The first in the series of threads on the US Elections was posted in July. The theme of that thread was on the questions of how we select the candidate who we think should be the winner of the 2024 Presidential election.
What are the standards we draw on to make our decisions? How do we decide?
What are our criteria? Do we use a critical evaluation process?
I concluded my last comment in that thread with the following observation:
The primaries kick off in January. In the next five months, the GOP voters will need to think long and hard about how their voting decisions will affect the final results for the 2024 General Election.
This is the second in the series. The race to win the GOP nomination is now on, with campaigning in earnest by the candidates.
I plan this to be mostly sharing of links and information which will provide reference material by way of articles, comments, video clips, images and other related data or viewpoints from the various sources, including legacy media, alternative media or social media. It is up to the readers to use the information as they please. Learn from it, research further, have a discussion or debate, or just ignore it.
We have had some commenting on the US Elections in the Open Threads. I don’t want to repeat the comments that I have shared there, so I will add the links here.
See August thread and September thread.
Note:
Unlike my comments in the first post of this series where I tried to organise my data in a group or a logical order, this one is going to be without major attention to date sequence or topic or any such arrangement. The reason is because it is too time-consuming.
Whenever possible, I will try to post similar subject matter links as a set and add some background to origin or dates, otherwise you will have to pick out the details from what is posted. The speed at which events are moving makes it hard to fact-check. I try to check the origins, but the research takes up time. So I will share here and leave it up to each of you to pick it up and follow from there. As I mentioned in the first part, the responses from some candidates and their supporters can get quite ugly and vicious.
As this is a major event from this week, I’ll begin with it.
Hurricane Idalia
Two residents of Florida.
One is the governor. One is the 45th President, a private citizen.
Both are candidates for 47th President.
Starting 29 September, as of 5 p.m Hurricane Idalia was forecast to reach Florida’s Big Bend. The governor and his team knew in advance about Idalia making landfall as a strong hurricane. Preparations and warnings were in place. DeSantis is working long days (sure, he is governor, it is his job) but he is busy with saving the state, its people, property, restoring normalcy as quickly as possible.
Trump is a private citizen, it is not part of his “job” to help in any way. But he was President and is on the campaign to run again. He is in a position of power, there is a natural disaster taking place. The human instinct would be to set aside everything that is not urgent, and try to help those in need.
Compare the pair.
Decide who is behaving like a leader.
Or make excuses, if you prefer.
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2 Florida men who had very different days. Quite a contrast
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two Floridians, two leaders, on the eve of hurricane landfall in the state DeSantis is leading, has temporarily suspended his campaign, all messaging has been 100% focused on the People and prep, zero campaigning DJT is focused on himself, his polls and attacking DeSantis
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Posted in OT, a few days ago
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Next few comments, still with the hurricane.
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Started his day at 4 a.m. this morning and already has 23 meetings on his calendar
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When asked about his thoughts on fmr. Pres. Trump, who is a resident of Florida, not commenting on Hurricane Idalia, Gov. DeSantis says it’s “not my concern”:
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Desantis Issues Warning To Potential Looters “This part of Florida, you’ve got a lot of advocates of the Second Amendment…You loot, we shoot. You never know what’s behind that door.”
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Contrast of the last 24 hours quite stunning. DeSantis calmly and efficiently guiding his large state through yet another crisis, this one a category-4 hurricane, which he’s done so many times now it is almost taken for granted.
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Have whatever opinion you want about GovRonDeSantis but there is no denying: he was prepared for Hurricane Idalia, had emergency troops lined up ready to help and was physically and emotionally present for the people of Florida.
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Ron DeSantis has led Florida. People in Florida should have full power in around two days. Just incredible. This is top-notch leadership.
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B/ Trump
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Two days before the hurricane when RDS is busy with preparations to safeguard the state and its people.
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Predictions from his closest ally Loomer before the hurricane arrives.
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The hurricane has just hit Florida, but this is what is the really important news.
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The hurricane is still in Florida
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As DeSantis leads Florida through Idalia …
He blames DeSantis for something that RDS is not responsible for. The Governor doesn’t approve electric rates. The Public Service Commission does.
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This thread is from twitter. I cannot vouch for the authenticity of the comments here because I don’t have the sources to research.
But Twitter has a fact-check system called Community Notes where if it was all fake, someone would have noted it.
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After Idalia has left Florida ……
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Even Democrats are acknowledging RonDeSantis is “doing a good job” responding to Hurricane Idalia and the aftermath. Rep. Jared Moskowitz: “The Governor is doing a good job on emergency management and he has since he came into office.”
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Hurricane Ron DeSantis
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The Hurricane and its aftermath will be long forgotten at the primaries.
