Open Thread – Tuesday 14 September 2021

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  1. kaysee kaysee says:

    New CO2 monitoring credit card enables tracking of ‘carbon footprint

    《Get ready for a Chinese-style social credit system scoring when it comes to your personal spending habits and how they impact “climate change.” A new credit card called Doconomy, has launched that is “working in tight collaboration with Mastercard” and an alliance with the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) is now available so you can monitor your personal CO2 budget on every purchase you make.

    The new CO2 monitoring Mastercard called Doconomy debuted in order to enable “all users to track, measure and understand their impact by presenting their carbon footprint on every purchase.” The credit cards feature the slogan on them reading “DO. Everyday Climate Action” and have a personal pledge on the rear of the card boasting: “I am taking responsibility for every transaction I make to help protect the planet.” The Mastercards feature the UN “Global Climate Action” logo on them as well.

    The World Economic Forum praised Doconomy. “While many of us are aware that we need to reduce our carbon footprint, advice on doing so can seem nebulous and keeping a tab is difficult. DO monitors and cuts off spending, when we hit our carbon max,” the World Economic Forum wrote on the Doconomy CO2 monitoring website.》


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  2. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    Axl Rosé says at 6:33 pm:

    How bizarre – a sovereign citizens site now? No laws? Do the self important brave keyboard warriors really want these anarchists, misfits, illiterates and neanderthals having a role in determining policy for all Australians?

    Yes.  You prefer a totalitarian state for the plebs now?  After enjoying the fruits of liberty all your life?

    Miserable and twisted old cunt.”

     

    Well aren’t you a bright ray of sunshine then! And so well spoken.

     

    Do you routinely not read posts and then dash off your invented version of what was said?

     

    If you are seeking out “miserable” a) look in the mirror and witness an angry li’l fellow; and b) spend all day here or at the other Catallaxy site where you can share elaborate, creative stories of misery and entitlement denied all day long, seven days a week for 18 months now.


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  3. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    Axl Rosé says at 6:33 pm:

    How bizarre – a sovereign citizens site now? No laws? Do the self important brave keyboard warriors really want these anarchists, misfits, illiterates and neanderthals having a role in determining policy for all Australians?

    Yes.  You prefer a totalitarian state for the plebs now?  After enjoying the fruits of liberty all your life?

    Miserable and twisted old c..t.”

     

    Well aren’t you a bright ray of sunshine then! And so well spoken.

     

    Do you routinely not read posts and then dash off your invented version of what was said?

     

    If you are seeking out “miserable” a) look in the mirror and witness an angry li’l fellow; and b) spend all day here or at the other Catallaxy site where you can share elaborate, creative stories of misery and entitlement denied all day long, seven days a week for 18 months now.


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  4. candy says:

    Good work by VicPol. They have surrounded and now removed all of the protester morons at the Shrine of Remembrance.

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    I think Grigory it doesn’t hurt to ask why there is such anger, and not just label folk as morons.  It may not be just because of the forced vaccine, but other issues all mixed in – economic and social etc. The world is more stressful if you are under-employed and feeling put upon.

    One way to find out is to talk to people but Dan Andrews does not believe in conciliation, the old Labor values. Get the police and shoot them is his idea.

    He is after all a very wealthy chap,  very well placed in life and nice family around him.  What others may be experiencing in their lives is not something he can comprehend perhaps.  He can’t therefore see them as fellow human beings entitled to opinions and choices.


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  5. A Suggestion says:

    I think Grigory it doesn’t hurt to ask why there is such anger, and not just label folk as morons.  It may not be just because of the forced vaccine, but other issues all mixed in – economic and social etc. The world is more stressful if you are under-employed and feeling put upon.

    ********

    Interesting, that when the left protest and cause conflict, the call goes out to understand their issues and accomodate their views.

    Not so, for normal people apparently.


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  6. Mark A says:

    No surprises here with the two commenters supporting Dan and the police.

    Grigs is just being contrarian Grigs and MoG is a well known supporter of all authority specially the police, been like that since time dot.


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  7. Indolent says:

    How bizarre – a sovereign citizens site now? No laws? Do the self important brave keyboard warriors really want these anarchists, misfits, illiterates and neanderthals having a role in determining policy for all Australians?

