Open Thread – Thursday 5 August 2021

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  1. rickw says:

    “Our posturing politicians, many over there, the sensationalist media elite and the dictatorial medical bureaucrats need to recognise these facts and stop spreading fear,”

    Right over target.


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  2. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    EvilElvis says:
    August 10, 2021 at 9:08 pm

    If there’s a question on vaccinations, then, yes.


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  3. mem says:

    This article is well worth reading and compares normal/expected average death rates across age ranges with deaths across age ranges attributed to/or with Covid, The author is German and uses figures for that country, but as he states, the analysis could equally be applied to most western countries. Importantly if we apply the same analysis to Australia we get a similar finding.https://brownstone.org/articles/a-closer-look-at-germanys-covid-mortality/


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  4. Dot says:

    Ackchually, the Census was very easy to fill out and had less (?) questions than last time, IIRC.


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  5. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Don Quixote’s horse, aka Potential Senator, aka Keeper of the AKs, aka Faulty:

    If memory serves

    But it doesn’t serve, because it’s wrong. Your grooming target got herself banned several times for going so far off the reservation she needed a sleeping bag and a long-rang tank to get back within sight of it.

    Nobody, and I mean nobody assigned her any culpability for the Great Reset* of 2020.

    But you know this. And with the access you claim to the archives, you could dig it out.

    But you won’t.

    *Snork.


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  6. Rosé says:

    Bolt will be granted a pleasant exile and not execution like the rest because:

    His relentless, albeit futile, campaign against the Climate Change fraud.*

    His work in regard to the hideous Pell injustice.

    *He never really got around to the who and why of it. Maybe pointed folk in the right direction, at best.


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  7. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    “Ackchually, the Census was very easy to fill out and had less (?) questions than last time, IIRC.”

    Concur.


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  8. mh says:

    The census has a high focus on people in the household who either require physical assistance or care for someone who needs physical assistance.

    I expect the ABS has been advised of the vaccine injuries coming down the pipeline.


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  9. Knuckle Dragger says:

    The heir to the poorly-cooked smallgoods empire got put on as a trial for three hours at a decent bistro/restaurant in town this evening. The joint’s also fortuitously about a three wood from my place.

    Three hours, they had him doing food prep and a bit of cooking. He walked out with a job for as many non-school hours and weekends as he can handle.

    Excellent. As I told him, he’s in the main game now.


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  10. Steve trickler says:

    Census done. My password was a cracker.

    Hi Klaus! ( name not used at all ).

    Intrusive bastards probably have all the data anywayyyyss.


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  11. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    “Bolt will be granted a pleasant exile and not execution like the rest because:”

    Bolt was going to run with the Julia Gilliard/Workplace reform swindle, He was so stunned at the speed, and viciousness of her attack on Micheal Smith that he was contemplating retirement then.


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  12. Crankie of Sydney says:

    “Lard exists for that. Or Sunflower oil etc. Something with a high smoke point.”
    ——————————————————————————-
    Or use coconut oil, butter, duck fat, chicken fat or goose fat.


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  13. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    “Excellent. As I told him, he’s in the main game now.”

    Good start, KD. Well done to your hope and pride.


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  14. Rosé says:

    Some pimply kid doing prep and cooking straight off the bat?

    McDonalds?


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  15. JC says:

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
    August 10, 2021 at 10:14 pm

    “Ackchually, the Census was very easy to fill out and had less (?) questions than last time, IIRC.”

    Concur.

    Inndeed, Rones. Inndeed. Especially when you’re drunk.


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  16. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    Rockdoctor says:
    August 10, 2021 at 8:35 pm

    Hope it all goes well, RD. But you’ll not be lost to the blog at least.


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  17. Rosé says:

    Yes, crankie. Just not olive oil to start proceedings. Add it to your dish later when at a lower temp etc.


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  18. Indolent says:

    This is the clip I previously posted of Dr. Dan Stock presenting to the Mt. Vernon School Board on the science behind Covid and vaccines from another site. It now has more than 3 millions views:

    https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1425051940363415552


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  19. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
    August 10, 2021 at 8:31 pm
    From the “Australian.” The lunatics are running the asylum…

    +1
    Quality journalism still being churned out at The Oz, I see. /sarc

    Should I add an emoji for that – is there a sarc one? Who would know? According to that dribble they mean different things to different age groups.


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  20. Professor Higgins says:

    Rosé says:

    August 10, 2021 at 10:24 pm

    Some pimply kid doing prep and cooking straight off the bat?

    McDonalds?

    No matter.
    When I was employing grads I always looked for that sort of history.
    I would take a kid with a work ethic over some pampered shit with slightly higher grades and no ability to adhere to basic work disciplines.
    All day, every day.