Look out the window at the state of USA, its a disaster.
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Matters not according to Alexa
Just the headline. I’m a bit more inclined to think the election will proceed but the deep state will be caught in the act, for all the world to see.
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The GOP candidate should be the one who will destroy the swamp and seek prosecution of those who destroyed USA the last 3 years be it the Biden crime family, the porous borders, the weaponisation of the FBI and justice systems, among other things.
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There are some possible tricks that may be used to block the elections.
The question to be asked is:
Knowing all this, why is one particular candidate and team fostering such rivalry and disunity within the GOP?
Why is the focus not on the Dems as the enemy and ensuring that free and fair elections can take place instead of the ego needs of one person?
Who is this GOP candidate who will actually work towards destroying the swamp not just talk about it?
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Campaign Funds
Heard that phrase Follow the money?…
All political campaigns need funds to run. So supporters fund raise, contribute and put together the money required. Even before this 2024 campaign, the “Stop the Steal” donations raised $250 million to fund the claims that there was fraud in the 2020 election. Instead, this money disappeared into a Super Pac.
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Trump Directed $250 Million in Donations to Leadership PAC
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2021 Interview:
When Tucker was still in serious investigative journalism
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Then when Trump announced his 2024 launch last year, he raised millions. There were all kinds of other fundraising schemes like selling Digital Trading cards. We kept hearing about how much is being donated to Trump, and how with each indictment, the millions come pouring in.
If Trump is so popular and getting millions, his campaign should be flush with cash. Instead, Trump’s Save America PAC is almost broke.
So much money. Where has it gone?
a/ Legal bills
Trump is running out of other people’s money to pay lawyers.
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Money for other priorities like:
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b/ Ads targeting DeSantis
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c/ And expenses like Melania’s bills
d/ … and lining other pockets.
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Since the funds are running out,
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That gambit didn’t work…..
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So the Trump team tried to spread a story of a DeSantis PAC switching allegiances to Trump.
So, there is WAY more to the story of a DeSantis ‘Super PAC’
reportedly switching allegiances
Today, there were many breathless headlines about a Super PAC formerly supporting Ron DeSantis shifting its support to Donald Trump
It turns out that the PAC was fake. The DeSantis team had warned about the ‘Ron to the Rescue’ PAC way back in November last year.
So apparently this ‘mega’ PAC had raised a bit over $1500 and they already spent it without donating to ANY candidate.
Fake PAC, fake story. Debunked.
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When that trick didn’t work….
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Charlie Kirk Calls on Ron DeSantis to Donate His Super PAC Money to Trump:
‘He Would Be Hero Status in the Republican Party!’
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MAGA wants the $110 million from DeSantis’ Super Pac to help Trump win the election.
This is the same MAGA that has spent over $15 million ridiculing and abusing DeSantis.
This is how MAGA has described DeSantis.
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That is some audacity to think that you can insult a candidate and his supporters, but his Super PAC will be so honoured that he is being called a “hero” by MAGA that they will hand over their millions to the candidate and team that has been mocking them.
There are also legal rules about candidates contacting their PACs.
As if Charlie Kirk doesn’t know that.
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Video (2:17 min)
Thoughts on Charlie Kirk calling for DeSantis to drop out, and give his 100M in campaign funds to Trump, saying RDS was ‘lighting money on fire’ by running 10M in ads in the early primary states
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Other tacky methods to raise funds.
From selling NFTs to selling T-shirts in less than 6 months
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Trump’s Truth Social
deal facing ‘catastrophic threat’ of having to return $300 million to investors
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That’s a cracker of a t-shirt.
Here’s another good one
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2020
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In July-August 2020, some medical professionals and scientists who were concerned about the Covid policies and lockdowns managed to obtain, with some difficulty, a meeting with the President, at the White House. One of Trump’s adviser’s now claims the meeting did not take place – in other words, a respected scientist like Dr Jay Bhattacharya is a liar.
The proof of the meeting.
These physicians and scientists explained to Trump the need to lift the lockdowns and fire/demote Fauci and Birx.
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Two interviews here that reveal some behind the scenes details that GOP voters need to know.
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Chris Nelson interviews Dr Bhattacharya
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Jenna Ellis interviews Dr Bhattacharya
Dr Bhattacharya explains how President Trump knew his Covid strategy was wrong, but failed to sideline Fauci and Birx, instead leaving them with the power to shut out scientists Trump And his Team hired who were rejecting Fauci-ism.
Dr Bhattacharya said:
The re-election was at the top of his mind. He thought if he fired Fauci and Birx in August 2020 he was not going to get re-elected ……
You don’t let the electoral decisions enter the most important decision you are going to make as President.
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I’ve heard all these descriptions used for Trump:
He is not a politician. He is not a RINO. He will drain the swamp. He loves America.
He is a patriot. He is not establishment. He supports freedom.
What were his priorities at the most critical stage of his Presidency? Not the health and well-being of Americans. Not freedom. Not draining the swamp. He was focussed on polls and how he will get re-elected. The polls determined how he would act. Being re-elected was far more important than the problems that Americans were facing.
Covid was this pandemic that was affecting the entire world and what happened in the US was the guide for others. Instead of being a leader and making decisions to save lives, health and the economy, his priority was his future and re-election. Think about that.
He ignored the advice of the top physicians and scientists whose only concern was for America and the health and well-being of Americans. They understood all aspects of this “pandemic”, were disturbed by how it was being handled, and came to see the President in the hope that he, as the leader of the country, could rectify the problems. But, the President was bothered about the impact of his decision on the polls.
So he didn’t behave like the typical politician? The pro-establishment club? A RINO who was only looking out for his own agenda? What about freedom vs the lockdowns? How about draining the swamp and getting rid of Fauci and Birx?
Would Mitch McConnell or George Bush or any of the real RINOs or the Democrats or the globalists have behaved differently?
This great hero is going to drain the swamp? When? How?
He couldn’t do something as simple as firing Fauci and Birx. If they had some contracts which didn’t allow this, he could have demoted them to some obscure department – far away from the Covid-related decisions – where they couldn’t cause any harm. And he could have appointed the authentic medical professionals to takeover the Pandemic taskforce.
Instead, he left them in charge and on his last day, he issued commendations to people including Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx. A reward to the swamp for a job well done.
This is the same Donald Trump who is going to DRAIN THE SWAMP? This is the same Trump who is the ONE to save America? He had four years to begin the draining process, instead he was poll-watching to ensure his popularity and re-election. He couldn’t put America First when it needed a leader to make tough decisions, even if it would come at a personal cost.
Want him to have another four years?
For what?
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22 August 2023
If I Interviewed Trump About Covid…
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Now, he has come up with some We Will Not Comply attention seeking video and is spouting about freedom as if he had not been part in the problem?
Luckily, there are Twitter community notes to help out.
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Trump’s Revisionism
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Then and now.
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There was a question, on the Open Thread, about my Red Flag.
You know that tale about the straw that broke the camel’s back? It’s something like that. It looks like a small piece of straw and you ignore it, and the next one, the next, the next…. Suddenly, one day, something clicks, and you realise you can’t ignore it any longer because it isn’t a small piece. It is a big haystack.
In this case, it is when someone who was a Trump supporter has an aha reaction. The incident where they finally realised they can no longer continue to ignore what’s happening is their Big Red Flag or the Light Bulb moment.
Then all the bits and pieces from the past drop into place and the person sees the real picture. The incident and time will differ for each person.
An example.
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I am going to take a detour and move to Vivek Ramaswamy. This is a long commentary, and after that I will be posting links with shorter opinions.
I first noticed him when he doing his media rounds talking about anti-wokeism. Then, there was the news that he was planning to run as a candidate for President. At first, I thought he was probably running as an Independent because I had never come across him linked to GOP.
When he announced his run, I thought he was raising important issues. Then reports began to seep in about his links to Soros and his payment to edit his Wikipedia page, to scrub off certain details. But when he got full steam into his campaign mode, the chameleon skills became apparent. In fact, he can flip so quickly on what he said not just a few years ago, but last year, last month, last week, last 24 hours.
What is even more fascinating, however, is some so called conservatives in the media. Some of them have heard or read a few of his chatter bytes which sound so good. It appears that he is an outsider, a non-politician, no links to anyone in the establishment or the globalists, speaks fluently, has all this knowledge about everything especially in all tiers of government even though he does not have a day’s actual experience, at any level. Based on his smooth talk he has been judged brilliant and capable of running the country. So he will sit in the Oval Office and transform America into his fantasy land.
He’s managed to find friends in “conservative” circles who are impressed with him. One has to shake one’s head that these so-called experienced media personalities have not been inclined to spend a few hours in research and investigate this newcomer who has sudden appeared in the public space. It would provide them with enough facts to be very, very suspicious.
He’s got Jordan Peterson, Nigel Farage, Tucker Carlson, Laurence Fox, Candace Owens, Tony Heller and others who are impressed by his words of wisdom. Some years ago, Candace Owens was something of a conservative star. Now she has lost her way. She has become one of Ramaswamy’s greatest champions, supporting him and giving him a berth on her shows.
