Open Thread – August 2024

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  1. mh says:

    I’ve watched the first ten mins, and Tate gets straight to the issue of civics nationalism v race nationalism.

    The child-killer was born in Wales of Rwandan immigrant parents. THIS DOES NOT MAKE HIM A WELSHMAN.

    “Complete Fake News Bullsh*t!” Piers Morgan vs Andrew Tate On Riots

    Piers Morgan Uncensored

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRNhkQpp0wU


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  2. kaysee kaysee says:

    You still hold out hope regarding politicians and “democracy”, kaysee? When we acknowledge it’s a uniparty ultimately controlled by globalists playing off groups of people off against each other?

    We learnt about the Great Reset plans during Covid. But October 7 has revealed to the whole world a deeper agenda. It has sorted the ones who really believe in freedom and free speech from those who don’t. Politicians, media, so-called free speech believers and advocates, the real world controllers.

    What is happening in Britain, the US Elections, elsewhere, all connected.

    We have to keep sharing what we know – the truth vs the media fiction – for as long as we have a real free speech platform.


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  3. kaysee kaysee says:

    Israel is still your ally? These are your values?
    The only democracy in the Middle East?
    The most moral army in the world?

    1/
    In the Middle East
    Sde Teiman
    Footage Of Israelis Ra*Ping A Palestinian Inside Prison.

    2/
    In the US – land of the free
    Scott Ritter
    He criticises Israel in his interview with Judge Napolitano

    3/
    FBI raid
    Next day FBI raid on his home


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  4. kaysee kaysee says:

    4/
    This report is from B’Tselem, so it is likely an objective source.

    B’Tselem is The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories. It strives for a future in which human rights, liberty and equality are guaranteed to all people, Palestinian and Jewish alike, living between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea

    Welcome to Hell

    “Welcome to Hell” is a report on the abuse and inhuman treatment of Palestinians held in Israeli custody since 7 October 2023. B’Tselem collected testimonies from 55 Palestinians held during that time and released, almost all with no charges. Their testimonies reveal the outcomes of the rushed transformation of more than a dozen Israeli prison facilities, military and civilian, into a network of camps dedicated to the abuse of inmates as a matter of policy. Facilities in which every inmate is deliberately subjected to harsh, relentless pain and suffering operate as de-facto torture camps


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  5. kaysee kaysee says:

    5/
    Chas Freeman

    There’s a myth in the US that Israel is a victim. That’s deliberately cultivated by the Israelis. But they in fact are the provocateur. Israel united—for the first time in 1400 years—Sunni and Shia against a common enemy.

    Can the world tolerate a government like that in Israel that seems to be willing to conduct any criminal, despicable, degenerate, indecent act against human beings who are not Jewish? The Netanyahu government is pushing Israel into the abyss. If you don’t communicate the way the official narrative goes, you’re toast.


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  6. mh says:

    Piers Morgan gets upset about a Nick Fuentes tweet in the middle of that Tate interview.

    Hilarious.


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  7. kaysee kaysee says:

    6/
    But it isn’t just the Muslims who are being persecuted.

    While Christians in the West support the Zionists, here’s what is taking place.

    a/
    Layan,
    A Palestinian Christian, arrested without charges.

    b/
    Bethlehem-West Bank-1
    A Christian Palestinian family, being forcibly evicted

    c/
    Bethlehem, West Bank-2
    How to steal land.


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  8. mh says:

    Speaking of Nick, here is the Louis Theroux episode where he investigates Nick Fuentes and his supporters.

    Louis is his usual pretentious self.

    Louis Theroux – Forbidden America (2022 Documentary)

    https://archive.org/details/louis-theroux-forbidden-america


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  9. kaysee kaysee says:

    GOP Primaries

    June:
    Virginia: Bob Good
    A GOP congressman with 100% conservative voting record and no controversies lost to John McGuire who was endorsed by Trump.

    August:
    MichiganJustin Amash
    Trump endorsed Mike Rogers with a 53% score beats Justin Amash with a 86% score.

    The GOP is not interested in getting the best candidates to win against the Dems. It is about personal vendettas against those who do not kiss the boots vs rewarding those who are sycophants.

    This is the endorsement criteria. And Maga will do as told.


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  10. Esme says:

    Piers Morgan gets upset about a Nick Fuentes tweet in the middle of that Tate interview.

    One of the comments under it

    Remember when Piers got this upset by people refusing to take the covid vaccine. When he called them all potential murderers

    He was one of the worst. Claimed he was following The Science and then The Science changed. Find it hard to look at or listen to him.


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  11. Esme says:

    Jimmy Dore

    Censorship is the Hallmark of dictators & Authoritarian regimes. The Democratic Party has abandoned any semblance of being for liberty and Free Speech & have in fact turned into the thing they claim to hate.

    Democrats are now FOR Censorship, FOR forced medical experiments, FOR more War & FOR funding genocide, For rigging primaries and installing presidential candidates without a single vote. But remember — DEMOCRACY IS ON THE BALLOT!


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  12. mh says:

    Claimed he was following The Science and then The Science changed. Find it hard to look at or listen to him.

    I find the confrontational format annoying on Piers’ show, so rarely view it.

    I did listen to all of that episode however.

    Summary:
    Piers thought he nailed Tate by forcing him to answer certain questions, but Tate then responds with a more relevant point. So I give the W to Andrew and the L to Piers.

    Example, Tate after some cajoling says he personally does believe that you are British if you are born in Britain.
    Piers then thinks he won the argument and moves on, but Tate then says it doesn’t matter what his own views are, the point is there are a huge number of Britons that don’t hold that view. Tate says dismissing their views is the problem.

