Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

Hi Cats,

As you can see I have created a copy of the Cat for you to continue to bicker, argue and occasionally make a reasonable point.

I do hope a solution is found with the original Cat but just in case Sinc doesn’t want to transfer the site to a new generation I have built a replica before the closure so we can migrate as many of the community across as possible.

Programming Note: I rushed out the site so there will be bugs. I can get them fixed but did not want perfection to get in the way for progress.

Community Note: Please let as many cats know of the new blog as soon as possible so we can capture the magic of the original. In particular would love for the original posters to continue their great work here.

Ideological Note: I am an infrequent poster but long time reader of the Cat. The discussions there have been a huge part of my own ideological growth on many issues. In particular free speech is key for me so will have a very similar light touch to the original Cat, potentially adopting my one policy on an earlier forum I built: “No D***heads” which is subjective but surprisingly easy to implement.

Website Note: I will run the Cat as close to possible as the original because I don’t believe in re-inventing the wheel. However if the community so wants I am happy to make changes to improve the experience so if you have any ideas let me know. For anything specific hit me up at the contact form, else go nuts in the comments.

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3,112 Responses to Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

  1. johanna says:

    The problem with the ‘let it all run free’ model is that they underestimate the manic and inexhaustible nature of mentally ill or just ratbag commenters, including those who are on ice.

    They will go on and on, day and night, filling the pages with putrid spam, and that’s what it is.

    It becomes their personal space to vent whatever nonsense is currently infesting their heads.

    Like srr in 2016, after a while you had to wade through pages of it to find anything else. Not to mention that she accused all of us of being spies bought by the UN. It became a badge of honour. 🙂 Sinc had to ban her.

    I daresay that Adam is mulling these issues, in between having a life.


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  2. Dot says:

    Probably time to kill the bot.

    We don’t need a link to a “Pornhub Downloader” here.


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  3. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Johanna – Currawongs follow the berries and fruit. There’re Port Jackson figs in two of the adjacent neighbours’ yards, and more of them further up the street. They feast on the figs, which are just the right size for a currawong to swallow. The additional boost they get from us are privets. I used to have a 5m high privet in my yard, before I had friendly currawongs. In the season the currawongs would be festooned all over it like Christmas decorations. I got it cut down eventually as I became allergic to privet pollen due to a flu infection.

    Only a long time later did I manage to befriend any currawongs. Basically I’m a fig tree to them. They go around the fig trees as they come into fruit, strip them, them move to the next one. Only the Cafe Bruce “fig tree” bears meat-figs all year round. Which the currawongs rather like. Almost all of them accept it from my hand, which is a tribute to the flexibility and learning ability of wild creatures.

    They’re spreading out to breed now, and will mostly be gone until the kids are large enough to need extra food sources, which is about December. Then they go away again in March-May to feast on berries. I get them twice a year, such is the pulse of currawong music.


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  4. Rabz says:

    Jones going ballistic about Beryl Gladyschlocklian’s insane destructive dishonest hysterical incompetence.

    About the only figure in the braindead lamestream meeja doing so.


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  5. DM OF WA says:

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
    August 4, 2021 at 6:33 pm
    …
    I specialise in being a homebody in lockdown enjoying my life, which includes my cat …

    Now I remember, this woman was the Mrs Slocombe of the ancien regime Catallaxy Files.


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  6. Barking Toad says:

    FMD – just like the ole fred – still getting teno.

    Scrolling past the drivelling dribble of trolls, socks and loonies.

    Stick to it Adam – well done.


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  7. Dot says:

    “Not to mention that she accused all of us of being spies bought by the UN.”

    I missed that one, but that’s pretty funny.

    Pretty weird how I advocate for the UN, and sometimes our Federal Government to be abolished.


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  8. Ruprecht says:

    “ I daresay that Adam is mulling these issues, in between having a life.”

    Tell that to Cat Karen.


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  9. Rabz says:

    “accused all of us of being spies bought by the UN …”

    … prone to chowing down on (cue spooky muzak …) pineapple on pizza.


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  10. Bruce in WA says:

    The problem with the ‘let it all run free’ model is that they underestimate the manic and inexhaustible nature of mentally ill or just ratbag commenters, including those who are on ice.

    They will go on and on, day and night, filling the pages with putrid spam, and that’s what it is.

    It becomes their personal space to vent whatever nonsense is currently infesting their heads.

    Amen, Jo.


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  11. cohenite says:

    From the Australian

    “Greens in hunt for candidate as Julian Burnside quits

    That sounds perfect for Bird.


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  12. mh says:

    Hasn’t Dr BeauGan educated Graeme yet about his anti Semitism?

    C’mon Beaugy, time for you to set Graeme on the path of righteousness!


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  13. Makka says:

    “Now I remember, this woman was the Mrs Slocombe of the ancien regime Catallaxy Files.”

    Closer to Hyacinth Bucket I suspect.


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  14. kaysee says:

    Jones going ballistic about Beryl Gladyschlocklian’s insane destructive dishonest hysterical incompetence.

    The Covid Outbreak in NSW

    1/

    From Sky News (June 23 2021)

    NSW Government’s guidelines for air crew transportation to blame for COVID outbreak

    A failure by the New South Wales Government to implement provisions requiring drivers of air crew to be vaccinated and to wear face masks is to blame for the state’s unfolding coronavirus crisis, says Sky News Political Editor Andrew Clennell.

    This is negligence on the part of the NSW government headed by Gladly Bearly. The issue had been brought to the notice of the government before the limo driver incident that set off this lockdown. Due to the government’s incompetence, the residents of the biggest city in the country are in lockdown, severe restrictions, invasion of residents rights and privacy.

    How do we have such a situation? This is supposed to a Liberal Government. The Premier is supposed to be from a heritage that should understand what freedom means. She used that ancestry to score points before the election.

    (Contd. comments 2 and 3)


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  15. Bruce in WA says:

    Now I remember, this woman was the Mrs Slocombe of the ancien regime Catallaxy Files.

    Really? Then you mis-remember.


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  16. egg_ says:

    “Greens in hunt for candidate as Julian Burnside quits”

    LMFAO!


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  17. kaysee says:

    2/

    Armenian genocide

    At the height of World War I, the Young Turk government of the Ottoman Empire suspected its Armenian population of harbouring sympathy for the Russian enemy. Armenians serving in the Ottoman army were taken into camps and killed, as were Armenian political leaders and intellectuals. The mass of the population were rounded up and marched off to concentration camps, where many of them died of hunger, thirst or disease. In 1920–3, when the Ottoman Empire invaded parts of Armenia, Armenians were subject to further mass killings.

    It is estimated that up to 1.5 million out of a population of 2.5 million Armenians died. As genocide is defined as a purposeful extermination of an entire people or race, the mass killing of Armenians has been widely accepted as a genocidal act (whose denial became punishable by law in France).


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  18. kaysee says:

    3/

    Gladys Berejiklian shares her personal story

    “My family were victims of the Armenian genocide of 1915,” Ms Berejiklian will say. “All four of my grandparents were orphaned and witnessed untold atrocities.

    “More than 40 of my relatives were among the 1.5 million Armenians killed.

    “Those who survived, including my grandparents, were forced to leave their homeland and were displaced across the region, eventually settling in the Middle East.


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  19. egg_ says:

    “A failure by the New South Wales Government to implement provisions requiring drivers of air crew to be vaccinated and to wear face masks is to blame for the state’s unfolding coronavirus crisis, says Sky News Political Editor Andrew Clennell.”

    Ruby Princess MkII for NSW ‘Elf tards?


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  20. Dot says:

    “It becomes their personal space to vent whatever nonsense is currently infesting their heads.”

    I know, right?

    FTRs in 5 minutes – Thorium Reactors

    A short video of Kirk Sorensen taking us through the benefits of Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors, a revolutionary liquid reactor that runs not on uranium, but thorium. These work and have been built before. Search for either LFTRs or Molten Salt Reactors (MSR).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK367T7h6ZY


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  21. calli says:

    How’s the good cheer and bonhomie going this evening, Cats?

    Freezing here in Armidale. Discovered the wonderful Boobooks, where I bought three out of print paperbacks for a song. Worth a visit if you’re up this way.

    Everyone masked, in the streets, in their cars, everywhere. The world’s gone mad.


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  22. Dot says:

    ““A failure by the New South Wales Government to implement provisions requiring drivers of air crew to be vaccinated and to wear face masks is to blame for the state’s unfolding coronavirus crisis, says Sky News Political Editor Andrew Clennell.””

    Clearly a falsifiable theory.

    All we need is a time machine and a real time Geiger counter for germs.


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  23. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    “Greens in hunt for candidate as Julian Burnside quits

    That sounds perfect for Bird.”

    That’s a large Scotch and a new keyboard you owe me….


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  24. Jorge says:

    Cohenite, I wasn’t thinking of comments about aboriginal activists.
    And stop it with the legal ramifications in Bird’s comments. You mean possible legal ramifications, all contestable.


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  25. egg_ says:

    “Freezing here in Armidale.”

    The instant the sun drops in big sky country.


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  26. Rockdoctor says:

    Kaysee

    I was wary but did state in an email that Gladys should know better. Later I questioned whether I should have played such a card. Thanks, I feel better after seeing her use it to bolster her campaign.


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  27. Tom says:

    How’s the good cheer and bonhomie going this evening, Cats?

    Good, thanks, Calli.

    The word for tonight is: patience.


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  28. kaysee says:

    Clearly a falsifiable theory.

    All we need is a time machine and a real time Geiger counter for germs.

    If limo driver hadn’t been part of the essential services where employees have to be tested, no one would have been any the wiser about him testing positive.

    If the government has implemented the provisions of those employees complying with the strict rules, limo driver would have tested negative, and NSW would have continued on its way.

    The current situation is the NSW government’s fault.


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  29. dover_beach says:

    Working through comments as we speak. Incl. settings. Appears on course.


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  30. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    Winston @ 6:34
    Wow, just, wow!

    And Alan Jones again on fire! He’s eviscerating Gladys and Chant. “Resign, Gladys” he’s just urged her.


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  31. mh says:

    NSW Police Minister David Elliot has just told Alan Jones that his own mother has dementia, he is the only person that his mother recognises, she lives only a few hundred yards from his house, and he has not seen his mother for six weeks.

    David Elliot, you absolute grub and coward.
    Hang your head in shame.


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  32. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    Mushroom,
    stop this now and please go away.


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  33. Mother Lode says:

    Greens in hunt for candidate as Julian Burnside quits

    Yeah. Hunt would be a perfect fit.


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  34. kaysee says:

    I was wary but did state in an email that Gladys should know better. Later I questioned whether I should have played such a card. Thanks, I feel better after seeing her use it to bolster her campaign.

    Rockdoctor, same here. I was reading up on the genocide and I came across the article. So they will play the sympathy card when it suits them. The lockdown measures in Greater Sydney are hard to believe. You are not supposed to talk to your neighbours if you meet them in the supermarket. If you live in an apartment block, another set of rules.


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  35. cohenite says:

    And stop it with the legal ramifications in Bird’s comments. You mean possible legal ramifications, all contestable.

    Fredrick Töben.


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  36. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    calli,
    v cold, here, too!


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  37. johanna says:

    I couldn’t care less about Bird’s witterings about conspiracies, but the one about rabbis doing things to babies’ penises was just plain disgusting.

    Foul.

    What kind of mind comes up with that kind of sicko shit?

    He would not be missed.


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  38. srr says:

    I don’t know what Dot’s referring to but I’ll answer this –

    johanna says:
    August 4, 2021 at 8:10 pm
    “Like srr in 2016, after a while you had to wade through pages of it to find anything else. Not to mention that she accused all of us of being spies bought by the UN. ”

    First, there is one of me, I have no socks, no gang of friends I’d call to my aid the way others touch up ‘friends’ for a gang attack, so of course, when I post a bit of news, and one, two, three & more hit me with bullshit claims to “prove” what they can read for themselves and other such school yard bullying shit, the INTENDED ‘look’, if I counter all the false claims by different posters is that ‘my topics are all about me’, and every half experienced net head knows that.
    Yet if I don’t counter them, they remain believed lies, because I didn’t answer them.
    It’s a lose, lose, situation for me that I wouldn’t play IF it was, ‘all about me’, but it is NOT, and you all know it, which is why you work so hard to make it seem so.

    And here I am yet again explaining the old internet bullying game, to some of the most expert net heads.
    Why?
    There may be one youngster who’s stumbled in and wants to learn this game of Social Engineering. After all, it was for Social Engineering that the powers that be made world wide internet access not only available but now even a requirement for even the poorest of people to function in society.

    And NO, johanna, I didn’t, “accused all of us of being spies bought by the UN.”, I did however describe a number of different sorts of professional forum workers & how & why they did the things they do on the Net.
    Not my fault so many took such great offence at recognising themselves in those descriptions.


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  39. K2 says:

    Good to see Ed Case dropping in.

    Ditch the sock. Ed.


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  40. mh says:

    ‘Imagine the fear and emotional deprivation of someone who cannot recognise but one person and that one person denies his presence. For shame. I have not been as good a son as I should have been. But shame on piggy.’

    Graeme, I wasn’t exaggerating either. Anyone who watched AJ can verify.


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  41. johanna says:

    ”egg_ says:
    August 4, 2021 at 8:35 pm

    “Freezing here in Armidale.”

    The instant the sun drops in big sky country.”
    ————————————–
    Not big sky country here, more set in a ring of mountains, but yes.

    In winter, the minute the sun disappears, it’s all over.

    Today we just managed over 10C.

    Fossil fuels rookOK.


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  42. calli says:

    NSW Police Minister David Elliot has just told Alan Jones that his own mother has dementia, he is the only person that his mother recognises, she lives only a few hundred yards from his house, and he has not seen his mother for six weeks.

    Shameful.

    Is this person seeking approval? Sympathy?

    That poor old lady.


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  43. rickw says:

    What a lack of manners.

    Indeed.


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  44. Grigory M says:

    The word for tonight is: patience.

    The words for tonight, and every night, should be:

    Let Adam D, make his own decisions about the blog. It is, after all, his – not yours.

    Not Dot’s or anyone else’s either.


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  45. kaysee says:

    NSW Police Minister David Elliot has just told Alan Jones that his own mother has dementia, he is the only person that his mother recognises, she lives only a few hundred yards from his house, and he has not seen his mother for six weeks.

    The same minister who wants Security guards at supermarkets? Like this one?

    Security guard refuses to let single mum shop at Woolworths – because she had her kids with her


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  46. Struth says:

    Bird, you are a left wing, collectivist.. racist.
    To claim an entire people based on race have collective guilt is sick.
    Full stop.
    You are a sick perverse racist.
    All here have denounced you.
    In that way the blog will not be closed down as none have agreed with you and all are proclaiming a wish for you to be banned.
    You are an unwelcome commenter here, as I am sure you are acutely aware.
    But because all have denounced you and this blog has only just started with a busy fellow running it, it will only be a matter of time and you’ll be gone.
    I personally find you insignificant, and I do believe others here worry too much about what you may be capable of.
    In their own protestations against you they ensure the blogs survival.
    You do not hold values of centre right commenters this blog was set up for.
    So to the others, he isn’t going to achieve the goal of getting this blog shut down for two reasons.
    One of them is that the people now in charge agree with him, and never are people like him silenced anymore by big tech or governments.
    And two, we have all clearly and publicly opposed his views.
    Remember, numbers was a sick communist and Monty espoused violence “punch a Nazi”.
    So don’t wet yourselves over bird, I’m sure he’ll be gone soon as he’s more tedious than anything else.


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  47. cohenite says:

    I think this is appropriate. One of the best shorts; the Punisher takes out some trash:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWpK0wsnitc


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  48. mh says:

    Calli, Elliot was trying to push a ‘all in this together’ message when Jones asked him if he could live on $750 per week.

    btw, a lot of people in Qld could live on $750 a week. Because that’s there normal pay.
    It would be tough in Sydney though, I bet.


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  49. johanna says:

    srr, stop trying to rewrite history.

    It doesn’t matter if you are here as a sentient being.

    Good. Let’s move forward.


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  50. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    “Fossil fuels rookOK.”

    A log fire, a leather armchair, a good book and something from a crystal decanter.


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  51. Adam D says:

    Will wade through the waters tomorrow morning and make some decisions. 3000 comments is a lot to go through.

    Will likely open up some spots for moderators but want to have a clear plan in place as well as minimal moderation.

    Also would like to point out many competing ideas so there will be disappointment regardless of which direction we go.


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  52. K2 says:

    Armenia is the oldest continuous nation/kingdom/peoples in Europe. 4100 years and counting.

    So Mushroom Whisperer, were the young turks Jews out to slaughter Armenians for being non-Jews, or were the young turks Muslims out to slaughter the Armenians for being Jews?


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  53. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “Ya see Lizzie, after a few years of you posting travel diaries and us being sceptical of the timing, you admitted it was all bullshit.”

    That is utter nonsense