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  21. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Some pimply kid doing prep and cooking straight off the bat?

    McDonalds?

    Nope. A pretty decent joint, as I mentioned. He’s been doing it as a subject at school for a couple of years.

    My level of pride will be determined by how many free steaks he brings home.


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  22. rocinante says:

    Knuckle Dragger says:
    August 10, 2021 at 10:12 pm

    Actually Knuckles, I have just emailed Cassie and asked her if she would like me to post the series of emails that were posted at the time of the lockout, when NFA made the FreedomForum available. They include comments about you, LL, Nota and Nick. The “Gang of Four” as she labelled you all at the time.

    The collection of emails include comments by me, Cassie, Cardimona, Lizzie, and several others on just who was responsible for the lockout, and how, and why.

    I will wait for a reply from Cassie before taking any further action. But not forever. Whether you lot realise it or not, we are now in a state of war. We have an agent provocateur in our midst, with three useful fool sycophants, and it is time to put and end to this charade.


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  23. Professor Higgins says:

    Ruprecht says:

    August 10, 2021 at 10:05 pm

    Actually Prof H, you’re right, I’ve checked, it was a website.

    Any idea of the rough size of this website?


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  24. Professor Higgins says:

    Ooooh!
    It’s war!
    Don’t burst your stitches!!


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  25. Rosé says:

    Graeme invaded Monty’s blog. Used the term ‘Kosher Nostra’ in his one and only comment.

    Monty didn’t twig. Responded as to a genuine post etc.

    Mrs. Sheen aka Rosie was on the job stat. ROFL


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  26. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Actually:

    McDonald’s?

    He hasn’t got a Bachelor of Arts in anything, so no.


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  27. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Inndeed (sic), Rones. Inndeed.(sic) Especially when you’re drunk.

    Try not to judge everyone by your own standards of behaviour, JoeC. It’s not a good look.


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  28. Professor Higgins says:

    OK.
    Download “email fudger for Windows”.
    Type up fantasy.
    Post to website.
    That should fool … nobody, actually.


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  29. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Faulty Six or Ten or Sixteen Strokes, Dependent on Which Prediction Is Given:

    I have just emailed Cassie and asked her if she would like me to post the series of emails that were posted at the time of the lockout,

    Why ask someone else? Why can’t you just post them as I asked – nay, dared?

    when NFA made the FreedomForum available.

    Was this just before NFA was banned himself for being Radio Rental?

    I will wait for a reply from Cassie before taking any further action. But not forever.

    Not forever? Oooooooooh.

    Stop waiting for women to tell you what to do, and just do it. Unedited, if you wouldn’t mind.


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  30. C.L. says:

    Red Meat King Paul Murray had a New Sky ‘message’ tonight while discussing the latest climate hoaxing. “Some of you won’t like this but you can’t have six billion people and multiple industrial revolutions and not harm the planet… but …”

    The “but” was, “but it’s about proportionality.”

    This is Sky’s sudden, workshopped thing: give ’em a taste of beef and then stand over them to make them accept the far left’s fundamental premises. The scraps of ‘proportionality’ are what they’re going with now.


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  31. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    Pretty actresses from the 1920s and guns plus nice houses are my preference

    scenes of the beach, would be nice.


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  32. Rosé says:

    When I was up in Darwin last year, most kitchens were Asian run it seemed. They would throw you in the deep end straight away.

    Your story is not implausible. Good luck to the kid.

    If you like the industry you can move fast if good enough.


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  33. Professor Higgins says:

    Just who is this agent provocateur?
    And what or who is he/she provocateuring?


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  34. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    oh, and a 1936 Le Mans British Racing Green Bentley with supercharger.


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  35. jupes says:

    Bolt will be granted a pleasant exile and not execution like the rest because:

    His relentless, albeit futile, campaign against the Climate Change fraud.*

    His work in regard to the hideous Pell injustice.

    And his relentless, albeit futile, campaign against the Stolen Generation fraud.

    Sad now but it seems he is past his use-by date. Trump broke him.


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  36. Timothy Neilson says:

    rosie says:
    August 10, 2021 at 8:50 pm
    Tim

    the l*** m******* comment.

    I’m not criticising, just saying it was after the whole scented candle episode*
    *Only the cat could have a war erupt with scented candles in the thick of things
    ******
    Oh, that.
    Well, I stand by it.
    Lizzie was subjected to some satire for some of her self-referential anecdotes. It was genteel badminton compared with the ultimate cage fight nature of much of the Open Thread but it prompted an astonishing rush on fainting couches and smelling salts. There used to be a thing called a “sense of proportion”. I’d have no problem with anyone asserting that the satirists were overreacting if that’s what they thought, but there seemed to be a demand that commenters were under a moral obligation to treat Lizzie’s autobiographical propensities with the reverence of the North Korean media towards Kim Jong Un.


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  37. custard says:

    I felt the census was more like a data matching exercise rather than a genuine snapshot of our current situation.
    Having to complete it when our society is self destructing itself is rather galling.


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  38. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    “Some of you won’t like this but you can’t have six billion people and multiple industrial revolutions and not harm the planet… but …”

    Libertarian to his bootstraps, I see.


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  39. Rosé says:

    Quite a few Sky News* memberships will be getting cancelled soon. Or is it a package deal with the Footy etc?

    * working for the Man.


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  40. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    I see you’ve popped in, Nick!


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  41. rocinante says:

    Knuckle Dragger says:
    August 10, 2021 at 10:45 pm

    Stop waiting for women to tell you what to do, and just do it. Unedited, if you wouldn’t mind.
    ———————————–
    Yes Knuckles.
    Cassie was given her chance to veto it and didn’t.
    So I will be posting them all tomorrow morning.
    I’m too beat now to do anything.


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  42. egg_ says:

    Was that as a follow up to Lizzie snarling at Johanna to get a mouldy dildo up her?

    ——————————————-

    Wasn’t a Grigsock calling Arma “Humpty Dildo” for quite a while?


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  43. Thefrollickingmole says:

    Last episode of “ the boys” tonight.
    Solid 9/10 for a fun series to watch.
    Swearier than deadwood.
    More exploding heads as well.
    Lot less nudity though.


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  44. jupes says:

    “Some of you won’t like this but you can’t have six billion people and multiple industrial revolutions and not harm the planet… but …”

    “Harm the planet”.

    One of the greatest propaganda terms in history. Brilliantly used by the left to destroy the minds of generations of kids. Murray, of course, is a fool to perpetuate this garbage. But we knew that.


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  45. Professor Higgins says:

    Neilson!
    That’s agent provocateur stuff!
    Was it just scented candles?
    Or did it extend to bath salts, throw rugs and scatter cushions?


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  46. egg_ says:

    Birdie’s nuff nuffs are lost without him, obviously.


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  47. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Farter time.

    To dream of ‘absent friends’.

    Not really.


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  48. Steve trickler says:

    The Mini copped a flogging during filming. A lot of repairs in between takes.

    The Bourne Identity Car Chase – Paul Oakenfold Reаdy Steady Go


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  49. Professor Higgins says:

    Hey rocinante.
    I’d be more worried about Bird cutting your lunch with [name redacted] than searching the archives.
    I mean, imagine putting in so much groundwork, only to have that Johnny-cum-lately roll up and jump the queue.
    Not that I am suggesting there is a queue.
    Perish the thought.


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  50. Thefrollickingmole says:

    Awesome, the new cat is to be treated to the equivalent of lepers picking sores and foraging for cock cheese while yelling “ look at this, I’m the wronged one”.

    How about 90% of people don’t give a rats fat about net based hurty feelz and those feeling a burning, burning NEED to rake them anew should swap emails and engage in their quest for validation there.

    🙂 which as all the cool kids know doesn’t mean happy face but rather get a wooly bull up you.


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  51. Top Ender says:

    This can’t be right! Aren’t the Greens perfect in every way?

    Senior NSW Greens MP David Shoebridge is facing allegations he bullied former female colleagues and staff over a decade, leaving one woman feeling “unsafe” and driving party members to write a formal letter of complaint.

    The Australian can reveal multiple incidents where women in the party were allegedly targeted and belittled by Mr Shoebridge, who holds the No 1 spot on the Greens’ NSW Senate ticket.

    Greens sources said Mr Shoebridge’s alleged bad behaviour contravened the party’s core principles of respect and nonviolence, and was well known among Greens staffers.

    READ NEXT

    Review or no review, Teague is doomed
    JON RALPH
    Lauren Gillin, a former policy and communications adviser who spent three years working for Mr Shoebridge, alleged in a series of tweets published on July 23 that her former boss had stopped a meeting to call her “unattractive” after she laughed at him.

    In the subsequently deleted tweets obtained by The Australian, Ms Gillin said she was “far from the only woman in the party to take issue with him”.

    “But it’s not ok for a guy who sells himself as a hero for workers. To (sic) humiliate his young ­female staff on the basis of appearance. Lots of workers have it way worse than I did but the greens and the left should expect better from their representatives,” Ms Gillin wrote. “(He told me) he was sorry I thought the comment was sexist and the(n) accuse (sic) me of starting a whispering campaign against him.”

    The Australian is not suggesting the allegations are true, only that they have been made.