    Andrew Tate
    @Cobratate

    Typical man from Cardiff.

    https://x.com/Cobratate/status/1819035477799768396


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  13. Esme says:

    I find the confrontational format annoying on Piers’ show, so rarely view it.

    I did listen to all of that episode however.

    Thanks for the summary, mh. A lot of focus on country of birth/ancestry but not on the acting experience of the young ‘perpetrator’.


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  14. Esme says:

    David Kurten

    The UK is now seeing Soviet levels of propaganda with fake stories of ‘100 riots planned’ by the ‘far-right’ which never happened supplanted with puff pieces for regime backed far-left ‘counter-demonstrations’.


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  15. mh says:

    Andrew Tate
    @Cobratate

    Not a single action plan on how to prevent little girls getting stabbed.

    Not one.

    Its not even the conversation anymore.

    The conversation is “yay more immigration! Im a good person!”

    The matrix has redirected the sheep.

    They could easily do Covid all over again.

    9:03 PM · Aug 8, 2024 · 1.4M Views


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  16. mh says:

    Sportsbet

    Kamala Harris 1.83

    Donald Trump 1.91


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  17. mh says:

    Pavvy G
    @pavyg

    Labour councillor Ricky Jones has now thankfully been arrested by the Police.

    Labour the “be nice” party.

    Until someone disagrees with them that is.

    https://x.com/pavyg/status/1821573465075581271


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  18. mh says:

    BBC

    Councillor arrested over counter-protest remarks

    Suspended Labour councillor Ricky Jones has been arrested on suspicion of encouraging murder after comments at a London counter-protest.

    Videos had emerged online reportedly showing Mr Jones telling a crowd in Walthamstow that far right demonstrators needed to have their throats cut.

    A Labour spokesperson said: “This behaviour is completely unacceptable and it will not be tolerated.”

    Mr Jones, and Dartford’s newly elected Labour MP Jim Dickson, have been approached for comment.

    On Thursday, the Metropolitan Police said a man in his 50s had been arrested in south east London on suspicion of encouraging murder and for an offence under the Public Order Act. He remains in custody.

    In video that has circulated on social media, a man at the rally was filmed apparently saying: “They are disgusting Nazi fascists and we need to cut all their throats and get rid of them all.”

    Reform leader Nigel Farage had called on X for Dartford councillor Mr Jones to be arrested.

    Mr Jones, who has represented the Princes ward since 2019, will be unable to sit on the Labour benches at Dartford Borough Council meetings.


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  19. mh says:

    Nick Griffin joins Stew Peters

    Tommy Robinson EXPOSED: Zionist-Funded Right-Wing Poser Sparks British Race War

    Stew Peters Network
    549K followers

    https://rumble.com/v5a89q5-tommy-robinson-exposed-zionist-funded-right-wing-poser-sparks-british-race-.html


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  20. mh says:

    Max on the Israeli gang rapists

    Max Blumenthal : Netanyahu At His Worst

    Judge Napolitano – Judging Freedom
    420K subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml6foonLTqU


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  21. mh says:

    The only piece of the Paris Olympics I have wanted to see is the performance of the Australian known as Raygun in the ‘breakdancing’.

    Unfortunately it appears to be so tragic and awful that it is banned on the internet.

    If anyone has a link to the footage (not pics) I will be grateful.


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  22. Interested observer says:

    The routine was broadcast on the free to air news. I am sure she had a lot of fun and a trip to Paris without any expectation of scoring a medal.

    However, if she had been able to claim aboriginal heritage, the routine would have been applauded as traditional culture.


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  23. mh says:

    Al Jizz

    Israel committed ‘new crime against humanity’ in school attack: Turkey

    The Turkish Foreign Ministry has released a statement condemning Israel’s dawn attack on a prayer hall at al-Tabin school in Gaza City, which was sheltering hundreds of displaced Palestinians.

    It said that Israel is responsible for “massacring” more than 100 civilians who had taken refuge in the school.

    “This attack demonstrates once again that the Netanyahu government intends to sabotage the negotiations for a permanent ceasefire,” the statement continues.

    “International actors who do not take steps to stop Israel are complicit in Israel’s crimes.”


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  24. mh says:

    Nil points, but in the running for AOTY

    Via AP

    Rachael Gunn, or “b-girl Raygun,” a 36-year-old professor from Sydney, Australia, quickly achieved internet fame, but not necessarily for Olympic-level skill. Competing against some b-girls half her age, she was swept out of the round-robin stage without earning a single point, and her unconventional moves landed flat while failing to match the skill level of her foes.

    At one point, Gunn raised one leg while standing and leaned back with her arms bent toward her ears. At another, while laying on her side, she reached for her toes, flipped over and did it again in a move dubbed “the kangaroo.”

    Gunn has a Ph.D. in cultural studies, and her LinkedIn page notes she is “interested in the cultural politics of breaking.”

    “I was never going to beat these girls on what they do best — their power moves,” said Gunn. “What I bring is creativity.”


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  25. mh says:

    Time to switch off the AJA’s Rowan Dean, and switch on Ron Unz

    The State of Israel as “Cartoonishly Evil”? • 42m ▶

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-state-of-israel-as-cartoonishly-evil/

    https://www.unz.com/CONTENTS/AUDIO/runz/Unz-CartoonishlyEvil.mp3


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  26. mh says:

    Courier Mail has a lengthy article not paywalled

    ‘Travesty’: How the Olympics’ breaking farce was allowed to happen

    https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/olympics/travesty-how-the-olympics-breaking-farce-was-allowed-to-happen/news-story/b6ff855d78232f4e6d7da82e7475bc64

    … Breaking will not be returning for the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles – and Brisbane Olympic officials will get the ultimate say on whether the sport will be resuscitated in eight years’ time.

