Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

Hi Cats,

As you can see I have created a copy of the Cat for you to continue to bicker, argue and occasionally make a reasonable point.

I do hope a solution is found with the original Cat but just in case Sinc doesn’t want to transfer the site to a new generation I have built a replica before the closure so we can migrate as many of the community across as possible.

Programming Note: I rushed out the site so there will be bugs. I can get them fixed but did not want perfection to get in the way for progress.

Community Note: Please let as many cats know of the new blog as soon as possible so we can capture the magic of the original. In particular would love for the original posters to continue their great work here.

Ideological Note: I am an infrequent poster but long time reader of the Cat. The discussions there have been a huge part of my own ideological growth on many issues. In particular free speech is key for me so will have a very similar light touch to the original Cat, potentially adopting my one policy on an earlier forum I built: “No D***heads” which is subjective but surprisingly easy to implement.

Website Note: I will run the Cat as close to possible as the original because I don’t believe in re-inventing the wheel. However if the community so wants I am happy to make changes to improve the experience so if you have any ideas let me know. For anything specific hit me up at the contact form, else go nuts in the comments.

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3,112 Responses to Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

  1. Spider says:

    Holy crap. The new Catallaxy-Files has now morphed into the Anti-Vaxxi Files. I’m all for dissident or questioning voices but we’ve now jumped the shark and about to jump the Blue Whale.

    Adios


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  2. Albatross says:

    Thanks Adam. Doing God’s work.


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  3. H B Bear says:

    Is hard edges a synonym for insufferable cockhead?
    In a word yes, totally

    Then we are in furious agreement.


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  4. Megan says:

    Hang in there Adam, Rome wasn’t built in a day and other assorted cliches. It’s a start and your efforts are completely appreciated by my good self.

    Now to go figure out how to get my avatar in board the move.


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  5. JC says:

    Alba

    One site is enough. I’m a one site man…


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  6. H B Bear says:

    Aaaand we have our 1st flounce of Cat 2.0. That didn’t take long.


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  7. It’s Remarkable says:

    “You are what you do” Not what you talk about

    Adam., you have done that, admirably. Thanks


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  8. m0nty says:

    Well this is a bit crap.


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  9. Rockdoctor says:

    Adam D

    Trust me, I trust you otherwise I wouldn’t have come over. I just have a questioning mind. No sleight intended, I don’t take anything at face value and it is troublesome at times to my mental constitution and one of my many flaws.


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  10. Danoz says:

    Thanks for an incredible effort, Adam. Magnificent effort in 2 days!


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  11. Albatross says:

    “Anti-vaxxer”. What a slam dunk. I’m absolutely destroyed.


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  12. Muddy says:

    That was a rather mediocre flounce though, Bear. No style, no passion, no expletives.

    Can we come up with a Flounce Scale?


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  13. Albatross says:

    It is now.


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  14. miltonf says:

    From a Murdoch germalist-
    ‘Maybe the messaging to the vaccine hesitant shouldn’t focus so much on health, but should instead focus on the burden to taxpayer. No-one wants to be branded a free-rider or a bludger, or a sponge. But that’s exactly what vaccine hesitant are. A massive fucking burden’

    This newscorpse slag can fuck off. Who the hell do they think they are to lecture and insult citizens?


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  15. rickw says:

    “Anti-vaxxer”. What a slam dunk. I’m absolutely destroyed.

    Read up thread to see what that was about. Got sick of looking for any comment on vax.


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  16. miltonf says:

    Gladishocklian seems to have taken more than one page out of the dick tator’s book.


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  17. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    “Well this is a bit crap.”

    Shut the door on your way out, then, monty.


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  18. rickw says:

    Gladishocklian seems to have taken more than one page out of the dick tator’s book.

    Anything you can do I can do it worse…


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  19. duncanm says:

    this place seems to be kicking off.

    .. but I liked discord!


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  20. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “miltonf says:
    August 1, 2021 at 10:12 pm”

    I’ve decided that most at News Corp are no better than the SCUM at their ABC, Nine Newspapers and The Guardian.


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  21. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘Aaaand we have our 1st flounce’

    Terrible flounce. No theatre.

    ‘I’m all for dissident or questioning voices but’

    Yeah righto. ‘I’m not racist but’


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  22. rocinante says:

    It’s not a matter of being an “anti-vaxxer”, rickw.
    It’s about opposing the implementation of a totalitarian Fascist regime.
    Or haven’t you woken up to what is actually going on yet?


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  23. rickw says:

    Look at what we’re missing out on. Australia is so fucking shit, even Europe looks good by comparison:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irXrxHZ6PAA&pp=sAQA


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  24. dover_beach says:

    “Claire Lehmann
    @clairlemon
    · 10h
    Maybe the messaging to the vaccine hesitant shouldn’t focus so much on health, but should instead focus on the burden to taxpayer. No-one wants to be branded a free-rider or a bludger, or a sponge. But that’s exactly what vaccine hesitant are. A massive fucking burden.”

    Wow. Just wow.


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  25. miltonf says:

    The meja are getting hysterical about citizens deciding about what’s injected into their bodies. I wonder what’s really going on.


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  26. rickw says:

    Or haven’t you woken up to what is actually going on yet?

    Completely woken. Was in reference to the anti-vax flounce.


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  27. dover_beach says:

    Dear oh dear.


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  28. Steve trickler says:

    I spent a lot of pocket money sliding coins into the arcade machine – 1942 – at my local deli. This is the plane.

    Check this out.

    <a href = "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MlMlNGaq1Y"P-38 Lightning Aerobatics – Steve Hinton – EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2021


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  29. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “dover_beach says:
    August 1, 2021 at 10:21 pm
    “Claire Lehmann
    @clairlemon
    · 10h”

    Not surprised DB…long thought that Ms Lehmann was a bit of a lightweight…don’t have much time for Quillette either…quite a tedious publication. One thing is clear from the above, Lehmann isn’t an independent thinker like Bret Weinstein…she’s a follower.


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  30. dover_beach says:

    Lehmann is going to turn a lot of people off from Quillette with this latest turn.


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  31. miltonf says:

    Read this garbage from the BA (first class honours like Wayne swan wow)
    ‘If you have to be hospitalised in the ICU for Covid, the average stay is ~8 days. An ICU bed in Australia costs $4375 per day, so an 8 day stay costs taxpayers $35,000.

    Compare that cost to that of an AstraZeneca jab, which is $3.’

    Why the heavy promotion of this particular franken vax which I thought was now only recommended for over 60s?


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  32. cohenite says:

    The economy will not recover because the next phase, not that the chunk virus mutations will end any time soon, will be the alarmist’s reset. Just imagine the lockdowns with no electricity.


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  33. r says:

    Why the heavy promotion of this particular franken vax which I thought was now only recommended for over 60s?

    Because ScoMo bought a couple of billion dollars worth off Bill Gates before it was even approved.


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  34. twostix says:

    “Maybe the messaging to the vaccine hesitant shouldn’t focus so much on health, but should instead focus on the burden to taxpayer. No-one wants to be branded a free-rider or a bludger, or a sponge. But that’s exactly what vaccine hesitant are. A massive fucking burden.””

    I suppose she’s paying market price for her taxpayer funded “jabs”.


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  35. rocinante says:

    Compare that cost to that of an AstraZeneca jab, which is $3.’

    Half the people in hospital have been vaccinated


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  36. Tom says:

    Why did discussions with CL break down?

    I am happy to post but would prefer a few of the old bloggers to share their insights. Hoping the lure of an engaged audience will bring them back, or unearth some new blood.

    —————-

    Woops — no formatting available (yet).

    Just keep doing what you’re doing, Adam.

    Personally, I would like to see more feature posts from JC on his vast knowledge of the stock market and asset values — once a week would be excellent.

    And I can’t get enough of CL’s writing. It’s not just his clear thinking about strategic issues, but his moral clarity, which is refreshing and otherwise unavailable.

    And the beauty of the online community we reach is that there are dozens or hundreds of professional specialists with much knowledge and expertise to contribute.

    As I have said elsewhere, I am also a gun for hire as a subeditor and, in my previous life at Fairfax Media, was a professional online blog moderator/mediator.

    Let us known if I can help.


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  37. H B Bear says:

    Proudly vaccine hesitant.


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  38. cohenite says:

    See what I mean; the alarmists are indefatigable; this bullshit never ends:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/07/29/14000-scientists-warn-of-imminent-climate-tipping-point/


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  39. twostix says:

    See how in realtime the establishment class – the media, and “influencers” openly war-games narratives that they can push onto the normal people, which governments then pickup and use, which the media then ‘reports’ as news.


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  40. egg_ says:

    “It’s about opposing the implementation of a totalitarian Fascist regime.”

    Methinks it’s more like a bunch of cranks more dangerous/insidious than the Greens have been allowed too close to the levers of power.

    “Zigzag our way out the other side*”.