Ramaswamy is such an obvious con-ster, with facts easily available, and yet so many are taken in. He plays to the MAGA crowd by following the points in their playbook and is properly deferential to Trump-is-god. Either it was a prior plan with Trump and team that he comes in to take away from the DeSantis vote, or he is an opportunist and is moving his chess pieces accordingly. He said he was running to be President not any other role, but then again that was in the flip-flopping past.
Either way, he is no Conservative. Just a fraud.
There will be more on Ramaswamy related to several topics.
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Ramaswamy Paid Wikipedia Editor to Delete References
….before Announcing Campaign
References such as:
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He is running as a GOP candidate but according to voter records is an unaffiliated voter.
He is 38 years old and has only voted in 2 presidential elections – 2004 for a Libertarian, 2020 for Trump. He decided in December, last year, to run as a candidate in the 2024 election, but voter records show that he did not vote in the Ohio state primaries last year or in May, this year.
GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy is an ‘unaffiliated’ voter, records show
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Despite his vast non-expertise as a voter and no first-hand experience working in government, he has wonderful policies on making changes to the voting regulations. Like raising the voting age to 25. But there will be exceptions to the rule.
The reality: This will require a Constitutional amendment.
Revising the Constitution is no simple task, requiring overwhelming support in Congress and in state legislatures.
Ramaswamy proposes raising voting age to 25,
unless people serve in military or pass a test
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For any of you who are reading this thread because you share a similar interest in the facts related to the US election and its candidates, there is so much coming in that I am finding it hard to keep up in the time I set aside for my own reading and then passing it on here.
I am going to need to do some overtime on this thread ^.^ to be able to post from my backlog, as well as the newer pieces of info I am coming across daily.
The next few days will continue with Vivek Ramaswamy.
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January 6, Capitol riots (2021)
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Jan 2021
A post on twitter. This will be a reference for another comment, below.
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A page from his 2022 book
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Another page in the book
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July 2023
Trump. January 6.
Vivek Ramaswamy: It’s complicated
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2 August 2023
A new explanation
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4 August 2023
Vivek Ramaswamy Can’t Say If He Would Have Certified Election On Jan. 6th Like Pence
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23 August 2023
At the GOP debate, Ramaswamy raised his hand in support of what Mike Pence did in following the Constitution.
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28 August 2023
VR’s Solution
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29 August 2023
Why VR’s claim about what Mike Pence could have done on Jan. 6 is False
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3 Sept 2023
Vivek Ramaswamy’s preposterous attack on Mike Pence
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6 Sept 2023
The latest on this J6 saga.
Returning to the statement in the J6 Capitol-1 link above.
Interview with Mehdi Hassan (a little known show on MSNBC)
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Not related to J6, but the Soros scholarship in the same Hassan interview.
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Since J6 and that March was back in the news headlines with the sentencing of Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio, it has been noted by those keeping track yesterday:
50 plus posts today about himself and 0 about the J6ers who just got sentenced to Years in prison.
The posts below are from a Defence Attorney dealing with J6 clients, so she would know the laws, rules and precedents.
Marina Medvin
There is a thread that follows with details and this.
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The Entrepreneur and his Fortune
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Scroll to the next video in the same link.
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Here Is What Vivek Ramaswamy Wrote To His Employees
After Axovant’s Drug Failed
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The Pharma links up with Covid
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March 2020
Paul & Daisy Soros Fellow Vivek Ramaswamy’s Roivant Sciences
Develops Clinical Stage Antibody
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April 2020
Roivant begins giving experimental COVID-19 drug to first U.S. patients
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April 2020
Ramaswamy company pitched governments on effort
to install universal covid patient records surveillance database
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July 2020
About masks
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China
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Feb 2023
GOP Presidential Candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, Who Used to Do Business With China,
Wants to Ban Business With China
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August 2023
Vivek Ramaswamy cuts off interview
after floating plan to let China attack Taiwan after 2028
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Sept 2023
Vivek Ramaswamy’s campaign dials back his claim he ‘can’t travel to China’
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Flip-flopping
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The GOP debate
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Juneteenth, Climate Change, Israel, 9/11, China-Taiwan
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Life begins …
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Some more clips …..
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Al Sharpton
Pity Sharpton didn’t call him out on his untruth about being the only anti-war candidate.
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I have posted a few in the Open Threads including this one.
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The weight of the Truth
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If required, I will post more info related to Vivek Ramaswamy if something comes up that needs to be posted. But I am closing off the section on him with the Articles/Opinions in this comment.
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7 August 2023
Vivek Ramaswamy:
The MULTI-BILLION Dollar Financial FRAUD
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21 August 2023
Vivek Ramaswamy’s Truth
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30 August 2023
Emulating Trump, Ramaswamy Shows a Penchant for Dispensing With the Facts
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