Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

Hi Cats,

As you can see I have created a copy of the Cat for you to continue to bicker, argue and occasionally make a reasonable point.

I do hope a solution is found with the original Cat but just in case Sinc doesn’t want to transfer the site to a new generation I have built a replica before the closure so we can migrate as many of the community across as possible.

Programming Note: I rushed out the site so there will be bugs. I can get them fixed but did not want perfection to get in the way for progress.

Community Note: Please let as many cats know of the new blog as soon as possible so we can capture the magic of the original. In particular would love for the original posters to continue their great work here.

Ideological Note: I am an infrequent poster but long time reader of the Cat. The discussions there have been a huge part of my own ideological growth on many issues. In particular free speech is key for me so will have a very similar light touch to the original Cat, potentially adopting my one policy on an earlier forum I built: “No D***heads” which is subjective but surprisingly easy to implement.

Website Note: I will run the Cat as close to possible as the original because I don’t believe in re-inventing the wheel. However if the community so wants I am happy to make changes to improve the experience so if you have any ideas let me know. For anything specific hit me up at the contact form, else go nuts in the comments.

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3,112 Responses to Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

  1. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Adam, how can I put it in terms you will understand. Socks abounding here now from trolls. It is like a sustained DOS attack and will kill the site.


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  2. John H. says:

    IThe Mushroom Whisperer says:
    August 4, 2021 at 1:29 pm
    Vicki the plan is to kill us. So obviously anything that might work will be banned. You cannot conduct biowarfare without keeping the antidote for your team and denying it to your targets.

    You mean like the death touch in Men Who Stare at Goats that after 20 years still hasn’t kicked in?


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  3. Mother Lode says:

    Wasn’t there some truism that shepherds start to become like sheep?

    Mushrooms thrive in the dark nourished on bullshit.

    What to make of a Mushroom Whisperer then.


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  4. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Trolls trying to overrun the site. Tedious, but not actionable.

    Bird putting the site in serious disrepute. A problem indeed.


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  5. mh says:

    Graeme, you’re boring.
    You need to get some interests that don’t involve staring at a computer screen.


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  6. Johanna:
    “Also, what’s with declaring the cause of death the next day, when there has to be an inquest. Have they done an autopsy? Again, all very murky.”
    Yes.
    Murky Murky Murky.
    I still haven’t heard of ONE coroners inquest or autopsy done on this illness in Australia.
    Would be pleased to hear of one and see the report.


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  7. candy says:

    True, Lizzie. The anti-Semetism needs to be thrown out immediately.

    Adam’s efforts will be for nothing if that keeps up.


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  8. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    Thank you Gab for your help.

    You can admire just how clever I have just become in my post at 1:23 pm – Italianated ‘n all! 😁


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  9. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    I am going to discuss with Cassie putting a date to the end of this anti-Semitic raving on the Cat we knew and loved. No end, I’m out of here permanently and I will invite others to join in. There is a limit.


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  10. Dot says:

    Alex Jones was right about Atrazine.

    Is there any empirical evidence John Quiggin has ever been right about?

    No.


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  11. mh says:

    Jason Morrison
    @JasonMorrisonAU
    · 4h
    Lifeline recorded its highest ever number of calls in a day on Monday. 3,345 calls for support. Most in 58 years of operation. @7NewsSydney


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  12. struth says:

    What happens when billionaire eugenicists believe in Global warming and that man causes it.


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  13. johanna says:

    ”Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
    August 4, 2021 at 1:39 pm

    Adam, how can I put it in terms you will understand. Socks abounding here now from trolls.”

    In terms you will understand?

    You would have made a great CHO.

    Remember, Adam has said he will implement a ‘no dickheads’ policy. I’d be careful if I were you.


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  14. Terry Pedersen says:

    “Terry Pedersen” gets killed in the rush.

    Lol. Perceptive as always, Tom.

    Glad the Loudhailer, Keeper of the Iron Pyrite Standard, as well as Dr Charnt and Health Hazzard, copped some sustained questioning this morning.

    233 new covid cases in NSW, 141 active in the community while infected. 286 in hospital (up 36), 53 in ICU. 2 deaths (one n his 20s). Worse to come. COVID detected in Newcastle sewage treatment plants from many suburbs.


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  15. candy says:

    “Bird putting the site in serious disrepute. A problem indeed.”

    True, Lizzie.
    The anti-Semitism and anti-vaccine stuff (as opposed to wariness about the COVID vaccine, a more local and contemporary issue), needs to be thrown out. There is also an aggressive tone to it.

