Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

Hi Cats,

As you can see I have created a copy of the Cat for you to continue to bicker, argue and occasionally make a reasonable point.

I do hope a solution is found with the original Cat but just in case Sinc doesn’t want to transfer the site to a new generation I have built a replica before the closure so we can migrate as many of the community across as possible.

Programming Note: I rushed out the site so there will be bugs. I can get them fixed but did not want perfection to get in the way for progress.

Community Note: Please let as many cats know of the new blog as soon as possible so we can capture the magic of the original. In particular would love for the original posters to continue their great work here.

Ideological Note: I am an infrequent poster but long time reader of the Cat. The discussions there have been a huge part of my own ideological growth on many issues. In particular free speech is key for me so will have a very similar light touch to the original Cat, potentially adopting my one policy on an earlier forum I built: “No D***heads” which is subjective but surprisingly easy to implement.

Website Note: I will run the Cat as close to possible as the original because I don’t believe in re-inventing the wheel. However if the community so wants I am happy to make changes to improve the experience so if you have any ideas let me know. For anything specific hit me up at the contact form, else go nuts in the comments.

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3,112 Responses to Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

  1. mh says:

    Biden gets it right, possibly for the wrong reasons:

    Breaking911
    @Breaking911
    ·
    3h
    PRES. BIDEN: “I think [Cuomo] should resign”

    https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1422661349302226947?s=20


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  2. Top Ender says:

    Peter Slipper’s surprise midnight visit to Melbourne church

    Canberra reject Peter Slipper can now add “Bishop of Australia” to his CV, alongside failed politician. Andrew Rule and Mark Buttler with the latest crime buzz.

    Peter Slipper has been ordained as “Bishop of Australia” by the Brazilian Catholic Apostolic Church.

    Time slips away and so does Peter Slipper, alias “Slippery Pete”, the former Parliamentary Speaker who left Canberra a decade ago under a cloud of interesting allegations, some about using taxpayer funds for taxi fares running into thousands of dollars.

    Exactly what Slippery got up to is not so much secret as folklore among political groupies. His CV is now as chequered as Jacob’s coat of many colours — a Biblical reference that Slippery will get because as well as being a barrister and failed politician, he has dabbled in exotic religious denominations for years.

    In his latest incarnation, the one-time High Anglican has been ordained as “Bishop of Australia” by the Brazilian Catholic Apostolic Church.

    In that capacity, perhaps, he has made a surprise appearance at a Melbourne church.

    Bishop Pete, now 71, attended a midnight mass at the St Paraskevi Greek Orthodox Church in St Albans, which is split on issues including the future of parish priest Irinaos Koikas.

    It is not clear whether he was there to give spiritual guidance or legal advice to Fr Koikas, who is facing moves to move him on.

    Bishop Slippery declined to elaborate on his involvement when contacted by probing Herald Sun political scribe Kieran Rooney.

    But Fr Koikas is clearly grateful, judging from a post on the church Facebook site, accompanying photos of Bishop Slippery’s midnight appearance.

    “I would like to make special mention of my dear friend, the Hon. Peter Slipper, former Speaker of the House of Representatives of Australia and Bishop of the Brazilian Apostolic church in Australia who came and attended our Resurrection service all the way from the Sunshine Coast,” Fr Koikas gushed.

    “I thank him for his attendance and his personal friendship for some time now. As well as his duties as Bishop, he is also a much-respected barrister in Queensland and Hobart.”

    Not everyone is so happy.

    The church’s community president Georgina Papafotiou resigned in May. Ms Papafotiou, a former Brimbank Council Mayor, has declined to comment.

    It is rising 10 years since Slippery was in the headlines for the wrong reasons.

    Back then, one of his parliamentary colleagues told the Herald Sun: “I don’t want to be the focus of a vendetta against him but the bloke is an absolute weirdo and a nut.”

    After that, the fellow Queenslander really sank the slipper into Bishop Pete. Who is now, incidentally, also Brazil’s consul to Tasmania.

