Open Thread – September 2024

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  1. mh says:

    Trump survives AGAIN

    Newscorp

    Donald Trump rushed to safety as Secret Service opens fire on man with AK-47 near golf course

    … In his first comments on the incident in an email to supporters, Mr Trump said: “There were gunshots in my vicinity, but before rumors start spiraling out of control, I wanted you to hear this first: I AM SAFE AND WELL!”

    “Nothing will slow me down. I will NEVER SURRENDER,” he said.

    “I will always love you for supporting me. Unity. Peace. Make America Great Again.”


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  2. mh says:

    Hodge Twins

    Black Guy Familiar With Haitian Culture Explains The Eating of Pets Connection to Voodoo

    Conservative Twins
    2.86M subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=765q0PH2Ezg


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  3. mh says:

    ‘Willing to die’: Alleged Trump gunman was staunch Ukraine supporter

    The alleged gunman was a staunch Ukraine supporter who said he was “willing to die for democracy” and tried to recruit foreign fighters.

    https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/gunman-who-attempted-to-assassinate-donald-trump-named/news-story/a61244ca71a048a6ff0fdb32270b9d90


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  4. mh says:

    Nicholas J. Fuentes
    @NickJFuentes

    The shooter has a “Weapons of Mass Destruction” charge from 2002 and was recruiting mercenaries for NATOs War in Ukraine.

    Most obvious federal asset ever. The question is whether he went rogue or if he was on a mission. I think we all know…

    11:20 AM · Sep 16, 2024 · 232.9K Views


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  5. mh says:

    Keith Woods
    @KeithWoodsYT

    On the US election, the Pope says he can’t decide what the lesser of two evils is between a candidate that supports killing children and one that supports throwing out illegal immigrants

    https://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1835262548829983108


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  6. Esme says:

    Esme, do you know the YouTuber @ 1:20 in the PJW vid?

    I don’t know him, mh.

    Are you liking Trump now, despite everything, or just for entertainment value?


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  7. Esme says:

    Francis O’Neill

    No assassination attempts for years and then two come along at once….to restore people’s faith in the ‘father of the vaccine.’


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  8. mh says:

    Are you liking Trump now, despite everything, or just for entertainment value?

    I support long term goals that the MAGA movement thought were Trump goals but on which Trump went to water. ie stricter immigration, border protection.

    Even after getting shot, Trump had no momentum, and the RNC was a total flop. Trump hired his old campaign manager from 2016 as the base had tuned out. Trump needs to get pressured continuously by the AFers to give some commitments to their agenda otherwise they don’t give Trump their vote.

    The last week Trump has done well in waking people up to certain issues. It’s that movement I like – where Americans become aware of policies such as race replacement. Replaced by voodoo practicing Haitians with an IQ of 67!

    Does Trump move things forward or back? If he subsumes the AF ideas from 2016 then spits them out when becoming Prez then obviously it’s of no use.

    At the moment he is flying around America with Laura Loomer. He’s trying to get the feel of those that are withholding their support, problem is Loomer is a crazed Jewish Zionist but has an image of being ‘based’.


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  9. mh says:

    Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️
    @realchrisrufo

    EXCLUSIVE: We have discovered that migrants are, in fact, eating cats in Ohio. We have verified, with multiple witnesses and visual cross-references, that African migrants in Dayton, the next city over from Springfield, barbecued these cats last summer.

    10:05 PM · Sep 14, 2024 · 26M Views

    https://x.com/realchrisrufo/status/1834926318883852543


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  10. mh says:

    At the moment he is flying around America with Laura Loomer.

    He could just be shagging her.

    Trump says Loomer is “very special”.


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  11. mh says:

    Trump does disappoint people.

    Example

    Alex Jones Breaks Up With Donald Trump Supercut Edition

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBkQJ3OgZqs


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  12. kaysee kaysee says:

    If only there were current western government politicians speaking out like this.

    Dominique de Villepin,
    former Prime Minister of France

    He says France “no longer has a voice on the international scene”, because (among other things) of its “double-standards” and lack of action with regards to Gaza.

    It is a clip from this video, but no subtitles available here.


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  13. kaysee kaysee says:

    Cats, Dogs and Election Debates

    1/
    All these long, detailed comments – which include putting together what I have read, learnt and analysed – are for the benefit of rational readers. For those who think critically and are truth-seekers.

    The election debate (10 September). Immigration is a major issue. Instead of going in prepared with the facts: what is happening at the border, the numbers coming in, the illegals and the problems caused, Trump reacted to the bait and pulled out something unverified “They’re eating the dogs, the people that came in, they’re eating the cats,…..”

    After the debate, the Democrat side started trolling with memes and videos about cats and dogs. Fine.
    The Maga side could have had their memes about Kamala at the debate. Fine.

    But after the first 1-2 days, the focus should have returned to the big issues of the election: economy, inflation, real immigration problems, border and so on. Instead, Maga have rushed in to protect their god with memes and viral videos – because it is not about facts, but whatever he says has to be accepted as fact – without any care for the consequences to anyone else.


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  14. kaysee kaysee says:

    2/

    13 September
    Man Holding 2 Geese The Real Story Behind Viral Pic!!

    The Ohio Division of Wildlife tells TMZ the real deal behind the viral pic — the guy was actually picking up 2 geese that were hit in a Columbus car accident. And by the way, that’s 45 minutes from Springfield, where Trump’s wild claims supposedly took place.

    14 September
    Trump and Vance are still stoking fears of Haitian migrants,
    as Ohio community faces bomb threats

    After city agencies were targeted in a bomb threat, Springfield Mayor Rob Rue on Thursday called on politicians to tamp down the rhetoric.

    “All these federal politicians that have negatively spun our city, they need to know they’re hurting our city, and it was their words that did it,” Rue said in an interview with WSYX.


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  15. kaysee kaysee says:

    3/

    16 September
    Haitians in Ohio find solidarity at church after chaotic week
    of false pet-eating claims

    For many Haitian immigrants, Sunday mornings in Springfield, Ohio, are spent joyfully worshipping God as they sing and pray in their native Creole. This Sunday, they needed that uplifting balm more than ever.

    Their community is reeling — confused, frustrated, hurt — from false accusations that they are eating their neighbor’s cats and dogs. The now viral and highly politicized rumors are being fueled by former President Donald Trump, his running mate JD Vance and others, and violent threats against the community are upending daily life in their city.
    ……

    ….“Pray and think what it is to be a Haitian parent sending their child this week to school.”

    One of those parents is Mia Perez, 35 an immigration lawyer whose 9-year-old daughter had to evacuate her school twice because of bomb threats to a nearby DMV this week.

    “Kids in school are being asked by other kids: ’How does the dog taste? How does the cat taste?” Perez said, describing her daughter’s distress.

    “She’s asking, ‘Are we the kind of Haitians who eat this kind of stuff? Is it true? What’s happening?’”
    ……….

    On Sunday, Perez attended a service at Saint Raphael’s Catholic church….many from their community stayed away out of fears for their safety, “This is emotional,” she said. “They made a statement of not being here. Catholic Haitian people have such strong faith — not even hurricanes can keep them away, but look at this here today.”


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  16. kaysee kaysee says:

    4/

    14 September
    How it started:
    ‘It just exploded’:
    Springfield woman claims she never meant to spark false rumors about Haitians

    The woman behind an early Facebook post spreading a harmful and baseless claim about Haitian immigrants eating local pets that helped thrust a small Ohio city into the national spotlight says she had no firsthand knowledge of any such incident and is now filled with regret and fear as a result of the ensuing fallout.

    15 September
    JD Vance interview

    JD Vance attempts to justify spreading lies about Haitians eating pets in Springfield, Ohio:

    “If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people then that’s what I’m going to do”

    ……………………………………………

    I’ve put this together based on what I have come across while trying to find the facts. If any of you can add more or refute the above, please do so. It is about understanding what is really happening and how innocent people can be negatively affected due to ignorance or ulterior motives.


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  17. Esme says:

    This is good, kaysee, thank you. I don’t believe or trust anyone on the political stage or in the MSM, so don’t really take any of their “news” seriously. The truth is usually the opposite of what they present. We know they want people distracted and divided, looking the wrong way, seeing each other as the enemy.


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  18. Esme says:

    Serious question

    If Hillary Clinton had been president in 2020, declared the fake pandemic, initiated lockdowns, forced socialism, orchestrated the largest transfer of wealth via the CARES Act, promoted the COVID “vaccines” as safe and effective, awarded Fauci, called herself “the Mother of the vaccine”, demanded credit for it all, but didn’t mandate the vaccine – would you give her a free pass or would you hold her accountable?