    Otherwise all Adam’s efforts will be gone for naught.


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  16. Jorge says:

    Thanks to those posting info on the stats re risk – relative and absolute.

    Very, very useful in discussions/ arguments elsewhere.


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  17. MatrixTransform says:

    Sadly, if nothing is done about the sorts of posting we are seeing

    to be blunt Lizzie, you are just making it worse

    the rallying cries for a posse are just gonna give the guy more kinks


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  18. John H. says:

    “Bird putting the site in serious disrepute. A problem indeed.”

    Never understood antisemitism because the contributions on a per capita basis in Science, the Arts, and Business far exceed any other ethnic group.

    “At least 208 Jexws and people of half- or three-quarters-Jewish ancestry have been awarded the Nobel Prize,1 accounting for 22% of all individual recipients …”


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  19. Lee says:

    “Jason Morrison
    @JasonMorrisonAU
    · 4h
    Lifeline recorded its highest ever number of calls in a day on Monday. 3,345 calls for support. Most in 58 years of operation. @7NewsSydney”

    Not surprised.
    Our Ruling Elite don’t give a stuff for those suffering depression and suicides as a result of lockdowns.


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  20. Terry Pedersen says:

    23 people on ventilators in NSW now. More than 130 of today’s new cases are not linked to known cases. There are now over 530 contact locations in NSW; must be hard for the contact tracers.


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  21. Steve trickler says:

    Just made eye contact with Magpie Mum. We are good for this swooping season. Willy Wagtail Mum and Dad….not sure, they do nap of the earth and aim for your head.


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  22. mh says:

    ‘COVID detected in Newcastle sewage treatment plants from many suburbs.’
    lol
    Grigs, get in the sewer and find that corona.


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  23. shatterzzz says:

    This from Kerry Chant ..
    “We are aware that with COVID you can get sudden deaths and I think that is important to understand that your health status can deteriorate and you can have sudden death with COVID.”
    Who is WE and how often has this happened .. I read a lot and it’s new to me!


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  24. miltonf says:

    Yeah I think the kooks need to be removed. They’re becoming a stain.


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  25. K2 says:

    The eugenicists/global elite/Klaus Schwabs/George Soros/Bill Gates et al do not believe in Climate Change™ . They invented the nonsense as a vehicle to deliver their plans. The Covid-19 horse shit is just a supercharged version of the same thing.

    The only people that would actually believe in Climate Change™ are people further down the food chain; who are the useful idiots needed to drive the agenda. Primarily modern-left indoctrinated groupthinkers. You know the type.

    By not understanding this you are still imbibing Kool Aid.

    Do you think Al Gore was chosen to present “An Inconvenient Psyop” because he believes it? LOL.


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  26. candy says:

    shatterzzz, I was wondering the same thing.

    When did this “sudden death” of COVID come about. It was always weeks of an escalating illness for the vulnerable.


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  27. Steve trickler says:

    The Mushroom Whisperer says:
    August 4, 2021 at 2:03.

    ——–

    I am ready to boot you in the head.


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  28. srr says:

    Offer an obvious solution to the distressed and get shit on. Which makes one think that the final death of ANY open, well read Centre-Right Forum is the actual target. Example –

    “Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare — Today at 13:35
    Yes, the socks are having a field day on the new Cat. They will here too unless Nilk sees them and deletes. I don’t quite know her policy yet. Albatross seems to blow with whatever way the wind blows on this.
    Makes me rather wish that M0nty had taken over. He would have axed the known trolls and maintained Sinc’s site in a state that would not make Sinc ashamed and others chary about being seen there.”

    “rosie — Today at 13:38
    Robbie Mac 6thdan and the rest.
    Grigory doesn’t bother with here because its a small private group
    Sadly quiggin isn’t completely wrong
    Funny the defender of the innocent Germans would risk prison in Germany for holocaust denial.
    I remember grig had set up a twitter account under libby zee? and posted a comment thanking tunnel bear. I found it and linked to the old cat. Tweet got deleted. Too late, calli remembered the details.
    Im pretty sure Macbeth candy and p are all part of his stable. Candy and p for repeatedly saying how lovely grigs was and Macbeth for appearing shortly after grigs once told p Macbeth no doubt be along shortly to help her out with a query. Plus Macbeth once claimed to be losing sight and hearing then next time amended that to sight. Also a 99 year old world war two veteran who always pops up when he gets a mention on the cat. I dont think so.”

    “srr — Today at 13:53
    Well monty is experienced in running his fantasy footy thingo, why not have him run “A Cat” & everyone unhappy with the current sites just join him there?
    :slight_smile:”

    “rosie — Today at 13:55
    @Lizzie well he would have to get an appropriate domain name. I think dot gathered most of those up. I don’t know that dot would be keen to join forces with Monty plus there is a significant work load I don’t think Monty will follow through tbh
    I’d give Adam a little more time if I were you. A smite will remove the fungal infection in one fell swoop”

    “srr — Today at 13:57
    There you go; you can be chief sock spotter & fellow mod, kick out all those unpopular posters; finally have control of a site you really like. All your Cat friends will no doubt join you. It’s bound to boom.
    :sunglasses: :thumbsup:”

    “rosie — Today at 13:59
    https://discord.com/channels/870154322476945408/870154322476945411/872327967924174928 “


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  29. John H. says:

    People speculate on some long term risk from the vaccines. That risk involves an unspecified time, an unspecified pathology, an unspecified cause, an unspecified susceptible population, and an unspecified mortality. I didn’t realise that so many here love the precautionary principle.


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  30. Carpe Jugulum says:

    “Most vaccines are a fraud and always have been.”

    Ok, put down the bottle of Valu-Rite vodka and move away from the keyboard.


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  31. Goanna says:

    Craig Kelly Independent is posting hard hitting comment on Telegram.
    Good on him.


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  32. Carpe Jugulum says:

    “The Mushroom Whisperer says:
    August 4, 2021 at 2:14 pm”
    _____________________

    More rantings from the insane.


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  33. Old School Conserative says:

    Mick Gold Coast QLD says:
    August 4, 2021 at 1:23 pm
    I would appreciate some guidance on how to install my avatar (“Endless Summer” film poster) image

    That advice has already been provided.
    You reeeeally missed it, you should’ve been here yesterday. 🏄🏻‍♂️


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  34. Eyrie says:

    Yeah, John H., lets fuel up that first example brand new Boeing jet design and fly it across the Pacific for its first flight.
    Or we can carefully test it while gradually expanding the flight envelope with minimal crew on board so the risk is minimised.


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  35. John H. says:

    The Mushroom Whisperer says:
    August 4, 2021 at 2:14 pm
    “Never understood antisemitism because the contributions on a per capita basis in Science, the Arts, and Business far exceed any other ethnic group.”

    Thats easy. They put the fix in with the awards process and if they have any real talent they get the funds behind them. They pass off one nonsensical idea after another and call it science. So gravity is space bending? “Give that man a nobel prize.”
    —
    That which is presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.


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  36. srr says:

    WOW!
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
    August 4, 2021 at 1:28 pm
    “Catallaxy was an early example of the decline of libertarianism into what we can now call Trumpism. […] a toxic mix of racism, misogyny and conspiracy theories […]”

    Just WOW!
    That is straight out of the US Democrat Dictatorship Playbook.


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  37. Terry Pedersen says:

    I was wondering the same thing.

    When did this “sudden death” of COVID come about. It was always weeks of an escalating illness for the vulnerable.

    You haven’t been watching. I mentioned it, more than once, weeks ago on the now dead and gone catallaxyfiles.com. As I said then, a person can be feeling well in the morning and be needing a ventilator to stay alive later that same day.


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  38. rickw says:

    You haven’t been watching. I mentioned it, more than once, weeks ago on the now dead and gone catallaxyfiles.com. As I said then, a person can be feeling well in the morning and be needing a ventilator to stay alive later that same day.

    You need to pretty much be a doughnut inhaling slob for that to happen.


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  39. Cold-Hands says:

    Mick Gold Coast QLD says:
    August 4, 2021 at 1:23 pm
    I would appreciate some guidance on how to install my avatar (“Endless Summer” film poster) image.
    Associate the image with your email address at gravatar.
    That’s it.


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  40. John H. says:

    Eyrie says:
    August 4, 2021 at 2:25 pm
    Yeah, John H., lets fuel up that first example brand new Boeing jet design and fly it across the Pacific for its first flight.
    Or we can carefully test it while gradually expanding the flight envelope with minimal crew on board so the risk is minimised.

    Misleading analogy. The vaccines have been developed very quickly but not as much as people assume. mRNA technology is nearly 30 years in development. If you have a problem with the speed of development take that up with Trump’s Warp Speed strategy.

    “The scientists I spoke to aren’t sure where the “seven or eight years” rule comes from. Most phase-three vaccine trials – that’s the big one you do before you apply to roll it out – follow up volunteers for just 12 months, Jim Buttery, head of signal investigation at Victoria’s immunisation safety service, tells me.”
    …
    “Of 57 vaccines approved by the US since 1996, the median safety follow-up was 1½ months. Yet only one had to be withdrawn from the market for safety reasons; at the same time, these vaccines cut the incidence of common viruses such as polio and measles by more than 90 per cent.”


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  41. twostix says:

    More than 130 of today’s new cases are not linked to known cases

    Couldn’t be that the mass-testing regime itself produces an infinitesimally small number of ‘cases’ compare to the tests done, through mis-identification of the flu and other coronaviruses and a handful of false positives out of the hundred thousand tests done a day in somewhat less than clinical conditions anything.

    No, better to imagine that ‘covid19’ magics itself into existence like they’re trying to tell us it has in a Brisbane schoolkid and keeps doing in Sydney.


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  42. DrBeauGan says:

    TailGunner quite explicitly said that the holocaust didn’t happen. Some of us pointed to the evidence, and he stopped making the claim. This is exactly what ought to happen, someone makes an idiotic claim and others refute it with evidence. I don’t think that holocaust denial should be a crime, I think we should be free to say stupid ignorant things, and others should point out the facts. That way, we get the option on learning, although not everyone will.


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  43. Carpe Jugulum says:

    “The Mushroom Whisperer says:
    August 4, 2021 at 2:32 pm”
    ______________________

    Move away from the keyboard before you self harm, you mouth breathing loon.


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  44. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Just made eye contact with Magpie Mum. We are good for this swooping season.

    Went outside a short time ago, there was a new kooka in the big camellia near the front door. I looked at her and she looked at me, then she decamped to a safer branch in the jacaranda.

    So in an experiment I tossed a bit of meat onto the carport roof near where a currawong was perching. Wham! She knew what Coles mince is, did she ever. Several more lumps of mince and she was a happy new Cafe Bruce customer, although she wouldn’t tolerate me within about 5 m.

    She (gender assumption warning) is the second new kookaburra I’ve seen in a week. Another one turned up who was already so acclimatized to humans she allowed me to hand feed her on the back fence the very first time.

    I suspect whatever goes for kookaburra Tinder is active. The Cafe kooka lost his mate this year and is a fine prospect.


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  45. Barking Toad says:

    According to the Oz paywall 27 year old fork lift driver received a day before he passed out in his Liverpool apartment and died.

    Covid?

    Of course!


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  46. rickw says:

    Adam, how can I put it in terms you will understand. Socks abounding here now from trolls. It is like a sustained DOS attack and will kill the site.

    Given that Adam rescued the Cat a couple of days ago in short order and that it has been somewhat wobbly since being thrown together, it is quite possible that an effective smite function does not exist, and it would be detrimental to highlight at this point in time that it does not exist.


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  47. dover_beach says:

    Caldron Pool
    @CaldronPool
    · 45m
    The family said he had no significant symptoms. “No coughing, nothing,” his wife said.

    “Paramedics who responded to the emergency reportedly confirmed that he suffered heart failure, whereas the hospital specified that Covid was a contributing factor in his death.”

    In other words, he died with COVID.


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  48. srr says:

    K2 says:
    August 4, 2021 at 2:05 pm
    “[…] et al do not believe in Climate Change™ . They invented the nonsense as a vehicle to deliver their plans.[…]

    Their first great success was appointing the then Prince, now King Willem Alexander as The World Water Czar, and low and behold, he succeeded in CONvincing the world that this mostly water covered planet was going to run out of water.

    All they had to do was mismanage our abundant fresh water, like not allowing new dams to be built and bingo, next thing you know Greenie Idiots are murdering old men who dared water their garden.

    Greenies = The Green Man = Demonic


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  49. Barking Toad says:

    Received “a negative test”.

    FFS read before before you post


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  50. twostix says:

    Moderna couldn’t get a single product through clinical trials until 2020 then something something magically happened and now it’s cutting edge biotech platform is everywhere and totally well understood and safe and ancient technology and don’t ask what happened in the clinical trials that failed in all markets from 2009-2020.


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  51. Carpe Jugulum says:

    The Mushroom Whisperer says:
    August 4, 2021 at 2:41 pm

    Come up with something better than that Carpe you low IQ twat…””
    ______________________________________________

    I don’t need to be highbrow with a rambling nutbag, go to bed you are either drunk or experiencing the effects of amateur pharmacology.


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