    *************************

    No, we just want our freedom back.


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  8. mh says:

    Craig Kelly MP
    @CraigKellyMP

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    NEVER did I think that in Australia anyone, let alone Vic Police, would ever point & fire a weapon in the direction of Melbourne’s Shrine of Remembrance. Dictator Dan MUST GO as buck stops with him. Firing of weapons in direction of an ANZAC Memorial is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.


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  9. mh says:

    Avi Yemini

    @OzraeliAvi

    Police storm The Shrine of Remembrance, firing tear gas at construction workers on the sacred place. Shameful.

    https://twitter.com/OzraeliAvi/status/1440569340567318528?s=20


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  10. kaysee kaysee says:

    NEVER did I think that in Australia anyone, let alone Vic Police, would ever point & fire a weapon in the direction of Melbourne’s Shrine of Remembrance.

    I keep hearing this on talkback radio:
    Can’t blame the police. They are just doing their job. They are following orders.

    If the police are prepared to blindly follow the orders they have been following, they have lost their moral compass. They are responsible for their actions along with those issuing the orders.


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  11. kaysee kaysee says:

    Wuhan scientists planned to release coronaviruses into cave bats 18 months before outbreak

    《New documents show that just 18 months before the first Covid-19 cases appeared, researchers had submitted plans to release skin-penetrating nanoparticles containing “novel chimeric spike proteins” of bat coronaviruses into cave bats in Yunnan, China.

    They also planned to create chimeric viruses, genetically enhanced to infect humans more easily, and requested $14million from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa) to fund the work.

    Papers, confirmed as genuine by a former member of the Trump administration, show they were hoping to introduce “human-specific cleavage sites” to bat coronaviruses which would make it easier for the virus to enter human cells. 》


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  12. Steve trickler says:

    The sweeping plains of Wyoming, Big Boy 4014, bison and a sprinting antelope…if you look closely. Excellent capture with the drone.

    The music worked a treat with this visual perspective. 4:11

    Watch the Big Boy start a buffalo (bison) stampede and also race an antelope as it returns to WY.


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  13. mh says:

    Mick and Grigs will love this one:

    Laurence Fox

    @LozzaFox

    Evil is having its best period in years.

    https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1440600441876664320?s=20


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  14. mh says:

    ‘I keep hearing this on talkback radio:
    Can’t blame the police. They are just doing their job. They are following orders.’

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    I hope you are not listening to Ray Hadley.


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  15. Steve trickler says:

    Talk back radio, where all calls are vetted prior to going on air. Ring up say you want to talk about the 70 year grandmother and police thuggery and their Nazi appearance… see how far your get. Mislead them and they will dump you before getting on air due to the time delay.

    MSM is shit and so are many that listen to it.

     


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  16. Candy says:

    No.  five is cute, kaysee.   Who doesn’t feel that way about giraffes.


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  17. mh says:

    Craig Kelly MP
    @CraigKellyMP

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    Congratulations Monica Smit on your historic Vic Supreme Court win against Vic Police.

    It was outrageous for Vic Police to try to impose unreasonable & undemocratic bail conditions that kept Monica a political prisoner.

    A win for JUSTICE


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  18. mh says:

    The Age:

    A Supreme Court judge has rejected several bail conditions sought by Victoria Police to control the behaviour of anti-lockdown activist Monica Smit, labelling some unnecessary, disproportionate and without utility.

    ***

    VicPol continue to go lower than a well-digger’s ringpiece.


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  19. Axl Rosé says:

    It was outrageous for Vic Police to try to impose unreasonable & undemocratic bail conditions that kept Monica a political prisoner.

     

    Centrelinkers, junkies, stragglers, anarchists, misfits, illiterates and neanderthals: 1

    Schutzstaffel/Mick Gold Coast QLD: 0


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  20. mh says:

    Protester with rubber bullet wound, says he’s “disgusted” with police

    https://twitter.com/patrickbasedmn/status/1440522875958480900?s=20


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  21. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    Mark A says at 8:29 pm:

    “No surprises here with the two commenters supporting Dan and the police.

    Grigs is just being contrarian Grigs and MoG is a well known supporter of all authority specially the police, been like that since time dot.”

     

    That is demonstrably not true, indeed I posted on a decades long mistrust of Victoria’s police a year ago but don’t let the facts get in the way of your invented truth – just because you say it is so does not make it so. Drongos pushing an agenda don’t observe objectivity though – I know, I know.

     

    Don’t blame me for not wishing to be part of your gang. The biggest problem in Victoria is the voters who keep clamouring for more – they have voted for Andrews for two decades, twice as Premier most recently. What did they think would happen?

     

    He’s a good show to get up again next year. 😁

     

    The site has degenerated to a handful of habitual posters in furious agreement, declaring each others posts “superb” so I see at the other spot – hilarious! – a couple of echo chambers.


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  22. Axl Rosé says:

    MSM is shit and so are many that listen to it.

     

    Talking Head


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  23. mh says:

    The desperation is strong with this one:

    ‘Free tickets to this weekend’s NRL finals are on offer to those who line up for a Pfizer shot today, while those at the games will also have access to vaccination.’


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  24. mh says:

    Gender furore as all-male netball team cop vile abuse

    Netball Queensland has been accused of turning its own championships into a farce as an all-male team swept to victory over their female opponents in mostly one-sided encounters.
    😄


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  25. mh says:

    ZUBY: New Album Out Now
    @ZubyMusic

    I see that Melbourne is standing up to governmental tyranny. I’m with you in spirit! #FreeAustralia

    12:34 PM · Sep 22, 2021


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  26. Steve trickler says:

    mh@11:35 pm

    A couple around here will probably use that as a screensaver.

    *************

    Just heard a massive explosion. A few minutes of silence and now nothing but sirens. And here comes the chopper.

     


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  27. FlyingPigs says:

    @Mick of Gold Coast

    What do you believe in?

    And are you a Drug Tester for The Government?


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  28. FlyingPigs FlyingPigs says:

    Hopefully any Union Member of CBUS has submitted their withdrawal form to transfer to another Superannuation Fund.


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  29. FlyingPigs FlyingPigs says:

    Mick o GC

    When did you become a member of the communists??


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  30. FlyingPigs FlyingPigs says:

    I wonder who constructed the Melbourne Shrine of Remembrance?


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  31. FlyingPigs FlyingPigs says:

    The arse-wipes bemoaning ordinary folk heading to the Shrine ignore that it was those same peoples forebears, the common ordinary people, who fronted up to fight for Australia in lots of Wars.


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  32. FlyingPigs FlyingPigs says:

    Poofta Pansy RSL types can get fundamentally far away…

    Go support your high heel queer.


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  33. FlyingPigs FlyingPigs says:

    fkn RSL allowed the then xunt head of The Australian Uni-Party, Julia Gillard, to lead an Anzac March to the Shrine wearing a communist red beret.

    Fk off RSL


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  34. FlyingPigs FlyingPigs says:

    I want to see Daniel Andrews’ drug record.


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  35. FlyingPigs FlyingPigs says:

    Who will look after the poor benighted Afghani poppy growers?

    Surely mandatory heroin shots for school kids is reasonable?


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  36. struth says:

    The rabble of lower class scum who so disgust Mick from the cultural plastic vacuum of chain stores, were corralled at the shrine by police who chased them there after opening fire on them without provocation.

    As the protesters were peaceful and picking up their own rubbish while there and ensuring not one threw anything at police the storm troopers knew they were in a pickle as there were independent journalists live streaming.

    In a shocking display of dishonesty the police to the right of the protesters dropped a knee as they did for the BLM.

    This fooled the protesters who were overjoyed and ran toward them with glee.

    The stasi then moved forward at the front.

    There was a stand off for hours as the police were being filmed and needed to respond to violence that never came.

    Eventually they said they would let the protesters go if they left in small groups toward St Kilda rd.

    Those that did were arrested.

    All was still peaceful so once enough had left they attacked needing vision of “violece” they provoked as soon as the independent media left for use by the MSM.

    Of course these protesters don’t pronounce their vowels correctly for Mick and therefore have no hope in bringing in change.

