Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

Hi Cats,

As you can see I have created a copy of the Cat for you to continue to bicker, argue and occasionally make a reasonable point.

I do hope a solution is found with the original Cat but just in case Sinc doesn’t want to transfer the site to a new generation I have built a replica before the closure so we can migrate as many of the community across as possible.

Programming Note: I rushed out the site so there will be bugs. I can get them fixed but did not want perfection to get in the way for progress.

Community Note: Please let as many cats know of the new blog as soon as possible so we can capture the magic of the original. In particular would love for the original posters to continue their great work here.

Ideological Note: I am an infrequent poster but long time reader of the Cat. The discussions there have been a huge part of my own ideological growth on many issues. In particular free speech is key for me so will have a very similar light touch to the original Cat, potentially adopting my one policy on an earlier forum I built: “No D***heads” which is subjective but surprisingly easy to implement.

Website Note: I will run the Cat as close to possible as the original because I don’t believe in re-inventing the wheel. However if the community so wants I am happy to make changes to improve the experience so if you have any ideas let me know. For anything specific hit me up at the contact form, else go nuts in the comments.

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3,112 Responses to Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

  1. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “Its not puzzling candy. They are trying to kill every one. Where is the puzzle? The only puzzle is trying to figure out why you are puzzled?”

    I hope this is a joke, because otherwise it is bullshit.

    The Cat doesn’t run on Q bullshit.


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  2. srr says:

    “rickw says:
    August 2, 2021 at 5:35 pm
    Agenda derailing?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MEH9FiuwP0&pp=sAQA”

    Cool run down, but I just want to drop a little word of warning re: relocating to other countries. Not only did it go very badly for other Australian who believed they could do well in another South American Country in the past, but despite being high level govt family overseas, my son’s in laws busted a gut to get them settled in Australia before the lockdowns.

    Even this pitch for the best places to survive a global collapse –
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIMJzxOTPcU&t=103s
    mentions Australia (because it would be too obviously insane not to), but tries really hard to sell the UK & NZ as better, which is even more obviously insane, but hey, hysterics seems to be the standard of the times.


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  3. Rockdoctor says:

    Wow. 3 days & close to 1500 comments. A lot of familiar names taken the plunge too… Nice.


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  4. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “I don’t know why the fuck Sky doesn’t sue the bastards.”

    Agree….I reckon that Midgets, Mad Effing Witches and other scum are behind this. It is clear that the progressive left scum want to cleanse any kind of speech they don’t like from all MSM and social media. I’m fucking sick of them.


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  5. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “Space chook banned Sky news for mentioning Hydroxy and Ivermectin:”

    Outrageous. Ivermectin has saved millions of lives and morbidities in the third world as a cure for tropical diseases, and its development won a Nobel Prize in 2016.

    Hydroxychloroquine has done the same for the scourge of Malaria.

    Both have shown anti-viral properties in vitro, and seem to do well in vivo also.

    Oxford University are running a big RCT on Ivermectin as a treatment for Covid.

    Deplatforming all mention of these two drugs is a National disgrace.


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  6. Makka says:

    And here’s the Gov’ts own propaganda and media outlet making it abundantly clear the vaccine passport is coming, so the horses won’t be spooked when it gets here;

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-30/vaccine-passport-covid-pass-coronavirus/100333250

    “An increasing number of countries are using vaccine passports not only at their borders but also to restrict who can participate in social and cultural activities, and in some cases even employment.

    Most of the countries that have begun implementing the passes widely have relatively high vaccination rates of at least 50 per cent.

    While in most cases it’s too early to tell whether the schemes are working, they provide a useful insight for where Australia might be headed. ”

    MIGHT be headed….. lol


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  7. ockermatua says:

    How long until this place gets knocked on the head?

    Put ‘catallaxy-files’ into a search and the old one comes up. Not this.


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  8. Dot says:

    ”Former policeman Paul Egge alleged Wran conspired with High Court judge Lionel Murphy to ensure the Luna Park lease went to a Saffron front company, but his claim was found to be without credibility by a royal commission and a parliamentary commission. The ABC did not produce any tapes, transcripts or other police testimony to corroborate this allegation.

    The ABC response to Mr Cockburn rejected his complaints made with reference to editorial policies. The ABC insisted the documentary made allegations rather than facts, and it was up to the audience to determine whether they were credible or not. “We are satisfied the program complied with the ABC’s editorial standards for accuracy,” it said.

