Open Thread – Tuesday 17 August 2021

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  1. caveman says:

    Don’t stab my arm my jabby jabby arm

    Billy Ray Virus.

     

     


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  2. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    At least one inquiry-linked SAS soldier accused of Afghan war crimes sent back to Kabul

    Michael Traill & Lanai ScarrThe West Australian

    Sun, 22 August 2021 10:16PM

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    Chief of the Australian Defence Force (ADF) General Angus Campbell. Credit: AAP Image/Mick Tsikas

    A Special Air Service Regiment soldier accused of Afghan war crimes was redeployed to the country for the evacuation mission in Kabul after he was “quietly” cleared of the allegations, it has been revealed.
    Connected to the Brereton Inquiry — a report on war crimes — the soldier is among a contingent of Defence Force personnel sent to evacuate Australians and allied-Afghan nationals from encroaching Taliban fighters in Kabul.
    The revelation about their exoneration emerged last night, despite the head of Defence Media telling The West Australian on Friday that no one connected to the Brereton Inquiry had been deployed to Afghanistan.
    Any information to the contrary was “not true”, a spokeswoman said.
    Prime Minister Scott Morrison also dismissed questions over the matter when asked by The West last week.
    News Corp last night reported that the solider was one of 13 soldiers, whose names have been quietly cleared.
    They were last week sent a letter from the authority of the Defence chief stating: “I am not satisfied that there is sufficient information available to me to refer the matter” to investigators.”
    The findings of the Brereton report were handed down by the Chief of the Australian Defence Force, Gen. Angus Campbell, pictured, in November last year to much fanfare. And former Special Forces major Heston Russell blasted the decision to quietly clear the group — arguing their vindication deserved to be highlighted as prominently as the Brereton report itself.
    “The allegations were made so publicly they did immeasurable harm to morale and now the climb down is being done quietly while everyone else is distracted,” he said.
    “The problem is that the inquiry has put hesitation into the minds of every member of the defence force … second guessing yourself in Afghanistan can be deadly.”


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  3. rickw says:

    <em>

    Vigilant neighbours alert crimestoppers as criminals gather to sing hymns.

    Australia is such a lovely place. </em>

    The Holocaust didn’t happen by accident.


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  4. mh says:

    Unchecked leaders lock us into states of mental desperation
    A police force that enforces arbitrary state regulation to control human behaviour may be part of daily life in some countries, but it is not the way we do things here.

    By NICK CATER


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  5. thefrollickingmole says:

    calli says:
    August 23, 2021 at 7:28 am

    Gruinaid hyperventilating over that as well.

    How dare people gather in groups for worship.
    Being close to one another.

    Not responsible like this…

    https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/2021-05-25T122242Z_44978576_RC2HUI9UV64A_RTRMADP_3_HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS-AUSTRALIA.jpg?resize=770%2C513


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  6. thefrollickingmole says:

    David “GAS THEM ALL!!!”Elliott quoting cod-scripture.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/23/extraordinary-police-fine-dozens-of-churchgoers-after-service-in-western-sydney-covid-hotspot
    Police say there was no QR code at the entrance and some of the congregation came from other Covid-19 hotspot local government areas, including Canterbury-Bankstown, Fairfield and Liverpool.
    Thirty adults were fined $1,000 each and the church was issued a $5,000 penalty.
    The police minister, David Elliott, was “quite stunned” by the reckless behaviour, saying if major cathedrals can stream services then suburban churches can as well.
    “Churches are there to profess the message of hope and love and to have those people endanger communities … is extraordinary,” he told Sydney radio 2GB on Monday.


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  7. mh says:

    Comment at the Age

    ’looking forward to seeing the proof transmission occurred at playgrounds. In the UK they think possibly 2 of millions occurred at a playground. They were never shut.’


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  8. Roger says:

    Morrison says we can’t live in lockdown forever, zero covid is unattainable and we should be more focused on hospitalisations than case numbers.

    Baby steps.

     

     

     

     


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  9. mh says:

    All these Covid fines MUST be cancelled.

    Just like Ron DeSantis cancelled the fines of Floridians.


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  10. srr says:

    As far as I remember the red rattlers were the electric trains that ran around Melbourne suburban lines until the early 80’s. Are these the same trains you’re thinking of?

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    no, not the poor melbourne commuter carriages, the old wood carriages with the separate compartments & windows you could open & shut.

    like this


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  11. struth says:

    Thanks for the song suggestions.

     

    Really, aren’t we past quoting what Sco Mo says?

    It means nothing.


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  12. mh says:

    Silly Solly’s bizarre new offering driven by Covid pandemic
    A leading discount retailer is defying the Covid-19 headwinds and opening three new stores in Queensland in the next few months — with the aim of 100 in Australia in a few years.
    ***
    Not sure what the bizarre part is that the Courier Paywall story is referring to, but this retailer is obviously seeing a growth in the Australian underclass, forced to buy everything at discount prices.


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  13. srr says:

    As far as I remember the red rattlers were the electric trains that ran around Melbourne suburban lines until the early 80’s. Are these the same trains you’re thinking of?

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    no, not the poor melbourne commuter carriages, the old wood carriages with the separate compartments & windows you could open & shut.

    like this

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Railways_E_type_carriage


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  14. mh says:

    Melbourne Prisoner
    https://twitter.com/melbprisoner/status/1429275869206302724?s=20

    @melbprisoner

    Australian former NBA star Andrew Bogut says he was offered money to promote lockdowns, but refused. Clip below, and link to the full 11 minute video released on Instagram yesterday: https


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  15. Roger says:

    “Australian former NBA star Andrew Bogut says he was offered money to promote lockdowns, but refused.”

     

    LOL. Anyone from government who tried to get Bogut on board the lockdown train clearly hasn’t been paying attention.


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  16. Jorge says:

    Who Let the Dogs Out.

    Or should we save that one till later ?


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  17. mh says:

    Craig Kelly joins Clive Palmer’s UAP.


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  18. Roger says:

    Really, aren’t we past quoting what Sco Mo says?

    It means nothing.

     

    While he holds the keys to the Treasury it’s not nothing.

    The Premiers can’t impose lockdowns with impunity without Commonwealth support.

     

     


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  19. Rorschach says:

    Don’t stab my arm my jabby jabby arm

    Billy Ray Virus.

     

    Maybe:

    Don’t stab my arm, that jab will do me harm

    I just don’t think you’d understand

    That if you stab my arm, my achy breaky heart
    He might blow up and kill this man…


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  20. Figures says:

    How many times has ScoMo pledged to get past lockdowns now?

    A dozen? Maybe this time he pinky swears.

    And yes Roger he does have the keys to the Treasury. He also has the army. And guess what that army is doing right now?


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  21. H B Bear says:

    Good to see people pulling up Sneakers attempting to move the goal posts we will never reach before the teams are even on the field.  How much more supercilious grandstanding will we have to put up with?


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  22. H B Bear says:

    Yeah SloMo and Josh will turn off the taps.  *walks away shaking head*


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  23. struth says:

    Freedom just means a change of mindset.

    Disobey and you

    are free.

    It is that simple.

     

    I still have not worn a mask, had a test, a jab, or QR coded in anywhere, and would never lock myself in my own home.

    When people stop doing that TO THEMSELVES then we might be able to free our borders and hold these pricks accountable.


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  24. Indolent says:

    A document just released by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) openly admits that the infamous PCR test for the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) was developed not with actual samples of the Chinese Virus, but rather what appears to be genetic material from a common cold virus.

    FDA document admits “covid” PCR test was developed without isolated covid samples for test calibration, effectively admitting it’s testing something else – Freedom Of Speech (fos-sa.org)

    More confirmation, if any is needed, that David Martin and Fred Corbin were absolutely right.  There is no novel virus.   In Fred Corbin’s opinion both the virus and the vaccines are bioweapons.


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  25. Figures says:

    If you simply look at what they are saying, you should be able to easily grasp the fact that it is totally impossible for there to be any finality. They have not created a path for the program to end. You don’t have to be a sociologist or a mathematician to see that: there is no path out of this, if there are an arbitrary number of mutant strains that beat the vaccines.

    This will be the way the West dies. Period.

     

    What are you talking about? The vaccines will clearly save us.

     

    Not the first two shots obviously. I’m talking about the 20th booster. Not the 19th booster – that would obviously be premature. Not the 21st booster – that would clearly be going too far. Definitely the 20th booster.


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  26. Indolent says:

    When people stop doing that TO THEMSELVES then we might be able to free our borders and hold these pricks accountable.

    ***********************

    I feel sick to my stomach when I see people voluntarily QR coding and it’s widespread, at least in my area.


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  27. Makka says:

    The Premiers can’t impose lockdowns with impunity without Commonwealth support.

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    So Scummo is supporting lockdowns, which means he supports the Police thuggery we have seen last year and again this year.

    You assume Scummo has a spine. I’m betting the state Prems will continue to run rings around him at the 70-80% vax mark.

    State Prems: ” We have been keeping you safe, now that we want to continue doing so that evil Scummo is witholding vital Govt funds which we use for education , ‘elf and law enforcement. Baaaaad Scummo.

    Proles: ” Yeahhhh”.

    Scummo caves.

     


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  28. Speedbox says:

    Roger says:
    August 23, 2021 at 9:57 am

    The Premiers can’t impose lockdowns with impunity without Commonwealth support.

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    I think I saw a couple of days ago, Morrison (or it might have been Friedchickenburger) saying that once the vaccination rate reaches 80%, any lockdowns will be at the State’s cost.   No federal support payable.  That’ll sort the men from the boys.


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  29. mh says:

    Leader

    Craig Kelly MP

    @CraigKellyMP

    4m

    With endless lockdowns, emergence of a police state, censorship & our state borders shut I no longer recognise the country I grew up in & I fear for our nation’s future   I have therefore decided to accept the offer to lead the United Australia Party to provide a true alternative


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  30. Indolent says:

    You assume Scummo has a spine.

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    How do we know he’s not the instigator?  If he’s talking about 70% or 80% then it’s never.  Not even Israel has reached that point.


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  31. Speedbox says:

    Quite possible Makka.  Scotty doesn’t have a spine and he has an election coming.


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  32. H B Bear says:

    People will be quite happy to roll SloMo.  Some Premiers less so.  I think the Stockholm Syndrome is still strong out there.


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  33. H B Bear says:

    I think I saw a couple of days ago, Morrison (or it might have been Friedchickenburger) saying that once the vaccination rate reaches 80%, any lockdowns will be at the State’s cost.   No federal support payable

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    Wont happen.


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  34. Speedbox says:

    I think we can be certain that Palacechook and Dan, at least, will be more than happy to kick the Feds.


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  35. Speedbox says:

    I think we can be certain that Palacechook and Dan will be more than happy to kick the Feds.


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  36. struth says:

    For god sake peoples….Sco Moi misn’t weak look at what he does not what he says.

    He set this whole thing up.

    He took the constitution and wiped his arse with it and so the state’s health departments could control something they know nothing about and can use to tyrannise…quarantine.

    FFS, these people are locking down the healthy in their millions.

    People like Sco Mo are laughing at your enthusiasm  for excusing bad behaviour, like some mother saying “My son got in with a bad crowd” when he in reality, led the bad crowd.

    THEY HAVE IMPRISONED THE HEALTHY INNOCENTS IN THEIR MILLIONS and SCO MO HAS STOPPED US LEAVING THE COUNTRY.

    He is head jailer.

    If it weren’t for Sco Mo we could escape this prison.

    Please stop and think about5 what is going on.

    If Sco MO wanted this stopped he has a thousand ways to do it.


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  37. mh says:

    Horse man icon of freedom
    Police hunt for mounted protester after fiery border rally
    Police have charged a man and dished out dozens of fines for breaching health orders after a lockdown protest at the border – but they’re still chasing a protester who was riding a horse.


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  38. thefrollickingmoile says:

    Nearly sleepy time for cotton brained Joe.

     

    https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1429549032167415809

     

     


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  39. Baba says:

    Morrison now leading a minority government.  Should be more careful as to whom he treats like shit.


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  40. Mater says:

    Not wanting to steal traffic from this site, but I’d be interested in peoples thoughts on my most recent post re: Melbourne Protest.

    https://newcatallaxy.blog/2021/08/23/self-defence-the-most-violent-in-20-years/


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  41. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:

    ….but they’re still chasing a protester who was riding a horse.

    How kind have cops/govt been to horse type people in the Gold Coast & border region?
    If they’re not inclined to dob him in, the cops’ll never know who he is.


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  42. Top Ender says:

    NT News:

    THE murder trial of NT Police officer Zach Rolfe has been postponed indefinitely after the High Court granted a last minute application to stay proceedings.

    Prosecutors applied for the stay after seeking leave to appeal an NT Supreme Court decision allowing Rolfe to rely on a “good faith” immunity under the Police Administration Act.

    In her decision, handed down just an hour before the jury was due to be impanelled, Justice Jacqueline Gleeson ordered the trial be put off until after the High Court had had a chance to review the lower court’s ruling.

    Justice Gleeson noted that the proper interpretation of the immunity provision was a matter of significant public importance, that the Crown had substantial prospects of obtaining a grant of special leave to appeal and that there were exceptional circumstances warranting a stay pending the determination of the application.

    Rolfe has pleaded not guilty to the murder of 19-year-old Kumanjayi Walker in Yuendumu in 2019.

    The trial was formally stayed until after the High Court considers the case on September 10 but no new trial date will likely be found before some time next year.


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  43. cohenite says:

    “Justice Gleeson noted that the proper interpretation of the immunity provision was a matter of significant public importance, that the Crown had substantial prospects of obtaining a grant of special leave to appeal and that there were exceptional circumstances warranting a stay pending the determination of the application.”

    Bullshit.


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  44. a reader says:

    So…800 odd “positive tests” from over 311,000 nasal mining exercises. 3 octogenarians cark it from a respiratory illness (when they were already on death’s door from other reasons) and this is enough justification to lock 2.3 million healthy people in their houses for 23 hours a day. What a fucking joke


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  45. Eyrie says:

    “If Sco MO wanted this stopped he has a thousand ways to do it.”

     

    Send the Army to arrest the Premiers if they won’t open up. The SAS could do the Supremo Maximum Leader of Western Australia


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  46. Shy Ted says:

    So, I’ve read a fair bit about vaxxes in recent times, in particular any links to autism.

    Came across this test for measuring IQ in ASD.

    Clever stuff. Thought I’d give it a go. I might just be Rain Man.


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  47. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:

    The Victoria Cross awarded to David Elliott is still up on his Wikipedia page.  Heh!


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  48. calli says:

    The Victoria Cross awarded to David Elliott is still up on his Wikipedia page.  Heh!

     

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


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  49. mh says:

    Three people who had COVID-19 have died:

    A man in his 80s from south-west Sydney died at Liverpool Hospital, where he acquired his infection. His is the 11th death linked to an outbreak at the hospital’s geriatric ward.
    A man in his 80s from Newcastle died at John Hunter Hospital, having acquired his infection at the RFBI Hawkins Masonic Village in Edgeworth. This is the second death linked to an outbreak at this aged care facility.
    A woman in her 80s from south-west Sydney died at Campbelltown Hospital.
    ***

    Everyday the figures reinforce what we already know . That is the threat is almost non-existent to those with a functioning immune system. You don’t need vaccines or the subsequent booster shots for the rest of your life.


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  50. mh says:

    Palmer unveils $60m federal election war chest
    Clive Palmer’s United Australia Party is promising to match or exceed its record $60 million campaign war chest at the last federal election, promising to run in all 151 seats and in the Senate across the country