    Typical reaction of Trump supporters


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  19. kaysee kaysee says:

    I don’t believe or trust anyone on the political stage or in the MSM, so don’t really take any of their “news” seriously. The truth is usually the opposite of what they present.

    It is okay when a tussle is between groups that have equal advantages. But what happens when the innocent become targets? Imagine going to school as a 9-year old and your classmates ask you questions about your food? Or evacuations due to bomb threats?

    Or being wrongly accused of stealing pets, killing them and eating them?

    A joke for a day or two in the heat of the moment and then passes on is one thing. But to make it take centre-stage and be treated as real, what’s that?


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  20. kaysee kaysee says:

    This whole Maga loyalty is a cult. What is Maga supposed to represent? What are their values? What do they support?

    Is this okay with them? Family and Christian values?

    78 year old grandfather, a married man, who as far as we know is still married to his third wife. He was the President of the US and is running again to be President. And a 31-year old single woman who is not related to him.

    Loomer-1

    Loomer-2

    Loomer-3


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  21. mh says:

    I’m ok with it as long as Melania is ok with it.

    Nick Fuentes said if he had to lose Loomer to someone he would rather it be Trump.


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  22. Esme says:

    It is okay when a tussle is between groups that have equal advantages.

    They should be telling us the truth, the media and our ‘elected representatives’. But they’re not, they haven’t. And who knows how many have died or been injured or otherwise suffered because of their lies.


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  23. Esme says:

    US Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA) expanding reach to retail outlets

    BARDA is creating a parallel unregulated, Congressionally unaccountable, liability free “pharmaceutical industry” and is capturing eager and willing parties into this cartel, including retail outlets that are consumer-facing (pharmacies, mobile clinics, urgent care facilities).

    …

    Walgreens tend to be in more poor black/ethnic neighborhoods with low income and education levels… A $500 store card might get enough interest from women to get jabbed with “undisclosed vaccine” for experimental purposes. Is it to sterilize these women, just like they do in Africa and India in those Bill Gates “humanitarian” clinics?

    …

    Another worrying trend is that BARDA is capturing healthcare locations where people who now thoroughly mistrust healthcare would go in case of emergency – urgent care facilities and pharmacies. Due to BARDA contracts they are now under direction and control of the US HHS and DOD directly. In case of the “next pandemic” they would not be free to fill orders for medicine that you/your doctor thinks you should get, and will be directed to push countermeasures instead.


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  24. kaysee kaysee says:

    Serious question

    I came across Andrea’s account a couple of months ago and have been checking her regularly.

    I am not hooked on to the internet all the time. I listen to the radio off-and-on and hear the MSM news. When I get round to the internet, I check the news and if possible, verify the bits I heard on the radio news and talkback.

    Once of the best sources of news at this stage is twitter. But herein lies the trap. Twitter sets algorithms to display the posts from accounts it wants to amplify. And it shadow bans the accounts of “conspiracy theorists” and truth speakers. I don’t bother to follow the big name accounts or what twitter recommends. I have a different method.

    In my browser bookmarks, I have created a “Twitter” folder. I have saved here the accounts of posters I have found to be worth reading. It has been a trial-and-error process and is a bit tedious. If I have come across a poster who posts tweets that fall into the categories of well-researched, intelligent, give me food for thought or help me learn something, I save that account. If the poster turns out to be a fake or a waste of time, I delete that. If I find new good ones, I add them. It is not about agreeing with everything from those posters – but their overall content.

    I don’t keep checking for the latest tweets being dropped in 24/7. When I have the time, I check these accounts and pick up the news and info there. And, of course, I share as much as possible here. I’ve found this system works well because I can quickly read through what’s there and gain from it without losing too much time. I also don’t let myself get caught up in the useless trolling and unpleasant exchanges that take place.


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  25. mh says:

    Kamala Putting Haitian Refugees in Ohio to Turn it Blue

    Conservative Twins
    2.86M subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OJNLrFwa6E


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  26. kaysee kaysee says:

    This one from Andrea today.

    PSA to my conservative followers: If you dislike my tweets, feel free to unfollow me. I know what I post isn’t popular and may be uncomfortable for many, but I’m not here to please anyone or feed you the MSM narratives like the popular accounts you’re used to seeing.

    If you prefer comforting lies and biased political cheerleaders, I suggest following grifters like Benny Johnson, Dan Bongino, and David Harris Jr.

