Open Thread – Tuesday 17 August 2021

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  1. Armadillo says:

    No hair yet, but these things take time.

    #snifferincheif


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  2. JC says:

    Gab

     

    Vicpol is a disgusting organisation tied at the hip to the Liars Party. Anyone who’s a member is a despicable douchebag.


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  3. Armadillo says:

    I sort of feel like I should “report” or “flag” my own comment for moderation.

    But I won’t.

    Joe is a disgusting incompetent arse clown that is about to leave a heap of people to a gruesome death in Kabul. He doesn’t give a fuck.

    Words on a blog post pale in comparison. Gaol is better than hell.


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  4. Armadillo says:

    Vicpol is a disgusting organisation tied at the hip to the Liars Party. Anyone who’s a member is a despicable douchebag.

    _______________________________________________________

    Brown Shirts. The Federal Government needs to cut off all funding to these arsehats immediately. It’s now a national emergency. These people are insane.

    JC isn’t getting out of that shithole, jabbed or not.

    #freejc


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  5. Mark A says:

    Armadillo says:
    August 22, 2021 at 1:22 am

    I think you are right as far as travel is concerned.
    I would seriously revise my overseas holiday travel plans if I were still in OZ.
    As to JC I can’t see why he cannot leave?

    I’m sure one of these would apply to him?

    I received this from the department recently, Why I don’t know as I left nearly a year ago.

    “On 1 August 2021 the Minister for Health and Aged Care amended the Biosecurity (Human Biosecurity Emergency) (Human Coronavirus with Pandemic Potential) (Overseas Travel Ban Emergency Requirements) Determination 2020 for this exempt category, and the changes come into effect from 11 August 2021.What do these changes mean for you?

    On 06-10-2020 23:16:33 AEDT we notified you of an exemption from the current travel restrictions to depart Australia as a person ‘ordinarily resident outside Australia’. Prior to the 11 August, these decisions were made under an automatic exemption category and did not have an expiry date.

    However, as a result of the recent change to the Biosecurity Determination 2020, assessments to depart Australia as a person who is ‘ordinarily resident outside Australia’ are now made on a discretionary basis. The exemption decision is valid for a single use only, to depart Australia.

    If you have not yet departed Australia since your exemption decision, you do not need to resubmit a new travel exemption request. Your exemption will remain valid until after it is used to depart Australia.

    For any future travel, you will be required to lodge an individual exemption request each time you intend to travel through the Travel Exemption Portal, with supporting evidence demonstrating you ordinarily reside in a country other than Australia. Supporting evidence may include:

    <strong>Foreign government issued documentation, for example
    foreign drivers licence
    foreign government issued residency card
    Evidence you have an established and settled home overseas, for example
    tenancy/residential agreement
    utility bills, rate notices
    Evidence you are employed or have ongoing business interests overseas
    letter from your employer/employment contract in a foreign country
    business tenancy agreement</strong>

    For further information on Australia’s travel restrictions, and the types of evidence needed to support your exemption request for this exemption category, refer to our website: https://covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au/leaving-australia.

    Kind regards

    Travel Exemption Requests”


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  6. Armadillo says:

    Oh shit. I think I just stumbled into “Bible Cat” at the “Posh Cat”.

    The fuckers are quoting scripture at me. Probably trying to “save my soul” or something. Fat chance of that. I’m a bookmaker.

    Think I’ll have a beer and assess my options.

     


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  7. Armadillo says:

    Thanks Warm Heart.


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  8. Mater says:

    Ahhh…so that cowardly fuck, Mick Gold Coat QLD eventually wants to have a jab.

    Don’t worry Mick, I remember your sneering at people who were suffering that which you were not last year. You’ll note (but you didn’t) that I followed up with an explanation, and a complete link to the weapon in question, and the rounds used.

    Here:

    https://newcatallaxy.blog/2021/08/21/open-thread-weekend-23-aug-2022/comment-page-2/#comment-2363

    Every news outlet was reporting that the police were firing rubbers bullets at the protesters, and the vision they showed indicted an M4/AR-15 variant being used (which it was). Does it matter what these none lethal rounds are made of, rubber or plastic?

    They are a kinetic round, being projected through a rifled barrel, directly at a human being, and all are designed to inflect excruciating pain…the pepper dust is just the cherry on top. A modern version of rubber bullets, designed with the same intent. All will take your eye out in a heartbeat. Hit someone in the head, and let’s see. They are designed to be effective out to 150m, and were being using at ranges that appeared to be well under 10m.

    Notwithstanding, you are completely missing the actual point, be they actual rubber bullets or a modern plastic equivalent. For the first time, police have opened up with firearms at Australian protesters, protesters seeking nothing more than to not be confined to their homes indefinitely. You don’t think that’s a problem? You don’t think that’s an escalation that might get out of hand?

    Not one of the Policemen there today has lost a single cent during this event. In fact, they are rolling in overtime. They are free to go to work, and their kids are in the privileged group who can go to daycare and school, as opposed to developing social impairments and psychological conditions at home. They have never had it so good, either financially or authority. Literally, the haves (including the firearms) suppressing the have nots. I guess their new found privileged position in society shouldn’t be challenged. Any of those police their yesterday that weren’t thinking twice about what they were doing, shouldn’t be wearing the uniform.

    Don’t stress, champ, I haven’t forgotten your cowardly stance towards the lockdowns, nor your sneering at a women who lost a child after the NSW/QLD border issues. Your denigration of those locked up in Victoria will live on in infamy, now that Sydneysiders have had a taste. I’m sure many of them will view you comment below (one of many) with a different tint:

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    “Mick Gold Coast QLD
    #3572539, posted on September 4, 2020 at 9:19 pm
    That is some of the best material I have read here in months HT, but it sets out eight points which is six too many for the omniscient local reader. They have neither the time nor the patience to absorb so much and, anyway, they know more than anyone about just everything.
    You are attempting to coach an audience which knows little about rigour and discipline. Sweet cheeses, they are obsessed about their need to broadcast their inability to cope with being confined in their home suburb for a lousy six months, without comforting from their personal life coach!”
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    Quite a number initially supported the lockdowns, you being one of the more vocal. Most of them have awoken to the true potential of such dangerous laws, and where this is headed. You, however, appear to not be one for turning. You remain your same arrogant, cowardly, sneering self.

    In short, get fucked. You’re not part of the solution, and you’re sure as shit part of the problem.

     

     

     


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  9. rocinante says:

    Test Sunday


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  10. calli says:

    Thanks for the information on the “bullets” Mater.

    Yep.  They’re bullets, projectiles, rounds, whatever you want to call them.  And they were used against Australians who protested their house arrest.  That it was done in Melbourne is no surprise – one look at your police chief’s uniform leaves no doubt that “policing by consent” left Vic long ago.  All that’s missing are SS flashes on the epaulettes.

    Arma, it’s FlashCat.  It can’t possibly be PoshCat, because you and I comment there.  😄

    And, since I’m up early and Tom is elsewhere, here’s Week in Pictures

     

     


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  11. jo says:

    Be fair Calli. Hugo Boss made much better fitting uniforms and the fabric  denier much lower than tent material.


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  12. rickw says:

    <em>

    I love Uncle Roger too.

    Sad to hear that he is buckling under to the Chicoms – although his motives were probably pragmatic rather than ideological. I doubt that he is a fan of any regime. </em>

    I didn’t know about this, so now I think it’s fuck Uncle Roger.  Aunty Helen was right after all!


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  13. rickw says:

    <em> Every news outlet was reporting that the police were firing rubbers bullets at the protesters, and the vision they showed indicted an M4/AR-15 variant being used (which it was). Does it matter what these none lethal rounds are made of, rubber or plastic? </em>

    This is from the fucks who support banning or regulating all sorts of low energy projectile launchers for “da safety”.

    Did the Tyrannical Mongs even read the instructions on the box?

    Make no mistake, Vicpol are itching for the slightest excuse to shoot people.


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  14. Cassie of Sydney says:

    For the first time in my life I can’t bring myself to even look at the front pages of the Oz and the Daily Telegraph….because I feel this very unhealthy combination of enormous rage and sickness.  It’s akin to reading Pravda and Izvestia in 1979..in fact I reckon those media outlets would have hosted better journalists.  Last night I was devising various punishments I’d like to see dispensed to politicians, public servants and MSM…..and I’d reserve the most ghastly for the MSM scum…..I’d like to watch journalists, one by one, being thrown into a pit full of salt water crocodiles.


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  15. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Mater says:
    August 22, 2021 at 4:31 am”

    Well said.  Thanks Mater.


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  16. Boambee John says:

    <i>Grigory M says:
    August 21, 2021 at 10:09 pm

    “Police running around shooting voters with rubber bullets”

    Hard to understand – live rounds would be more effective – if they want to stop a super-spreader event – and prevent it being repeated.</i>

    Ah! The classic “We had to kill the demonstrators to prevent them possibly getting sick” approach?

     

    Seig Heil Fuerher Grigory!


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  17. Bons says:

    You have always been overly forgiving Cassie.  Perpetual attendance at local Greens branch meetings is a far more terrifying and appropriate revenge.


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  18. Farmer Gez says:

    Andrew Clennell proving he is the most useless prick in journalism.

    In an interview a Doherty Institute’s Jodie McVernon, he fails to ask her how we get to 80% fully vaccinated by the end of the year when countries like Israel still aren’t at that number.

    McVernon casting out thoughts on civil freedom restrictions like confetti went  completely unchallenged.
    Who the hell does she think she is?

     

     


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  19. Boambee John says:

    <i>egg_ says:
    August 21, 2021 at 11:25 pm

    South Australian authorities impose level 6 COVID-19 restrictions on residents returning from Victoria

    ABC</i>

    I notice from the article that the SA Police have also changed from blue to SS Black for their uniforms.


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  20. calli says:

    I’d like to see dispensed to politicians, public servants and MSM…..and I’d reserve the most ghastly for the MSM scum…..I’d like to watch journalists, one by one, being thrown into a pit full of salt water crocodiles.

    Wanton cruelty!

    To crocodiles!

    Pop them into a volcano to appease their climate gods.


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  21. egg_ says:

    Every news outlet was reporting that the police were firing rubbers bullets at the protesters, and the vision they showed indicted an M4/AR-15 variant being used (which it was). Does it matter what these none lethal rounds are made of, rubber or plastic?

    They are a kinetic round, being projected through a rifled barrel, directly at a human being, and all are designed to inflect excruciating pain…the pepper dust is just the cherry on top. A modern version of rubber bullets, designed with the same intent. All will take your eye out in a heartbeat. Hit someone in the head, and let’s see. They are designed to be effective out to 150m, and were being using at ranges that appeared to be well under 10m.

    ____________________

    Already covered in the Ashli Babbit case – IIRC the Euros don’t use ’em due to the high fatality rate of head injuries.

    Helen and yours truly (citing a research document) covered this in one of the US election freds on the old Cat.

     

     


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  22. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Farmer Gez says:
    August 22, 2021 at 8:23 am

    Andrew Clennell proving he is the most useless prick in journalism.

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    I don’t know whether Clennell, that fat smirking mediocrity, should the first or the last to be thrown into the pit of salt water crocs.  Whatever, I’ll enjoy the spectacle.


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  23. Barking Toad says:

    <i>Andrew Clennell proving he is the most useless prick in journalism.</i>

     

    I used to think Clennell was a voice of reason on Fox but as the months have gone by he’s sipped more and more of the Koolaid and joined the baying scaremongers spreading covid fear porn.

    An absolute bunt


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  24. Indolent says:

    EudraVigilance European database of suspected adverse drug reaction reports

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  25. Boambee John says:

    <i>Indolent says:
    August 22, 2021 at 8:26 am

    Not sure where this is –</i>

    Black police uniforms, so Vicco (though the SA Pol have also changed to SS black at some stage, but no big demo there yesterday AFAIK).


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  26. thefrollickingmole says:

    Look what you made me doooo!!!

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/21/australia-anti-lockdown-rallies-protesters-violently-clash-with-police-in-melbourne
    Victoria police said they had made 218 arrests and that six officers were hospitalised during a series of altercations. Police said in a statement the majority of the estimated 4,000 demonstrators “came with violence in mind”.

    “The behaviour seen by police was so hostile and aggressive that they were left with no choice but to use all tactics available to them,” the statement said.
    ….

    Police said they had, for the first time during a lockdown protest, used non-lethal tactics that included rounds of pepper spray projectiles and canisters.


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  27. Boambee John says:

    Cassie

     

    <i>I don’t know whether Clennell, that fat smirking mediocrity, should the first or the last to be thrown into the pit of salt water crocs.  Whatever, I’ll enjoy the spectacle.</i>

     

    Last, let him watch and anticipate (and fear) his own coming fate.


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  28. thefrollickingmole says:

    Vicpol have been drooling to use their new toys since 2018.

     

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victoria-police-reveal-confronting-new-riot-gear-20180323-p4z5wt.html

     

    The weapons, seen by The Age, include:

    A 175 shot pepper ball semi-automatic rifle that fires capsicum rounds, blunt force pellets the size of marbles or dye markers to brand offenders so they can be identified and arrested later.
    A 40-millimetre launcher that fires a hard squash ball like projectile that can hit an offender to a range of 50 metres and lands with the impact of a ‘‘very hard punch’’.
    Stinger grenades that can be rolled into a crowd, explode with light and smoke while releasing nine 32-calibre rubber pellets to waist height with a range of five metres.
    Flash/noise distraction devices designed to shock and disperse violent crowds.
    Capsicum canister – a crowd control weapon of last resort that detonates to release a cloud of capsicum in events such as a prison riot.

    Chief Commissioner Ashton told The Age, the weapons were designed for: ‘‘Major incidents of public disorder, demonstrations that go over the top and where we need to disperse large crowds that are out of control. We need the community to be with us on this.’’

    He warned that while there was a need for the equipment, ‘‘It is an ugly look to see police in riot gear in a suburban street. We now have some equipment that has not been seen before that may alarm people.’’


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  29. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    ≫”In an interview a Doherty Institute’s Jodie McVernon, he fails to ask her how we get to 80% fully vaccinated by the end of the year”≪

    Then there’s 100% vaccination.

    Even 100% vaccination is not enough: 27 people on a cruise ship get infected, one dies (21 Aug)

    Everyone on the ship was vaccinated as a requirement before being allowed to board.  So what do you do when 100% vaccination isn’t enough Ms Berejiklian?

    How about legalizing ivermectin and HCQ?  They reduce hospitlization and death also, and do it by a different mechanism to the vaccines.  So why not do both things?

     


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  30. Boambee John says:

    <i>The weapons, seen by The Age, include:

    A 175 shot pepper ball semi-automatic rifle that fires capsicum rounds, blunt force pellets the size of marbles or dye markers to brand offenders so they can be identified and arrested later.
    A 40-millimetre launcher that fires a hard squash ball like projectile that can hit an offender to a range of 50 metres and lands with the impact of a ‘‘very hard punch’’.
    Stinger grenades that can be rolled into a crowd, explode with light and smoke while releasing nine 32-calibre rubber pellets to waist height with a range of five metres.
    Flash/noise distraction devices designed to shock and disperse violent crowds.
    Capsicum canister – a crowd control weapon of last resort that detonates to release a cloud of capsicum in events such as a prison riot.

    Chief Commissioner Ashton told The Age, the weapons were designed for: ‘‘Major incidents of public disorder, demonstrations that go over the top and where we need to disperse large crowds that are out of control. We need the community to be with us on this.’’</i>

     

    Did The Age(d) express an opinion on the use of such weapons? Would The Age(d) have expressed a different opinion had they been used against BLM protestors?


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  31. rickw says:

    <em> “The behaviour seen by police was so hostile and aggressive that they were left with no choice but to use all tactics available to them,”  </em>

    Calling Vikpol Nazi’s makes them act like Nazi’s….


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  32. Grigory M says:

    MatrixTransform says: August 21, 2021 at 11:09 pm

    “I just went in for a shiraz top-up”

     

    A McLaren Vale GSM for me last evening – while I watched The Imp’s champion overplay his hand.


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  33. Farmer Gez says:

    UK 62% fully vaccinated.

    Austrslia 23%

    UK at the 23% mark on the 1st May.

    So if we follow the UK path, we will still be well short of 80% by Christmas.

    A present from Santa is a better bet than projections from government or health officials.

    lies, damned lies and epidemiologists.


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  34. rickw says:

    <em> ‘‘Major incidents of public disorder, demonstrations that go over the top and where we need to disperse large crowds that are out of control. We need the community to be with us on this.’’ </em>

    2018, At that time all the major incidents of public disorder were in the future…


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  35. Indolent says:

    This will start at 10 a.m. Sydney time.

    LIVE: President Donald J Trump in Cullman, AL (rumble.com)

    The queues were massive hours ago.

    Status / Gab Social


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  36. calli says:

    non-lethal tactics

    Until a round hits someone in the head at close range.

    They got all their cues from the Insurrection That Wasn’t.  Like the mounted coppers at Bondi beach amongst the toddlers, it’s all jim-dandy until something goes wrong.

    Then it’s, Oh, they maaaaaaade us do it!

     


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  37. Crossie says:

    For any future travel, you will be required to lodge an individual exemption request each time you intend to travel through the Travel Exemption Portal, with supporting evidence demonstrating you ordinarily reside in a country other than Australia. Supporting evidence may include:

    This is from Mark A’ comment above quoting our bureaucracy.  I can sort of understand not letting other people into the country so they don’t bring another strain of COVID but stopping people from leaving is totally illogical.  How can they endanger anyone here by leaving?

    These measures are so dangerous because of their capriciousness, you will do as we say because we own you.  So very Soviet and East German of them, at least they don’t have to build a wall to keep us in.

    Will we have to start a submarine version of Underground Railroad to reach freedom?


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  38. calli says:

    disperse large crowds that are out of control

    And when the large crowd isn’t out of control you make darn sure it becomes that way.

    Then you get to play with your toys, you bwave, bwave controllers.


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  39. Ruprecht says:

    Did anyone see the uniform the VicPol Commissioner wore at his press conference yesterday ? Straight out of a fascist dictatorship. I’m assuming it’s deliberate, but not so bad when it has a pink ribbon or rainbow badge on it /sarc.


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  40. Rabz says:

    Good on you, Mater. That bloviating ol’ blowhard will never hear a civil word from me again, nor does he deserve to.

    Rubber bullets fired at protesters. They really have gone full retard. If this doesn’t end up in the long overdue implementation of HOP Time, we truly are stuffed and may as well get ready for our new chicom overlords.

    For the record, I have never supported schlockdowns, nor any of the other ridiculous “measures” implemented by these arrogant fascist quisling imbeciles in response to a mild virus cooked up by bat eating chinese communist morons in a lab.

    The Australia I grew up in is now nothing but a rapidly fading memory. What has replaced it is a vile cancerous hitlerist travesty that I don’t want to exist in.


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  41. egg_ says:

    A 40-millimetre launcher that fires a hard squash ball like projectile that can hit an offender to a range of 50 metres and lands with the impact of a ‘‘very hard punch’’.

    ____________________

    Eyeball sized.

     


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  42. egg_ says:

    Insiders headlines include

    NSW OK to open with 70% jab rate – PM


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  43. mh says: