Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

Hi Cats,

As you can see I have created a copy of the Cat for you to continue to bicker, argue and occasionally make a reasonable point.

I do hope a solution is found with the original Cat but just in case Sinc doesn’t want to transfer the site to a new generation I have built a replica before the closure so we can migrate as many of the community across as possible.

Programming Note: I rushed out the site so there will be bugs. I can get them fixed but did not want perfection to get in the way for progress.

Community Note: Please let as many cats know of the new blog as soon as possible so we can capture the magic of the original. In particular would love for the original posters to continue their great work here.

Ideological Note: I am an infrequent poster but long time reader of the Cat. The discussions there have been a huge part of my own ideological growth on many issues. In particular free speech is key for me so will have a very similar light touch to the original Cat, potentially adopting my one policy on an earlier forum I built: “No D***heads” which is subjective but surprisingly easy to implement.

Website Note: I will run the Cat as close to possible as the original because I don’t believe in re-inventing the wheel. However if the community so wants I am happy to make changes to improve the experience so if you have any ideas let me know. For anything specific hit me up at the contact form, else go nuts in the comments.

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3,112 Responses to Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

  1. Indolent says:

    “”The eugenicists/global elite/Klaus Schwabs/George Soros/Bill Gates et al do not believe in Climate Change™ . They invented the nonsense as a vehicle to deliver their plans.””
    This is actually provable. I had a paper (long since lost) of a report on a meeting in, I think in Austria, in the 1960s chaired by Maurice Strong where they were discussing how to bring capitalism down, and wasn’t it their duty to do so! I thing that’s when they plumbed for CO2 as the method. If you recall, originally it was to be global cooling but the normal weather pattern stymied that so they went for warming. Now they just go for whatever actually happens. No evidence required. Anyone who still “believes in” (sounds religious, doesn’t it) climate change after climategate lifted the curtain is just not looking or very bright.

    I didn’t realise until later that the ozone hole scam was just a dry run for this. And very profitable it was, too, forcing companies to change to more expensive and volatile gasses to “save the planet”.


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  2. m0nty says:

    Understood, but it isn’t just that, curating a blog also involves ferreting out new writers, content, etc.

    I hadn’t thought that far, to be honest. Let’s just get something going which works without bugs and doesn’t feature constant blood libels of the sons of Abraham, then we can get to the other stuff.


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  3. Speedbox says:

    dover_beach says:
    August 4, 2021 at 4:02 pm

    ….curating a blog also involves ferreting out new writers, content, etc.

    Eliciting varied contributions is a constant requisite. Even more time will be spent on sourcing other content. A blog, especially one that is moderately successful, is a lot more than just sitting back and occasionally moderating the more lunatic posts on an OT.


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  4. Figures says:

    “Ok, put down the bottle of Valu-Rite vodka and move away from the keyboard.”

    You’re right. He should have said “*all* vaccines are a fraud”.

    You cannot acquire immunity to viruses because they do not infect us on an acute basis. Indeed immunity isn’t just impossible but a category error.

    The moment doctors discovered viral “infection” wasn’t typically (if ever) acute they should have abandoned the concept of immunity (and hence vaccination). Indeed they should have jettisoned germ theory entirely.

    They didn’t. Because disease medicine is a cult.

    You guys have seen the effects of this cult like thinking steamrolling all logic the past 18 months.

    I’ve seen it for decades.

    Welcome to reality. You probably won’t like it.


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  5. min says:

    Story on iPhone re 27 year old death was wife an aged care worker got it , he was tested and negative , next day dead in hospital.


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  6. MatrixTransform says:

    Novavax delivery to Australia has been deferred until next year

    dont tell me …

    the Russians want to do it
    but that they’re not allowed
    yet


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  7. areff says:

    Dan, in case you haven’t noticed it, there’s a handy blocking function in WordPress.

    Go to the menu in the left gutter, click on SETTINGS, then DISCUSSION. Scroll down when the page loads and you’ll find two boxes ready to be filled with banned words and, in the second, offenders’ URLS.

    Simple, easy and, judging by some of the brains posting their thoughts today, overdue to be used.


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  8. Vicki says:

    “I’m hoping Novavax arrives soon.”

    Yep – Rorschach & Bruce of Newcastle, me too. I have been hoping that this would be an acceptable choice ever since the govt put it on the list.

    However, it appears that the company has not brought a previous product to fruition (!) & they currently have “production” issues. Geez, our CSL could have helped them out if this was the problem. Something is not quite right. Even the US Stock Exchange is not sure which way to go on Novavax.

    What do we “vaccine sceptics” (not “hesitant”) have left?

    As much as it pains me to say, I am actually glad to hear (despite that Mushroom person’s cryptic comments) that Pfizer is keenly developing the antiviral agent which sounds suspiciously like an Ivermectin type early treatment.