    There is a joke there about the Bishop and the map of Tassie but we’re not touching it with a barge pole. Herald-Sun


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  3. srr says:

    White People Are Posing as Non-White People for Clout
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=478bRUGzElc&t=196s
    Aug 4, 2021
    The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters


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  4. twostix says:

    Not sure about the conservative adoration for Blainey, read some of his books, reads like late 1980′-1990’s era university activist ideas packaged up into dry, sniffy but palatable to upper middle class conservative 2000’s form.

    “Captain Cook didn’t even discover Australia so suck that patriotic losers!” in 1985, 30 years later becomes “and ere on the great eve of the great navigator Cook’s exploration of the coast of Australia that had already been explored forty times by ten different superior explorers whose exploits I will carefully detail here, did johnny-come-lately Cook finally see an area that was decided by various previous explorers from all over the earth was of no significant value to anyone…”, etc, etc.

    If he survived long enough in 20 years he’d be writing books about the foundation of Sydney and the unconventional approval of gay marriage there.

    Also he’s also ultimately responsible for the creation of the abominable national museum.

    I get that there’s literally zero actual sensible historians any more so you take what you can get, but at least see it for what it is.


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  5. struth says:

    Libertijiblets, get with the program. We dubunked that bullshit site last year.


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  6. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    What is the point of that that comment all in Islamic writing? It takes you to a site where I clicked on English but was none the wiser.


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  7. woolfe says:

    Good news for travelers. Perth – LHR one way $10,000 plus $3,000 quarantine. No guarantees on flight.


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  8. mh says:

    Jimmy Dore’s Experience with Vaccine Side Effects
    (Joe Rogan)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiLGSVH_UPA


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  9. Vicki says:

    Sorry if you have already been alerted to this.

    The Daily Telegraph published a story 3 days ago (sorry, am not a subscriber, so cannot access) claiming that Greg Hunt is expected to sign a new contract with Pfizer within days that will supply Australia with Pfizer’s shortly to be released “anti-viral” tablet therapy for Covid infections.

    Pfizer has been developing this treatment (similar, it seems to Ivermectin) – probably recognising that the punters will baulk at requiring regular “boosters” for their vaccine which has a short life efficacy of just months.

    I wonder if Hunt has known all along that vaccines are of dubious worth. I understand that Dr. Tom Borody, who has developed a triple drug treatment with Ivermectin as its mainstay, has approached Hunt with his study. I also suspect that contract arrangements with Pfizer probably prevented the official approval of Ivermectin, as has probably been the case throughout the western world.

    They may go slow on it, however, foe fear it will discourage the “hesitant” from relenting and accepting vaccination.

    https:www.pfizer.com/…pfizer-initiates-phase-1-study-oral-antiviral

    https://verywellhealth.com/pfizer-developing-covid-19-at-home-treatment-pill-5184029

    https://pfizer.com/science/coronavirus/antiviral-efforts


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  10. Lizzie:
    “It does indeed. Hate to get conspiratorial, but I wonder what they knew or saw.”
    This is what happens when governments lose the trust of the people – they start to question.
    I also am suspicious of these ‘suicides’. It sounds like they were Arkancided. I wonder what they knew?
    Perhaps they should have left a stashed document somewhere…


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  11. srr says:

    “– https://theconversation.com/whats-the-delta-plus-variant-and-can-it-escape-vaccines-an-expert-explains-163644
    This site is rapidly becoming bullshit central.”

    Becoming?
    The Conversation has been bullshitting central from it’s conception.
    🙂


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  12. Top Ender says:

    Young going all out for the post of Australia’s post idiotic CMO:

    Queensland’s top doctor has bizarrely called for locked-down residents to not even order online shopping for the rest of the week.

    Chief health officer Jeannette Young told locals to ask themselves if they ‘really needed’ to even open their front door, go to the supermarket, or buy furniture online.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9858329/Queensland-Covid-outbreak-continues-grow-19-new-cases-announced.html


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  13. K2 says:

    Libertijiberrjabber sounds like Bob.