    Judging on the largely scathing reviews of Gunn’s performance, the sport’s hopes of ever returning to the Olympics are the same as the Aussie’s score after three “battles” at the La Concorde Urban Park. Zero.

    It is obvious, however, that Gunn’s deliberately daggy lawn bowls ensemble, kangaroo hops and sprinkler moves are just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to explaining how this trainwreck charged to its doom.…


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  27. kaysee kaysee says:

    The FDA’s War Against Sleep

    Why There Isn’t a Cure for Insomnia

    In 1964, a sleeping medication hit the market that was remarkably effective for a variety of conditions (including insomnia) and hence profoundly improved the health of its recipients. Because it threatened so many different drug markets, once it reached America in 1990, the FDA in collusion with the media launched a ten-year take down of it, which in many regards was almost identical to what they did to ivermectin. It was successful, and very few people are even aware that this drug exists or that the many of sleeping disorders we face are easily treatable.


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  28. kaysee kaysee says:

    The Fear Pandemics

    1/
    Bird Flu

    The current Bird Flu has been used on several fronts. One is the obvious narrative of creating a potential public health emergency….

    2/
    Monkey Pox

    The World Health Organization is convening a special meeting to consider monkeypox a public health emergency of international concern.

    Get vaxxed to get unhealthy.

    3/
    Vaxx components

    NEW STUDY – COVID-19 injection components, including DNA and mRNA material, spike protein, and lipid nanoparticles increase oxidative stress and trigger systemic inflammatory response syndrome


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  29. kaysee kaysee says:

    Bassem Youssef

    Bassem-1
    Why do we only talk about Israel?
    .
    Bassem-2
    With Theo Von – short clip
    .
    Bassem-3
    Full interview with Theo Von.
    Good explanations from Bassem.

    Occasionally, it goes off-topic, but you can scroll forward to skip that. They are both comedians – they sometimes switch into that mode which can be a bit annoying.


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  30. Esme says:

    Former YouTube CEO has died of lung cancer

    “…with all respect to the bereaved, censorship of health hazards of mrna injections at a critical time in history, is part of her legacy and this affected millions. It happened to us on her YouTube – still happens.”

    Cancer doctors in Brazil plane crash

    Among the 62 passengers and crew who died in the tragic Brazil flight that plummeted from the sky and exploded in a fireball were eight cancer doctors who had dedicated their lives to saving others.

    They were en route to a cancer conference called SBTMO.

    They determine what is deemed real or fake in that field of cancer research. If a treatment or cure is proposed, they decide if it is accredited, which ultimately determines whether it can be used.

    https://apnews.com/article/brazil-plane-crash-sao-paulo-394427322513643f4eaf517e4ac4c85e


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  31. Esme says:

    Quite possibly the most 1984 headline to date

    You will be refused bail even if you only watched riots from the sidelines, judge warns


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  32. mh says:

    YouTube Shorts

    1 minute of Andrew Tate v Piers Morgan

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/94lkv_ZrGZI


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  33. kaysee kaysee says:

    Among the 62 passengers and crew who died in the tragic Brazil flight that plummeted from the sky and exploded in a fireball were eight cancer doctors who had dedicated their lives to saving others.

    How did this accident happen? Questions have to be asked.

    Seven other doctors who were scheduled for that flight took an earlier one.

    One of the doctors on the plane.


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  34. mh says:

    This is the Politico article Ron Unz referenced (above)

    We Volunteered at a Gaza Hospital. What We Saw Was Unspeakable.

    American surgeons who witnessed the civilian carnage of the Israel-Hamas war.

    … We started seeing a series of children, preteens mostly, who’d been shot in the head. They’d go on to slowly die, only to be replaced by new victims who’d also been shot in the head, and who would also go on to slowly die. Their families told us one of two stories: the children were playing inside when they were shot by Israeli forces, or they were playing in the street when they were shot by Israeli forces. …

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/19/gaza-hospitals-surgeons-00167697


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  35. Esme says:

    How did this accident happen? Questions have to be asked.

    Crazy how these things happen and it’s just “move on – next!”, isn’t it. I remember being stunned when I heard a doctor say on a podcast a few years that they won’t allow cancer to be cured. Sort of reminiscent of the Titanic “conspiracy theory”, and others… how many events in history are really as presented to us?


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  36. kaysee kaysee says:

    We Volunteered at a Gaza Hospital. What We Saw Was Unspeakable.

    What we are all seeing of the carnage taking place in Gaza is unspeakable. It is gut-wrenching that this can be done to the innocent.

    What is more unspeakable is that there are people in the west who continue to support this genocide.


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  37. kaysee kaysee says:

    🎕 ┈┈┈┈ 🎕 ┈┈┈┈ 🎕
    And for this Sunday…

    Open My Eyes That I May See

    .

    A Ponderable


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  38. mh says:

    What is more unspeakable is that there are people in the west who continue to support this genocide.

    Ron Unz (above) on Netanyahu’s recent visit to Washington:

    … Nonetheless, he was recently invited to address a joint session of Congress for the fourth time, an unprecedented American honor never previously granted any world leader. His lengthy, bombastic speech was rapturously received, being interrupted by some 58 standing ovations, coming at a rate of more than once each minute. …


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  39. mh says:

    U.K. Riots – Why I Left For BETTER Life In Russia 🇷🇺

    Scottish guy in Moscow
    16.2K subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsNkxY_mUAM


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  40. kaysee kaysee says:

    Paris Olympics Tableau

    Part 3
    False gods

    In the first two parts, it was a look at the how it came to be that a major sporting event like the Olympics was permitted to have something that would be not just in poor taste but offensive to over 2 billion Christians. Part 1 considered the role of Christian institutions. Part 2 was the Media – the power of those in influential positions with megaphones.

    In this Part, I want to look at the rest of society – the public, mainly Christians. What I am posting here is not from a judgemental seat, but as an observer of what is taking place in our society and affecting our lives. The choices and decisions we are making on one hand, while we claim victim-hood on the other.

    What is our role in the changes taking place in society? Do we have an impact? We have several avenues to make our voices heard, but one of the major ones is at election time, when we vote. This is our opportunity to let the powers-that-be know what is important to us, who we support and why. In this context, I am taking as an example, the biggest election campaign currently underway. The US Elections.


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  41. kaysee kaysee says:

    a/
    Christians (and other social conservatives) reacted to the Paris tableau with anger. Many of these are Magadonians – Trump supporters – in the US or elsewhere. But why are they offended by that tableau? They revere Trump as their leader and accept his words, actions, lifestyle, policies.

    Trump married thrice, divorced twice. Cheated on all his wives. But his followers are more concerned about the injustice done to him regarding hush money to a porn star rather than him cheating on his wife.

    He supports the Lgbtxyz club. Years ago, during the Miss Universe contest, he allowed a tranny to participate. He supports trannys using female bathrooms. When asked the definition of a woman, his response was ummmmmm…….

    Those who criticise homosexuality and the 50 genders have no concerns when Trump supports it. The traditional definition of marriage doesn’t count – the new GOP has generalised it to broaden the tent. And his followers don’t mind. At the RNC, prayers to pagan gods were permitted.

    The Bud Light boycott was a grass roots Conservative protest movement and was supported by most Republican Presidential candidates at the primaries. Except Trump and his family. Because the boycott would hurt his business dealings and donations. This protest by Conservatives made a huge difference, but Trump was on the side of Bud Light and Conservatives did not object.

    He is pro-abortion, but in 2016 knew that the only way to get the nomination was to become pro-life. Now, it doesn’t matter. The cult will follow him no matter what he says. Some of those who claim to be 100% pro-lifers are willing to compromise their beliefs to whatever Trump says.

    The Conservatives and Christians used to be the backbone of the Republican party. Now, as I shared last month, they are mere spots on the basement wall according to Eric Trump. And Christians are okay with this.

    Maga will tell you this is about doing whatever it takes to win the elections. Then, of course, Trump will return to conservatism and making America great. He always keeps his promises. Like he did in his first term.


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  42. kaysee kaysee says:

    b/
    So why are these same Christians so upset by what took place in Paris?

    They are comfortable with having as a leader someone who disregards all the teachings of Christianity, what the bible says about homosexuality, that there are only two sexes: male and female. That marriage is sacred, and so is fidelity to one’s spouse. Adultery and divorce are not badges of honour.

    Trump has been treated like a god by Maga. No, its more than a mere god. He has been elevated to the same level as Jesus Christ. As a saviour. As someone going through the same trials and persecutions as Christ.

    Christians haven’t objected to the blasphemy. They have rushed in to support it.

    There are Evangelical groups that have endorsed Trump. Same with some Catholic groups. There are Catholic clergy who support him because “the other side is worse”. There are prominent Catholic influencers who go silent when there a conflict between Church teaching and something that Trump says or does. There is the usual excuse of “Republicans are better than the Dems” or this is only till we get the votes and win the election.

    If we are prepared to sacrifice the teachings of our faith and our moral principles just for worldly gain, if we are prepared to set aside God’s teachings in order to placate men, if we think its okay to trade in our faith to gain an election win, what exactly are our Christian beliefs?


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  43. kaysee kaysee says:

    c/
    I have shared plenty of links re the blasphemy in the US Election threads. But 13 July 2024 took this to another level.

    13 July-1
    .

    13 July-2
    .

    13 July-3


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  44. kaysee kaysee says:

    d/
    13 July-4
    .

    This is Getting Out of Control

    .

    There is outrage about how pagans dishonoured Christ in Paris? But no protests about how some Christians are part of or permit the blasphemy of equating Donald Trump with Jesus Christ?

    Which of the two cases should provoke in Christians a greater anger?
    – The ones who insult Christ from a place of ignorance?
    or
    – those who know Christ’s teachings, call themselves Christians but stay quiet or are a part of this blasphemy?


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  45. kaysee kaysee says:

    I was looking for some news story that is in a bit of a lighter vein, but they are all covering the bleak events from around the world.

    Yesterday, I posted links to the Gaza genocide. That should be one of the continuing big news stories.

    In one of today’s papers, the main news is summed up as this. If you let MSM and Con Inc be your main news sources, you’ll accept what they serve you without question.

    Revenge?
    How about the facts instead of propaganda that suits the agenda?

    I’ll get to the Iran related stories later, if time permits.
    But for now, it’s Gaza.


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  46. Esme says:

    I think one answer to “why Christians support Trump” is the idea that God uses flawed people.

    The fashioning of Trump into a ‘messiah-like’ figure is one of the more persuasive arguments for the assassination attempt being a staged event. That, and the globalist controllers’ perceived need to counter any lingering distrust or disenchantment (among uninjected supporters) due to his self-proclaimed status as “father of the vaccines”. His “beautiful vaccines” may have killed and maimed millions, but here he is, your ‘hero’, narrowly escaping death himself.

    Abi’s Kitchen Table Episode 1

    The Olympics blasphemy reflects a worldwide agenda against “the West” (1:41) – or “Christendom” (1:42 – “I think you’re buggered if you don’t call it Christendom”).

    Trump supporters naively? desperately? cling to him as their perceived only earthly hope in the face of the globalist agenda… desperately, despite his flaws and his being owned, apparently, ultimately, by the same people behind that agenda against “the West” (Christendom).

    The whole “kitchen table” conversation is worth watching. As a change from the appointed “defenders of the West” in the MSM and “trusted alternatives”, the suggestion that practising Muslims – in so far as they are another example of “the faithful” – are our friends.


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  47. Esme says:

    Open My Eyes That I May See

    This was lovely, by the way, kaysee.


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  48. kaysee kaysee says:

    Dr. Mads Gilbert**

    (His source: Ministry of Health, Gaza)

    This is an unprecedented genocide that is taking place before the eyes of the world.
    No words can describe it… this is horror.

    .

    (**Bio: Norwegian physician, Professor em. Univ. Hospital of North Norway, Solidarity medical worker, Researcher, Teacher, Longtime volunteer for Palestinian healthcare)


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  49. kaysee kaysee says:

    UNOSAT Gaza Strip
    8th Comprehensive Damage Assessment – July 2024

    This twitter thread here provides a few images with details. I’ll post a few for those who can’t view the thread.

    Gaza-1

    every red dot is a building damaged or destroyed by Israel
    there is a bright red dot off-centre in the circled area
    that is the location of al-Tabi’in school
    as you can see, it was one of the few standing buildings in a heavily-damaged area<
    /blockquote>

    Gaza-2

    here’s the zoomed-out map showing everywhere in the Strip that has been bombed as of July 6


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  50. kaysee kaysee says:

    Gaza-3
    This is better. I was looking for it but couldn’t find it.
    The threadreader
    .
    Gaza-4

    “Since October, Israel has dropped more tons of bombs on Gaza than were dropped on London, Hiroshima, and Dresden combined during World War II.”

    .
    Gaza-5


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  51. Esme says:

    It is hard to witness the ongoing Trump delusion among ‘conservatives’. (Or the Netanyahu worship.) I think even the based Archbishop Vigano has deferred to him, and to Tucker Carlson. An indication of the extent of the globalists’ influence and control? It’s a bit like waking up to the truth about the “vaccines” in 2021. And waiting… and waiting for others to. But then, there are people who’ve been ‘awake’ for much longer.


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  52. kaysee kaysee says:

    I think one answer to “why Christians support Trump” is the idea that God uses flawed people.

    King David and St Paul? They sinned, but when they became aware of their sins, and sought God’s forgiveness.

    We are all human; hence flawed people and sinners. It is about acknowledging our sins, being sorry for them and asking God to forgive us our trespasses.

    The fashioning of Trump into a ‘messiah-like’ figure is one of the more persuasive arguments for the assassination attempt being a staged event.

    Should we wait for the investigation results?

    Some theories:
    Theory-1

    Theory-2


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  53. Esme says:

    I think one answer to “why Christians support Trump” is the idea that God uses flawed people.

    King David and St Paul? They sinned, but when they became aware of their sins, and sought God’s forgiveness.

    We are all human; hence flawed people and sinners. It is about acknowledging our sins, being sorry for them and asking God to forgive us our trespasses.

    I know. I’m not an apologist for Trump or Trump supporters. I’m a ‘reformed Trump supporter’, trying to give an explanation for why Christians might continue to support him, despite everything. To quote someone (Christian) I know, confronted with the idea that the assassination attempt was fake – “then what is there?”

    People (understandably) don’t see viable alternatives in the uniparty. And, so far at least, can’t see solutions beyond that.


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  54. kaysee kaysee says:

    The whole “kitchen table” conversation is worth watching. As a change from the appointed “defenders of the West” in the MSM and “trusted alternatives”, the suggestion that practising Muslims – in so far as they are another example of “the faithful” – are our friends.

    I took a quick look at the video. The format is a good one. Although it can be a closely-knit group of people, it opens their discussion to a wider audience. I’ve bookmarked it to watch later.

    This current conflict in Gaza has made it seem like Muslims and Christians share something in common. Of course, as Christians, we should seek to live peaceably with all. But, I am wary of suggestions about some kind of unity between practising Muslims and practising Christians.

    This was lovely, by the way, kaysee.

    I thought it has a good message for spiritual reflection.


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  55. mh says:

    kaysee

    Is Donald Trump in the room with us now?


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  56. mh says:

    Media: if you don’t love this you’re not an Aussie


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  57. mh says:

    There is outrage about how pagans dishonoured Christ in Paris?

    The opening ceremony was directed by a gay Jew.
    The Christ figure at The Last Supper was a lesbian Jew.
    Jewish money would have been pushing this anti-Christian theme.

    – The ones who insult Christ from a place of ignorance?

    The Talmud states that Christ is suffering for eternity in a vat of boiling semen.


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  58. mh says:

    Trump returns to X platform amidst a tight contest with Kamala

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    MEET SAN FRANCISCO RADICAL KAMALA HARRIS!

    https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1823046173868831147


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  59. SVC says:

    Here’s a debate about the invasion of Gaza. And other topics as well. Pretty long video but worth watching.