    Yes, it is infuriating, since we know why that this is “suddenly” being pursued, just as we know why Merck (who developed Ivermectin) is also said to be developing ANOTHER similar type of product……the DOLLARS from a brand new patent.

    But hell, if it means I can easily procure an early treatment (or even prophylactic) against the virus… what the hell. The truth is that, barring administering our cattle’s Ivermectin pour-on drench, it is damn near impossible to procure Ivermectin (as in, for example, Stromectol) online without an accompanying prescription.


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  9. egg_ says:

    “I didn’t realise until later that the ozone hole scam was just a dry run for this. And very profitable it was, too, forcing companies to change to more expensive and volatile gasses to “save the planet”.”

    Oddly enough, CO2 is a good refrigerant and fully meets any UN Ozone Directorate future requirements, if you check their recommendations.


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  10. egg_ says:

    UN Ozone Secretariat


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  11. rickw says:

    I don’t “like Monty’s effort” because it is an attack on the Cat and all its users. He is a collectivist zombie. He loathes liberty and all its creations, like the Cat.

    Infiltrate, gut, wear as skin suit.


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  12. Steve trickler says:

    Strap yourself in. Tighten the belts.

    VFA-143 2019-2020 WORLD TOUR


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  13. Speedbox says:

    areff says:
    August 4, 2021 at 4:19 pm

    +1


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  14. yarpos says:

    “People speculate on some long term risk from the vaccines. That risk involves an unspecified time, an unspecified pathology, an unspecified cause, an unspecified susceptible population, and an unspecified mortality. I didn’t realise that so many here love the precautionary principle.”

    Conveniently leaves out the experimental, no liability , new technology approach , global field trial aspects from which any number of concerns may reasonably arise. Methinks people are using rational thought rather than being lead by the nose by politicians and the media.


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  15. DrBeauGan says:

    “Infiltrate, gut, wear as skin suit.”

    That may or may not be the agenda. I wouldn’t put it past him to try it, but it won’t work. I’m happy to give him his chance to try, if that’s his aim.


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  16. Rorschach says:

    Pfizer is keenly developing the antiviral agent which sounds suspiciously like an Ivermectin type early treatment …

    … Merck (who developed Ivermectin) is also said to be developing ANOTHER similar type of product

    Cash Cow #2. Saturate the market with poorly functioning vaccines that [inevitably] cause the original virus strain to mutate, and then come up with a treatment. [something like an ivermectin / hydroxychloroquinie with antibiotics and steroid cocktail]

    And charge $150 a course on the Public Health plans [or better yet get the Govt to lock in bulk buy contracts for 20 years worth … which can then be destroyed on the quiet like the Tamiflu stockpiles] 🙂


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  17. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Disease medicine is not a cult. It is about the eternal fight in our bodies between our immune system and various environmental pathogens known viruses and bacteria. Disease can also be caused by degenerative, auto-immune and genetic failures, as well as by a collapse of our immune defenses when pathogens invade or physiological deblity defeats our immune response.


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  18. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    srr upthread somewhere attributes to me a quotation I offered from a well-known lefty called John Quiggin, who once had some association with the early Catallaxy.

    Please look to see the inverted commas in future, srr. They mean I am quoting someone, not putting forward my own words.


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  19. Terry Pedersen says:

    Latest information on the 27 year old who died from COVID is that he suddenly started coughing uncontrollably, then vomiting, then died.


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  20. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “Pfizer is keenly developing the antiviral agent which sounds suspiciously like an Ivermectin type early treatment …

    … Merck (who developed Ivermectin) is also said to be developing ANOTHER similar type of product”

    Well call me prescient. With my crystal ball to hand.

    I predicted this would happen quite a while ago now.


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  21. Franx says:

    Hm. “… check on our friends … . Without speaking with them.


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  22. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    The appalling denier of the racist murders of six million Jewish people in a hideous industrial genocide is still spouting forth nonsense about that on this site.

    I live in hope that this horrific trolling can be ceased soon.


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  23. Libby Zee says:

    Old Lizzie Few Friends,

    It looks like m0nty’s Feral Cats would be the ideal blog for you and your few friends. From what he has said there will be no anti-Semitic comments allowed. And the name suits you few just perfectly.


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  24. Franx says:

    The fungal spore has a debilitating fixation.


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  25. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “Latest information on the 27 year old who died from COVID is that he suddenly started coughing uncontrollably, then vomiting, then died.”

    That’s exactly how sudden deaths happened with young people in the 1919-21 Spanish influenza too. They also had red blood from their lungs coming up with the coughing.

    I still wait to hear whether this young man with a suceptibility to heart problems died of a heart attack too. Also, some pathology on the lungs to determine Covid-like alveoli.


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  26. struth says:

    No , you are right, they may not believe in Climate Change per se, and of course in the heart they know it’s crop but deusional megalomaniacs talk themselves into believing their own lies enough to justify their actions.
    Either way I’m glad you took something from the Video Old Bloke, and i hope it made you think twice….that’s experts and facts. And it makes everything perfectly understandable.
    Although this is knew to the history of the world, it’s quite feasible as to how it can be happening.

    So I present what Klaus Schwab says, what Jane Halton is up to, the real side of the story some want to believe is conspiracy theory.

    But now I openly admit I’m going to add a theory of my own of which I have no proof, but does anyone find it quite unsurprising the Joooos, (Israel) is the most death jabbed country on earth and now they’re giving them a third booster?
    That is an admitted conspiracy theory because unlike what else I report, I have no proof.
    But it does seem strange, dunnit?


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  27. kaysee says:

    NSW: Kill Bill (Part 2)

    Part 1 was two years ago, when they decided it was ok to get rid of the clump of cells in the womb.

    Part 2 is getting rid of the old and feeble clumps of cells.

    1/ Sign and share:
    Euthanasia Bill – petition

    2/ Email/write to your NSW State Member of Parliament and ask them to oppose the introduction of these dangerous laws. Sample email/letter

    Dear Minister ………..,

    The media is reporting that a euthanasia bill will be tabled in Parliament this month. As one of your constituents, I ask that you oppose any attempts to legalise euthanasia assisted suicide in NSW. I also think the government should be focusing on getting us all out of this crisis, rather than devoting parliamentary time to this.

    Thanks,
    [name]


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  28. srr says:

    “incoherent rambler says:
    August 4, 2021 at 3:57 pm

    ‘Vegans exempt from compulsory Covid vaccinations, legal experts warn (31 Jul)’

    As it should be, if I am eating vegans, I need to know that they are unadulterated.”

    Well Vegans have been aborting babies at a rate of knots since long before they started using aborted babies in developing drugs, so ….


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  29. egg_ says:

    “Latest information on the 27 year old who died from COVID is that he suddenly started coughing uncontrollably, then vomiting, then died.”

    27 y.o. died with Delta?

    Is Delta now ManBearPig?


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  30. struth says:

    Sorry about the spelling, Mrs Struth in my ear…………..


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  31. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Old Lizzie Few Friends,”

    I am pretty sure Lizzie has more friends than you.

    And clearly Nasty Zee……you don’t have a problem with anti-Semitism.


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  32. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “Like me Elizabeth.”

    You deserve and require every amount of vitriol and abuse that I can muster, Graeme, for you are turning this site into a quagmire of anti-Semitic nonsense as well as Holocaust denial. You are a savage, a fool, a ruined intellect, an incompetent, an unpleasant piece of work, an ineffective researcher, a follower of nonsense, a purveyor of illegitimacy in science, a brutalising influence, a force for the bad, the current face of a great human evil and a lonely mentally ill man. Take your meds and review your addiction to sites of criminal negligence in intelligence, learning, history and sanity.


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  33. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Well Vegans have been aborting babies at a rate of knots since long before they started using aborted babies in developing drugs, so …”

    What a load of rubbish.


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  34. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Slimey Griggsy Zee, I am here at the moment. Take that as read.

    Now don’t expect me to reply to you any further. You are an idle pest.

    I am a busy woman.


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  35. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    There was no general vaccine against influenza in 1919-21, only some rare experimental ones. Those were early days in viral recognition.

    Vaccines are good. Be glad we have them.
    Even if you don’t want the current Covid ones.


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  36. Diogenes says:

    Exactly. Another vaccine holocaust.

    OK you have the claim. Which one?


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  37. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Engaging with Bird (obsessed anti-Semite), and Grigs of the Sox (mostly harmless) is a waste of time and pixels.


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  38. JC says:

    Cuomo sounds totally fucked. mh reported on it earlier today.

    https://nypost.com/2021/08/03/these-are-the-women-who-were-sexually-harassed-by-andrew-cuomo-ag/

    You gotta laugh, the kiddie fondler in chief, Joe Hiden is even telling him to resign. Not because of acting badly, but because he was caught.


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  39. Old School Conservative says:

    Adam, all your good work is being undone by a Holocaust denying loon.
    His point of view is extreme, factually incorrect, and associates him with crimes against humanity.
    Ban him now.
    Let him try to exercise his freedom of speech in newspapers, current affairs shows, Twitter, and Facebook. Hell, he could even post ultra-distressing photos of corpses on Pinterest and say “this didn’t happen!”

    Just not here.
    Please.


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  40. struth says:

    My real conspiracy theories would also include why killing babies was made legal very quickly before the coup d’etat and so did euthanasia get the emergency legislation treatment as well.
    Global elites injecting people with something that is not a vaccine while being indemnified while in 2019 Victorian Police became ultra weaponised especially for street battles.
    Millions were spent.
    Coincidences?
    Who knows?
    However, you are not injecting a vaccine into you.
    That’s a fact.
    It doesn’t work as a vaccine.
    No one except those dying of something else, die of covid.
    Facts.
    With covid is declared without ever there being an autopsy.
    People killed in Motorcycle accidents and being shot in the head are covid deaths.
    Old people that die from the jab die of old age.
    Old people that die before being jabbed die of covid.
    Facts.
    But I note still some here worry about covid.
    FMD.
    99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of people survive covid.
    You don’t pass on germs unless your sick.
    Facts.
    Cases without symptoms are not cases, they are propaganda,….fear porn.
    Facts.

    Why have they gone all out with the death jab on Jews?
    Conspiracy theory.


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  41. kaysee says:

    Bruce of Newcastle says:
    August 3, 2021 at 6:07 pm

    I wonder what he’ll do when he finds out that punters are leaving their phones in their cars when they go to a supermarket?

    At the entrance to Woolies is an employee with an electronic gadget taking down your details if you don’t have a QR code phone. The government has put the onus on businesses to comply or else they will face a huge fine.

    Legally, is all this permitted? Can you be forced to give your details? If it was writing in a book, you can scribble Mickey Mouse. But with the store employee actually tapping in the details, what is the option? And now they want security guards?

    Coles has these big screen security cameras at the entrance so someone must be monitoring who is scanning and who isn’t.

    Who is calling the shots in NSW, anyway? Police Minister? Health Minister? CHO? 2GeeBee? Premier?


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  42. John H. says:

    “yarpos says:
    August 4, 2021 at 4:33 pm
    “People speculate on some long term risk from the vaccines. That risk involves an unspecified time, an unspecified pathology, an unspecified cause, an unspecified susceptible population, and an unspecified mortality. I didn’t realise that so many here love the precautionary principle.”

    Conveniently leaves out the experimental, no liability , new technology approach , global field trial aspects from which any number of concerns may reasonably arise. Methinks people are using rational thought rather than being lead by the nose by politicians and the media.”

    Vaccine technology is 100 years old, mRNA technology 30 years old. Liability is an issue not just for COVID vaccine but all vaccines. Trials have been conducted. Methinks getting your facts straight is rational. Assuming that because people choose to be vaccinated they are being sucked in is a remarkably supercilious attitude.

    There are hundreds if not thousands of chemicals released into the environment and some present in our bodies which have not been subject to any testing, not even for basic toxicity, so perhaps you should think about wrapping yourself up in a big bubble.


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  43. Cold-Hands says:

    Bird needs at least a month timeout. His unsubstantiated racist rantings (since when are Slavs Asiatic?), are taking up too many column inches of the new Cat, making scrolling a chore.


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  44. Diogenes says:

    have the claim
    oops made the claim.
    You don’t have many to choose from, and explain the mechanism by which piss poor islanders (eg Samoa) who had never seen a vaccine needle succumbed as well.


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  45. Steve trickler says:
  46. mh says:

    Another purpose of Q is to make those questioning media narratives look like twats through a false association with Qanon.

    That’s the role Graeme Bird is playing.


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  47. srr says:

    For years, The Cat Cry of, “Start Your Own Blog!”, has gone out.

    Now we’ve had at least 3, 4, 5? start a New Cat before the Old Cat’s body was cold, but sure enough they instantly got hit with BOTH people making illegal statements and Curtin Twitches loudly dobbing on every “Illegal” word, and demanding the banning of everyone they don’t like.

    Meanwhile, important, current real world issues that do manage to get posted are soon buried under the, “Tut Tut, This Behaviour Will Never Do”, crowd’s THREATS that “someone” will have the sites shuts down if the Tut-Tutter’s standards aren’t strictly adhered to.

    All up, I see what I saw at The Old Cat; a concerted effort to END OPEN Centre-Right Discussions on Australian Forums.


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  48. Gab says:

    Graeme Bird doing his utmost to get this blog shut down.


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  49. srr says:

    struth says:
    August 4, 2021 at 5:16 pm
    […]
    “Why have they gone all out with the death jab on Jews?
    Conspiracy theory.”

    I’ve mentioned before that years ago I crossed paths with someone working on a counter to bioweapons designed to target Jews.

    All that ’23 & Me’, et al is NOT so we can trace long lost rich relatives and an inheritance we’re due for …


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  50. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    srr, I see you are taking Johanna’s lead on the matter of blog moderation.
    ie. it’s all my fault and I need to watch my back or I’m out.

    lol


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  51. kaysee says:

    Cardimona says:

    Queenslander Cats

    Allan Ballard, a friend of a friend, has started a petition to the Queensland Government on the subject of the PCR test.

    https://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/work-of-assembly/petitions/petition-details?id=3589

    Why not an e-petition to the Federal Government, too? That should get a higher number of signatures.


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