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  14. srr says:

    It’s not Islamic –

    TELUGU
    Majority: Hinduism
    నిజ సమయంలో తాజా వెబ్ వార్తలు
    Translation – Latest web news in real time

    One of the articles at the site –
    When, Why, How and How Not to Start Investing in Cryptocurrencies
    2021-08-04 Blockchain …

    When, Why, How and How Should I Start Starting Investing in Cryptocurrencies, Victor Kochetov, Kirex CEO, Digital Wallet and Professional Cryptocurrency Trading Platform, I shed light on crypto investing, leading illusions and sound investment methods. Around crypto …


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  15. Vicki says:

    “SMH:
    Wealthy pockets of Sydney and Melbourne have some of the country’s highest vaccination rates, while poorer parts of Sydney’s west and south hit hardest by the latest outbreak have among the lowest coverage in NSW.”

    I live part of my life in northern Sydney (although very little over the last 18 months & not in the foreseeable future) & I can tell you why they have a very high vax rate. Yes – there are many, particularly around Mosman/Cremorne/Neutral Bay etc who are in the older age group. But many other parts of Nth Sydney – e.g. Crows Nest, McMahons Point etc are populated by young careerists in advertising, marketing,”human resources” etc etc. Both groups are very into LIFESTYLE. They especially like to travel OS and to populate the many cafes, restaurants, gyms etc in the district.

    Lockdown is definitely NOT THEIR STYLE. Consequently,they are jumping over each other to get vaccinated in the forlorn hope that will allow them to live the life of old.

    The Northern Beaches, which has a lower rate of vaccination, are populated by people who are very very content with the lifestyle of their locale – primarily a beach orientated life. They are much more “laid back” and less likely to move out of their much loved areas. There are also a lot of laid -back “tradies” who are fairly typically Australian sceptics.


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  16. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “Pertains not so much to people displaying flags and such, but also to collectors. I have three edged weapons in my collection which would have to be destroyed if it ever happened.”

    Never destroy. Donate to a museum if they really do come after your collection, although I think a case may be made for private collections by validated historians. There’s a private museum we visited in Norway that is full of this sort of stuff.


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  17. mh says:

    Pauline Hanson ‘CENSORED’ for saying things that are “not government approved” | FULL AUDIO

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptMkIpVvJ54


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  18. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Libertijibbit says:
    August 4, 2021 at 10:33 am”

    Hi Bobby boy…couldn’t stay away could you?


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  19. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “K2 says:
    August 4, 2021 at 10:52 am
    Libertijiberrjabber sounds like Bob.”

    It’s him.


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  20. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “Chief health officer Jeannette Young told locals to ask themselves if they ‘really needed’ to even open their front door, go to the supermarket, or buy furniture online.”

    She really is going ballistic on the stupid. Yet this woman, as Alan Jones comments, is on $12000 per week, three thousand more than Palacechook herself. Young is the highest paid CHO in the country. How could she manage to wrangle that? I ask Hairy, who knows things. Probably self-organised and getting extra because she has a management qualification, he says wearily, possibly making claims about what she could get in the corporate sector as a reason for higher pay.

    It would be better if she had some epidemiological qualification, I say.
    She is an MBBS medico who dipped out of working in Emergency.
    She did some management thingo and went into administration.


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  21. Terry Pedersen says:

    Howard Hill says: August 3, 2021 at 11:57 pm

    You all froth at the mouth when someone even mentions taking away your freedom of speech, yet when someone comes on here doing exactly that you assemble yourselves into band of witch hunters wanting to throw anyone that exercises the very thing you supposedly hold sacred onto a pyre of death.

    Yep. That, and everything else you said in that comment is spot on. Pretty much what I referred to on the now dead and gone catallaxyfiles.com when people were jockeying for the role of chief arbiter on a new site.

