Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

Hi Cats,

As you can see I have created a copy of the Cat for you to continue to bicker, argue and occasionally make a reasonable point.

I do hope a solution is found with the original Cat but just in case Sinc doesn’t want to transfer the site to a new generation I have built a replica before the closure so we can migrate as many of the community across as possible.

Programming Note: I rushed out the site so there will be bugs. I can get them fixed but did not want perfection to get in the way for progress.

Community Note: Please let as many cats know of the new blog as soon as possible so we can capture the magic of the original. In particular would love for the original posters to continue their great work here.

Ideological Note: I am an infrequent poster but long time reader of the Cat. The discussions there have been a huge part of my own ideological growth on many issues. In particular free speech is key for me so will have a very similar light touch to the original Cat, potentially adopting my one policy on an earlier forum I built: “No D***heads” which is subjective but surprisingly easy to implement.

Website Note: I will run the Cat as close to possible as the original because I don’t believe in re-inventing the wheel. However if the community so wants I am happy to make changes to improve the experience so if you have any ideas let me know. For anything specific hit me up at the contact form, else go nuts in the comments.

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3,112 Responses to Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

  1. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    ok, then?


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  2. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    your name’s not right


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  3. Vicki says:

    “I am blaming the WEF, Klaus Schwab, and the commo corruptocrat elites in the UN and it’s many different forms and organisations including the likes of Bill Gates and others.”

    As usual, Struth, you are right on the money – literally.

    The “Build Back Better” mob are the Great Reset mob in another guise. It makes me dizzy. I watched (sorry, will look for the link) the young Dutch parliamentarian catching out the Dutch PM on his affiliation with Schwarb & others. It was wonderful – particularly coming from a brand new MP & so young. His hand shook as he produced a letter proving the PM was lying – but he held his nerve. There is hope yet.

    I have a grandson who is sceptical by nature, from a small tot. Inherited the gene? But also a granddaughter who is far more scholastic, but also very very woke. Who will prevail?


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  4. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “A little more patience is required to see the new Cat emerge from the current experimental stage.”

    Yes. Adam is working on it, no doubt.

    Meanwhile, we just have to make decency apparent in feelings about Birdstrikes. I think it must be hard for Cassie, SSR, and others with a Jewish background, to put up with the stinking nonsense though. It’s difficult enough for everyone else, including those like Calli and me who have relatives by marriage who are much loved Jewish family members.


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  5. Baba says:

    “She had started at a heavier weight – 120kg and 125kg – than most of the field but was unable to execute a clean snatch.”

    Fixed


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  6. H B Bear says:

    She had started at a heavier weight – 120kg and 125kg – than most of the field but was unable to execute a clean lift.

    Still thinking like a bloke seems to be the problem. For men, everything is a pissing contest.


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  7. Sancho Panzer says:

    The Mushroom Whisperer.
    You have good knowledge of many things.But is difficult for me to understand for English is not my mother tongue.


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  8. mh says:

    Monty, you’re not required here.

    Just saying.


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  9. Vicki says:

    “Grandmas are great and needed on the Cat. We can see back over the years and forward for our grandchildren. ”

    Yes, Lizzie, we have a contribution to make. I am an inveterate letter writer to the newspapers – have been for 50 years. But I love the Cat because we have such informed, committed, intelligent contributors. And, unlike the Letters to Editor space, you can have a running debate. I am very grateful for the generosity of most Cats.


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  10. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    “m0nty says:
    August 3, 2021 at 9:20 am
    This site is not going to be much good if the owner is almost completely absent, nothing works properly and there’s no content.”

    Feel free to f##k off whenever you please, monty.


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  11. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    Vicki @9:26
    +1


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  12. HD says:

    China criticises Australian domestic policy. Nothing like a good bit of hypocrisy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8KScb7XjzE

    Gee, where did the bar normally above the reply text box go to? The one for italicising, hyperlinking…etc…


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  13. Ruprecht says:

    “ This site is not going to be much good if the owner is almost completely absent, nothing works properly and there’s no content.”

    Sounds a lot like your head Monty


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  14. John Brumble says:

    Couldn’t make a snatch, huh?


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  15. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “Elizabeth.
    I appreciate you thinking on Franco.
    Also what is fellow grandmother?
    Is this more of transgender?”

    lol, Pancho. I don’t know a lot about Franco, but I was romantically on the side of the left in the Spanish Civil War. Franco was a brutal dictator, but he had considerable support. I would like to know more of where that came from, and if you can help, please comment on that.

    Fellow grandmothers are special people, Sancho. Members of a ‘fellowship’, which means a group who have particular things in common forming an outlook, in this case our grandchildren. Nothing to do with transgenderism, as I suspect you already know. But a good call on the term, it made me laugh as it was tres amusant .

    Now let me see if my HTML works.


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  16. srr says:

    “Sancho Panzer says:
    August 3, 2021 at 8:55 am
    Should I get two smart phones srr?
    How do we defeat this?”

    I’m of the, be in the world, not of the world, variety.
    Sometimes the best we can do is simply refuse to call a lie the truth, not sell poison as medicine and accept that those who do will make your worldly life hell for refusing to join them.


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  17. wivenhoe says:

    The thing I find amusing about Hubbard is that he couldn’t make it as a male, and couldn’t make it as a female so what is his next iteration going to be. Maybe compete as a skirt lifter.


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  18. Mark A says:

    m0nty says:
    August 3, 2021 at 9:20 am

    This site is not going to be much good if the owner is almost completely absent, nothing works properly and there’s no content.

    Still smarting that your offer (generous and graceful as it was) to run the new Cat was unanimously rejected?

    I agree however that when help is offered it should be at least considered.
    I think maybe egos come into it.

    Some of the problems could be corrected very easily.
    BTW I’m not offering my help, the highest programming language I’m proficient in is Assembly and I don’t Adam used it.

    Not saying I couldn’t cobble something together in C++ or others but coding is not what I do for a living.


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  19. rickw says:

    This site is not going to be much good if the owner is almost completely absent, nothing works properly and there’s no content.

    Most people don’t have as much spare time as you. Feel free to leave.


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  20. twostix says:

    LinkedIn: ground zero of bugman professional managerial class vapid virtue signalling and group-hug patting on the back, surprised me today.

    In my monthly check in to see what’s what, I see Morrison’s announcement of the ‘plan’ to ‘free’ us from the government’s captivity has been met with….a minor revolt by the managerial class with comments like this being voted up up up:

    And yet the UK have only 65% vaccination rate and are fully open. 70% will not be reached for some time – and 80% very unlikely at all. This is a hopeless plan that just gives each state and territory permission to continue lockdowns for the foreseeable future.
    ….

    So Scott Morrison, what does that mean for the Australians that either ‘don’t want’ or ‘can’t have’ the vaccine? Because according to the press conference by you, essentially that demographic of people will be punished for not being part of this ‘clinical trial’. And I call it a ‘clinical trial’, because that’s exactly what it is. All documents state quite clearly that the ‘clinical trials’ are not due to end until around 2023.

    So what ‘exactly’ is ‘your plan’ for those people?

    Also, what’s being done about the thousands of vaccine injuries occurring across the globe? Why are these being ignored completely and these vaccines still being pushed despite them.

    If tame liberal voters are breaking out in the verified-identity Maoist cult centre of LinkedIn…Morrison and his stupid ‘plan’ and the entire narrative is in trouble.


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  21. miltonf says:

    Interesting how being stupid, nasty and connected can make you very very wealthy. Exhibit A Fitzsimmons and what’s her name. Maybe stupid, nasty and connected should include sly and cunning.


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  22. egg_ says:

    I would argue the Open Thread is the home of ‘out there’ discussions.
    Play/don’t play is the user’s choice.

    Depends on what meets the clown posse’s approval.

    Luna Park fire conspiracehs! seem OK.


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  23. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Pancho, I did not know that English is not your mother tongue.

    It is a strange language with many expressions that are part of the cultural traditions – such as the saying ‘it is raining cats and dogs’. English also has words that draw on other languages, it is a polyglot language, so one concept in English can have six or seven words that offer different shades of the same meaning. Thus we have a Thesaurus, in which you can seek for any given word the words that are similar in meaning – synonyms – and words that carry an opposite sort of meaning – antonyms.

    Good luck with your English. Try to speak English as well, for the pronunciation is not always as it is spelled out. That is another aspect of having English descend in history through many iterations and with many varied cultural contacts.


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  24. struth says:

    Word wall to make all feel at home.

    Here are some facts you can’t get around unless you are putting emotion first.
    These genetic modifiers are not vaccines.
    They do not work.
    If they did the vaccinated would not care who is vaccinated around them.
    The “oh they sort of work but only if everyone else gets it” ……is insanity.
    It doesn’t work or it does.
    It doesn’t.
    None of them do.
    None of them were supposed to.
    Booster shots will constantly be needed to save you from nothing at all.
    Your passport that you have drooled over thinking it will free you, won’t get you a trip overseas but it may get you into the shops for now, until another jab is required, or a bill needs to be paid, or like in China, you have spoken to the wrong people or own too many pets etc.
    That’s the conclusion drawn by these facts from the sane.
    If you have not had an autopsy, cause of death is always a guess.
    ALWAYS.
    Maybe an educated guess, but it’s still not verdict you can rely on being one hundred percent accurate.

    People are being “hospitalised by covid” when in fact they were hospitalised by other problems and tested once they were in hospital.
    Many people used to get hospitalised by bad flus every year as well, but that was back in the sane years (all years before 2020)
    That test has been proven to be and admitted by the CDC to be wildly inaccurate and unable to tell the difference between viruses (hence the disappearance of the yearly flu)
    Nowhere in the world has the overall death rate risen and nowhere in the world have hospitals been over run due to covid.
    Covid has over a 99.8 survivability, which means it’s better for oldies to catch that than the common flus which kill thousands more oldies every year.

    But here are some other undisputable facts.
    Klaus Schwab and the WEF, with the support of the UN and all it’s corrupt subsidiaries like the WHO and CEPI openly admit that they are bringing in the great reset.
    Which is nothing short of tyranny by digital means.
    On a scale unimaginable to tyrants of the past.
    Thanks to technology.
    They openly tell us that we will eat much less meat, we won’t own anything (they will) and we will be happy share renting.
    We will eat bugs instead, and as you can see they are starting with that rot already.
    They will do these by collapsing the western economies with hyperinflation.
    They will be moving us out of country areas and “rewilding” to save the planet, and by the way, there needs to be at least 2 billion less of us to save the planet.
    They say this on their own websites.
    Facts.
    Facts.
    Facts.

    These people who have imprisoned us have just taken the fuel tax from their private jets.

    These are facts.
    I’m sure many would like to believe that it’s about a virus, but 18 months later, with vaccine passports the goal, and now being introduced, something far more devastating than a bloody cold awaits us if people will not accept the hard facts and continue to delude themselves with easier to swallow lies.


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  25. Mark A says:

    Franco was a brutal dictator

    Is there any other kind?
    I thought it was only a matter of degree.

    There is a reason why there is no ‘benevolent’ dictator anywhere and never was, never will be.


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  26. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “This site is not going to be much good if the owner is almost completely absent, nothing works properly and there’s no content.”

    I think M0nts really does care for this site, Rick, so we should cut him some slack here. He is stating an obvious truth, but unlike the rest of us, he is hassling Adam unfairly at this stage in the development of the new Cat.


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  27. struth says:

    Lindsay Graham has the flu.
    The PCR test cannot distinguish the difference.
    Hard for some people to believe because they still put too much faith in others and corrupted, marched through, socialist medicine.


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  28. rickw says:

    Everybody should look at the Freedom Phone.

    Tim “The Beanie” Pool had the creator his show not long ago as a guest.

    Dot, do they work ok on our telecommunist mobile networks?

    I sent them an email query on this but didn’t get a response.


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  29. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “Word wall to make all feel at home.”

    Yep, sure does Struth, and not all of it is nonsense either. I find the general push to align the climate issues, which are very unevidenced, with Covid, which is reasonably well-evidenced imho, a very disturbing trend. This Great Re-set is something which we should all be fighting as hard as we can, for it is truly malign.


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  30. m0nty says:

    “Still smarting that your offer (generous and graceful as it was) to run the new Cat was unanimously rejected?”

    (Not sure if blockquote is working?)

    No Mark, I understand why, but I am disappointed.

    If the Dash site is going to attract contributors and fix bugs, it needs Adam to be present and working on it. It seems like he has half-arsed it. Would love to be proven wrong.


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  31. Dot says:

    I might start blogging here.

    It might even be about BlockChain!

    Or Freedom Phones.

    Or the surveillance state.

    Or how many rights we don’t have.

    Or the perfect form of government.


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  32. Roger says:

    “If punters are paid and it all goes horribly wrong, do they have a case to sue the Commonwealth (keeping in mind that pharma is indemnified).”

    Be patient, calli; there’s only so much detail you can fit on a napkin and the costings took up most of the space.


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  33. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Adam, yell out if you need some funding or assistance. Cats stand ready to help.


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  34. Old School Conservative says:

    But was still trounced by real girls. Not girly men. Girls.

    Those girls will need to do a Dean Lukin and lose a lot of weight before entering the world outside of their sport.


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  35. mh says:

    Someone posted above.
    Just highlighting this is Paul Joseph Watson.
    Needs to go viral this one

    Australia Has Fallen
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8KScb7XjzE


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  36. rickw says:

    LinkedIn: ground zero of bugman professional managerial class vapid virtue signalling and group-hug patting on the back, surprised me today.

    I do and don’t understand the mentality. I know conservatives who got the jab because it suited their age and medical situation. They said as much about it as they would have said about a flu shot.

    Then there’s the other category. Zoom photo changed to them with their vaccine certificate and background changed to the “fully vaccinated” check mark.

    The cause of the difference? Mental illness IMHO.


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  37. H B Bear says:

    I thought all dictators started out as benevolent ones? You start out loving the people and up having to kill them – for their own good of course.


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  38. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “There is a reason why there is no ‘benevolent’ dictator anywhere and never was, never will be.”

    Originally the term “Dicatator” was developed as part of the Roman polity as a short term appointment of someone who could solve problems and get things done. Caesar turned the appointment into a permanent one.

    We all know how that turned out with the Ides of March. You can read a short history of that here:

    https://www.shorthistory.org/ancient-civilizations/ancient-rome/julius-caesar-as-dictator-and-the-ides-of-march-44-bc/


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  39. H B Bear says:

    One thing you can’t accuse mUnty of being is half arsed. Twice ankled maybe.


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  40. candy says:

    “Also what is fellow grandmother?
    Is this more of transgender?”

    That’s pretty clever, Sancho. I bet you speak absolutely perfectly good English.
    Just a hunch.


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  41. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “Or the perfect form of government.”

    OK, Plato. We’re waiting. 🙂


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  42. mh says:

    Reading the comments on the PJW vid

    Areyoukiddingme
    5 hours ago
    Australia is officially OFF my bucket list!! So sorry for all the good people of Australia!😥😢😭😥😢😭


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  43. Cassie of Sydney says:

    Norman Swan is a disgrace..so when will Youtube suspend their ABC for misinformation?


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  44. Sancho Panzer says:

    Thank you for the best wishes with the English Elizabeth.
    My ESL teacher says to me to engage in blogs and social media to learn English-Australian idiots.
    Sometimes there is too much idiots and I do not understand.


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  45. Roger says:

    Adam D.,

    Please add to your list of blog updates:

    The Liberty Quote that appears on every page is not from Abraham Lincoln and if it is to appear as a permanent feature it should be corrected. It’s by American poetess Emma Wheeler Wilcox:

    ‘To sin by silence, when we should protest,
    Makes cowards out of men. The human race
    Has climbed on protest. Had no voice been raised
    Against injustice, ignorance, and lust,
    The inquisition yet would serve the law,
    And guillotines decide our least disputes.
    The few who dare, must speak and speak again
    To right the wrongs of many. Speech, thank God,
    No vested power in this great day and land
    Can gag or throttle…’

    Lincoln, otoh, attempted to undermine the 1st Amendment by suspending habeus corpus in order to suppress dissent against his war, leading to the trial before military tribunals and subsequent imprisonment of civilians who called for peace.

    No doubt he thought right was on his side; they all do.


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  46. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    I see that I still have much to learn in the HTML formatting line.

    I think I may wait for that glorious day when the buttons reappear.

    No pressure, Adam, no pressure at all. 🙂


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  47. E.J. says:

    Have you all seen this legislation put up by MP Craig Kelly..still fighting on!
    https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2021B00078


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  48. Sancho Panzer says:

    Oh no.
    I mean idioms.
    Not idiots.
    I am thinking Sancho is now the idiot.


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  49. Barking Toad says:

    hehe – thank you Baba @ 9:29am


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  50. candy says:

    Monty was good to offer the use of his site. In the end though how could he resist the urge to chuck people off if he really felt affronted by their conservative non-liberal views.

    Prof. Davidson was pretty sturdy in that regard and kept people on despite issues with viewpoints.


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  51. candy says:

    Sancho is having you on, Lizzie. A trickster of some sort.


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  52. m0nty says:

    My ESL teacher says to me to engage in blogs and social media to learn English-Australian idiots.
    Sometimes there is too much idiots and I