Open Thread – Thursday 5 August 2021

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  1. srr says:

    “Boambee John says:
    August 11, 2021 at 8:48 am
    ‘nearly $3 million in federal funds were spent on the University of Pittsburgh’s quest to become a “Tissue Hub” for human fetal tissue ranging from 6 to 42 weeks gestation.’

    Dr Mengele still walks among us.”
    ____________________________________

    Yes, but deep in this age of people putting their faith in “medicine” & “medical experts” to “keep them alive” instead of God to redeem them, it terrifies people to keep that thought in their head.

    Paul Simon – The Afterlife Lyrics HD
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjtjmSI8cWw


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  2. Professor Higgins says:

    When Googlery chimes in cheering his support for you, it is time for a trip to the Hall of Mirrors for a Good Hard Look.


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  3. twostix says:

    Of course screaming about non existant people dropping dead in droves from the kill jab is up there with evil coffee clubbing capri clad boomers ruined my life as a persuasive argument.

    Nobody is trying to convince you notafan. You’ve been a covidian lunatic since you were hysterically calling people ‘conspiracy nuts’ for saying it was in no way going to be ‘just two weeks’ last February.

    You seem to live under the delusion you can pretend you’re not by playing the pretend middle.

    —-
    I guess struth can find his dead bodies with all those millions of hidden dead bodies you said the Chinese were hiding.


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  4. Professor Higgins says:

    Ruprecht at 10:12.
    Where is that from?


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  5. Rabz says:

    Milligan’s employer, the ALPBC, was not sued over the defamatory tweets but is expected to pick up the bill

    Incorrect – taxpayers will pay the bill. For how much longer is that malevolent spoiled incompetent brat going to be indulged at our expense?


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  6. Ruprecht says:

    Was on the news wire just then


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  7. Roger says:

    “‘Rhetorical overdrive’: Turnbull and Rudd warn Coalition not to play politics with China relationship…”

    Rudd and Turnbull playing domestic politics with the China relationship.

    “Former prime ministers argue unnecessary attacks on Beijing could harm Chinese Australians and undermine multicultural society…”

    Rhetorical overdrive indeed.

    The two of them exhibit all the self-awareness of a protozoan.


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  8. rosie says:

    Except I never made any such claims, especially not in February.

    I still don’t have a problem with flatten the curve, as it was in early in 2020.

    Not my fault panicking politicians lied about their covid free Australia agenda


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  9. Ragu says:

    I think some here need to smoke a doobie and calm down a bit.


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  10. twostix says:

    That Hilderbrand clown – arch saint of the ‘moderate’ Tolerance Brigades, now Tolerantly explains that if you don’t immediately get vaccinated you’re subhuman filth who will be dealt with by ‘society’ (aka him and his 1500 mates in the media, governing classes and managerial classes).

    Joe Hildebrand: People who refuse to get vaccinated are no longer decent members of society

    This is perfectly ‘decent’ behaviour from the urban professional classes.

    No Jonestown energy here at all.

    Finishes his rant about the government ruining his life and blaming that on normal people with the following ominous order:

    if you care about your country, if you care about your community and if you care about your family there is only one thing you need to do to prove it.

    So do it. Today.

    This is what they’re like with 20%, imagine when they’re 60%.


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  11. Professor Higgins says:

    Got it Ruprecht.
    SMH.
    So she is sued personally but the ABC picks up the tab?


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  12. struth says:

    https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/israel-reimposes-green-passport-restrictions-amid-pharma-negotiations-for-3rd-shot/

    The jab would free you, ………….you bloody idiots.
    The jab will kill you.
    Within 48 hours, ar 48 months, but odds are now, it will kill you.
    The reason, if you wish to go looking is what the AFLD sais all along.
    To put it simply, it stuffs up your immune system from recognising already experienced viruses.
    Most of the Israelis now in hospital are double jabbed..
    One might be cynical and suggest the socialists ensure Israel goes down first.
    The most hated state amongst the UN/WEF global socialist elite……..

    Because of covidiots and the hysterical, we are about a year behind where we need to be in understanding what is going on.


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  13. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    From the “Australian.”

    “Louise Milligan tweet costs ABC $130K in Laming settlement

    James Madden
    Media Editor
    Sophie Elsworth
    Media Writer
    @sophieelsworth
    2 minutes ago August 11, 2021
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    A defamatory tweet posted by high-profile ABC reporter Louise Milligan — which “irrevocably” damaged the reputation of federal Liberal MP Andrew Laming — will cost the taxpayer more than $130,000 in damages and legal costs.

    The payout consists of $79,000 in court-ordered damages, and an estimated $50,000 in Dr Laming’s legal fees.

    The costs will be covered by the ABC, not Milligan.

    Dr Laming launched defamation proceedings against Milligan in May after he claimed she posted multiple tweets that “irrevocably damaged his personal and professional reputation”.

    Court documents reveal Milligan made a series of tweets on March 28 relating to Dr Laming after 29-year-old Crystal White accused the Queensland politician of taking a photo of her while she was bent over at a Brisbane landscaping business in 2019. The photo showed her underwear beneath her shorts.

    Dr Laming denied taking a photo under a woman’s skirt and claimed it was a “completely dignified” picture of a woman in her workplace “kneeling in an awkward position and filling a fridge with an impossible amount of stock, which clearly wasn’t going to fit in the fridge”.

    Queensland Police cleared him over the allegations within hours of a complaint being lodged.

    One of the since-deleted tweets posted by Milligan read: “Laming upskirts”.

    On Wednesday the matter was resolved in Sydney’s Federal Court with Justice Anna Katzmann ruling in Laming’s favour. Milligan’s legal team agreed to pay Dr Laming damages, and also his legal costs, although the costs will not include the costs of Dr Laming senior counsel appearing in court today.

    Milligan engaged legal firm Bird & Bird to represent her and in early June it is understood she deleted the tweets relating to Dr Laming and also removed from her Twitter bio her own claim that stated “tweets *not* deleted”.”


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  14. Roger says:

    Incorrect – taxpayers will pay the bill.

    —————————-

    Yes, but it will have to come out of the ABC’s annual operating budget, which means there’ll have to be a corresponding cut somewhere.

    As a consequence of this and previous costly errors, Milligan is reportedly none too popular at the workers’ co-operative that is the “national broadcaster”.


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  15. mh says:

    Breaking911
    @Breaking911
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    4h
    SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM: “If you haven’t been vaccinated regarding the COVID problem, you need to get vaccinated. I’ve been vaccinated and I got COVID anyway.”

    https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1425184734553034757?s=20


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  16. calli says:

    Turnbull and Rudd

    Mosley and Quisling at it again?


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  17. srr says:

    “Professor Higgins says:
    August 11, 2021 at 9:05 am
    […]
    Any thoughts on doxxing?
    Some say it’s a dog act and not to do it.
    What about you?”
    _______________________

    Yep it’s a low act, especially when public figures dox private people amongst their inner circle in order to do them real world harm while lying that their hands are clean.
    This is why so many people end up being herded to sewers like Twitter, somehow thinking they’re safer as a little zebra in a big herd, rather than being targeted by people in their real world fields.

    Funny though how people will keep that reality of Net Life out their mind in order to keep enjoying ‘Social’ Media, especially when you consider just how harsh the reality is, e.g. –

    Fair Cop: Resisting the Woke Police
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUCQ66TcLi0
    Aug 11, 2021
    The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters


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  18. Roger says:

    Joe Hildebrand: People who refuse to get vaccinated are no longer decent members of society…

    ————————

    Didn’t Hildebrand become a Catholic not that long ago?

    I seem to recall him writing about it.

    He might want to check his church’s ethical teachings in regard both to compulsory vaccination and tolerance of those with whom we disagree on civil matters.

    If you’re going to espouse a religion, you have a duty to inform yourself of its teachings and submit to them.


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  19. Top Ender says:

    Might interest some Cats. I’d comment though that Wernher von Braun was hardly “shanghaied” by the US. In his own autobiography he recounts how he and many others made the choice of seeking out invading Americans as being the best chance for pursuing both rocketry and survival.

    Epic siege that helped remake the world as we know it
    BOOKSHELF
    EDWARD KOSNER

    The occupation of ravaged Berlin by the triumphant Americans, British and Russians in the summer of 1945 inscribed a coda to World War II in Europe, but it was also the first skirmish in the Cold War that in many respects is still going on.

    For most adult Americans, post-war Berlin is a flickery newsreel of the 1948 Allied airlift, the construction of the wall sealing off the Russian sector in 1961, and its joyous destruction 28 years later as the Soviet empire began to implode. Those fading memories are faint reflections of the dramatic struggle for Berlin, especially in those first years.

    At Yalta in February 1945, Winston Churchill, a dying Franklin Roosevelt and the cagey Joseph Stalin carved up Germany, with the Russians taking the eastern half and the Allies dividing up the west. Berlin – isolated in the Soviet zone 155km from Germany’s internal border – was itself divided in similar fashion.

    Two rail lines and two autobahns controlled by the Russians afforded the only access to the city from the West. The British and American zones each had an airport – seemingly peripheral at the start, they would each play central roles in the epic siege of Berlin that was to shape the enduring conflict to come.

    Soon a courageous band of American and British military officers would be jousting daily with their obdurate Soviet counterparts over the fate of 2.4 million cold and half-starved West Berliners, while far away in Washington, London and Moscow their superiors schemed for advantage in the fog of a new kind of war over the future of Europe itself.

    British writer Giles Milton brings this epic story to exhilarating life in Checkmate in Berlin, his meticulously researched and crisply written account of those pivotal early years in divided Berlin. His book is popular narrative history at its best, evoking the savage rapacity of the Soviet conquerors and unspeakable suffering of the captive Berliners, the plucky resilience of an all-but-forgotten hero of the American occupation forces, and the brilliant execution of the Allied airlift that broke the Russian blockade of Berlin.

    Milton, the author of 11 other books, is deeply unsympathetic to the Soviets, despite their monumental losses to the Nazis in the war. Inflamed by vodka, the rampaging Russian troops, he writes, raped countless German women and girls – including nurses, all of them nuns – at a Berlin hospital.

    Under orders, they plundered factories, offices and homes. They took machinery, equipment, furniture and housewares, even wall sockets and door knobs, for shipment back home.

    In what the author calls “the greatest looting spree in history”, more than 15,000 crates of art treasures – Greek statuary and vases, priceless gems, works by Caravaggio, Donatello, Goya, Rubens, Tintoretto, Van Dyke and more – were sent to Moscow. Thousands of German scientists (and their families) were abducted to labour in Russian labs.

    The Allied troops were better behaved. They cursed and cuffed Berliners but rarely killed them, although the Americans shanghaied 1600 German scientists of their own, including Nazi collaborators such as Wernher von Braun.

    Armed with cigarettes, chocolate and nylons, American GIs and Brits “fratted” with the frauleins rather than raping them, their dalliances more consensual, if mercenary.

    But all that was a sideshow to the main event: Stalin’s relentless efforts to drive the Allies out of Berlin, a key to his larger strategy to dominate Europe. For years US colonel Frank “Howlin’ Mad” Howley and general Lucius Clay absorbed the tirades from Soviet generals.

    Stalin made the diplomatic wrangling moot 18 months later when the Soviets abruptly sealed off the roads and railways linking Berlin to the West and cut off sources of food, clean water, electricity, coal and medicine from the East.

    The blockade meant starvation for the citizens of West Berlin and was designed to force the Allies to abandon the capital. “There we were, in a landlocked city,” Howley wrote later, “trapped in the Bear’s paws.”

    So began one of the most heroic episodes in the annals of the US military and an exercise of excruciating complexity pulled off with stunning competence – the Berlin Airlift, a turning point in the Cold War. Victory in Berlin led to the formation of NATO, the founding of the West German federal republic – with Konrad Adenauer as its first chancellor – and eventually the unification of a Germany firmly allied with the Western democracies against Russian expansionism: the world as we know it today.

    THE WALL STREET JOURNAL


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  20. Professor Higgins says:

    Roger at 10:23.
    It might be a good idea for Trumble and Kevni to maintain social distancing from the phrase “rhetorical overdrive”.


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  21. Professor Higgins says:

    calli says:

    August 11, 2021 at 10:32 am

    Turnbull and Rudd

    Mosley and Quisling at it again?

    When this bromance implodes – and it will – we will all need nuclear flash sunglasses.


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  22. Jorge says:

    Taylor Walker’s apology not good enough.

    Lots of news clips showing a contrite big white guy with a beaten dog look on his face seated at a lower level near the foot of the little black guy and reaching up to shake hands.

    The whole thing has to be acted out in front of the cameras. White blokes need to learn they are scum.

    Name-calling and insults are a big part of Australian sport. We don’t play like pommy gentlemen. We exploit vulnerabilities, mock, intimidate and bully because that’s how you get into your opponent’s head and break his resistance.

    When you feel like you can’t do that you end up like Collingwood today. Easybeats.


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  23. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Prof H at 8.22:

    ‘I trust you slept well, lovely lady.’

    Come dance with me!


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  24. If that’s Joe Hildebrand’s definition of a decent Australian, I’m happy to be an indecent one.


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  25. Boambee John says:

    Compare the pair.

    Grigory M says:
    August 11, 2021 at 9:19 am
    Escalate – always escalate.

    Memory Fault – that is who he was at the time – should release all of the emails – today.

    Elizabeth (Libby) Zee says:
    August 11, 2021 at 9:58 am
    Cassie was given her chance to veto it and didn’t.
    So I will be posting them all tomorrow morning.
    I’m too beat now to do anything.

    So, in response Cassie has done a selective release of emails trying to distance herself and Lizzie from the nastiness. A bit “holier than thou” for mine from someone who appears to have been in the thick of it.

    Rocinante should post all of the emails asap so who did what to whom is clear to everyone.

    Which is the sock puppet, and which is the hand?


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  26. Roger says:

    When this bromance implodes – and it will – we will all need nuclear flash sunglasses.

    ———————–

    In any battle of the egos between these two, my money would be on Malcolm.


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  27. Am I alone in thinking Struth’s efforts to win over Rosie shall not bear fruit?


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  28. srr says:

    “rosie says:
    August 11, 2021 at 10:26 am
    Nilligan [Louise Milligan] is protected

    https://mobile.twitter.com/evmulholland/status/1425250498584535040 ”
    _________________________________

    BY Whom & Why, is the question that needs answering.


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  29. calli says:

    Joe Hildebrand: People who refuse to get vaccinated are no longer decent members of society…

    The inner tyrant rears its hydra head.

    Didn’t another celebrity non entity once call for climate “deniers” to be branded on the forehead?

    Everything old is new again.


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  30. Boambee John says:

    Ruprecht says:
    August 11, 2021 at 10:12 am
    Seriously ?

    “ Louise Milligan agrees to pay Andrew Laming $79,000 in damages over tweets
    Milligan’s employer, the ABC, was not sued over the defamatory tweets but is expected to pick up the bill.”

    The “Stars” of Their ABC never have to pay for their errors. Such things are for the little people who suffer from paying for those errors.


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  31. struth says:

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-strict-new-travel-laws-in-australia-mean-people-will-need-permission-to-leave-the-country-12378139

    Let us not speak ever of “scared politicians” FFS.
    We are being held prisoner, all 26 million by criminal tyrants.


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  32. Mother Lode says:

    Joe Hildebrand: People who refuse to get vaccinated are no longer decent members of society

    It would be a brave stance but for two things:

    1) He is saying something the establishment will approve of, and
    2) He is not ever going to have to defend that opinion in front of people who disagree. He could as easily say 1+1=3.

    The media companies have invested in their talking heads and wish top protect their investment. Moderators on their feedback platforms.

    It is like the way Squalid Ali was being presented on Das Projekt as an intellectual.


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  33. Ruprecht says:

    That’s funny Nelson. Maybe some late night music videos may help ?


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  34. mh says:

    Security points the way for Biden, but he still walks the wrong way

    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1425135620557623298?s=20


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  35. William the Conjuror says:

    Am I alone in thinking Struth’s efforts to win over Rosie shall not bear fruit?

    Every good boy deserves fruit.


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  36. struth says:

    Joe Hildebrand: People who refuse to get vaccinated are no longer decent members of society…

    ……………………………………..
    Now say it with a German accent , Joe.

    Where did he make this comment?
    Are there any replies allowed?


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  37. twostix says:

    Joe Hildebrand: People who refuse to get vaccinated are no longer decent members of society…

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    Didn’t Hildebrand become a Catholic not that long ago?

    I seem to recall him writing about it.

    He might want to check his church’s ethical teachings in regard both to compulsory vaccination and tolerance of those with whom we disagree on civil matters.

    Hildebrand might want to find out what “decent society” and the media in Australia were saying about catholics general refusal to sign up to fight in WW1 and their campaign against being forced to do that (which they righteously won).

    What a massive scumbag.


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  38. srr says:

    London’s Trans Rights Protest

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRixabJ1M54

    Aug 11, 2021
    The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters


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  39. calli says:

    Maybe he meant descent society.

    It’s a big, wide highway.


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  40. Roger says:

    Where did he make this comment?
    Are there any replies allowed?

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    Here you go, struth:

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/joe-hildebrand-people-who-refuse-to-get-vaccinated-are-no-longer-decent-members-of-society/news-story/9843d048ab2e740a95b0eafefc96e154

    Have at it if you can get in.


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  41. Top Ender says:

    I see my copy and paste left off the book title above – apologies. Details are: Checkmate in Berlin: the Cold War showdown that helped shape the Modern World.
    By Giles Milton. Published by John Murray Books, 400pp, $27


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  42. caveman says:

    Zombie holocaust World War Z V , bring out your unvaxxed.


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  43. mh says:

    Joe Hildebrand used to get targeted online by ‘white supremacists’, due to his Jewish looks. It became a joke that he went along with. But it’s Joe being the nazi now.


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  44. struth says:

    Am I alone in thinking Struth’s efforts to win over Rosie shall not bear fruit?

    Win her over?

    Just trying to make the hysterical loser stop trying to excuse the death jab, and tell everyone it’s fine.
    I don’t know about the rest of you silent sams on this issue, but with all the mounting evidence that this is a death jab…and it’s overwhelming…. eventually, besides the fact it doesn’t work and won’t free you, why am I, and only a few others, the only ones confronting notafan’s bullshit?
    This is dire, and people will die.
    And thousands already have.
    Why are there only a few of us that realise notafan, who I don’t need to remind anyone here, has been exactly wrong about everything so far, in seeking to console herself, is pushing the line the vaccines are fine, and that’s dangerous and could cost lives.
    I guarantee you when you all start dropping off like the Israelis it won’t be me you’ll blame.
    I’ll go to bed with a clear conscience.


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  45. a reader says:

    When their statements don’t even make sense. Kerry CHant edition:
    NSW CHO Dr Kerry Chant has announced that young people are increasingly ending up in ICU.

    She said the 62 cases in ICU revealed a “young profile”, including three in their 20s, seven in their 30s, six in their 40s, 14 in their 50s, 13 in their 60s, 16 in their 70s and three in their 80s.


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  46. H B Bear says:

    Will Nilligan go for best of 5 now? Her track record is starting to look like Fat Clives but without the big win over the Chinks (unless you count having Ita and the taxpayers of Australia in your back pocket).