    Everything you said


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  22. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “It’s not Islamic –

    TELUGU
    Majority: Hinduism
    నిజ సమయంలో తాజా వెబ్ వార్తలు
    Translation – Latest web news in real time”

    Thanks ssr, I should have looked more closely. I was operating on the mode of all squiggles that I don’t understand look the same. Of course on inspection it is full of circles, quite different to the Islamic. Guess too I have a suspicious mind about Meusli conspiracy theorists maybe landing here, colouring my immediate perception. Will try to pedal back on the suspicion. Happens when the blog is new. I didn’t pick Pancho as our sunglassed Bespoke, for instance, although I was suspicious of the fractured English disguise from the start, as well as the Panzer surname. lol


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  23. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Yep. That, and everything else you said in that comment is spot on. Pretty much what I referred to on the now dead and gone catallaxyfiles.com when people were jockeying for the role of chief arbiter on a new site.

    Everything you said”

    LOL….this is the same hypocrite who once complained to Sinc when I called him a pervert.


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  24. Diogenes says:

    “Chief health officer Jeannette Young told locals to ask themselves if they ‘really needed’ to even open their front door, go to the supermarket, or buy furniture online.”

    Well We know that furniture removalists are pox carrying disease spreaders


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  25. egg_ says:

    ,blockquote>Queensland’s top doctor has bizarrely called for locked-down residents to not even order online shopping for the rest of the week.

    Didn’t Glad say everyone had 4 weeks of groceries in their pantry?

    We’re all doomsday preppers?


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  26. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “Good news for travelers. Perth – LHR one way $10,000 plus $3,000 quarantine. No guarantees on flight.”

    The wife of one of our neighbours had to return to the UK recently to see her very sick mum. He told us it cost $13K for the one-way flight over there from Sydney, then quarantine costs, plus special pleading for permission to leave.

    This has to end. I’ve always given the date of December 1 for Australia to open up completely with everyone who wants the vax having been offered it.
    We can do it, it just takes political will.

    Keeping an eye on what’s happening in Israel though re Delta strain.
    They are wanting to avoid a September lockdown. And to booster vax.


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  27. Farmer Gez says:

    At the current death rate of Covid in the UK, it will take out 0.043% of the population per year.
    Armageddon is a long slow grind.


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  28. rickw says:

    RickW did you pick-up on the Olympic cyclist handle bar breakage as a 3d printed part. No doubt polycarbonate, head temp not hot enough? Would love to get into 3d but too many other things to do.

    Didn’t catch that one, there’s literally a million things that can go wrong with 3D printing!


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  29. rickw says:

    This has to end. I’ve always given the date of December 1 for Australia to open up completely with everyone who wants the vax having been offered it.
    We can do it, it just takes political will.

    The last two words are the problem. The idiot politicians and health officials are going further down the rabbit hole rather than climbing out of it.


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  30. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “At the current death rate of Covid in the UK, it will take out 0.043% of the population per year.
    Armageddon is a long slow grind.”

    Yes, the UK is doing really well with the opening up. Not surprising as many would have plenty of natural immunity, and also they relied mainly on Astra-Zenica for the vax. I have always favoured the AZ over Pfizer because of rarer side effects, mainly treatable clotting, and far fewer neurological ones; maybe it is better in ways we don’t yet know.


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  31. miltonf says:

    Does anyone here know about Matthew Guy changing planning laws to over rule Vicco councils during the Failyou-Napthine era?


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  32. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Israel has depended almost entirely on Pfizer for its vax.


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  33. yarpos says:

    Thank you bigly , Mr Adam. For all its foibles a place worth saving.


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  34. John H. says:

    “Chief health officer Jeannette Young told locals to ask themselves if they ‘really needed’ to even open their front door, go to the supermarket, or buy furniture online.”

    A health officer with a paranoia and\or anxiety disorder.


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  35. Terry Pedersen says:

    this is the same hypocrite who once complained to Sinc when I called him a pervert.

    Try again, crazy one. I never did complain, to anyone, about the rubbish that you post.


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  36. Lee says:

    “Chief health officer Jeannette Young told locals to ask themselves if they ‘really needed’ to even open their front door, go to the supermarket, or buy furniture online.”