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  60. SVC says:

    They have not performed any long-term studies on childhood vaccines. I did not know that.


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  61. SVC says:

    They have not performed any long-term studies on childhood vaccines. I did not know that.

    Sorry, I made a mistake. They have not performed safety trials on childhood vaccines.


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  62. mh says:

    Why was Trump speaking with a lisp during today’s X conversation with Elon?

    Trump’s team is denying anything unusual, but anyone with half a brain can pick it up in 20 seconds.


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  63. mh says:

    Tech billionaire Elon Musk’s almost two-hour-long interview with former US President Donald Trump on X is making big headlines. The Republican candidate’s voice raised eyebrows with many commenting that he was slurring his words and speaking with a lisp. These claims put the 78-year-old in a precarious situation, as many are already wondering if he’s too old to run for office.


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  64. Esme says:

    Stay away from the UK

    @8:20 Woman offered police tea. Arrested for saying years of immigration had ruined the area she lives in.


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  65. mh says:

    Scooter madness … ending?

    The Age

    Rental e-scooters banned in the CBD, operators have 30 days to remove vehicles

    The City of Melbourne council on Tuesday night voted to scrap its contracts with Neuron and Lime.


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  66. mh says:

    Rachel Dratch Interrupts Jimmy’s Monologue as Australian Olympic Breakdancer Raygun | Tonight Show

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8q1d4LZb1Y


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  67. John Smith101 says:

    The Republican candidate’s voice raised eyebrows with many commenting that he was slurring his words and speaking with a lisp. These claims put the 78-year-old in a precarious situation, as many are already wondering if he’s too old to run for office.

    https://t.me/realKarliBonne/260353


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  68. mh says:

    Two days ago

    Elon Musk is hosting a live interview with Trump on X, and he’s trying really hard to avoid a repeat of the Ron DeSantis campaign launch meltdown

    https://www.businessinsider.com/musk-trying-avoid-repeat-of-desantis-campaign-launch-trump-2024-8

    ***

    Some funny stuff, including:

    “Am going to do some system scaling tests tonight & tomorrow in advance of the conversation with Donald Trump,” Musk wrote in an X post on Sunday night. …

    Ensuring X’s stability is probably a top priority for Musk, considering the platform’s spotty performance last year.

    In May 2023, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida launched his presidential campaign on X instead of on cable television. DeSantis’ launch, however, didn’t go quite as planned. The highly touted livestream got off to a rough start and encountered multiple technical difficulties.

    The glitchy livestream was mocked by many, including the Trump campaign.

    “Glitchy. Tech issues. Uncomfortable silences. A complete failure to launch. And that’s just the candidate!” a spokesperson for Trump told Business Insider then.


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  69. mh says:

    WashPo

    Former X employees, experts doubt Musk claim of cyberattack on Trump talk

    Former engineers at X and outside experts cast further doubt Tuesday on Elon Musk’s claim that a 40-minute delay in his Monday audio conversation with Donald Trump was caused by a “massive” cyberattack.

    Musk said Monday that the technical glitches that stopped the heavily promoted episode on Spaces, X’s live audio platform, from starting on time were because of a distributed denial of service, or DDoS, attack, in which many devices send meaningless data at once to overwhelm an offering.

    A senior engineer at X told an outside expert late Tuesday that there had been no evidence of an attack, the expert relayed to The Washington Post.

    Other technologists also expressed skepticism, partially because a previous high-profile Spaces event — in which Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis launched his campaign for the Republican presidential nomination — also crashed when large numbers of listeners tried to join. Other parts of X kept functioning Monday, so any attack would have had to be extremely targeted.

    “DDoS is certainly a plausible reason, but I think it’s unlikely, and I’d demand to see actual numbers to believe it was DDoS,” said former NSA hacker Robert Graham, a consultant and security commentator. …


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  70. mh says:

    Not paywalled

    Girl, 11, allegedly stabbed in London confirmed to be an Australian

    https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/girl-11-allegedly-stabbed-in-london-confirmed-to-be-an-australian/news-story/fe8a4a04014a603af56bb59ac4af9336

    ***

    She was reportedly visiting the busy tourist area with her 34-year-old mother at the time of the random attack.

    A 32-year-old man, Ioan Pintaru, appeared in a London court charged with attempted murder over the latest stabbing, which shocked the busy tourist centre of Leicester Square on Monday, local time.

    Westminster Magistrates’ Court heard that Mr Pintaru, who spoke through a translator, was a Romanian citizen with no fixed address. …


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  71. mh says:

    YouTube shorts:

    @NigelFarageOfficial
    Keir Starmer’s new plan to deal with illegal migrants won’t solve a thing.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wMy9ihUS9zY


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  72. mh says:

    Nicholas J. Fuentes
    @NickJFuentes

    And by the way, if Tucker has any suspicion that I’m a federal agent, he can always just call up his father (CIA agent) or his close friend Erik Prince (CIA agent), and ask them.

    Or just ask me and allow me to give my side of the story. Or am I somehow worse than Kevin Spacey?

    https://x.com/NickJFuentes/status/1823700860125225347


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  73. kaysee kaysee says:

    A 10-year schoolgirl murdered by her mother.
    How does anyone make sense of this?

    This happened Tuesday evening.

    ‘Incredibly confronting’:
    Dad found daughter allegedly murdered by mum


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  74. kaysee kaysee says:

    Covid vaxxing.

    1/
    The Libs have kicked this guy off the party ticket at the next election.