    Compliance with good diction is the only way out of this says safari suit Mick.


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  37. Ragu says:

    Superb screed , Struth.


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  38. caveman says:

    It was never about health and this certainly proves it.  Stuff I haven’t seen in this Breitbart link.

    Rubber bullets for public health


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  39. rosie says:

    Mick you didn’t watch the footage?

    Seemed to me like there were a lot of young people, and workers and Topher Field (now not so young)  was definitely there.

    And who do you claim was handing out those mythical $50 bills before dismissing the lot of them as people of no worth?.

    Seems like there was unanimous condemnation of Vic police over at Dover’s btw .

    These ‘hobos’ are  only people making a very public stand against Andrew’s tyranny and getting Victoria’s police state the world wide attention it deserves.

     


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  40. Ragu says:

    After years of telling the blogosphere that he hangs out with captains of industry, high-end lawyers, police commissioners and Mensa tards, Mick is a bit embarrassed that the blokes with the biggest dicks are the people he despises


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  41. FlyingPigs FlyingPigs says:

    rosie says:
    September 23, 2021 at 7:20 am
    …………………………………………………
    well said rosie.


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  42. mh says:

    Candace Owens
    @RealCandaceO

    Yesterday I learned about missing white person syndrome. Can someone let me know what syndrome it is that causes us to ignore every white person that is killed by a police officer, but demands that we burn cities across the world to the ground for thugs like George Floyd?


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  43. mh says:

    Sydney hospital in major Covid outbreak
    Dozens of people, including staff and patients, have tested positive for Covid-19 at a major Sydney hospital in the past week.
    ***

    It’s a good job Brad Hazzard has banned outdoor church services in NSW, otherwise things would be much worse.


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  44. rosie says:

    That should have been ‘the’ only.

     

    And so disappointing st ruth didn’t re post his abusive comment about me here as well.

     

     


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  45. mh says:

    Not paywalled

    NRL to give away 3000 finals tickets in Qld vax push

    https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-to-give-away-3000-finals-tickets-in-qld-vax-push/news-story/1f29bfc253a64177b3bdab176e61b0e1
    ***

    Who is more desperate? The NRL, the Qld Govt, or Big Pharma desperate that there will be no control group?

     


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  46. Grigory M says:

    opening fire on them without provocation

    == = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

    You did better when you used to text from your truck at each traffic lights stop.

    You were definitely less of a nong back then.


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  47. Shy Ted says:

    That male netball team is a classic. They ought to turn it into a game. Like soccer.


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  48. mh says:

    Neil, it was for his health.


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  49. struth says:

    They fired on them without provocation.

    Unless shouting Fuck Dan warrants being fired upon when you are unarmed.

    Grigs, you are a disgrace.

    Give yourself a kick up the arse.


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  50. cohenite says:

    Good lame pics.

     

    The chunks are laughing at us. You could drown every Western leader and we’d be better off:

    China plays its green card, promising to sell the world its wind and solar projects produced by cheap coal (thegwpf.com)

     

    And where does the coal come from: us (stands for you suckers).


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  51. jo says:

    Hungary’s Orban and Poland’s Ministrow seem to have their countries welfare at heart.


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  52. mh says:

    Victoria COVID cases on Thursday as Melbourne becomes …
    https://7news.com.au › lifestyle › health-wellbeing › vic…

    2 hours ago — Victoria has recorded its biggest ever daily COVID-19 surge as Melbourne becomes the most locked down city in the world.


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  53. Axl Rosé says:

    2 hours ago — Victoria has recorded its biggest ever daily COVID-19 surge as Melbourne becomes the most locked down city in the world.

     

    #IstandwithDan crowd would be delighted with the perverse relevance that gains.


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  54. cohenite says:

    Good question:
    How did 15,000 Haitians suddenly show up, all at once, at the Southern Border? You’re telling me that the vaunted US surveillance and intelligence communities didn’t see this?
    Think about what it would take to move 15,000 people across an ocean.  Lots of money.  Lots of aircraft and/or large boats.

    Communication. Logistics.  Coordination.  Management.

    How did they all know to go straight to the International Bridge at Del Rio?