    You can sense the superciliousness in her voice.
    The authoritarian old hag knows “what is right for you better than you do.”


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  37. rickw says:

    FYI

    Medicare form IM017 “Australian Immunisation Register Ceasing Correspondence and Release of information” doing the rounds at work. People getting the information on it from multiple sources.


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  38. Carpe Jugulum says:

    “And WTF is “Bob”?”

    It’s Numberwang


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  39. John Brumble says:

    Let us all welcome entirely new and not at all a dishonest renaming of a returning troll, Libertijibbit. Their discerning eye for misinformation will surely be of great use in the days ahead when they apply the same slightly-dishonest pedantry to government releases or even their own postings.

    lol.


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  40. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    This lady is an absolute shoo-in for a Nobel in Physiology/Medicine.

    After 60 years, scientists find the missing link in our body’s blood pressure control (3 Aug)

    University of Virginia School of Medicine researchers have determined the location of natural blood-pressure barometers inside our bodies that have eluded scientists for more than 60 years.
    …
    The new findings, from UVA Health’s Dr. Maria Luisa S. Sequeira-Lopez and colleagues, finally reveal where the barometers are located, how they work and how they help prevent high blood pressure (hypertension) or low blood pressure (hypotension). The researchers hope the insights will lead to new treatments for high blood pressure.

    Well done to her and her team!


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  41. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “about the rubbish that you post.”

    Creepy one…I don’t post rubbish.


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  42. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:

    Queensland’s top doctor has bizarrely called for locked-down residents to not even order online shopping for the rest of the week.

    Anything ordered online this week won’t arrive until the week after next or later.
    Yet we’re told the lockdown ends on Sunday.


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  43. mh says:

    ‘NSW man in 20s ‘felt fatigued, died suddenly’
    Gladys Berejiklian issues a warning to Hunter region as state records 233 new Covid cases and two deaths.’

    Sure. In their twenties. I’m tired, I think I’m about to die. Thud.

    Later: This is why we are making vaxxxines mandatory.


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  44. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “It’s Numberwang”

    Indeed it is…..he can’t even create a sock properly.

    I should remind people that last week everyone including Monty and Grigs, thanked Sinclair for his Herculean efforts…but “Libertijibbit” came on and was his usual graceless, mean and gauche self, he didn’t thanks Sinc and just spat on the blog that had tolerated him for too long.


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  45. lotocoti says:

    “No, they’re not essential to me.” should be Dr Jenny’s epitaph.


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  46. johanna says:

    This sounds very suss to me:

    ”A man in his 20s has died from COVID-19 as NSW records 233 new locally acquired COVID-19 cases.

    He died at his home in Sydney’s south west yesterday and he was not vaccinated.

    The man had reached day 13 of his home isolation and was being checked daily by staff from the South-Western Sydney Local Health District.

    Chief health officer Kerry Chant said the man had no underlying conditions and “suddenly deteriorated”.

    “He did complain of feeling a little fatigued but the deterioration happened suddenly is my understanding,” Dr Chant said.
    LIVE UPDATES: Read our blog for the latest news on the COVID-19 pandemic.

    “We are aware that with COVID you can get sudden deaths and I think that is important to understand that your health status can deteriorate and you can have sudden death with COVID.”

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-04/nsw-records-233-covid19-cases/100348094

    If he was on day 13 of his home isolation, had he or had he not been diagnosed? It sounds as though he hadn’t, but the lack of clarity is suspicious.

    Also, what’s with declaring the cause of death the next day, when there has to be an inquest. Have they done an autopsy? Again, all very murky.

    I find this story hard to believe, especially as it fits the narrative so neatly.


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  47. Bruce of Newcastle says:
  48. miltonf says:

    Yeah you can sense the venom and spite


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  49. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “‘NSW man in 20s ‘felt fatigued, died suddenly’”

    Very strange.

    Surely that would warrant an autopsy and the coroner being involved?


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  50. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “I find this story hard to believe, especially as it fits the narrative so neatly.”

    Agree.


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