Open Thread – November 2023

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  1. mh says:

    Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸
    @jacksonhinklle
    🚨🇮🇱 The front page of Iran’s Tehran Times publishes the names of the children ISRAEL has MURDERED in GAZA!

    https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1719482541902561480?s=20


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  2. mh says:

    The Chosen Ones, huh

    How Israeli Apartheid Destroyed My Hometown

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEdGcej-6D0


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  3. mh says:

    Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸
    @jacksonhinklle
    🚨🇮🇱 KIDNAPPED Palestinian in the West Bank, forced to chant “Long live Israel” & an Israeli flag is put on his back.

    https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1719538629238726757?s=20

    ***

    Meanwhile

    Bolivia severs diplomatic ties with Israel as Chile and Colombia recall their ambassadors

    Bolivia’s government has severed diplomatic relations with Israel, accusing it of carrying out “crimes against humanity” in the Gaza Strip


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  4. mh says:

    Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸
    @RepMTG
    🚨🚨🚨
    I will be voting NO on all funding packages for the Ukraine war (as I have from the beginning) and now the Israel war.

    We have had over 10 MILLION people illegally cross our border since Biden took office and we are over $33 TRILLION dollars in debt with many major problems afflicting Americans.

    The United States government needs to focus on spending American’s hard earned tax dollars on our own country and needs to serve the American people NOT the rest of the world.

    I voted YES on both resolutions condemning the attack on Ukraine and the attack on Israel however I will continue to vote NO on spending American’s hard earned tax dollars to fund wars defending foreign country’s borders while our own border is overrun and our own national security is at risk.

    Also Ukraine and Israel are very different.

    Ukraine is completely propped up by the US and continues to beg for more US tax dollars while Washington fights it’s proxy war with Russia and Israel is a strong thriving independent nation that prides itself on defending their own people.

    Also, there is $3.8 billion dollars readily available to Israel in the Defense approps bill and the State and Foreign Ops bill, but Schumer and the Senate have not lifted a finger to pass those bills and Biden has not signed them into law.

    Our Republican House majority and new Speaker Johnson should refuse any more funding bills until the Senate does it’s job and our border is secure.

    We’ve done our job in the House and we must keep passing our remaining Approps bills.

    The Democrat controlled Senate has passed ZERO percent of the budget, while the House has passed over 70% of the budget.

    I’m tired of the games.

    I’m tired of the lies.

    I’m sick and tired and fed up with America LAST!!!

    1:26 AM · Oct 30, 2023·1.7M Views


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  5. kaysee kaysee says:

    I used to consider myself centre-right, but wouldn’t even know what that is now. I’m more anti-narrative, and there is lots of material. Sometimes I post links for my own benefit to watch in full later. Stuff like this:

    mh, the goal posts have been shifting over the past few years. This was depicted in the meme that Elon Musk tweeted reflecting his position.

    I still consider myself a Conservative – my core values are the same.

    Three years ago, I was a Trump supporter. Now, I’m not.
    Have I changed? No. What I have observed and learnt over the past two years+ has convinced me that this person is a vengeful narcissist. Those are not the qualities of a leader. I didn’t pull that decision out of thin air. It is based on a rational process. I have posted over 100 comments related to the US Election and Trump which provided the facts.

    What is astonishing is that many people who call themselves conservatives and/or Christians (and include this in their social media bio with cross emojis) are willing to overlook and support someone who betrays the fundamentals of the faith. And they are mocking the candidate who is both a true conservative and a Christian.

    To use the American phrase: Go figure.

    Now, with the Israel-Palestine conflict, over the past few weeks, I have learnt things I did not know previously. I came across many articles and videos – including those shared by others on the blog – and all that has been an eye-opener. In the months to come, we will learn more.

    I would classify myself as a truth-seeker. I want to find out the facts. I want to know the real accounts of what taken place in the past and what is happening now. I don’t follow crowds. I don’t live or act by what is perceived as “the right thing to do or say.”

    Truth is not served up on a platter so, sometimes, what appears to be truth may turn out to be fake, and what appears to be fake may turn out to be the truth. So, I would rather search for the truth and to find that can mean spending time digging into the non-MSM areas, asking questions, thinking and analysing.


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  6. kaysee kaysee says:

    There is not much of a discussion group now,……..

    Sometimes I post links for my own benefit to watch in full later.

    We have a Free Speech platform.

    I follow the Post-and-Go policy. ^‿^
    I post what I want to share: info, links, opinions, rants +++

    If blog readers want to come in, Read-and-Go – okay.
    If any of them want to take part, share, respond, discuss, debate, disagree – okay.


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  7. kaysee kaysee says:

    Macgregor’s position is valid, the Hamas murder of innocent Israeli citizens is unforgivable, but so to is the slaughter of innocent Palestinians, collective punishment can’t be excused and it has no place in a civilised world.

    That should be the concern of every thinking, civilised person.

    If the IDF and Hamas (and ISIS and Hezbollah and Taliban) want to meet on a battlefield and wound, maim, kill each other to decide who is superior, they can do so. But the massacre of the innocent (men, women, children, babies), regardless of the side to which they belong, is totally wrong.

    If Israel wants to take the high ground and claim that innocent Israelis, including babies, were brutally killed, wounded or taken hostage so their retaliation is justified, where does it end?

    This post last month was from Justin Amash who lives in the US.

    In another article I came across the following:

    Bahbah reported that the explosion at the Greek Orthodox church compound took the life of a Caritas lab technician, Viola Amash. Five members of Amash’s immediate family were also killed when the building collapsed.

    Six members of one Christian family, including a baby.

    Because Hamas terrorists killed innocent Jewish-Israelis, it was fair exchange for other innocent civilians including one Christian family to have 6 members killed by the Israeli Defence Forces.

    The missile blasts, which struck a building on the church compound on Thursday, killed 18 people, including children, and injured several others, according to reports received by the Holy Orthodox Order of St. George, a “pan-Orthodox” aid group…..

    Cardinal Pizzaballa said that the Catholic community in Gaza City has decided to stay.

    “First of all because they don’t know where to go and then because they say that no place in the Gaza Strip is safe,” he explained.

    “Let’s hope that reason returns to those who make decisions,” the patriarch said during the interview.


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  8. kaysee kaysee says:

    I came across this term Pallywood, last week. If you haven’t heard of it before, it is a portmanteau of “Palestine” and “Hollywood”. It is used to imply media manipulation by Palestinians during times of conflict with Israel.

    Anywhere in the media, especially social media, there is plenty of propaganda on any issue. Including this conflict. What I have discovered is the distortions, hype and fabrications on both sides. So I don’t know if the same term is used in either case or if there is a different one.

    Examples:
    1/
    From Palestine-side

    Watch the video and read the Community Note below it.
    The video is of a protest in Egypt in 2013.
    .

    2/
    Israel-side
    The comment reads:
    Bodies can’t move their heads.

    Watch the video carefully. A commenter explains:
    The cloth is tied around the corpse’s neck so when the man pulled on it, the head moved.

    We need to be careful to note who is posting the clips, videos or info.
    From some of the examples posted on our blog:
    -Irish MEP posted by Middle East Eye
    – Professor Norman Finkelstein by Islam channel
    So each side will pick and choose what suits their narrative – never mind the facts.

    Better to be really cautious about posting anything from Jackson Hinkle. He is not what he appears to be, that is, just an ordinary person fighting for human rights. I think he is a paid shill and is using the tragedies to benefit himself. He is earning revenue for the number of views on twitter – total in the billions, surpassing Elon Musk. He is sensationalising every piece of info/misinfo and posting only what favours one side.


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  9. kaysee kaysee says:

    Palestinian Christians: Correcting the Narrative | The London Circle

    Al Hiwar TV English

    This is how intelligent discussions take place. No dramas, no raised voices. Each participant listening to the others with respect. Maybe, these are the people who can work out a solution? Get rid of the politicians and the terrorist thugs.

    But….
    This video was posted on October 4. Three days before the massacre in Gaza. Coincidence?

    Again, this is like the Jesus was a Palestinian Jew. Trying to form a unity ticket with Christians (temporarily) to push a certain cause?

    Another example is Galloway’s interview with Hijab re Piers Morgan.

    These are highly educated, well-spoken Muslims. Many of them live in the western countries. But where is their final loyalty?

    The UK

    1/
    Facts about Scotland
    .

    2/
    Protestors- Parliament Square
    .

    3/
    In the aftermath the Hamas attack, a new party has registered with the Electoral Commission in the UK:
    The Party


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  10. kaysee kaysee says:

    Is Covid-vaxxing still mandatory in October 2023?

    Nurse fired from SA Health

    I was fired as a Nurse from SAhealth today for refusing to have a covid-19 shot.

    I have a post graduate degree in mental health and emergency nursing..

    Plus

    A Masters degree in Nurse Practitioner.

    They fired me on my 40th birthday day🫨


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  11. mh says:

    Some great posts, KC, and worthy of discussion.
    Not tonight though as I’ve been off work today with a migraine and looking at my IPad doesn’t help.

    When I post a vid – such as GG with Muhammad Hijab lol – I’m not giving them a character assessment. I just think particular video is worth airing.

    Example, this guy linked below might be a lunatic but this speech I agree with

    A Breathtaking Speech in The Heart of London! – Exposing I$r@el!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qi9vwlk5dg


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  12. mh says:

    Thomas Massie
    @RepThomasMassie
    This week the House will vote on $14.5 billion foreign aid package for Israel, in addition to the $3.8 billion that already passed. I will be a NO vote. Less than 1/3 of the 49,000 people who responded to my poll today support this additional funding. We simply can’t afford it.

    https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1718784106094330366?s=20


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  13. kaysee kaysee says:

    When I post a vid – such as GG with Muhammad Hijab lol – I’m not giving them a character assessment. I just think particular video is worth airing.

    Some people have this in their twitter bio:
    Retweets are not automatically to be considered endorsements.
    They are retweeting because there is something in there for the reader to check out and think about.

    However, some links just provide fodder and encouragement to some unpleasant and nasty characters. They get clicks and views and will interpret that as support, and they earn revenue as well. It is a bit tricky working out when to post a link that exposes them and when to keep from letting them have a platform to spout their garbage.

    Example, this guy linked below might be a lunatic but this speech I agree with

    A Breathtaking Speech in The Heart of London! – Exposing I$r@el!

    I couldn’t cope with this for even a few minutes. No way will I find any agreement or unity with the likes of these people. There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim. I wrote a post about that. I have no sympathy for that race or culture.

    They are using this conflict for their own agenda. They don’t care about Palestine or the Palestinian people. They will use them as shields.

    My concern with this Gaza war is three-fold:

    1/ The massacre (harming, torturing, kidnapping, murder) of innocent civilians

    2/ How and why it reached this crisis point

    3/ The possibility that this is going to escalate into a World War.


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  14. kaysee kaysee says:

    I have experienced some jolts to my way of thinking – until one month ago, I was mostly on the side of Israel.

    With reference to all those busy virtue-signalling about how the good Israelis should be supported against the bad guys. They have not bothered to do any research except follow the “news” from the sources that suit the narrative they prefer.

    Those who are asking questions because they want to know how and why and what is going to happen next, will learn and expand their knowledge. The rest can sit back and call the “conspiracy theorists” whatever names they want. Until, like Covid, they will realise the truth much later.

    Most Western nations don’t want war. There are Arab nations who don’t want war. But, as has been said, if it escalates, the Arab nations will feel compelled to join in to aid Hamas. Even in the IDF, there is no confidence that they will be able to destroy Hamas. The other terrorist groups will join in.

    This will mean that the US and its allies will have to get involved. It will build up into a war involving the whole world. I think it was a GG interview where Chris Hedges said that if the US got caught up in the war, it would result in terrorist attacks in the US where Americans would be killed.

    Worried about the cost of living now? Don’t fret. When WW3 begins, you’ll be looking back at October 2023 and calling it the good old days when grocery bills were lower, fuel was cheaper, and there were no shortages. As for the death toll in each country ….

    But the ones calling for cease-fire and peace, the ones pointing out that the emperor has no clothes are the ones who are being called anti-semites.


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  15. kaysee kaysee says:

    I don’t have time to write long comments. I want to keep learning and doing my own research. I also have other projects to complete.

    So I’ll mostly post links and short comments. If you are interested, check them out. Decide whether the content in them is facts, partly-true, hoaxes, conspiracies, fake or something else. I don’t have access to a fact-checking machine.

    If you want to debate or discuss, I am happy to respond when time permits. But you need to be willing to make the effort to do some thinking and analysing, too.

    1/
    Ex-IDF (Israel Defense Forces)
    “It’s An Inside Job!”
    .

    2/
    Intelligence analysts Jeffrey Prather, Gen. Michael Flynn both agree:
    Israel STOOD DOWN to allow Hamas to unleash terror
    .

    3/
    Meme
    .


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  16. kaysee kaysee says:

    4/
    Hamas Official:
    We Will Repeat October 7 Terror Attack Until Israel is Annihilated

    .

    5/
    World War 3 Imminent:
    Opposition Both Inside the U.S. and Outside the U.S. Grows as Children Continue to be Massacred in Palestinian Genocide

    .

    6/
    Israel ceased to exist as a corporation yesterday
    .


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  17. kaysee kaysee says:

    7/
    Israel-Hamas conflict:

    A senior military commander has conceded the Israeli Defence Forces knew there were countless innocent men, women and children in a refugee camp it was targeting, but dropped bombs anyway.

    ………………..

    About that anti-semitism and those horrible anti-semites ……

    a/
    Massie is called anti-semitic
    for putting America First and not voting for the $14 Billion package to Israel.
    .

    b/
    They’re Panicking.
    They’re Calling Rabbis, Holocaust Survivors Antisemitic: Rafael Shimunov

    .

    Does anyone want to provide the most up-to-date definition of Anti-Semitism?


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  18. mh says:

    I couldn’t cope with this for even a few minutes. No way will I find any agreement or unity with the likes of these people.

    KC, the speaker addresses people like you with your biases. It’s why he says you don’t have to listen him, but research what (insert xxx Israeli/Jew) are saying.

    Genocide is genocide no matter who is doing it and to whom.


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  19. Old bloke says:

    Gazans heading our way. Secret Israeli document talks about resettling Gaza Palestinians (2.2 million of them) in Greece, Spain and Canada. I’m sure Albo had his hands up too, “Please Mr Biden, can we have some of them too”.

    I was right. – PJW – 8 mins.


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  20. mh says:

    Democrat Senator to Lloyd Austen

    Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸
    @jacksonhinklle
    🚨🇺🇸🇮🇱 Senator Van Hollen EXPOSES the fact that ISRAEL has KILLED 6 times more children in Gaza in 3 weeks, than have been killed in the ENTIRE UKRAINE WAR!

    🇮🇱 Van Hollen also admits that someone he knows well in Gaza just had FOUR CHILDREN KILLED!

    https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1719896889368219722?s=20


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  21. mh says:

    Whatever he can do to help

    Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸
    @jacksonhinklle
    🇰🇵🇮🇱 Kim Jong in has reportedly instructed North Korean government officials to provide support to Palestine, including potential weapons shipments to Hamas.

    🚨 North Korea does NOT recognize a state of Israel.

    https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1719879476312469544?s=20


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  22. kaysee kaysee says:

    Gazans heading our way. Secret Israeli document talks about resettling Gaza Palestinians (2.2 million of them) in Greece, Spain and Canada

    PJW is Anti-Semitic. The label for anyone who can see the facts or questions the Israeli government’s plans and policies.

    I don’t care what Israel wants. We don’t want anymore of them

    Coming soon to Europe: Sharia Patrols.

    Netanyahu declares a “second war of independence”. New reservists called up for war. But
    Netanyahu’s son remains in Miami
    The 32-year-old is living in Florida, where he moved earlier this year after he was successfully sued for defamation in Israel


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  23. mh says:

    This is sure to be good value

    US Marine Corps Officer Scott Ritter Reveals TRUTH About Israel War

    Cyrus Janssen

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV_HsiJg8Io


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  24. kaysee kaysee says:

    Governor Ron DeSantis | PBD Podcast
    1 hr

    Both the host of the show and his guest were a great combination for the podcast. The questions were good and asked in a skilful manner.

    RDS answers show the depth and intellect of the man. Questions related to policy and plans were answered with clarity and details. The ones which were of a personal nature, he responded in a friendly manner.

    America along with the world is dealing with wars, cost of living, economy, border control, drugs, the reset tyrants, various hoaxes. Yet, all that MAGA has on this guy is discussing his height and the cowboy boots he wears.


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  25. mh says:

    DeSantis wears ‘lifts’.

    It’s the lying about it I dislike.


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  26. kaysee kaysee says:

    MAGA god

    and a sample of the voters.

    Maga Voter-1
    .

    Maga Voter-2
    .

    Little wonder that they are focussed on DeSantis’ boots and his height.
    Not on his policies, his track record or the greater good of the country.


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  27. kaysee kaysee says:

    🐹

    Important Questions:

    One
    .

    Two
    .

    Three
    .


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  28. mh says:

    Just leaving this here for later viewing

    Israel Spokesman Stuns CNN’s Wolf Blitzer With Brutal Admission

    The Rational National
    544K subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RihPfMEBluI


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  29. mh says:

    8 mins of entertainment

    James O’Brien refutes caller’s claims that ‘Palestine protests are hateful’ | LBC

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD2g6fzSYW4


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  30. Old bloke says:

    Malcolm Roberts still at work.

    AHPRA Muzzled GPs for Questioning COVID Jabs – 5 mins.


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  31. mh says:

    America First … lol

    Trump Promises VENGEANCE Against Hamas – Goes Full Warmonger!

    The Jimmy Dore Show

    Former US president Donald Trump opened his speech at the Republican Jewish Coalition’s conference by declaring, “I love Israel. I love Israel.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2FDzFjQI9w


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  32. Old bloke says:

    Anyone pushing Net Zero needs to have their head examined.

    The Road to Serfdom: Australia’s MAD dash for Net Zero | MGUY Australia – 4 mins.


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  33. mh says:

    8 million views today.
    What an eye opener

    Dan Cohen
    @dancohen3000
    Zionist forces brutally assault Orthodox Jews in the streets of Jerusalem for opposing genocide in Gaza. Haven’t seen this kind of state violence against Jews since Nazi Germany. Images like this destroy the myth that the State of Israel is Jewish.

    https://x.com/dancohen3000/status/1719752311684071469?s=20


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  34. mh says:

    Israeli Ground Operations Begin in Gaza as Wider US-led Regional War Looms

    The New Atlas

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfIhVK_fOTU


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  35. kaysee kaysee says:

    Even though we are just a few of us here (for now, my co-posters are mh and Old bloke), it is good to know that we are a small team concerned about what is taking place and are searching for the truth.

    I am pleased to be coming across sites and links that are asking serious questions and giving information and some history lessons. We don’t have to agree with everything we read or view but if it makes us think and question the narratives that are being fed to us by politicians, governments, media and special interest groups, we are on the path to not being brainwashed. And getting wiser about the truth.

    I posted this meme in the Narrative control post and I will keep re-posting at intervals.

    I am going to do quick drops of what I find. Like mh, I am going to sometimes add videos which I am bookmarking to watch later. This allows those who have the time to watch to go ahead and do so.


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  36. kaysee kaysee says:

    8 million views today.
    What an eye opener

    It is now 10.8 million.

    I’ve come across a twitter account called Torah Judaism
    The bio says
    Jews united against Zionism
    .
    Torah-1

    Reminder, this video is an old one. The reason why we share it is so that you can see the oppression committed by the Zionists against the Jews, which is not shown in the mainstream media.

    .

    Torah-2

    Being against the Israeli regime or Zionism does not make you anti-Semitic. Zionism is not Judaism. The state of Israel is not the state of the Jews. Do not be afraid, being against them does not make you an enemy of the Jews.

    .

    Torah-3

    The common discourse of these messages is that if you are against Israel, then why do you live there?

    Now let’s clarify this issue.


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  37. kaysee kaysee says:

    Clip-1
    Scott Ritter interview

    .

    Clip-2

    Journalist Israel Frey fled to a hiding place after hundreds of right-wing bullies attacked his home and attempted to harm him. He asked me to share this message with you. It’s a bit long, but please listen and share even if you don’t agree (I have reservations too) so that we can show everyone that we won’t stop fighting until people like Frey can express their opinion in democratic Israel without fear

    .

    Clip-3
    Suez Canal story.
    Why America is involved
    Fake or true?


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  38. kaysee kaysee says:

    The Mystery Of Israel
    1 hr

    I haven’t watched it yet.

    The film exposes something so nefarious, so evil, so mind-blowing that many will find it hard to believe. Yet it is true.

    This film can deliver a fatal blow to the satanic elites, who want to establish a world government to enslave all of humanity.

    The shocking secrets unveiled by this incredible documentary will shine a blazing light on those who have always been hiding behind the state of Israel.


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  39. kaysee kaysee says:

    Just watched the video and decided to put it on the blog as a post.


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  40. Old bloke says:

    Biden White House looking for a replacement for Netanyahu.

    Zaluzhny, Ukraine military parity with Russia. Biden wants Netanyahu gone. Meloni prank. U/1 – from the 19 minute mark – Alex Christoforou

    The Democrats are concerned about losing the Arab American vote which is big in some states so they want Netanyahu gone. That reminds me of Henry Kissinger’s comment a week or two ago, that mass migration to the West was a “fatal mistake”.


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