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  55. cohenite says:

    What a bastard:

    Former President George W. Bush is throwing a fundraiser for outspoken Never-Trumper Liz Cheney.

    This comes after Bush compared Jan. 6 protesters to the 9-11 terrorists on the 20 year anniversary of the World Trade Center attacks on America.

    George W. Bush Is Raising Money for Bitter Never-Trumper Liz Cheney (thegatewaypundit.com)


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  56. cohenite says:

    Uma Thurman Rips Texas Law, Reveals She Had an Abortion as a Teen: ‘No Regrets’ (breitbart.com)

    I bet the smug bitch would have had some regrets if her mother had done the same thing.


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  57. Axl Rosé says:

    How did 15,000 Haitians suddenly show up, all at once, at the Southern Border?

     

    You’re starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist.  Keep up the good work.🐘


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  58. FlyingPigs FlyingPigs says:

    cohenite says:
    September 23, 2021 at 12:52 pm

    Good question:…………………………………..

    There is an extensive and well funded network of NGO’s operating behind the scenes for all this movement.

    It is documented and The Feds pay them, The NGO’s, to care for border jumpers once they are within country and registered with an NGO.


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  59. johanna johanna says:

    According to a story at Breitbart a couple of days ago, they actually came from Mexico, where they were being held by the government in the south part of the country.

    Joe Biden’s brilliant diplomatic skills so pissed of the Mexicans, they let ’em loose with directions and best wishes.

    Too lazy to find the story now, but it’s in the Politics section somewhere.


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  60. Top Ender says:

    “Douze”. 12 in French. 

    The number of Froggie submarines we are not getting.


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  61. FlyingPigs FlyingPigs says:

    Top Ender says:
    September 23, 2021 at 3:03 pm

    “Douze”. 12 in French.

    The number of Froggie submarines we are not getting……………………………………..

    bit of a douzey for the French.


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  62. kaysee kaysee says:

    Cinq   at 2:58 pm

    From  New Scientist  (October 2015)

    Nobel Prize for medicine for drugs that have benefited billions

    《 The 2015 Nobel prize for medicine or physiology has been awarded to scientists who developed new drugs for roundworm parasites and malaria. The treatments have improved the lives of 3.4 billion people around the world, says the Nobel committee.

    Half the prize was awarded to Chinese scientist Youyou Tu, who drew on traditional Chinese medicines to discover artemisinin, one of the most important malaria drugs used today. She tested the drug on herself before starting clinical trials.

    Irish parasitologist William C. Campbell and Japanese microbiologist Satoshi Ōmura share the other half the prize for discoveries that led to ivermectin, which has dramatically reduced the incidence of river blindness and lymphatic filariasis.

    Both drugs have been available widely at low cost across the world. 》


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  63. kaysee kaysee says:

    And from PubMed  (September 2021)

    Ivermectin: a multifaceted drug of Nobel prize-honoured distinction with indicated efficacy against a new global scourge, COVID-19

    《 In 2015, the Nobel Committee for Physiology or Medicine, in its only award for treatments of infectious diseases since six decades prior, honoured the discovery of ivermectin (IVM), a multifaceted drug deployed against some of the world’s most devastating tropical diseases. Since March 2020, when IVM was first used against a new global scourge, COVID-19, more than 20 randomized clinical trials (RCTs) have tracked such inpatient and outpatient treatments. Six of seven meta-analyses of IVM treatment RCTs reporting in 2021 found notable reductions in COVID-19 fatalities, with a mean 31% relative risk of mortality vs. controls. During mass IVM treatments in Peru, excess deaths fell by a mean of 74% over 30 days in its ten states with the most extensive treatments. Reductions in deaths correlated with the extent of IVM distributions in all 25 states with p < 0.002. Sharp reductions in morbidity using IVM were also observed in two animal models, of SARS-CoV-2 and a related betacoronavirus. The indicated biological mechanism of IVM, competitive binding with SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, is likely non-epitope specific, possibly yielding full efficacy against emerging viral mutant strains. 》


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  64. kaysee kaysee says:

    Do the woke lack self-awareness or brain cells?