    Take care and God bless.

    We don’t have a follower, donor or subscriber system on this blog. But, like Andrea, I will say the same. If you don’t like what I post, feel free to scroll past. I don’t post my opinions and analysis to be popular or liked.

    I care about what is happening in the world and passing on the truth so that those who want to learn and are similar truth-seekers can gain from my reading and research. The same as I gain from those who are also reading, researching and posting here. Many previous commenters on this blog decided this was not the comfortable space for them, especially with our comments on Trump and the Gaza war.

    As Andrea says, those who prefer the comforting lies and the biased commentary can go to sites where they can find it. Those who want to join us here in the posting of uncomfortable truths or discussions on them are welcome to do so.

    This was originally the comforting lies meme. I converted to a Cat meme which I posted here, last year. I am on my own there but will do some image-shopping to add anyone else who wants to sit under the Catallaxy banner.


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  27. mh says:

    Ron DeSantis: How did this happen?

    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis tells ‘Jesse Watters Primetime’ how his state will respond to the apparent assassination attempt of former President Trump in West Palm Beach.

    Fox News
    11.8M subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZw277ScY8g


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  28. kaysee kaysee says:

    Nick Fuentes said if he had to lose Loomer to someone he would rather it be Trump.

    I gave Nick Fuentes a fair run. He did make sense on some of the topics he posted on, but now he seems to be swinging back on the Trump train. He gave the appearance of being really America First and calling out Trump for his failing to stand by Conservatives. Now he’s looking out for the changes in Trump’s policies and calls them “Groyper wins”.

    He seems to be happy with the support of the Tate brothers but I am not sure if they are just toying with him. Andrew Tate has pledged his support for Trump.


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  29. mh says:

    JD Vance speaks on Springfield, Ohio, and immigration in interview with CNN

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW-9gN2Ta8o

    This is 100% Vance with ‘Dana’ removed.

    I don’t really have an opinion on this guy, but he is very calm.


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  30. Esme says:

    In my browser bookmarks, I have created a “Twitter” folder.

    This is a good tip. I wondered about the algorithm thing – why people I’m not following, and don’t want to, pop up all the time.

    a Cat meme

    Cute!


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  31. mh says:

    MSM all say exactly the same thing about Springfield, Ohio.

    Just like yesterday
    Then I’ll get on my knees and pray…

    Multiple local news stations say the same thing verbatim

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksb3KD6DfSI


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  32. mh says:

    Time for a change of pace now

    Mr.Kittlez Vs The Haitians – Rare Lost 60s Hit Song

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drxPY29BAX0


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  33. mh says:

    Email from Tucker Carlson Network

    Tucker Carlson reveals the shocking lies behind the second Trump assassination attempt

    Journalists exist to uncover the truth behind the news cycle’s biggest stories. That’s the whole point.

    Is America’s mainstream press reaching that bar after the second Trump assassination attempt? Take some of the purported “facts” that have hit the cable news airwaves over the past few days and decide for yourself.

    The man who tried to kill Donald Trump was a Trump supporter. They really said that.

    Iran did this. What? Didn’t the suspect volunteer in Ukraine?

    And of course, there’s hardly any mention of the actual fact that this attempted murderer has been in direct contact with numerous government officials for years. Why wouldn’t they report that?

    This story leaves a lot to unpack, and it was at the center of last night’s Tucker Carlson Live in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Click the image below to hear Tucker’s revealing speech and on-stage discussion with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Larry Elder.


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  34. mh says:

    Looks like a good doco

    Springfield, Ohio Is Under A Migration Invasion. Is Your Town Next?

    Nick Johnson
    1M subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOuNn-PI9j0


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  35. mh says:

    When this story broke, which was immediately after the attack occurred, the MSM and QLD police hid the fact the attacker was Asian.

    ‘Exceptionally difficult’: Expert reveals why extraditing foreign national who allegedly poured hot coffee over baby could be a challenge

    https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/exceptionally-difficult-expert-reveals-why-extraditing-foreign-national-who-allegedly-poured-hot-coffee-over-baby-could-be-a-challenge/news-story/2f78e2df1bcc3cf521c8d2ab4f7ad8c4


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  36. mh says:

    Nicholas J. Fuentes
    @NickJFuentes

    The United States should ban the import of all Israeli-made products after the attacks in Lebanon.

    1:27 AM · Sep 19, 2024 · 406K Views


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  37. kaysee kaysee says:

    Mis/Dis-information Bill

    Mis-Dis-1
    So ACMA makes a recommendation to the government to give ACMA more power.
    And the govt says: Yes.

    Communications Minister Michelle Rowland has confirmed that ACMA will accept its recommendation to become the enforcement agency of the ‘Combatting Misinformation & Disinformation Bill’ if it becomes law.

    Welcome to the Ministry of Truth.

    Mis-Dis-2

    Cracking down disinformation? No, they want to crackdown activists and whistle blowers

    Mis-Dis-3
    Free Speech Union of Australia
    Fight the Mis/Dis/Info Bill!

    We have provided a tool below that helps you to write to crossbench Senator’s, in order to try and persuade them that this Bill is wrong.

    This is one of the most important fights for Free Speech we have on our hands.


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  38. kaysee kaysee says:

    But wait, there’s more

    1/
    Hate crime and gender lawfare
    (Click the article link in the tweet to read it, otherwise it is paywalled.)

    Worse than the Misinformation and Disinformation Bill?

    There are fears that the Hate Crimes Bill could further weaponise LGBTQ activism against conservatives who may no longer be free to criticise cultural questions surrounding gender and sexuality.

    2/
    Kirralie Smith
    A win.

    1 yr ago today. A male soccer player tried to take out an apprehension of violence order against me.

    The police withdrew because it is obvious that truth speech is NOT violence!

    Men are not women & do NOT belong in women’s sport!


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  39. kaysee kaysee says:

    Canadian Paralympian:
    I asked for a disability ramp – and was offered euthanasia

    A Canadian army veteran and former Paralympian said she was offered euthanasia after enquiring about installing a disabled lift in her home.

    Christine Gauthier, who served 10 years in the Canadian armed forces and represented her country in the 2016 Paralympic Games, was told she had the “right to die” by a caseworker from Veterans Affairs Canada (VAC), a government agency.


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  40. kaysee kaysee says:

    Addressed to any serious readers who want to take part in the blog, as regular contributors, but are hesitant or don’t know how to begin. Here are some suggestions:

    There are many important topics to post on, but just three of us here on a regular basis cannot handle it. In a comment in last month’s thread, I listed a few topics.

    It is a choice to take part or lurk. There is no shortage of news events taking place.

    Covid, climate change, cost of living, electric vehicles, wokeism, economy, politicians, Census 2026, elections, gender ideology, wars, DEI, corruption, free speech, digital ids, WEF, globalism, or any other politics or non-politics topics.

    If you want to get into the active participation, pick any issue that you are familiar with and post one comment on that topic every day, for one week. It can be your opinion, analysis, experience or a link to some info. At the end of the week, every serious reader on the blog will have learnt something on the topic you posted. That’s what this blog is about. Sharing for others to learn.

    Try it for another week. Use the same topic or pick another one. Initially, it may feel awkward. Once you commit yourself to regularly posting on the blog, it gets easy. It will also give you the experience of being on the other side; an involved, active poster, not a passive, lurking reader. You will experience what it is like to spend some time in research, and then to post what you’ve learnt. It is easy to be a passive reader/lurker, but participating takes some effort, and it is a choice.

    Don’t expect responses to what you post. You may get replies or not. You may get some who agree or disagree – that is free speech.

    So if anyone wants to take up the challenge and try it out, you’ll find that after the initial weeks, it is easy to get into the serious blogging cycle here. And you’ll learn a lot about the subjects you post on.


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  41. kaysee kaysee says:

    Would this be an out-dated vision in 2024?

    US Presidential debate in 1992. One-minute answer.
    Ross Perot was asked to give his vision for America.

    Replies to the tweet:

    – I’m old enough to remember when conservatives always talked about the importance of the nuclear family as the foundation of a good society — an idea that goes back at least as far as Aristotle (pretty much every good idea does…but I digress).

    – The family unit is key. No amount of government funding can make up for a broken family and a strong family can overcome even the worst schools.

    – When & where did this Timeline go wrong ?.

    – this is all about what we have been talking about, and we will until our final breaths are drawn.

    it has always, ALWAYS, been about the children.

    .
    Hostage Rescue story


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  42. mh says:

    I asked for a disability ramp – and was offered euthanasia

    That is so Canada.


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