    *How many times did we hear that mantra in reference to da curve?


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  41. H B Bear says:

    An ICU bed in Australia costs $4375 per day, …

    I might owe them a bit then.


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  42. Mark A says:

    I’m surprised.

    Here is someone filling a gap with a near identical blog in record time, the very same people posting here about the same issues and some others already complaining.

    I have read at least 90% of the guest posts, mostly those I had interest in, and the comments rarely exceeded a 100 if that, some more for sure but most of them a lot less.

    Also a lot of people failed to comment on those special interest post while very prolific on the open threads.

    The OT always carried the day hit wise.

    Let sort out the technical problems here first.
    This is a good format, I cannot use Discord.


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  43. egg_ says:

    “No-one wants to be branded a free-rider or a bludger, or a sponge.”

    Does that include public servants?


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  44. Dot says:

    *“Claire Lehmann
    @clairlemon
    · 10h
    Maybe the messaging to the vaccine hesitant shouldn’t focus so much on health, but should instead focus on the burden to taxpayer. No-one wants to be branded a free-rider or a bludger, or a sponge. But that’s exactly what vaccine hesitant are. A massive fucking burden.”

    Wow. Just wow.*

    Get fucked Princess.

    The testing regime in NSW alone has thus far cost us 1.7 bn AUD.


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  45. Joanna says:

    Proudly vaccine hesitant.
    __________________________

    Me too. The more that people like Lehmann push, the more anti I become.


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  46. rickw says:

    I spent a lot of pocket money sliding coins into the arcade machine – 1942 – at my local deli. This is the plane.

    Check out Greg’s Airplanes video on the P-38. Gives a real insight into just what Lockheed achieved. Also interesting is Kelly Johnson’s layout concept sketches. All configurations considered!


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  47. Harlequin Decline says:

    In an exciting development in this plague cursed land an older couple I know have just returned from an 11 day cruise. Smallish 75 passenger ship. He’s 90 and his wife is 85 years old.

    The ports were not especially exotic-Cairns to Darwin with day trips ashore along the way. They were both experienced sailors when they were a little younger( he captained a boat in the 98 Sydney-Hobart) and I thought it may have been a bit mundane for them but seemed to enjoy it.

    They were just outside the Sydney lockdown area so drove up to the airport, flew to Cairns and then flew back from Darwin.


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  48. rocinante says:

    “Methinks it’s more like a bunch of cranks more dangerous/insidious than the Greens have been allowed too close to the levers of power.”

    ——————————————
    A bunch of cranks pretty much simultaneously implement the same totalitarian measures in all five of the UKUSA Pact countries, plus a lot more places as well.

    What a coincidence!


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  49. DrBeauGan says:

    I decided that Claire Lemon is a lefty trying to pass herself off as maybe centrist, so she could get righties on her site and convert them slowly to correct thinking. It doesn’t work, the fact is she’s not very bright. She buys her ideas wholesale.


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  50. dover_beach says:

    “Compare that cost to that of an AstraZeneca jab, which is $3.’

    Why the heavy promotion of this particular franken vax which I thought was now only recommended for over 60s?”

    The government is spending over 5B for the vaccines. The deployment costs would only add more. That’s 1,142,857.14 days in ICU. Or 114K Australians in ICU for ten days. I doubt we would have ever got there.


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  51. jupes says:

    test
    test
    test


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  52. rickw says:

    Why the heavy promotion of this particular franken vax which I thought was now only recommended for over 60s?

    Because ScoMo bought a couple of billion dollars worth off Bill Gates before it was even approved.

    Massively overstocked on Frankenvax, gotta move it even if it kills them!


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  53. Dot says:

    Rastan was one of the best arcade games, ever, on the music alone.

    EPIC!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT4fI6bfrMg


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  54. jupes says:

    Test – fail.


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  55. rickw says:

    The government is spending over 5B for the vaccines

    $3 a jab, two jabs, 26million people = 156million worth of jabs.

    Where the fuck did the other 4.8B go? Grand theft?


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  56. srr says:

    ““Claire Lehmann @clairlemon · 10h
    Maybe the messaging to the vaccine hesitant shouldn’t focus so much on health, but should instead focus on the burden to taxpayer. No-one wants to be branded a free-rider or a bludger, or a sponge. But that’s exactly what vaccine hesitant are. A massive fucking burden.”

    Wow. Just wow.”

    Yeah I was thinking the last time I saw her write something, that either her success had gone to her head or she was a Leftist plant from the get go.


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