    Senator Gerard Rennick

    ‘ vaccine injuries are not a conspiracy theory ….. I want the people who gaslight the injured people to be held to account. Because I’m sick and tired of these people being mocked….people who followed the Government advice, in good faith and then have been trampled on and gaslighted because it doesn’t suit their political agenda.

    2/
    Naomi Wolf

    ‘The vaccines didn’t work to stop Covid. Pfizer knew this within a month after rollout.


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  75. kaysee kaysee says:

    13 August 2024

    This story from Gaza

    1/
    4-day-old twin babies, Asir and Aysel, along with their mother, Jumana Farid Abu Al-Qomsan were at home.

    2/
    When their father, Mohammed Abu Al-Qomsan, went to obtain birth certificates for the newborn twins, Israel launched an attack on their home in Deir al-Balah, killing his wife and children.

    3/
    The celebration


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  76. Esme says:

    Senator Gerard Rennick

    They seem to be consistently about 80-90%. Thank God for that much truth. Perhaps that’s as much as the controllers allow them.

    “The vacccine saved lives.” I’d really like to know how you work that out.

    Exactly.

    I’m actually ambivalent about a Royal Commission into it, because quite frankly I don’t trust the judiciary.

    Quite. Where were they, when human rights were violated all over the place in the last few years?

    But he still refers to the existence of a Covid virus, when many scientific experts maintain it’s never been isolated. And he suggests lockdowns may have saved lives. As others have said, lockdowns ( prison terminology apparently) were nothing more than psychological torture. No precedent, no justification, for quarantining healthy people.

    https://bakersfieldnow.com/news/local/accelerated-urgent-care-provides-statistical-update-on-covid-19

    Typically you quarantine the sick . When someone has measles, you quarantine them. We’ve never seen where you quarantine the healthy – where you take those without disease and without symptoms and you lock them in their home.

    Home and Away star Dieter Brummer, 45, died after being ‘broken’ by Sydney’s strict Covid lockdown

    I wonder how many of us are still suffering from the effects of those ‘public health’ “lockdowns”.


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  77. kaysee kaysee says:

    I know. I’m not an apologist for Trump or Trump supporters. I’m a ‘reformed Trump supporter’, trying to give an explanation for why Christians might continue to support him, despite everything.

    That was not a personal response directed at you, Esme. It was a general comment in context to the oft-repeated excuses by the followers.

    I watched that episode of Abi’s Kitchen Table. I like the easy going discussion taking place, questioning occurrences, looking for solutions. It provides a support network of intelligent people who are critically evaluating events.

    The downside is the time taken for the episode – 2 1/2 hours. They need to structure it a bit – plan the topics, and those who are taking part need to prepare a bit, and a quicker pace. So it may not be so spontaneous, but for the viewer it takes up lesser time.

    Otherwise, it is not enough gain for the time spent.


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  78. kaysee kaysee says:

    And by the way, if Tucker has any suspicion that I’m a federal agent, he can always just call up his father (CIA agent) or his close friend Erik Prince (CIA agent), and ask them.

    A twitter poster has offered Tucker a Million Dollar bet.
    Matthew Tower

    MILLION-DOLLAR BET TO @TuckerCarlson
    : I will prove to an unbiased jury 1) Israel did 9/11; 2) Israel killed JFK with help from CIA; and 3) Zero shots struck Trump, that one was a staged psyop. Loser donates to winner’s charity. Tucker, you take the bet?

    .

    By now, James O’Brien is probably unemployed.


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  79. Esme says:

    Agree re your feedback on “Abi’s Kitchen Table”, kaysee. 2 1/2 hours is a long time. Especially when much of it may be just going over ‘old material’. I like the format because I think many of us are missing that ‘kitchen table’ of likeminded people – because we live/work/mix with people who aren’t awake. So it’s perhaps a wistfully vicarious experience of that.

    And (all great but) I was very impressed and encouraged by the two younger men… since many have remarked (both here and in the UK, apparently) on the relative absence of men among the awake. Women – thanks to women’s intuition, perhaps, more awake to psychological rather than physical warfare – asking “where are the men?”

    I think you would’ve been impressed by how the artist of the two, Francis O’Neill, doesn’t waver when more than one person on
    this call insisted Trump wasn’t the independent saviour he’s made out to be. (It is another overly long video, though.)

    Has anyone here thought about starting their own Substack Already a plethora out there, of course, possibly saying much the same thing.


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  80. kaysee kaysee says:

    Update your vocabulary.
    Instead of ethnic cleansing, use evacuation.

    Example-1

    Israel offered to ethnic cleanse evacuate tens of thousands of Palestinians to Egypt until the cessation of the Israel-Hamas War, according to a report.

    Example-2

    Itamar Ben Gvir, Israel’s Minister of National Security, said during an interview with Israel’s Channel 12 on Wednesday that he believes Israel needs to “occupy Gaza and stay there” and that they would develop a “plan of encouragement” to make Palestinians leave.

    Example-3

    “In less than one year there will be settlers in Gaza, people are snapping up plots of land”

    “The moment Netanyahu said there will be a military occupation in Gaza, we came to the dance”


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  81. kaysee kaysee says:

    Francis O’Neill, doesn’t waver when more than one person on
    this call insisted Trump wasn’t the independent saviour he’s made out to be. (It is another overly long video, though.)

    If you can provide time-stamps of the sections that relate to this point, it may make it easier to take in.

    Has anyone here thought about starting their own Substack Already a plethora out there, of course, possibly saying much the same thing.