    Designer of AOC’s ‘Tax the Rich’ gown owes back taxes on $1.6 million Hollywood Hills home, report

    《The designer of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s “Tax the Rich” gown for the recent Met Gala reportedly has her own tax issues, including owing thousands on a $1.6 million home she recently purchased in Los Angeles’ Hollywood Hills.

    Designer Aurora James bought the home in September 2020, but the property is already listed as “delinquent” by the Los Angeles County assessor’s office. The office told The New York Post, which this past weekend reported on James’ tax issues, the designer owed $2,504 in property taxes 》


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  65. Ragu says:

    Australia should be all over Ivermectin as a bunch of Aussie researchers help prove its efficacy and safety.

     

    Jingoism in this country now means cheering on athletes dying of vaccines


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  66. Ragu says:

    Has it kicked orf in Melbourne, again?


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  67. Neil says:

    This is a follow up from an earlier post

     

    “”””

    A Melbourne man who was flung head-first to the ground by a police officer who approached him from behind amid a high-intensity anti-protest operation was “calling for his mum” when he woke up from being unconscious, according to a “distressed” witness.

    Shocking footage has emerged of an officer walking up behind the man standing in Flinders Street Station yesterday, before violently slamming him headfirst into the ground. “”””

     

    Melbourne protests: Video emerges cop throwing man headfirst into the ground | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site


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  68. kaysee kaysee says:

    Project Veritas

    PART 2:
    FDA Official ‘Blow Dart African Americans’ & Wants ‘Nazi Germany Registry’ for Unvaccinated

    FDA employee:
    There needs to be a registry of people who aren’t vaccinated


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  69. Black Ball says:

    Bolt in today’s Hun. First 3 paragraphs and the final one I shall reproduce:

    ‘John Setka called the protestors morons. But the real morons are Labor leaders and union bosses like Setka who incited these massive protests in Melbourne.

    They’ve brought civil war to Melbourne through their bullying, threats and lies.

    Let me be very clear: I am against political violence. I am against attacking police. I am all for vaccines.’

    So trying to have 2 bob each way it seems. Final paragraph:

    ‘Yes, I have little sympathy for anti-vaxxers, too, but what’s Andrews’ endgame, to not just sack the vaccine hesitant and ban them from protesting, but to send in the tanks if they don’t stop?’

    Pack your bags for the gulags baby!

     


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  70. kaysee kaysee says:

    ‘Yes, I have little sympathy for anti-vaxxers, too ….

    Is that because you don’t understand the entire issue, Andrew? Or because you have not bothered to educate yourself about the Covid vaccines?

    Or is it simply safer for you and your career that you sit on the fence?


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  71. FlyingPigs FlyingPigs says:

    Pack your bags for the gulags baby!

    ””””””””””””””””””””””””””””’

    I hope the showers work.


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  72. johanna johanna says:

    It’s one of those phrases used by the gutless to justify selling out their principles, kaysee.

    Like “I’m all in favour of free speech, but …”

    Always signals someone who cannot be relied on.


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  73. kaysee kaysee says:

    Always signals someone who cannot be relied on.

    For Bolt and his journo pals.

    The Curious Case of the Pro-Vaxxer Who Never Stopped Barking, Night and Day

    On the list:

    《 There are the media companies, including, of course, the public broadcasters who have never seen a woke cause they didn’t like, that have chosen mammon and pro-vaxx ideology.

    Finally, there are the journalists who have transformed themselves from curious truth-seekers to arms of AstraZeneca and Pfizer. 》


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  74. mh says:

    Media companies successfully challenge ban on aerial protest telecasts
    TV networks can still show live aerial footage of Melbourne’s CBD protests after being granted a stay against two notices that tried to ban the coverage.
    ***
    Another poke in the eye for Dan/VicPol


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  75. candy says:

    Shocking footage has emerged of an officer walking up behind the man standing in Flinders Street Station yesterday, before violently slamming him headfirst into the ground.

    ***

    Paton the police Commissioner said the circumstances leading up to incident are important, but how could it matter?

    The man appeared unarmed, on a phone, with police officers around him, and not shouting or being abusive.   There was no need for the vicious attack.  Why?


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