Open Thread – Tuesday 17 August 2021

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  1. Dot says:

    448 deaths from vaccines.

     

    Okay I think we’re done here, Gladys.


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  2. Professor Higgins says:

    Good afternoon Thor.

    Where yo bin dude?


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  3. Fat Tony says:

    Dot says:
    September 6, 2021 at 5:45 pm

    448 deaths from vaccines.

    0000000000000000000000000000000

    And it’s just starting – explains the indecent haste of the governments for all, young & old, to get jabbed.


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  4. srr says:

    calli says:
    September 6, 2021 at 11:26 am

    Looks like I have to sit in the naughty corner for telling the truth.

    Just for once, look at that rant, srr.  Re-read it, step back and ask yourself…is it true?  Or is it just what I think?

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    calli, when someone opens with mockery & insult and doesn’t bother to quote or post a time stamp of what they’re mocking – https://catallaxy-files.com/open-thread-tuesday-17-august-2021/comment-page-77/#comment-51159 , it’s better than fair to expect that person isn’t arguing in good faith, but rather is setting out to brand themselves ‘the goodie’ (something you did well from the moment you arrived) & those they’re playing against, ‘the baddie’, before finishing with, ‘Who ya gonna believe, me, the goodie or them, the baddie?’

    You should also note that Knuckle Dragger also admitted to Sinc’s not helping a tidy take over of the cat, and then we could go back to all the panicked pleas for getting a new cat going at the time, which as KD rightly pointed out, Sinc shouldn’t have even been expected to help with. So it’s OK when someone else tells the truth of what Sinc did & didn’t do, but not when I do.

    Isn’t it funny though, how NONE of the online marketing ‘tools’ everyone knows about, ever apply to a blog full of anonymous posters who consistently fight nothing as hard as they do protecting the sanctity of an ABC regular and flat out denying even a slight possibility that any of them could be posting with an undisclosed agenda to push.

    I am one person. NOTHING I post should come close to upsetting genuine people of good will, yet by simply pointing out how forums are set up & used to manipulate public opinion, even the nice people get into such a state of rage that they would rather be seen supporting those who think it’s funny to laugh at the very real, Child Sex Slave Trade that Joe Biden has given a massive boost to, than even entertain the likelihood that there are those amongst them, paid to push opinions.

    Yes callie, you have always been so sweet & nice even to the most vile of characters, always finding something nice to say or silence to cover them with, so that when you do strike, everyone jumps to your side, even when they didn’t know there where sides to be taken. While when I post anything that questions the consensus, it’s not the subject that’s attacked, but the messenger that’s shot, again, with same old schoolgirl bully bullshit. Again, a very effective tool in manipulating public opinion because no one wants to admit they are being manipulated by schoolgirl bullies.

    As with the weather, medicine & science, a consensus is not proof of truth, especially when the consensus pays & being an outlier costs.


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  5. slackster says:

    Any site that requires registration will always go to shit because people will begin to care about their website reputation rather than reality.


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  6. Eyrie says:

    I just spent two minutes reading the Australian on line. Read two stories from the headlines which took all of two minutes. Adam Creighton appears to have lost it completely.

    Glad I’m not paying for it.


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  7. calli says:

    Bless you srr.  I hope you have a long and fruitful life.

    Please don’t address me again either here or on any other site and I will repay the courtesy.

     


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  8. Professor Higgins says:

    Dot.

    On the 448 deaths, is that what it says?

    My understanding is that they are recording a stat on people who die within 14? days of a vax.

    A very simple stat without atrributing cause.

    There are about 170,000 deaths per annum in Australia (3,300 per week).

    With a heavy vax program in progress, what odds a number will die within two weeks of a jab?

    I honestly don’t know the answer to that, but it requires more detailed analysis.

    Just as we railed against the “died with Covid” vs “Died from Covid” stats, we should equally hold these stats up to the light and examine them dispassionately.

    For example, if someone walked out of a vax centre and was hit by a bus, is that a vax death?

     

     

     

     

     

     


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  9. Baba says:

    Dot says:
    September 6, 2021 at 5:45 pm

    448 deaths from vaccines.

    ********

    Do you have a link, Dotster?


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  10. Barking Toad says:

    Eloquent and courteous as ever Calli.

    Don’t bother sparring


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  11. TailgunneR says:

    “Elections are meaningless now.”

    This.

    And courts.

    They’re all traitors.

    No mercy

     


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  12. Axl Rosé says:

    Do you have a link, Dotster?

    It is in his post directly above.


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  13. srr says:

    calli says:
    September 6, 2021 at 11:34 am

    I didn’t “lash out” at you, srr.

    I disagreed with you and told you why.  Seriously – you seem very fragile.

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    Yes, you very nicely joined in to tell me that I couldn’t notice & say what Knuckle Dragger noticed & said.

    You very nicely told me to question myself, and now you want to nail “fragile” to the rest of the BS nailed to my name.

    In the “always so nice, callie scale”, your need to have me ‘correct my thinking’, rates way above streams of cow plop that others pour out liberally.

    But surely you must know that “fragile” jibe was overkill, because no fragile person could, let alone would, bother to keep posting other perspectives amongst those who profess to support centre-right, classical liberal & libertarian ideals yet piles on those who dare step a toe outside an actually very limited consensus.

     


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  14. Delta A says:

    Great job, Adam.

    Much appreciated.

     

     


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  15. TailgunneR says:

    “Just as we railed against the “died with Covid” vs “Died from Covid” stats, we should equally hold these stats up to the light and examine them dispassionately”

    Lol, strayan collaborators.

    It’s WAR, against you.

    You just are a slow learner, Prof.

    Stick with “voting the bastards out”

    The resistance needs warriors, not Tim Pools.

    Get fake vaxxed, it’s your best option. If you’d rather not fight.

    Fake facts v truth? How’s that been going for the last year&a half?

    Working is it?

     


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  16. Baba says:

    Thanks Axl. Thanks Dot.


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  17. TailgunneR says:

    Q said Israel is first.

    Maybe he was right.

    The vaxx is the weapon.


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  18. TailgunneR says:

    There’s no Fate but what you make.

    H/t Sarah Connor


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  19. rosie says:

    No courtesy, obviously.


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  20. TailgunneR says:

    Thor, stop arguing online and put your brain to a resistance secret weapon, pronto.

    Something that will surprise the Cabal forces.

    We’re gonna need it shortly.

     


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  21. TailgunneR says:

    Something like Havana Syndrome will do nicely.

    Weaponized microwaves?

    Then we can pick up the AR-15s from the dropped Stasi.

    Too easy.


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  22. TailgunneR says:

    Are Vaxx hubs legimate targets yet?

     


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  23. Zyconoclast says:

    Testing 1,2


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  24. Rex Anger says:

    Is it weaponised physics when we find Graeme’s prognostications to hilariously crazy, that we semi-involuntarily contract and relax our thoraces, forcing sharply-truncated bursts of air pressure up through our larynxes and expelled though our mouths and noses? Wasting a considerable amount of chemical and kinetic energy as heat, pressure and gutteral sounds? The same sounds as we might produce when somebody makes a bad pun, farts, slips on a banana-skin or bounces their head off a doorframe they didn’t see in time?

     

    Graeme does, if his performance art last night is anything to go by…

     

    [Hi Graeme! Not dead yet! Please try to psychically throttle me harder this time. Last night’s efforts got lost in the solar winds and residual mass excitement of the footy semi-final-game-thingy they were playing in Town yesterday. A barely felt a tickle…]


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  25. TailgunneR says:

    Hehe, lone Wolf lyfe.

    Trust no one.

    Resist


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  26. TailgunneR says:

    Everyone loves GB.

    He’s potentially our own Elon Musk.

    The resistance needs visionaries.

    Say what you like, I’ll have him in my foxhole.

    I’ll make him point&shoot.

    No surrender


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  27. Ruprecht Ruprecht says:

    Grace Tame: we need our stories told, we will not be silenced!

    Grace Tam: how dare ScoMo read out an account by a sexual assault victim !


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  28. mem says:

    This used to be an exceptional site. Unfortunately it has been destroyed. Whether for political reasons or malice, the outcome is the same for me. May the perpetrators rest in hell. RIP Catallaxy. Thankyou to all those that contributed to serious debate, the wonderful lateral thinking and for the belly laughs. I learned and enjoyed so much. mem


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  29. Rex Anger says:

    I am the personification of all evil, Graeme

    Sounds like fun… 🤔

     

    Go forth, my Nano-Wrigglers! Eat the brains of the non-believer!

     

    WRIGGLE!!!1! BWA-HA-HA-HAR!11!!!! 🤪🤪🤪

     

    ***Maniacal laughter intensifies***


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  30. Rex Anger says:

    @ mem-

     

    <a href=”https://newcatallaxy.blog/”>New Catallaxy</a> is your friend, if you had not seen to it already…


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  31. srr says:

    Fat Tony says:
    September 6, 2021 at 11:54 am

    srr – there would be one person on these Cat pages (& the other Cat pages too) that DOESN’T lash out and that is Calli.

    I have yet to see any nastiness, vindictiveness, anger or bile in any of her posts.

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    I didn’t say there was any “nastiness, vindictiveness, anger or bile” in her posts, which is what makes even her lightest intersessions a ‘super power’ that signals to all, an ‘unacceptable one’.

    Again, keep in mind that Knuckle Dragger made the same observation of Sinc not helping with the birth of a new cat, the difference being that he declared it Sinc’s right that I had no right to question, while callie tried to tell me that what he, I & everyone saw happening, didn’t happen.

    The reverence shown towards Sinclair Davidson while he ran the old cat, frankly, I find more than a little worrying when I see such outpourings directed to any mere mortal, but to see it only grow towards Davidson now that he’s moved onto bigger & better things (such as Blockchain that’s a key tool in giving Govts even more strict control of people), well, I find that very worrying.

    Keep in mind also that the lazy, stock attacks of, “conspiracy nut”, against me, come from the same people who mocked me for warning of these things that have come to be and not only warning of it, but explaining how public forums are used to manipulate public opinion to the degree that we already have people wishing the refusal of health care & even death to people who refuse Govt mandated drug experimentation, while also thinking it jolly good fun to joke about the Child Sex Slave Trade that Joe Biden has further opened up.


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  32. egg_ says:

    From: “UAP”

    “Australian Government’s COVID-19 vaccines Adverse Events Report. click link Uaptga.info

    Authorised by Craig Kelly.”


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  33. hzhousewife says:

    mem, I hope to goodness you are aware that an alternative exists :

    https://newcatallaxy.blog/

    recent very good contributions by Rafe and Arky, and links to worthwhile material like the recent Neil Oliver post to youtube.

    Please have a look at it and join in if you wish

     


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  34. Old School Conservative says:

    Another anthropomorphism. (yes I looked it up!)

    “Covid-19 claims Melbourne’s observation wheel.”

    Amongst a story of the Melbourne Star observation wheel closing down permanently after 6 lockdowns and the loss of a year’s income, and going into liquidation, there is not one mention of who brought in the lockdown rules.

    Yes the virus caused the closure, not the people in politics.

    Bastards.


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  35. Steve trickler says:

    The camp fire is good here.


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  36. Axl Rosé says:

    Anthropomorphism relates to animals.  Not sure Covid-19 ‘virus’ qualifies as such.  It is more of an Idea.


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  37. Rex Anger says:

    srr at 7.30pm having a very serious bout of Relevance Deprivation Syndrome, I see…


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  38. Timothy Neilson says:

    Thor Rium says:
    September 6, 2021 at 8:12 pm

    Oh no.
    Not Sore Rectum again with his evidence-free “facts”.


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  39. Dot says:

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    Professor Higgins says:
    September 6, 2021 at 6:22 pm

    Dot.

    On the 448 deaths, is that what it says?

    My understanding is that they are recording a stat on people who die within 14? days of a vax.

    A very simple stat without atrributing cause.

    There are about 170,000 deaths per annum in Australia (3,300 per week).

    With a heavy vax program in progress, what odds a number will die within two weeks of a jab?

    I honestly don’t know the answer to that, but it requires more detailed analysis.

    Just as we railed against the “died with Covid” vs “Died from Covid” stats, we should equally hold these stats up to the light and examine them dispassionately.

    For example, if someone walked out of a vax centre and was hit by a bus, is that a vax death?*

    Good luck getting heavily politicised public servants and the media to tell the truth at all about this.

    Anti vaxxers and the pro vaxx zealots are both going to lie.

    If you want to pedantic, yes, UP TO ~  450+ deaths from vaccines, but likely, far less; but NOT zero.

    UNLESS – the pro vaccination fanatics have to admit it doesn’t affect healthy young uns and they’re dosing up oldies who are dying anyway, which is dumb (on top of useless).


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  40. Rex Anger says:

    Graeme still hasn’t learned what filibuster means.

     

    Nor that saying that ‘Physics Ain’t Rell Cuz I Sed So! (Once all the pseudoscientific gobbledygook, circular logic and handwaving is stripped away),’ doesn’t cut the mustard.

     

    Why is why he screams and calls me names.

     

    The madness regarding perfidious Js and 9/11 is all entirely his to own, though.


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  41. Axl Rosé says:

    He’s potentially our own Elon Musk.

    The resistance needs visionaries.

    Say what you like, I’ll have him in my foxhole.

     

    Agreed; except for the foxhole part.


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  42. TailgunneR says:

    He won’t snack on me,Axl…

    He’ll be too busy finding targets!

    😃

    Besides, he’s not really dangerous. Only his thoughts.

    Free speech, I like that.

    Free thought is the basis of the resistance.

    He’s our Oskar Dirlrewanger.

    Didn’t I tell you it’ll get messy?😈😈

    Only resistance matters now. We’re small. No resistance enemies.

    And we’ll need secret weapons.

    Think BIG, people.

    Stop fighting among ourselves.

    We can sort that shit out later.

    Only resistance matters now.

    My own Dirlewanger Brigade will be disowned by the squeamish?

    Fkn lame.

    Did you the no it’s be bloodless?

    Lol. Grow up, faggots

     


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  43. TailgunneR says:

    Anyone paying attention knows what comes next.

    Victory or 1984.

    Choose wisely.

    No mercyI want resistance Stukas, and I want them yesterday.

    Sheep respond to terror don’t they?

     


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  44. srr says:

    rosie says:
    September 6, 2021 at 6:42 pm

    No courtesy, obviously.

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    There’s only one of me, with a real life to live between catching up with personal attacks against me for sharing “wrongthink”.

    Now when I told you and anyone else they can ignore me, you worked people up into believing that was some sort of evil plot.

    Different when anyone else does it. Good to see you at least being consistent in your hypocrisy.

    Still, it’s normal that people don’t notice this sort of directed negative bias unless it’s being directed against them because as much as we consciously understand consensus doesn’t equal fact, we’ve had the idea that, majority rule is good, subconsciously planted in our minds and our subconscious beliefs are much harder to resist.


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  45. TailgunneR says:

    Rex, I know it goes against your grain, but it’s time to start sabotaging the train lines.

    It’s not Trucks v Trains.

    It’s patriots v traitors.

    Blow it up!


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  46. TailgunneR says:

    And Thor, stop attacking the patriots.

    It’s not helpful.

    Think positive.

    Think resistance.

    Else Skynet wins


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  47. TailgunneR says:

    If you’re reading this post, you ARE the resistance.

    We fight on.

    No surrender!


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  48. Rex Anger says:

    So I’m a racist because I disagree with Graeme’s madness?

     

    Hmmm…. Remind you of anyone running round in the streets and beating up on and wrecking the houses and shops of their Class Enemies of late?  🤔


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  49. Timothy Neilson says:

    “Okay so lets go again Rex if you want to keep your filibuster going.  If energy cannot be created or destroyed, then how much energy is there?  Answer zero right?”

    Wrong. The correct answer is “as much as there actually is”.

    “If matter can never be created nor destroyed how much matter is there?  Again zero”

    Wrong. The correct answer is “as much as there actually is”.

    “But in fact there is energy and matter so these laws are wrong and cannot be right.”

    Wrong. Even if it were to be assumed that matter and energy can’t be created under the laws of physics applicable to the current universe, the laws don’t apply to the situation which causatively preceded the current universe, and from which the current universe was created.

    We’ve been through this before when you were in one of your previous guises. What really can’t be created, as proven by constant experiment, is any glimmer of understanding on your part.


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