    Starting a Substack and writing posts is one thing. But building up a reader base takes time. If someone on this blog, wants to write an article and get it published on this site, that is possible. If they are also on social media, they can, then, provide links to the article.


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  82. kaysee kaysee says:

    Trump wasn’t the independent saviour he’s made out to be

    A number of grifting influencers have now decided that there are problems with the Trump campaign team. They are now getting concerned about the GOP results in November.

    Candace joins the chorus of people demanding a change in leadership from the Trump campaign.

    Poor Candace. She still can’t join the dots. Blame everyone else –
    the deep state, the Rinos the Establishment, the campaign advisers. But it is never Trump himself who is the problem.

    Last year – before the primaries – she told us about Trump and his IT factor. Others have described Trump has having the sizzle and oomph. He can entertain and draw cult crowds. But actually getting things done?

    He surrounds himself with sycophants. A good leader will pick the best – not the ones who kiss his boots. The problem isn’t the leadership of the Trump campaign. It is the “leader” of the GOP.

    They are now worried about where the GOP is headed in November? They thought that it would be Trump vs Biden and they were confident their guy would win? So they supported him during the primaries or did not object when he did not participate in the primaries debates.

    The rule should have been every candidate wanting to run under the GOP banner has to take part in the debates and has to answer the serious questions – Covid, lockdowns, economy, border, other issues. So the party and the country knew exactly what each candidate stood for. Then they could pick the best candidate as the GOP nominee.


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  83. Esme says:

    Francis O’Neill, doesn’t waver when more than one person on this call insisted Trump wasn’t the independent saviour he’s made out to be. (It is another overly long video, though.)

    Correction: Francis was the one insisting Trump’s not an independent saviour, despite others wanting to believe/pretend otherwise. It seems to be a common theme, a sort of sticking point for more prominent ‘voices of freedom’ – to tell/agree 80-90% truth but still give Trump an out. His intentions were good, the data was bad etc etc.

    If you can provide time-stamps of the sections that relate to this point, it may make it easier to take in.

    35:37
    Trump, for example, has been seeded to the American public over decades… it’s a simple psychological trick, isn’t it? For example, familiarity – we trust people with whom we are more familiar. So they put these people on our television screens and seed them to us. So Trump was on The Apprentice show, but he also had this persona of the boss man, which is sort of popular in America – the guy who gets things done…and he was put on television, just like Boris Johnson was put in front of us on Have I Got News For You… so that people had a kind of affinity for them…

    If you’re going to lock people down and try and inject them with something that might not be very good for them, you have to then make sure that people trust the person giving it to you…”I trust Trump, so he wouldn’t be locking us down if we didn’t need it”… If you’re going to lock down the world and inject them all, then you have to have your players in place.

    39:12
    You don’t get to be American president unless you’re anointed by the cabal…and also his financial situation – in the 90s-2000s, he was bailed out by the bankers. There’s many reasons to think he’s just another one of their players…The fact that he still vouches for the vaccine, and he pushed the vaccine, and he was telling people to get the booster… If you push the propaganda line when people have made you aware of it, then you’re failing a certain litmus test. And I think that’s what Trump has done quite clearly with his Operation Warp Speed and with the lockdowns…even if you disregard everything else, I think that gives the lie to him, the vaccine situation.

    (One of the hosts) Stephen Frost: I think that human beings need some hope and as far as politics go, I’d like to think that Trump is the real deal, but yeah I agree with you – if they wanted to deceive people, then of course there’s nothing more brilliant than putting somebody like Trump in place, who gets the trust of people like me…when he’s actually working for the other side…I think we can agree that he’s the best of what’s available in the United States anyway…and so let’s see what he does in the first few days of his presidency. And then we’ll know whether he’s a fraud.

    Francis O’Neill: We already do.[Staunch.] …people want to attach their positivity or their hope or…they’re deferring their action to Q and to Trump and stuff, and it basically defers the revolution that we need. [From the mouth of an artist.]


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  84. Esme says:

    Francis O’Neill, doesn’t waver when more than one person on this call insisted Trump wasn’t the independent saviour he’s made out to be. (It is another overly long video, though.)

    Correction: Francis O’Neill insisting Trump not independent saviour, despite others wanting to believe otherwise. It seems to be a theme/sticking point for prominent ‘voices of freedom’ – to share 80-90% truth but give Trump an out. His intentions were good, his data was bad etc.

    Around 35min mark: Trump, like Boris Johnson, ‘seeded’ to the public over time, to gain trust for then locking down and injecting people. Host suggests people need hope, Trump best on offer, so wait and see what he does in next term – “and then we’ll know if he’s a fraud”. Francis O’Neill: “We already do.” ‘Vaccine situation’ the litmus test. In attaching hope and positivity to people like Trump, people defer the revolution that we need.


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  85. Esme says:

    Francis O’Neill, doesn’t waver when more than one person on this call insisted Trump wasn’t the independent saviour he’s made out to be.

    Correction: Francis O’Neill says Trump not independent saviour, despite opposition.

    Around 35min mark talks about how Trump was seeded to the public over time to gain trust.


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  86. mh says:

    Candace joins the chorus of people demanding a change in leadership from the Trump campaign.

    Nick Fuentes too.

    The idea of Project 25 was to get the right people in the Trump administration so that he wasn’t undermined during a possible 2nd term.

    Trump has disavowed Project 25, so people need to move on.

    Cheering on Trump is like cheering on Bush. If that’s what people want, fine. But people must accept that Donald Trump is not a change candidate.


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  87. Esme says:

    Sorry for multiple comments above – didn’t seem to be posting


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