    Mr Hill, who ran the ABC from 1986 to 1995, and previously worked for Wran, said the documentary was “sloppy journalism”, clearly breached editorial policies and should never have been broadcast.”

    Maybe, but it’s true, Wran was a disgusting crook who most likely had OMCGs literally murder people for him.

    These space cadets cannot mentally hack it when their religion (the Labor Party) is portrayed as anything but faultless.


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  9. PeterW says:

    [quote] Roger says:
    August 2, 2021 at 6:48 pm
    “Hitler was not illogical…”

    I don’t have a dog in this fight – the Cat after dark really isn’t my thing – but…most of Hitler’s generals would demur on that.[/quote]

    There’s a common failure to understand the difference between logic and facts (or claims of fact)..

    Hitler’s actions were logical if you accept his initial assumptions. The logic of most criminals and violent actors is sound, up to a point. [i] It gets me what I want, at a price I am willing to pay! [/i] The point where it fails, is where they get caught, or – like Hitler – find that their “victim” is stronger than anticipated.

    It wasn’t his logic that was at fault, but his assumptions. He assumed that he was stronger – relatively speaking – than those he invaded. He assumed that the British would not fight for long. He assumed that the Americans lacked the willingness to fight a European war….

    Etc, etc….


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  10. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    That Mushroom in the dark is looking rather like a good candidate for the first test of the smite sword. JC is handling the SSR details quite well, and she is a good commenter on other things. The Q stuff doesn’t belong here. Who agreees?


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  11. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    The old one is dead and buried at Trove, Ockermatua.

    This one has arisen and is good but should not become a Q haunt imho.
    If you like that sort of thing any of your newcomers, go somewhere else.


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  12. Cassie of Sydney says:

    I reckon Rudd also behind the suspension.


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  13. rosie says:

    Nah on smite consensi.

    Let the owner decide.

    Besides who doesn’t want to be associated with complete fruitloops?


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  14. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    you newcomers.

    Newcomers are always welcome but don’t bring Q baggage.
    Sinc didn’t allow it. He axed Anne, the worst offender.


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  15. MatrixTransform says:

    Block-Chain-Lyfe …

    you won’t need a QR-tatt
    you won’t need to remember your own Unique Id ( UID )

    what will happen is that your ‘meta’ will proceed you
    just travelling somewhere with a phone will be enough to sort you from the rest of the grass

    your coffee will be waiting when you get there
    … and be perfectly hot and perfectly strong … just how you like it.

    there’s a lot of people her that reckon conspiracy theorists are whack-jobs.

    lol

    learn to code moles.


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  16. HD says:

    @Harlequin Decline
    RE: August 2, 2021 at 5:33 pm

    Well, looks like give it some time and those gaols that have been getting built and upgraded may come to be seen as most prescient and excellent investments. For the politicians and the rest of these people that have completely lost the plot. This is not and never will be a war of survival of either the people or the State that is supposed to represent them.

    In the event anybody is coerced in any way to take vaccines and suffers death or serious injury as a result, for that matter so much as woman losing a pregnancy, we have long established laws regarding manslaughter/ grievous bodily harm. I suspect the country will demand the people responsible are held responsible.

    It would be unpleasant to see the invitation of 1789 “style” mobs at some point.


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  17. MatrixTransform says:

    The Cat doesn’t run on Q bullshit

    sure it does Lizzie.
    you just haven’t worked out that this time your’e the one that bought the bullshit.


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  18. Sancho Panzer says:

    Hello.
    Sancho is here.


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  19. ockermatua says:

    Nor should it be an extension of your conservatory and private salon, ma’am.


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  20. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Wran was a disgusting crook ”

    Correct…and many people have long suspected….for decades……that Abe Saffron and Jack Rooklyn were involved in the Luna Park fire. Wran was a crook…as to whether he had personal involvement I don’t know….but I certainly wouldn’t rule out Lionel Murphy.


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  21. Ruprecht says:

    Some Cats have been gleeful at the thought of who will be leader(s) here with a fixated delight of ‘smiting’ not far from the surface. Let the group decide.


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  22. Shy Ted says:

    Can someone pass the smelling salts to Dot, I think she’s fainted. CAD went up today. They’ve started drilling very close to De Grey. When I’m rich I’m staying home. Apparently.


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  23. rickw says:

    The Liberal party has to be destroyed.

    Rooted from the inside out. If Barnaby was a decent Australian and a lover of Freedom and Liberty he’d break the Nationals away from these communist scum ASAP.