    The allegations made by Ms Gillin, who worked for Mr Shoebridge from 2017 until early 2021, are considered serious enough by the Young Greens that they have drafted a formal complaint letter against Mr Shoebridge. They are considering lodging the letter, ­addressed to the Greens NSW convenor, with the party.

    “It has come to the attention of the NSW Young Greens by social media that there have been bullying and unethical conduct allegations raised against Greens NSW member of parliament (MP) David Shoebridge,” the letter says. “The NSW Young Greens request that an external review of the allegations made against David Shoebridge are undertaken forthright.”

    Given the pivotal role the Young Greens play shaping policy and cultivating support on the left wing of the party, the revolt against Mr Shoebridge could prove problematic for his attempt to enter federal politics.

    After entering Macquarie Street in 2010, Mr Shoebridge won the NSW Greens’ top Senate ticket during preselection in March. He will look to become the party’s second senator in the state alongside Mehreen Faruqi.

    In a statement, Mr Shoebridge didn’t deny using the word “unattractive”, but disputed Ms Gillin’s version of events, saying it was used in reference to her “argument”. “During a discussion about a media strategy I described the communications approach of a staff member as an ‘unattractive argument’. When a concern was raised I apologised at the time, and have reiterated my regret since,” he said.

    Ms Gillin said she stood by her accusations. She said there hadn’t been an official approach from the NSW Greens about the allegations. Attempts by the Young Greens to secure an external review have been unsuccessful. Greens sources said there was disagreement about whether the Australian Greens had the power to compel the NSW division to launch a ­review. Others said there was an effort within the NSW branch to protect Mr Shoebridge. The incident involving Ms Gillin was not isolated according to other allegations made by several current and former members of the Greens who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

    They said they had either personally experienced or witnessed Mr Shoebridge bully parliamentary colleagues or staffers.

    Greens sources ­pointed to the experience of Jan Barham, a member of the NSW Legislative Council from 2011 to 2017. They ­alleged Mr Shoebridge’s behaviour towards her was part of a broader campaign of intimidation by the Greens “socialist” faction and a major reason for her departure from state politics.

    The Australian has confirmed that Ms Barham was referring to Mr Shoebridge and his supporters during her valedictory speech in 2016 when she pointed to the “fraught” internal debate over the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions policy in 2011 – a Greens policy which sought to protest Israel’s occupation of the Palestinian Territories. “It led to the circulation of misinformation that inflamed some members and led to me being abused at a state delegates council meeting. The bullying and conflict involved in that situation left me feeling unsafe,” Ms Barham told the NSW parliament on November 17, 2016.

    “In recent times there has been public exposure of some of the nastiness that has emerged in the Greens and it saddens me that some members exhibit behaviour contrary to the core principles of the Greens.”

    In response to questions about Ms Barham’s speech, Mr Shoebridge said he had “disagreed with a former Greens MP” on the party’s response to Indigenous children being removed from their families.

    “With the situation growing rapidly worse, I felt compelled to work with affected families to do what I could to ensure families weren’t torn apart,” he said.

    Asked why Mr Shoebridge’s behaviour had not previously been made public, Greens sources said his political talents meant many MPs were willing to tolerate his alleged bad behaviour as they considered him indispensable.

    Also, there was a fierce factional battle for the heart of the party which saw Mr Shoebridge and his allies on the “socialist left” wage a campaign against the ­“environmental right”. The battle saw many members of the latter leave politics, leaving Mr Shoebridge in control of the party.

    Internally, grievances have been raised in the past. A 2017 party­room meeting ended with Newtown MP Jenny Leong ­reportedly yelling “f..k you” at Mr Shoebridge, before storming out. She was joined by Senator Faruqi, who was then a member of the NSW Legislative Council, and Byron-based MLC Dawn Walker.

    The allegations against Mr Shoebridge come just three years after Ms Leong used parliamentary privilege to accuse then MLC Jeremy Buckingham of committing an “act of sexual violence” against party aide Ella Buckland in 2011. While an external review found there was insufficient evidence to substantiate the complaint, Mr Buckingham was eventually forced out of the party. He denied the allegations, ­accusing his own “corrupt and rotten” party of running a “diabolical smear campaign”.

    A spokesman for federal Greens leader Adam Bandt said the party wasn’t aware of any complaints being made against Mr Shoebridge. “The Greens have zero tolerance for bullying or harassment and treat all complaints seriously,” he said.

    The NSW Greens said they had not received “any complaint, formal or informal, from the staff member in question or any party member on their behalf”.

    Oz


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  52. Professor Higgins says:

    I wonder if rocinante has sent any overbearing, even threatening or bullying messages to any of his previous correspondents this evening?
    And how it would look if they were published as well.


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  53. Professor Higgins says: