Open Thread – Tuesday 17 August 2021

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  1. JMH says:

    Roger: Advise your local member of this and tell him why, JMH.
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    Don’t worry. She, plus others will get the f/u treatment as we get closer to Election date.
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    I should add, I have an open file containing points as to why the LNP can get stuffed: Top of the list – Item No. 1:- Total capitulation to globalisation. including bending over and spreading cheeks for the UN pineapple!


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  2. H B Bear says:

    Some of the markups inside the NDIS would make a US defence contractor blush.


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  3. calli says:

    Has anyone seen Rabz about? Not here but on Discord?


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  4. H B Bear says:

    I’ll check my Twitter followers to make sure Louise Nilligan hasn’t snuck in there.


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  5. Fat Tony says:

    JMH says:
    August 19, 2021 at 5:49 pm
    Total capitulation to globalisation. including bending over and spreading cheeks for the UN pineapple!
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    Ahhh….that’d be spreading OUR cheeks for the UN pineapple!


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  6. JC says:

    So clearly, here it’s a risk of adverse reaction vs risk of contracting covid situation.

    Yes it is a trade off, except you’re not numerate enough to appreciate the lopsidedness of the two comparables.

    Vaxing means your chances of dying are around 1 in million or higher. Getting the vax means there is the 1 in a million risk, but it also means the virus symptoms are much more mellow compared to the unvaxed.

    Here’s your problem though. 85%.. read that again.. 85% of us (the world population ) will at some stage contract the Chinese bio-weapon virus.

    Plus the inevitable sanctions and restrictions coming for the unvaxxed. A devils formula is being presented to us.

    I’m sure it’s very taxing and appears to be a devil’s formula to you, Mak.


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  7. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Some of the markups inside the NDIS would make a US defence contractor blush.

    Speaking of which one of the bemusing things of late is the military-industrial complex that Lefties hated like ebola for two generations since the Vietnam protest days seems now to be their bestest of friends. Go figure.


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  8. Makka says:

    Possibly Eyrie, Israel has somewhat similar results with heaps of Vitamin D over similar outbreaks. Not as stark as UK though, admittedly. Then there is the restrictions and sanctions for the unvaxxed coming. That Plan has already been formulated awaiting rollout. The strong arming we are being subjected to is infuriating.


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  9. Top Ender says:

    Zach Rolfe murder trial to go ahead as planned unless High Court intervenes before Monday

    The murder trial of NT Police officer Zach Rolfe will go ahead as planned on Monday, pending an 11th hour bid for intervention by the High Court of Australia.

    Jason Walls, NT News
    Subscriber only

    THE murder trial of NT Police officer Zach Rolfe will go ahead as planned on Monday, pending an 11th hour bid for intervention by the High Court of Australia.

    Rolfe has pleaded not guilty to the unlawful killing of 19-year-old Kumanjayi Walker in a police shooting in Yuendumu during an arrest gone wrong in 2019.

    On Thursday, Crown prosecutor Philip Strickland SC applied for the trial to be stayed to allow the High Court to hear an application for an appeal of an earlier ruling of the NT Supreme Court which found an immunity defence under section 148B of the Police Administration Act could be put to the jury.

    Mr Strickland said the decision to allow the “good faith” defence was “manifestly wrong” as it was inconsistent with a similar provision in the Criminal Code that requires police officers’ actions to be reasonable for the immunity to apply.

    “If it is correct, a police officer could shoot a suspect dead and avoid criminal liability under s148B if a jury finds a reasonable possibility he was, in good faith, performing a core function,” he said.

    “Those functions are very broadly couched — maintaining social order, protecting life, preventing the commission of an offence.”

    Mr Strickland said the reasonableness clause in the Criminal Code provision served “to protect the citizens of the NT against the excessive use of force” by police.

    “We say the effect of the full bench ruling is, really, to very significantly widen the immunity in s148B and in effect, to undermine those protective provisions in the Criminal Code by removing the issue of reasonableness,” he said.

    In reply, Rolfe’s barrister David Edwardson QC said there was “no reason” to suspect any error in the reasoning of the Supreme Court judges, “who were all fiercely in agreement on this particular question”.

    “There is, in our respectful submission, absolutely no reason to think that the High Court is likely to intervene and particularly at this stage when the trial has already commenced,” he said.

    “The notion that my client would have his trial put off into the ether for a very significant and potentially substantial period of time cannot and should not be countenanced.”

    In declining to grant the stay, Justice Dean Mildren said he thought the prospect of success in the High Court was “limited” and on balance, the trial should proceed.

    “The accused has now had the spectre of the most serious charge known to the law threatening his liberty for almost two years,” he said.

    “Approximately 50 witnesses have endured the uncertainty of the requirement of having to give evidence at the same time.

    “In the case of the police witnesses, the deleterious impact of the burden of giving evidence in relation to the actions of a colleague is self-evident.

    “In the case of the civilian witnesses in the community at Yuendumu, it could be fairly said that the burden is equally if not more intolerable.”

    Justice Mildren said the Crown could still lodge an appeal after the trial was complete, although any decision on the application of s148B at that point would not affect an acquittal.

    “Although it will not be of much comfort to the Crown in this case, it will resolve the question of law for the future, should the High Court decide to grant special leave,” he said.

    But Mr Strickland said he would now apply for the High Court to grant a stay of its own, either on Friday or before the trial is due to begin on Monday morning.


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  10. Indolent says:

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  11. Dot says:

    *Terry Pedersen says:
    August 19, 2021 at 4:01 pm
    Labor Senator Katy Gallagher has resorted to wearing full PPE at home after her teen daughter caught Covid

    Eminently sensible.*

    Yes, totally normal too. Walk around your house like a pretend CDC doctor, insisting that a genetic variant of a cold causing virus is ebola.

    Totally, absolutely normal behaviour.


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  12. MatrixTransform says:

    I’m not in a pandemic as I’ve been double vaxed.

    I never took you for the religious type JC.


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  13. Dot says:

    *Vaxing means your chances of dying are around 1 in million or higher. Getting the vax means there is the 1 in a million risk, but it also means the virus symptoms are much more mellow compared to the unvaxed.*

    Depends who you are. The vaccines have their own screening questions.


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  14. Dot says:

    If I visit JC, will he make me wear a Katy Gallagher Sperm Suit?


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  15. MatrixTransform says:

    Bell’s palsy?

    I am not a Mong … I’m a human being


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  16. JC says:

    H B Bear says:
    August 19, 2021 at 5:50 pm

    Some of the markups inside the NDIS would make a US defence contractor blush.

    We have American pals and the wife markets/created special wear for people going into hospital for surgeries. She’s made a fortune. It’s also good for people with handicaps, such as yourself, who require zippers everywhere because of the loss of the use of limbs (ike you). She sells the stuff all over the world. One of her good customers is an NDIS equipment etc. provider who sells tons of her stuff with the assistance of the NDIS subsidies
    https://www.reboundwear.com/
    (My kid’s belly-button is in one of the pics in the female section. True.).


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  17. rickw says:

    West Sunshine industrial area was shut down today due to COVID in their sewer.

    That’s right, the fucking tards in Vic Gov shut down a whole suburb of factories over shit samples.

    People are starting to get really fucking pissed off.


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  18. Makka says:

    Here’s your problem though. 85%.. read that again.. 85% of us (the world population ) will at some stage contract the Chinese bio-weapon virus.

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    You’re the innumerate one numpty. Your conflating worldwide numbers with Australian numbers. In densely populated regions like Africa, India, South America, Asia the contraction numbers will be much higher than here. Just by means of personal hygiene standards. That problem in the developing world is of a vastly higher magnitude than we’ll experience . Therefore our covid risk remains much lower and therefore much closer to the adverse reaction risk. We are at a greater risk of our livelihoods and lives being ruined by our fkwit Govts than getting seriously ill from covid in the long run.


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  19. JC says:

    MatrixTransform says:
    August 19, 2021 at 6:04 pm

    I’m not in a pandemic as I’ve been double vaxed.

    I never took you for the religious type JC.

    LOL…Yea it’s intelligent design . 🙂


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  20. rickw says:

    I’m not in a pandemic

    Neither am I, I have no co morbities and I’m ignoring what the fucking idiots in Vic Gov are saying.


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  21. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Amazing she didn’t blame Donald Trump too.

    New Zealand’s Tyrannical PM Tells Kiwis To ‘Blame Australia’ For COVID Lockdowns (18 Aug)

    Nothing is ever the fault of lefties, they’re the most intelligent inerrant creatures on the planet.


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  22. Boambee John says:

    Bruce of N

    Speaking of which one of the bemusing things of late is the military-industrial complex that Lefties hated like ebola for two generations since the Vietnam protest days seems now to be their bestest of friends. Go figure.

    Ties in with munty now being the resident neo-con interventionist.


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  23. MatrixTransform says:

    Talking to a couple of Aussie plasterers on the site this morning

    eeeyew … I hope you had some sanitiser wipes handy


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  24. Ruprecht says:

    Amazing she didn’t blame Donald Trump too.
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    How weird she has never once blamed China


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  25. JC says:

    You’re the innumerate one numpty. Your conflating worldwide numbers with Australian numbers.

    I’m not “conflating” anything, doofus. ( “conflating” is so 2010).

    In densely populated regions like Africa, India, South America, Asia the contraction numbers will be much higher than here.

    These aren’t regions, you idiot. They’re all continents with India described as a sub-continent. Africa and South America don’t strike me as overly populated. You’re delusional again

    Just by means of personal hygiene standards. That problem in the developing world is of a vastly higher magnitude than we’ll experience .

    Maybe they’ll experience large infection rates and maybe not. However, this doesn’t mean 85% of the world’s population won’t eventually contract the lab virus.

    Therefore our covid risk remains much lower and therefore much closer to the adverse reaction risk. We are at a greater risk of our livelihoods and lives being ruined by our fkwit Govts than getting seriously ill from covid in the long run.

    You’re making even less sense now. Remain silent and try to learn something.

    I’ll repeat, 85% of the world will end up contracting the lab virus and that includes Australia.


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  26. Top Ender says:

    I can’t imagine there’s too many people here interested in blokes in plate armour clouting each other, but here’s a link to a podcast I did recently about my new book Medieval Military Combat:

    http://radioadelaide.org.au/program/service-voices/2021-08-16


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  27. calli says:

    How weird she has never once blamed China

    WHO?


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  28. Dot says:

    *You’re the innumerate one numpty. Your conflating worldwide numbers with Australian numbers. In densely populated regions like Africa, India, South America, Asia the contraction numbers will be much higher than here. Just by means of personal hygiene standards. That problem in the developing world is of a vastly higher magnitude than we’ll experience . Therefore our covid risk remains much lower and therefore much closer to the adverse reaction risk. We are at a greater risk of our livelihoods and lives being ruined by our fkwit Govts than getting seriously ill from covid in the long run.*

    Makka is right about this.

    The jokes about Indians really shitting on the street are not actually jokes.

    Aussie Indians get embarrassed about this stuff. It is mind boggling such a country rich with technology and culture on the other hand has tens of millions of people who like to shit everywhere.

    A woke source to prove it’s true. This isn’t racist cant.

    From 2014. Hopefully things have improved.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27775327

    *India’s government offers cash incentives to subsidise construction of toilets. It has also initiated hygiene and sanitation awareness campaigns, such as the “No Toilet, No Bride” slogan launched in the state of Haryana in 2005, urging brides to reject a groom if he did not have a lavatory at home.*


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  29. Indolent says:

    REBEL NEWS
    Huge protests against vaccine passport system coming to Quebec on 1st September.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaOmqDpQM5o


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  30. Farmer Gez says:

    I can’t imagine there’s too many people here interested in blokes in plate armour.

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    Not so TE.
    As a kid, I used to spend hours in the workshop making armour out of tin and using wire to make chain mail.
    I even knocked up a Ned Kelly set for a school play.


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  31. cohenite says:

    If I visit JC, will he make me wear a Katy Gallagher Sperm Suit?

    I’d assumed that’s what you always wore. And it’ll be appropriate since head prefect wears his Teenage Ninja Mutant Turtle outfit at home. Except on Sundays, the day I always try to visit him, when he’s nude in honour of the Incas.


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  32. Cold-Hands says:

    Double-jabbed people who catch the Indian variant are just as likely to develop symptoms and spread Covid as the unvaccinated, a major study has found.

    The Oxford University research suggests herd immunity is ‘unachievable’ because vaccines do not significantly reduce transmission of the virus.

    Although fully vaccinated people are significantly less likely to be infected, those who do get Covid have a similar peak ‘viral load’ as the unvaccinated.

    This means infected people ‘shed’ the same amount of virus when they cough or sneeze, regardless of whether or not they have been jabbed.

    Experts said the findings strengthened the argument for a ‘booster’ Covid jab programme this autumn.

    However, the study stressed that two doses remain remarkably effective at preventing death and hospitalisation.

    Another argument against vaccination passports.


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  33. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    cohenite:
    Trump is responsible for the rapidity of their development

    According to Dr David Martin and the evidence of the patent office, he’s not. You need to watch both videos.

    https://truthcomestolight.com/dr-david-martin-w-dr-reiner-fuellmich-this-my-friends-is-the-definition-of-criminal-conspiracythis-is-not-a-theory-this-is-evidence/

    rumble.com/viaz9f-dr.-reiner-fuellmich-there-is-no-corona-pandemic-its-a-fraudulent-pcr-test-pandemic-html

    There’s also another vid someone put up here re evidence from an undertaker in the UK of what he saw happening there last year – I’ll add it next.


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  34. H B Bear says:

    Most women would happily marry a man if they knew he wouldn’t pee on the toilet seat.


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  35. calli says:

    I even knocked up a Ned Kelly set for a school play.

    Cool! I played ninjas.

    Never quite perfected the backwards jump up into the brushbox. The opposite was all too easy.


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  36. Roger says:

    Some of the markups inside the NDIS would make a US defence contractor blush.

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    A long time ago the standard practice used to be to mark up government quotes by 25%.

    I imagine it’s at 50% now. Or higher.

    We are governed by idiots.


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  37. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    cohenite,

    https:www.banned.video/watch?id=60f812166b7afe035157f616


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  38. cohenite says:

    According to Dr David Martin and the evidence of the patent office, he’s not. You need to watch both videos.

    Give me a precis BBS. I’m currently in a heated exchange with dot and head prefect and need all my failing intelligence to counter these 2 young dandies.


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  39. calli says:

    Chuckle. Now cohenite’s talking about ninjas.

    And on the toilet seat theory – don’t believe it. It’s a trap!


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  40. m0nty says:

    Hey JC, what’s your prediction on US interest rates? 5% CPI is a bit exy. Surely the Feds will have itchy trigger fingers.


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  41. Dot says:

    *I’d assumed that’s what you always wore.*

    Only when I go out for milk, bread and tendies.


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  42. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    Farmer Gez says:
    August 19, 2021 at 6:38 pm

    FG, would love to see a photo of that get-up!


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  43. JC says:

    cohenite says:
    August 19, 2021 at 6:41 pm

    If I visit JC, will he make me wear a Katy Gallagher Sperm Suit?

    I’d assumed that’s what you always wore. And it’ll be appropriate since head prefect wears his Teenage Ninja Mutant Turtle outfit at home. Except on Sundays, the day I always try to visit him, when he’s nude in honour of the Incas.

    Just so the readership is aware, Cronkite has never visited me and I no intention of ever visiting him.

    He’s just bored doing land transfers.


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  44. Chris says:

    Top Ender:
    I can’t imagine there’s too many people here interested in blokes in plate armour clouting each other, but here’s a link to a podcast I did recently about my new book Medieval Military Combat:

    http://radioadelaide.org.au/program/service-voices/2021-08-16

    Thanks Top Ender, I recently received my copy but have only flicked through it yet; initial impressions are very good.

    I apologise for being so useless as not give you useful feedback, when I offered.
    One reason is that I never saw in your writing any awful locutions, mad typos or anything I could ‘correct’.
    Another is that I ordered stacks of books and got very distracted boning up, about the Mary Rose and its armaments, and the Wars of the Roses, and found lots online to read up so was not working on your proofreading.

    I apologise. I did not do what I said.


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  45. Eyrie says:

    In the US, where the Chicom virus went through the population, the highest rates of people having or having had the virus was a bit under 15%. The Diamond Princess experience was about the same. You got the numbers the wrong way round JC.
    If you think you’ll have milder symptoms because you have had the clot shot there’s bad news for you:

    https://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243292#discuss

    Too bad for you, mate.


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  46. Roger says:

    Cool! I played ninjas.

    Never quite perfected the backwards jump up into the brushbox. The opposite was all too easy.

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    Hah!

    You must be my vintage, calli , or thereabouts.

    I think I was watching repeats though.

    Shintaro rules!


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  47. Farmer Gez says:

    FG, would love to see a photo of that get-up!

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    Not much captured on camera in 1970’s school plays.
    I was told by a teacher that the armour was the star of the show.


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  48. MatrixTransform says:

    Shintaro rules!

    Marine Boy could kick his arse

    easy


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  49. Cold-Hands says:

    The terrorist group that shocked the world in 2001 when it obliterated Afghanistan’s 1,500-year-old Buddhas of Bamiyan, is now poised to inherit Afghanistan’s membership on UNESCO, the UN body charged with protecting world cultural heritage sites, warned UN Watch, an independent non-governmental human rights group based in Geneva.

    The Taliban, a terrorist group that negates the UN’s fundamental principles, also stands to inherit a seat on ECOSOC, a principal UN organ that oversees influential agencies, including two separate UN entities charged with protecting women’s rights.

    “Let me be clear: Putting the Taliban in charge of protecting world heritage and women’s rights would be like making a pyromaniac into the town fire chief,” said Hillel Neuer, executive director of UN Watch.

    I’m guessing that recognition of the Taliban regime will be withdrawn- hopefully soon.


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  50. Makka says:

    Marine Boy could kick his arse

    easy
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    But not TOBOR’s.


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  51. calli says:

    One of the fun things about visiting Tokyo is gadding about in an old Toyota Crown taxi like the ones they used in the modern “Samurai”.


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  52. Roger says:

    Marine Boy could kick his arse

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    Ah…but you see, Marine Boy was a mere cartoon.

    Shintaro was real!


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