotherapy drugs.
Despite all this, the protocol in the treatment of cancer is to turn to chemotherapy and doctors are always reluctant to try anything else.
The Academy of Royal Medical Colleges, which represents 24 Royal Colleges, and a number of other important health bodies, has reported that chemotherapy can do more harm than good when prescribed as palliatives for terminally ill cancer patients. The colleges criticise chemotherapy advocates for ‘raising false hopes’ and doing ‘more harm than good’. They concluded that chemotherapy drugs are unlikely to work.
On the other hand, I wasn’t surprised to see a big cancer charity disagreeing with the 24 medical colleges and claiming that thousands of patients do benefit. My view, which I recognise is probably not shared by the majority of family doctors or oncologists, is that many cancer charities around the world are the unacceptable face of cancer care. It seems to me to be more concerned with making money and keeping the drug companies rich than in caring for patients.
Another report has concluded that chemotherapy can, in some circumstances, actually promote the spread of cancer cells. It was reported in 2017, for example, that when breast cancer patients have chemotherapy before surgery the drug can make the malignant cells spread to distant sites – resulting in metastatic cancer and sending the patient straight from Stage 1 to Stage 4.
Scientists analysed tissue from 20 breast cancer patients who had 16 weeks of chemotherapy and the tissues around the tumour was more conducive to spread in most of the patients. In five of the patients there was a five times greater risk of spread. In none of the patients was the tissue around the tumour less friendly to cancer cells and to metastasis. The problem, it seems is that cancer cells have a great ability to transform themselves and the chemotherapy, designed to kill cancer cells, may encourage the development of cells which are resistant to drugs, which survive the treatment and which form a new cancer.
The one side effect associated with chemotherapy that is widely known is the loss of hair. But that is, to be honest, the least of the problems. Chemotherapy kills healthy cells as well as cancer cells and the severity of the side effects depends on the age and health of the patient as well as on the type of drug used and the dosage in which it is prescribed. And whereas some side effects do disappear after treatment (as the good cells recover) there are some side effects which may never go away.
I mentioned the serious side effects a little earlier but here, as a reminder, is a list of just some of the problems that can be caused by chemotherapy drugs:
The cells in the bone marrow can be damaged, producing a shortage of red blood cells and possibly leukaemia.
The central nervous system can be damaged with a result that the memory may be affected and the patient’s ability to concentrate or think clearly changed. There may be changes to balance and coordination. These effects can last for years. Apart from affecting the brain, chemotherapy can also cause pain and tingling in the hands and feet, numbness, weakness and pain. Not surprisingly, depression is not uncommon.
The digestive system is commonly affected with sores forming in the mouth and throat. These may produce infection and may make food taste unpleasant. Nausea and vomiting may also occur. The weight loss associated with chemotherapy may be a result of a loss of appetite.
In addition to hair loss (which can affect hair all over the body) the skin may be irritated and nails may change colour and appearance.
The kidneys and bladder may be irritated and damaged. The result may be swollen ankles, feet and hands.
Osteoporosis is a fairly common problem and increases the risk of bone fractures and breaks. Women who have breast cancer and who are having treatment to reduce their oestrogen levels are particularly at risk.
Chemotherapy can produce hormone changes with a wide variety of symptoms.
The heart may be damaged and patients who already have weak hearts may be made worse by chemotherapy.
And the other problem with chemotherapy is that it can damage the immune system.
And it is known that chemotherapy can damage DNA.
And does chemotherapy alter the nature of cancer cells? Can it, for example, trigger a change from an oestrogen sensitive cancer cell to a triple negative cell – much harder to treat?
And then there is that risk that chemotherapy might spread cells around the body.
Finally, there is increasing evidence to show that chemotherapy may hasten the death of a number of patients.
Drug companies, cancer charities and doctors recommend chemotherapy because there is big money in it. The least forgivable of these are the cancer charities which exist to protect people but which are ruthless exploiters of patients.
As always the medical literature is confusing but in the ‘Annuals of Oncology’ I found this: ‘the upfront use of chemotherapy does not seem to influence the overall outcome of the disease’.
Most doctors won’t tell you this, or even admit it to themselves, but cancer drugs are killing up to 50% of patients in some hospitals. A study by Public Health England and Cancer Research UK found that 2.4% of breast cancer patients die within a month of starting chemotherapy. The figures are even worse for patients with lung cancer where 8.4% of patients die within a month when treated with chemotherapy. When patients die that quickly, I feel that it is safe to assume that they were killed by the treatment not the disease. At one hospital the death rate for patients with lung cancer treated with chemotherapy was reported at over 50%. Naturally, all the hospitals which took part in the study insisted that chemotherapy prescribing was being done safely. If we accept this then we must also question the validity of chemotherapy. The study showed that the figures are particular bad for patients who are in poor general health when they start treatment.
Next think about this.
In the UK, the National Health Service publishes comprehensive guidelines on what must be done if chemotherapy drugs are spilt. There are crisis emergency procedures to be followed if chemotherapy drugs fall on the floor. And yet these drugs are put into people’s bodies. And residues of these dangerous chemicals are excreted in urine and then end up in the drinking water supply. (I explained several decades ago how prescription drug residues end up in our drinking water.)
It is hardly surprising that many patients being treated with chemotherapy report that their quality of life has plummeted.
The standard oncology approach to cancer is to give chemotherapy and then wait and see if the cancer returns. If it does then more chemotherapy is prescribed. The tragedy is that for so many patients chemotherapy will do more harm than good. Astonishingly, a quarter of cancer patients die of heart attacks – often triggered by deep vein thrombosis and by emboli and brought on by the physical stress of chemotherapy. But these deaths are not included in the official statistics – either for cancer or, just as importantly, for chemotherapy. It is no exaggeration to say that the establishment fiddles the figures to suit its own largely commercial ends – extolling the virtues of drug company products at every opportunity and never failing to throw doubt on any remedy which might threaten the huge cancer industry.
Here’s another thing you might not know.
During the lockdowns and concerns about covid-19, patients who were on chemotherapy were taken off their treatment. They were told that since their treatment would affect their immune systems they would be more vulnerable to the coronavirus. That’s an important admission because the one thing we know for certain is that a healthy immune system is vital for fighting cancer.
Doctors probably won’t tell you any of this but they won’t deny it because it is all true.
The bottom line is that treatments described in clinical trials, paid for by drug companies and generally reviewed by doctors with drug company links, and then published in medical journals which accept huge amounts of drug company advertising, are the only treatments the medical profession accepts. There is much talk about ‘peer review’ trials but all this means is that another doctor or two, with drug company links, will have looked at the paper and given it their approval.
The word ‘corrupt’ doesn’t come close to describing this whole incestuous system.
Anyone who wants to have chemotherapy should have it. I’m not trying to dissuade anyone from using whatever drugs they believe might help them. I’m only interested in providing unbiased, independent information which might help patients make the right decision for themselves.
But too often, I fear, patients beg for treatment, completely understandably, because they want something to be done and because they have been misled by the drug company inspired, and paid for, hype about chemotherapy. And doctors provide that treatment, even though a little research would tell them that they may be doing more harm than good. There are a very few cancers which can be treated well with chemotherapy – but they are very few and they are unfairly and unreasonably promoted as success stories by the drug companies and their shills.
The thing that is forgotten is that chemotherapy can badly damage the patient’s body’s own protections – and with some patients may, therefore, do infinitely more harm than good.
Every patient should decide for themselves – and discuss with their doctors the evidence for and against chemotherapy in their situation. But I think that all patients are entitled to be provided with the background information they would need to help that process of assessment.
Tragically, however, the ignorance about chemotherapy is, sadly, widespread and all pervasive.
How many women with breast cancer realise that their survival chances might be better if they took a low dose aspirin and avoided dairy products than if they accepted chemotherapy?
Doctors don’t tell them that because they have, as a profession, been bought by the pharmaceutical industry.
This essay is taken from Vernon Coleman’s latest book Memories 3 which is available in hard cover, as a paperback and as an eBook – all on Amazon.
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Now we know who is ze really, really big (Commie) bug.
And ze small (Commie) bug squirms before the master ….
Ze Chairman
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Who do you believe?
Zel or Vlad?
Zel:
Vlad:
Stray missile that killed two in Poland IS ‘highly likely’ to have been fired by UKRAINE
….but it is still Russia’s fault.
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Comments on the day.
Good dog.
3.5% unemployment. Is it still the case that 1 hour of work per week is considered employed?
Such low unemployment is because the economy is booming, they tell us. See how good high energy prices are for the economy. Think what the rate would be when they go up 50%.
Off to Townsville tomorrow, happy memories of it from a lifetime ago. I suspect life is going to change again. I’ll be back in due course. Be good.
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NSW Health calls for residents to wear masks indoors
There’s a state election coming up in a few months, so
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Peanuts
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Progress
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The FTX Disaster is Deeper Than you Think
ColdFusion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20BEJouWBgY
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Lara Trump warns DeSantis not to run for president in 2024
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Five Years After Gay Marriage Was Legalised …
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Reagan and the 11th Commandment
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This is like watching a thriller crime movie.
But it isn’t fiction written by a novelist.
It’s true.
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I reckon there were LGBT stonemasons in the olden days
Can you ring me when Canberra looks like this?
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The happiest milennials
Meanwhile in the understaffed hospitals…
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The last time I spoke to my bank I gave them a serve about the 2 step authorisation. I didn’t think about it too deeply. Thinking a bit harder now
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Day 4 with only the ABC. There’s something on called You Can’t Ask That. Tony Windsor, Sam Dastiari, Cheryl Kernot, Wyatt Roy, Amanda Vanstone and others telling us how hard done by they are. I’d hate to know what the question was.
i hope they’re up to date
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Did anyone see Chris Bowen on 7.30 report? I reckon it was green screen. In the background the same person walked past him twice. It’s on again at 2.30am, will record and watch closer. Or I’m going mad.
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FTX toon
If you’re not following the biggest money laundering scheme so far
Phwoar
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🤡 🌎
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TheirABC ran a story about how terrible it was that this caring, sharing philanthropist (using other people’s money) had gone bust.
It is extraordinary. Their line is that a person who ripped off investors is a good guy because he gave/promised other people’s money to charities?
Talk about a moral vacuum.
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We must have the dumbest national broadcaster in the world.
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Avi:
People on the streets of Jerusalem are glad to see the return to power of Benjamin Netanyahu despite his heavy-handed approach to the Covid-19 pandemic when he was last in power.
Bibi forgiven but his Covid-19 handling not forgotten
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We must have the dumbest national broadcaster in the world.
None dare mention the viewers who religiously tune into it.
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How long before Jonathan Greenblatt calls the coverage anti semitic?
Tucker Carlson: Investors didn’t notice this red flag in FTX scandal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaxEK-lDVys
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A damn good question that needed to be asked.
We should all look forward to response. The 6 week lag in getting the answers is a disgrace. If it’s procedural then that needs to change, pronto. That should be answered within 48 hours or less…minus the weekends of course. 🙂
The body language is telling. Flicking through files and flicking the hair; closing the laptop and having a quick gawk at the phone The clowns being asked the questions had to take everything on notice…they looked a bit rattled.
Absolutely useless tax paid hoovers.
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Malcom Roberts:
Before the election a change was made requiring the Australian Signals Directorate to audit the AEC voting systems ensuring they were secure and fit for purpose. I was hoping for a very quick answer at Senate Estimates to confirm this was done but didn’t receive one.
The agency has about 6 weeks to get the answers back to me after taking the questions on notice.
Was the election audited as required?
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SBF or Scorpio
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Fuller
Lisa Benson
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FTX Crypto: Tom Brady is In. Are you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uymLJoKFlW8
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This is the ‘guest author’ recently posted here
How Sam Bankman-Fried Used Democrats and the Media to Build his Crypto Empire, with Jeffrey Tucker
Megyn Kelly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0qqx5MmHlk
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Let the Games Begin.
This is all theatrics until they starting making some serious dents.
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NOVEMBER 17, 2022
Reps. Comer and Jordan Hold News Conference on Biden Family Investigation
Rep. James Comer (R-KY), the incoming House Oversight Committee chair, outlined a Republican investigation into Hunter Biden and the Biden family during a press conference on Capitol Hill. Rep. Comer said this investigation is not about Hunter Biden, but an investigation of President Biden as he alleged the president was directly involved in questionable business deals and financial transactions with foreign countries and companies. Also appearing was Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH), who promised to investigate reported political activity to the Justice Department
Reps. Comer and Jordan Hold News Conference on Biden Family Investigation
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memes
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Check it out from C-SPAN above.
22:00.
A question was asked about J6 and those languishing in confinement without due process, this we all know.
They just skirted around it, yet they preach the constitution.
Disgusting.
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Excellent on the big screen.
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DK Koncerthuset:
Aliens Suite
By James Horner
Performed by Danish National Symphony Orchestra
Conducted by Antony Hermus
Voice: David Bateson
recorded at DR Koncerthuset in June 2017
Aliens Suite // Danish National Symphony Orchestra (LIVE)
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In case you are not clicking on Cohenite’s link, you are missing gems like this
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AMAZING SOLO!! Mark Knopfler – Telegraph Road – Dijon 2013-06-30 SBD
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More Jeffrey Tucker
FTX cryptocurrency scandal is just the beginning | Will Cain Podcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0_pV7KfvmE
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The visuals worked a treat.
Pink Floyd – The Thin Ice (1979)
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