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  24. srr says:

    “The Mushroom Whisperer says:
    August 2, 2021 at 6:05 pm
    “JC – I have already said I don’t think this is accurate. Global tracking is impractical.”

    I just assume its happening already.”

    We recently just came off two weeks isolation, with live & person govt check up’s that we were isolating.

    This happened because one of our household had a day trip in Melbourne and a Tram they used their MiKey card on*, was also travelled on (at another time), by someone who had contact with, someone who was ‘tested positive’ for, Wu Flu.

    This was all too much like a certain Bruce Willis movie, but it was NOT unexpected. Paying attention to the Double Dutch dribbled by Govt, their “nonsense” makes sense when you focus out on the really big picture.

    *They also noticed most of the Tram travellers did not ‘touch on or off’. Tram drivers won’t stop the tram ’til they do, but most businesses that don’t want to lose their business will do, ‘whatever it takes’.


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  25. Indolent says:

    “Real money bet and we escrow. I bet QR is gonsky within 18 months. What odds are you offering on 10 K”
    I would pay to make it so.

    “they couldn’t tell the difference between a tracking app and a “permission passport.”
    THIS is what they are really trying to create. A replica of the Chinese social credit system. Do what they want or that little app will FORBID whatever it is you’re trying to do, whether going to the gym or the supermarket.

    And people thought this was about travel or even health. Ha!


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  26. Baba says:

    Nothing like a bit of freedom to excite latent totalitarians.


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  27. Entropy says:

    I stand with Lizzie.

    We don’t need nut job stuff, what is out there in public is bad enough.


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  28. mc says:

    Rooted from the inside out. If Barnaby was a decent Australian and a lover of Freedom and Liberty he’d break the Nationals away from these communist scum ASAP.

    Your funny rickw… They are all on the same path. The Liberal Party is about 3 years behind the Labor Party and the Nationals are about 5 minutes behind the Libs


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  29. srr says:

    “struth says:
    August 2, 2021 at 6:18 pm
    Take it slowly you fucking drop kicks…..
    What is the difference between tracking and a passport?!”

    It is ‘a thing’, that those who take pride in their intellect are often baffled by the obvious.


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  30. Sancho Panzer says:

    Q baggage.
    This is Qantas?


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  31. Top Ender says:

    Napoleon said “Give me lucky generals” and he meant generals who made their own luck.

    In that respect Hitler did so. All of his first major actions against other countries were successful. After such a run of success it would be a very brave general who challenged his decisions.

    However, the failures set in early with the 40s characterised by failure whereas the 1930s had been characterised by success.


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  32. Dot says:

    Cats,

    Please STFU about “being tracked” unless you’ve read any of the Vault 7 stuff on Wiki Leaks.

    # If you have a SIM card, you’re being tracked.
    # If you have an IP address, you’re being tracked.
    # If you have mailing addresses in your own name, car registrations with your addresses and name on them, you’re traceable.
    # Sonic Screwdriver allowed spooks to spy on people using “turned off” smart TVs on ‘standby’ (plugged in, ready to click on with the remote).
    # A CIA related company In Q Tel funded Niamtic who developed Pokemon Go! No bullshit. It has allowed Intel agencies to fully 3D map public spaces, private buildings and foreign cities.
    # DARPA pulled the plug on LifeLog the day FaceBook started.

    Most people don’t even know about ECHELON, CARNIVORE OR PRISM.

    Or that the NSA has archived the entire internet, awful dancing babies, flying toasters and GeoCities cloud background all text webpages included.

    I am not defending these ludicrous tracking/QR sign in apps. Far from it. I am noting how much worse it is than some liberty curious normies may think.


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  33. Indolent says:

    I recently saw a clip (probably linked here) of Morrison, in answer to a question about what recourse people had if they suffered an adverse reaction to the vaccine, replied quite clearly that everyone was responsible for their own health and medical treatment and should make an informed decision. This should be played back to him on a daily basis. How, then, can anyone be forced to get any sort of medical treatment against their will?


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  34. Ruprecht says:

    US lezzos out of Gold Medal in Olympic Soccer. Oh.


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  35. MatrixTransform says:

    — Global tracking is impractical —

    who said that? JC?

    mate, I work in ‘Big Data’ … just letting you know that you ‘meta data’ says way more about you than you’d care to know. It isn’t about individual tracking, it is about context.

    You’re now a data point rather than a actual human. We’ve all been done and it ain’t ever going to stop.

    your’e the farm not the farmer


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  36. srr says:

    Speedbox says:
    August 2, 2021 at 6:21 pm
    […] “I was referring to the wholesale exchange of detailed whole-of-population data which is an entirely different issue. Vast….beyond vast…..enormous…..gigantic and at an incalculable cost.”

    This is where that whole, ‘information is money’, whole power stations of energy used for computing, ‘mining data’/crypto currency, comes in.

    … but hey, who can stop to think about that insanely complex blockchain & bitcoin shit when, “Wu Flu or Vaxes Are Gonna Kill Us All!!!!”


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  37. Sancho Panzer says:

    What is a pizzagate?


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  38. Vicki says:

    “It’s got live TB on it. So I probably was exposed to that long ago”

    Funny you saying that, Lizzie.

    When I consulted a specialist for my bronchiectasis years ago, he looked at the Cat Scan (may have been MRI, can’t recall) 🙂& said he could see “a marker” for TB. I replied that I had not had TB to my knowledge… & he replied, “That’s true, but you came into contact with it at one stage…your immune system just dealt with it”.

    Interesting. I wondered later if it could have been Bovine TB, as when I was a child our farm, we milked a cow for our daily milk – & it was, of course, unpasteurised. Bovine TB, as I understand was not uncommon in those days.


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  39. cohenite says:

    Hitler’s actions were logical if you accept his initial assumptions. The logic of most criminals and violent actors is sound, up to a point. [i] It gets me what I want, at a price I am willing to pay! [/i] The point where it fails, is where they get caught, or – like Hitler – find that their “victim” is stronger than anticipated.

    It wasn’t his logic that was at fault, but his assumptions. He assumed that he was stronger – relatively speaking – than those he invaded. He assumed that the British would not fight for long. He assumed that the Americans lacked the willingness to fight a European war….

    Which is why hitler lost and islam keeps winning. Islam uses the very strengths of its enemy/victim, the West, against it: its freedoms and virtue signalling. Islam is the perfect parasite: it hollows out the West while being exonerated for its every outrage because the virtue signallers have designated it a victim. Islam is also the perfect leftie: despite it’s grotesque values it readily and frequently dispenses with those values to attack the West so it can achieve power.


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  40. rickw says:

    Indolent,

    This is probably the best take on Scumo Principles and Logic. None and None.

    Includes the clip you mentioned:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRkScKUebZg&pp=sAQA


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  41. Rex Anger says:

    “I hope this is a joke, because otherwise it is bullshit.

    The Cat doesn’t run on Q bullshit.”

    Barely alive for 3 days, and already the new Cat is afflicted by Birdstrike…


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  42. calli says:

    Let the group decide.

    Wot? Groupthink? Absolutely not!

    The new Doomlord uses the Banhammer. He decides, not the mob.

    Next you’ll be calling for public flayings and shamings.


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  43. Muddy says:

    Smiting protocol is an issue that at some point will need to be addressed. Undoubtedly, Adam will not always be available, and nor should he be depended upon. The challenge is, who decides where the line between ‘out there’ and reputationally damaging, is drawn?
    What do people want Cat3 to be, and what needs to be put in place to ensure those expectations are met?


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  44. cohenite says:

    Tesla big battery fire in Victoria under control after burning more than three days

    Do you think this $100 million fuckup will stop the spivs and ratbags of alarmism and renewables? Sure.

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/tesla-big-battery-fire-in-victoria-under-control-after-burning-more-than-three-days/ar-AAMPfOP?ocid=entnewsntp


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  45. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    “Napoleon said “Give me lucky generals” and he meant generals who made their own luck.”

    O/T Top Ender, regarding some discussion on the old Cat about whether Hitler’s invasion of England in 1940 would have succeeded. The mailman’s camels have delivered my replacement copy of Derek Robinson’s book “Invasion 1940”, and his conclusion was that the Royal Navy outnumbered the German Navy ten to one in home waters, and any invasion would have been a bloodbath.


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  46. Albatross says:

    Matrix whip out your Parquets and let’s see whose is bigger.


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  47. cohenite says:

    Man charged over fake video of AFP chief Kershaw ‘plotting coup’
    Stephen Rice The Australian August 2, 2021
    A faked video purporting to be a leaked briefing by Australian Federal Police Commissioner Reece Kershaw planning to arrest government leaders for treason is circulating in online conspiracy circles and has been watched more than 100,000 times, with police sources expressing fear that unbalanced individuals may act on it. Police sources say a man has been charged over the circulation of the videos. The video claims to reveal Commissioner Kershaw “spelling out the crimes of how our ‘leaders’ have hijacked our Government and how they will be taken down under common law and the constitution.”
    Police authorities who track online conspiracy activists have become increasingly alarmed at the proliferation of anti-vax and anti-lockdown messaging inciting violence and armed resistance to lockdown and other restrictions.
    “This has already started,” the man purported to be Commissioner Kershaw says in the video. “When are we going to overthrow the Government? ASAP! This is lawful arrest warrants on people who have done wrong by the criminal justice system and we have to arrest them for that.”
    The “commissioner” tells potential recruits some of them will be armed but “the last resort is to pull a handgun on someone – we don’t want to do it; we want to do it lawfully and under the 1979 Police Act.”
    They will be getting an AFP badge, he says, but “only to be used on the day of the arrests.”
    The fake video clip has been posted on dozens of social media sites including pages belonging to celebrity chef Pete Evans, rebel MP Craig Kelly and activists linked to the recent “Freedom Day” protest marches.
    The man who calls himself “the commissioner” claims to have a handgun that he brings to meetings to “show people this is not a bloody game. There could be times where your life could be threatened.”
    “This is not a coup, this is not a terrorist act,” he says. “If you think you’re going in guns blazing and it’s going to be all fun and games, it’s not. This is not a game. You’re signing on for something that could be dangerous.”
    “The people at the top will be removed from their positions,” the man says. The Governor-General Sir David Hurley will be “taken from power completely” and “the true Governor General”– far right activist Teresa van Lieshout – will be installed in his place.
    Former One Nation and Palmer United Party candidate Teresa van Lieshout posts videos issuing “arrest warrants” for various politicians, state premiers and chief medical officers for offences including murder and treason.
    The Australian understands the audio is of a real Zoom meeting conducted on the Gold Coast by a splinter group connected to the far-right Citizens Initiated Referendum, for the purpose of recruiting gullible volunteers.
    The audio of the meeting has then been re-badged with a picture of Commissioner Kershaw and added text to make it appear he is the speaker.
    The session purports to be an opportunity for volunteers to sign up for a secret section of the AFP where they will be given firearms and self-defence training.
    The Citizens Initiated Referendum claims Australia’s leaders are traitors and the death penalty should be re-introduced for treason.
    The group’s website states that “Australia is heading towards a similar fate to Germany before Hitler came along”, and that “Hitler has plenty to teach us.”
    The site links to videos claiming that “Jews are a people of robbers” who have “destroyed civilisations by the hundreds.”
    The man claiming to be Commissioner Kershaw says in the video: “All you have to do is sign on, learn the basic self defence, be ready for when we give you that direction to be called up, to effect the arrest warrants.
    “So long as you’re ready to stand up and effect the arrest warrants and dissolve the political parties that have done wrong, we don’t have a problem with that
    “They won’t be able to come in and vax you because we will stop that. That’s why I’m calling upon Australians, men and women, we need you to sign on, to stand up, put on the boxing gloves and get ready to go. Be ready to do your duty, not only as a Federal Police Officer but as a citizen.
    “Eventually they’ll pull a full lockdown on us and that’s something we can’t have.”


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  48. ockermatua says:

    Pizzagate was a primer for the Epstein/Maxwell/Prince Andrew engineered expose which they hope will satisfy you.

    Now move on prole. Etc


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  49. Regarding the tracking:
    My usual habit is to go to bed early and read from my Kindle.
    A couple of months ago, I got a message on the device saying “You’re on a reading bender! 45 days in a row reading at night! Keep up the good work!”
    My kindle only connects to the web when I buy a new book and download it.
    So what other information are they sending back?
    Bastards.


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  50. Old School Conservative says:

    Australia’s biggest industry groups say the nation is ready for governments to consider mandating Covid-19 vaccinations in the workplace.

    Tying vaccinations to employment is already operating in the hotel quarantine system and aged care, but calls are growing for wider powers allowing employers to force staff to get jabbed.

    Constitutional experts also say there is nothing in the nation’s founding document preventing the states or the commonwealth from making jabs compulsory.
    (The Australian)
    Compulsory vaxes now being promoted by Innes Wilcox.
    No doubt it will be implemented simultaneously