Travel in and out of Melbourne by public transport and car has ground to a halt to prevent anti-lockdown protesters from gathering in the CBD.
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How dare Australians protest against the New World Order!
In further news biden’s admin admit the drone attack was on one of the afghan supporters of the US and 9 of his family. What a fucking disgrace. Biden should be hung.
The family of a Queensland man are fighting for answers and change after he tragically took his own life less than a day after leaving two weeks of hotel quarantine last year.
Mr Luxton had been grappling with mental health issues when he returned home to Brisbane to be supported by his family last year.
A year after his tragic death, Brendan’s sister Marita Corbett and younger brother Derek Luxton are calling for change after they witnessed their brother’s mental health severely deteriorate in his two weeks quarantine.
Mr Luxton (R) with his siblings.
“The lack of compassion and common sense from this government is galling,” Ms Corbett said.
Three days into Mr Luxton’s quarantine, Ms Corbett realised her brother’s mental health was deteriorating and she started the exemption process.
Despite outlining an entire Covid safety plan, that would give Mr Luxton an entire floor of his sister’s house, and writing to Queensland Health that his “mental despair was … extreme and unbearable”, her requests were ignored.
Mr Luxton returned to his sister’s house after completing two weeks in hotel quarantine, taking his own life 24 hours after being released.
“It is staggering to me that despite outlining Brendan’s mental health history, and submitting a detailed Covid-safe plan, our application was just thrown on the pile,” Ms Corbett told The Courier-Mail.
“Dannii Minogue was granted an exemption to quarantine in a Gold Coast mansion, and it’s fine for NRL players to get special treatment, but ordinary Queenslanders get no help.”
Derek, Mr Luxton’s younger brother, said they believed if Brendan had been released from quarantine when they asked, he would still be alive today.
In further news biden’s admin admit the drone attack was on one of the afghan supporters of the US and 9 of his family. What a fucking disgrace. Biden should be hung.
‘I don’t think we should trust anybody. So i think we need a submarine we can build and maintain in Australia.’
Neil.
This country, at present, cannot build and maintain a lawnmower – let alone a submarine, let alone a fleet of submarines, let alone provision and fuel them during wartime.
”
Guns? Ammo?
If we are reliant on another country, we are at their mercy and whim – is that what we want when it comes to national defense?
First of all we can and have built subs here – yes, they weren’t particularly great, but that means there are two options:
Give up and buy from someone else
Learn from the mistakes and build better next time.
If we do it ourselves, and end up making a great piece of kit, we can sell it to other countries that might want the same.
Consider the car industry – Holden made a profit on designing and building just 200k cars, something done nowhere else in the world. That product was the basis for it’s parent companies new models in the US as well – products that were praised by industry “critics”/writers as well as the general public as a good quality design and cheap to manufacture.
We can do it – if we want to and if we dare. I think we should do it. We have a history of making innovative stuff, even military stuff – CIWS (radar controlled gattling gun to destroy ship killer missiles) is Australian invention, as is over-the-horizon back-scatter radar. Both those technologies were given to the US and other allies. We have the engineering talent to design and build whatever is required, we just lack the political will to do it.
Ricardo or Clive? The one with the biggest club over the next few weeks gets the tick. Hope I’m picked for jury duty. Might just mail in my “guilty” verdict to save time.
“”” If we are reliant on another country, we are at their mercy and whim – is that what we want when it comes to national defense? “””
Exactly. That is why i said we need subs we can maintain and build here. Even if they are slightly inferior. If we need to repair a nuclear reactor can we call time out on the war until we can send the reactor to the USA???
I think we should build diesels but always have one under construction so we don’t lose any building skills. If we have 10 subs and build one every 4 years that means we would have a continual production line.
“”” Diesels are noisy, have no range and will be picked off within the first week. “”
Running on batteries, diesels are quieter than a nuclear submarine because the nuclear reactor when operating is louder than batteries which make no noise
BTW i made 2 posts yesterday on “no taxation without representation” and they went into moderation and i have yet to see them. So i thought i have been banned for some reason. Looks like i can post today.
Neil I asked you if you understood how D/E subs worked? The answer is no. Just say it. Every 3 days D/E subs have to snorkel to run the diesel engine. Is that quieter than the noise generated from extremely quiet reactor cooling pumps. Will the snorkel be seen from satellites, will the the engine be heard from sonar arrays? Answer the question or piss off. You’ve become boring, but you knew that already.
JOINT MEDIA RELEASE
Key Naval projects confirmed for South Australia
Senator the Hon. Simon Birmingham
Minister for Finance
Leader of the Government in the Senate
Senator for South Australia
The Hon. Scott Morrison MP
Prime Minister
The Hon. Peter Dutton MP
Minister for Defence
Date: Thursday, 16 September 2021
South Australia will spearhead a major expansion of Australia’s naval capabilities, supporting thousands of jobs and advancing the state’s shipbuilding expertise.
A number of naval projects have been confirmed for South Australia, following the announcement today of a new enhanced security partnership between Australia, the United Kingdom and the United States.
The first initiative under the partnership, known as AUKUS, is to acquire nuclear-powered submarines for Australia, which are intended to be built in South Australia.
The Morrison Government has also approved a Life-of-Type Extension to the Collins class submarine fleet from 2026 in South Australia, and confirmed that the Full-Cycle Docking of the Collins class will continue to be conducted at Osborne. Up to $6.4 billion will be invested in these works, and around 1,300 jobs supported in South Australia.
The Government will also invest up to $5.1 billion in upgrades to the Hobart Class destroyer combat management system upgrades at Osborne from 2024, creating 300 jobs in the state.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the investments reinforced the Government’s commitment to South Australia’s shipbuilding industry.
“This expansion of Australia’s naval capabilities will strengthen national security, boost our sovereign workforce and support thousands of jobs in the South Australian industry,” the Prime Minister said.
“South Australia is home to some of the most skilled shipbuilding workers in the world, they have the know-how, ingenuity, industrial knowledge and determination that is required to provide our Defence Force with the very best capability.”
Minister for Defence Peter Dutton said the Government’s investments would ensure Australia maintained a strong and agile submarine capability for decades.
“The Collins class submarine to this day remains one of the most capable conventional submarines in the world,” Minister Dutton said.
“The planned Life-of-Type Extension, through the replacement of key systems, will help deliver Defence’s strategic objectives.
“The upgrade to the Aegis combat management system will ensure our fleet of Hobart class air warfare destroyers maintain their capability-edge into the future.
“Both of these projects announced today are vital for Defence’s ability to act with greater independence in an increasingly contested strategic environment.”
Minister for Finance and Senator for South Australia Simon Birmingham said the state would continue to benefit from the Morrison Government’s sovereign and continuous naval shipbuilding program.
“South Australia is the engine room of naval shipbuilding in this country,” Minister Birmingham said.
“Full-Cycle Docking and Life-of-Type Extension at Osborne will ensure we retain our skilled shipbuilding workforce, and will continue to create opportunities for local businesses to engage with the defence industry.
“In addition, the up to $5.1 billion investment in upgrading the Hobart class combat management system will create extra economic activity as well as around 300 jobs in the state.
“Conducting these sustainment projects in Osborne, on top of the building of frigates and submarines will ensure South of Australia continues to be the epicentre of naval shipbuilding in this country.”
Collins class submarine HMAS Farncomb will be the first to undergo a Life-of-Type Extension when it enters its next Full-Cycle Docking in 2026.
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Senator the Hon Simon Birmingham, Minister for Finance, Adelaide
“”” Neil I asked you if you understood how D/E subs worked? The answer is no. Just say it. Every 3 days D/E subs have to snorkel to run the diesel engine. “”
When running on batteries a diesel sub is quieter than a nuc sub.
OK to recharge the batteries they have to turn on the diesel engine which sounds like a freight train.
But you say a diesel sub can run for 3 days on batteries. In some situations that should be fine. I think they can run for longer as well. Israel has Diesel subs.
Perhaps we could ask Israel to help us build diesel subs.
You don’t need to build submarines to be able to maintain, overhaul and repair them (MRO). You need an MRO shop. Commonly done in the aviation industry where the MRO shops can’t build airliners but can keep them flying.
“”” You need to build an MRO shop not a factory.”””
And what if you need something that cannot be repaired?? That is why Britain for example makes most of its own military stuff. In a crisis you have to be self sufficient.
Israel has diesel subs. We should ask them to help us make diesels. Apparently their subs can operate for up to a week underwater on battery power and AIP.
Not being nasty neil. Your inability to understand is the problem. How big is Israel’s coastline, Mediterranean too shallow. No advantage for nuclear. The choggies have already said we are a nuclear target coz we say mean things to them. The idea of a submarine is so nobody knows where you are including your own people. We already have enough traitors without someone telling the enemy and that’s what the west taiwanese are, where your best defense or offense is.
Fight breaks out as thousands protest vaccinations, masks and lockdowns in Brisbane
Moments after speeches claimed it was a “peaceful rally”, a fight has broken out as thousands of people protest vaccinations, masks and future lockdowns in Brisbane’s CBD.
‘Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk’s school mate was desperate. Spiralling with suicidal thoughts while locked in hotel quarantine, his family frantically tried to get him help. But it was ignored by Queensland Health. Then he took his life.’
“”” And no possible diesel design can have the range and endurance and ability to stay submerged forever that a nuclear does. “”
So what?? There are other factors involved. What if our new nuc sub needs a spare part we do not make in Australia. And this broken part means the sub is not functional??
WE need to be self sufficient something that will not be remotely possible with a nuc sub. Not possible with a diesel either but we would be more capable of fixing a broken diesel sub than a nuc sub.
Why can’t we be a little different for once like Sweden and develop a unique diesel submarine??
Ah yes. Sweden. Globally renowned for their submarine fleet. Everyone says ‘I’d invade Sweden and pick off all their stuff, except I’m terrified of their ‘unique’ diesel submarines, which I can hear from my own bed.’
And as not needing or wanting nukes because they’re ‘macho’ – Neil, the following is a list of what wins wars:
From a stealth point of view they are the equivalent of a pimp driving a pink cadillac convertible with a boot full of doof-doof speakers turned up to eleven.
Fine for puddling around and annoying the Indons but that is about it.
The diesels put our submariners in harms way just so a bunch of Foreign Affairies can swan around the cocktail party circuit proudly proclaiming “nuclear freeeeee!”
Yarragrad Freedom Rally location has switched.
New location – Corner of Bridge Rd & Church St, Richmond.
150m from me lol
Trains terminate at Burnley from the east, but only 10 minute walk. Trams may run right to it, not sure?
Bring everyone
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This mob is doing great things for gun owners:
GUN BAN UPDATE: Minister gets over 1,000 emails – National Shooting Council
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Isn’t a bossy party policy death for treason?
Didn’t he just reel off a list of possibly tens of thousands of potential traitors?
Of what they are guilty is yEt tO be ReveAled.
Can’t see the forest for the trees.
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Travel in and out of Melbourne by public transport and car has ground to a halt to prevent anti-lockdown protesters from gathering in the CBD.
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How dare Australians protest against the New World Order!
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The right to protest is a huge marker.
It affirms the right of thought, and the right to meet the like minded.
Fundamental stuff, no matter what
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Good luck to Danistan Cats attending todays rally
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This is on the fucking zombie:
Report: Taliban Beheaded Two Boys Aged 9 and 10 in Afghanistan (legalinsurrection.com)
In further news biden’s admin admit the drone attack was on one of the afghan supporters of the US and 9 of his family. What a fucking disgrace. Biden should be hung.
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Sheeple of the Year!
This idiot needs another airing.
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Did anyone notice the flaw in the writ issued to The Cossack?
He was effectively barred from sitting in his lounge room. By the date, he must vacate the 7km radius.
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Man takes his own life after hotel quarantine
Natalie Wolfe
The family of a Queensland man are fighting for answers and change after he tragically took his own life less than a day after leaving two weeks of hotel quarantine last year.
Brendan Luxton, who was a childhood friend of Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk, took his own life on July 17, 2020, with the family telling The Courier-Mail their desperate pleas to Queensland Health were repeatedly ignored.
Mr Luxton had been grappling with mental health issues when he returned home to Brisbane to be supported by his family last year.
A year after his tragic death, Brendan’s sister Marita Corbett and younger brother Derek Luxton are calling for change after they witnessed their brother’s mental health severely deteriorate in his two weeks quarantine.
Mr Luxton (R) with his siblings.
“The lack of compassion and common sense from this government is galling,” Ms Corbett said.
Three days into Mr Luxton’s quarantine, Ms Corbett realised her brother’s mental health was deteriorating and she started the exemption process.
Despite outlining an entire Covid safety plan, that would give Mr Luxton an entire floor of his sister’s house, and writing to Queensland Health that his “mental despair was … extreme and unbearable”, her requests were ignored.
Mr Luxton returned to his sister’s house after completing two weeks in hotel quarantine, taking his own life 24 hours after being released.
“It is staggering to me that despite outlining Brendan’s mental health history, and submitting a detailed Covid-safe plan, our application was just thrown on the pile,” Ms Corbett told The Courier-Mail.
“Dannii Minogue was granted an exemption to quarantine in a Gold Coast mansion, and it’s fine for NRL players to get special treatment, but ordinary Queenslanders get no help.”
Derek, Mr Luxton’s younger brother, said they believed if Brendan had been released from quarantine when they asked, he would still be alive today.
If you or someone you know needs assistance you can contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 or https://www.lifeline.org.au/ or Beyond Blue on 1300 224 636 or at http://www.beyondblue.org.au
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The Cossack lives at Breakfast Point, outside of the exclusion area.
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In further news biden’s admin admit the drone attack was on one of the afghan supporters of the US and 9 of his family. What a fucking disgrace. Biden should be hung.
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Morrison is hanging out with the wrong people.
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What exclusion are?
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….Area
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What exclusion are?
It’s on the map in the paperwork. Look at 1:35 on the video. It is centered at Alexandria.
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Need to distract those naughty Talibanis with Pronhub
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From JoNova
Co2 shortage in Britain (no laughing this is serious)
https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/other/meat-industry-warns-production-could-be-hit-by-co2-shortage/ar-AAOyAR3?ocid=msedgntp
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‘I don’t think we should trust anybody. So i think we need a submarine we can build and maintain in Australia.’
Neil.
This country, at present, cannot build and maintain a lawnmower – let alone a submarine, let alone a fleet of submarines, let alone provision and fuel them during wartime.
”
Guns? Ammo?
If we are reliant on another country, we are at their mercy and whim – is that what we want when it comes to national defense?
First of all we can and have built subs here – yes, they weren’t particularly great, but that means there are two options:
Give up and buy from someone else
Learn from the mistakes and build better next time.
If we do it ourselves, and end up making a great piece of kit, we can sell it to other countries that might want the same.
Consider the car industry – Holden made a profit on designing and building just 200k cars, something done nowhere else in the world. That product was the basis for it’s parent companies new models in the US as well – products that were praised by industry “critics”/writers as well as the general public as a good quality design and cheap to manufacture.
We can do it – if we want to and if we dare. I think we should do it. We have a history of making innovative stuff, even military stuff – CIWS (radar controlled gattling gun to destroy ship killer missiles) is Australian invention, as is over-the-horizon back-scatter radar. Both those technologies were given to the US and other allies. We have the engineering talent to design and build whatever is required, we just lack the political will to do it.
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Ricardo or Clive? The one with the biggest club over the next few weeks gets the tick. Hope I’m picked for jury duty. Might just mail in my “guilty” verdict to save time.
War with China? Will that be WW3 or WW4?
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Big Clive needs some billboards like this
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“”” If we are reliant on another country, we are at their mercy and whim – is that what we want when it comes to national defense? “””
Exactly. That is why i said we need subs we can maintain and build here. Even if they are slightly inferior. If we need to repair a nuclear reactor can we call time out on the war until we can send the reactor to the USA???
I think we should build diesels but always have one under construction so we don’t lose any building skills. If we have 10 subs and build one every 4 years that means we would have a continual production line.
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“I think we should build diesels”
..
Then you are dooming all the young submariners who go to war in them to death.
Diesels are noisy, have no range and will be picked off within the first week.
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“”” Diesels are noisy, have no range and will be picked off within the first week. “”
Running on batteries, diesels are quieter than a nuclear submarine because the nuclear reactor when operating is louder than batteries which make no noise
BTW i made 2 posts yesterday on “no taxation without representation” and they went into moderation and i have yet to see them. So i thought i have been banned for some reason. Looks like i can post today.
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Submarines are a wank. Big boys toys.
What we need is around 50 infantry battalions and accompanying artillery, cavalry and engineers.
This is after we have purged all government, and other institutions of authority, of the traitors and globalist lackeys; as Ricardo Bosi suggests.
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Neil I asked you if you understood how D/E subs worked? The answer is no. Just say it. Every 3 days D/E subs have to snorkel to run the diesel engine. Is that quieter than the noise generated from extremely quiet reactor cooling pumps. Will the snorkel be seen from satellites, will the the engine be heard from sonar arrays? Answer the question or piss off. You’ve become boring, but you knew that already.
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JOINT MEDIA RELEASE
Key Naval projects confirmed for South Australia
Senator the Hon. Simon Birmingham
Minister for Finance
Leader of the Government in the Senate
Senator for South Australia
The Hon. Scott Morrison MP
Prime Minister
The Hon. Peter Dutton MP
Minister for Defence
Date: Thursday, 16 September 2021
South Australia will spearhead a major expansion of Australia’s naval capabilities, supporting thousands of jobs and advancing the state’s shipbuilding expertise.
A number of naval projects have been confirmed for South Australia, following the announcement today of a new enhanced security partnership between Australia, the United Kingdom and the United States.
The first initiative under the partnership, known as AUKUS, is to acquire nuclear-powered submarines for Australia, which are intended to be built in South Australia.
The Morrison Government has also approved a Life-of-Type Extension to the Collins class submarine fleet from 2026 in South Australia, and confirmed that the Full-Cycle Docking of the Collins class will continue to be conducted at Osborne. Up to $6.4 billion will be invested in these works, and around 1,300 jobs supported in South Australia.
The Government will also invest up to $5.1 billion in upgrades to the Hobart Class destroyer combat management system upgrades at Osborne from 2024, creating 300 jobs in the state.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the investments reinforced the Government’s commitment to South Australia’s shipbuilding industry.
“This expansion of Australia’s naval capabilities will strengthen national security, boost our sovereign workforce and support thousands of jobs in the South Australian industry,” the Prime Minister said.
“South Australia is home to some of the most skilled shipbuilding workers in the world, they have the know-how, ingenuity, industrial knowledge and determination that is required to provide our Defence Force with the very best capability.”
Minister for Defence Peter Dutton said the Government’s investments would ensure Australia maintained a strong and agile submarine capability for decades.
“The Collins class submarine to this day remains one of the most capable conventional submarines in the world,” Minister Dutton said.
“The planned Life-of-Type Extension, through the replacement of key systems, will help deliver Defence’s strategic objectives.
“The upgrade to the Aegis combat management system will ensure our fleet of Hobart class air warfare destroyers maintain their capability-edge into the future.
“Both of these projects announced today are vital for Defence’s ability to act with greater independence in an increasingly contested strategic environment.”
Minister for Finance and Senator for South Australia Simon Birmingham said the state would continue to benefit from the Morrison Government’s sovereign and continuous naval shipbuilding program.
“South Australia is the engine room of naval shipbuilding in this country,” Minister Birmingham said.
“Full-Cycle Docking and Life-of-Type Extension at Osborne will ensure we retain our skilled shipbuilding workforce, and will continue to create opportunities for local businesses to engage with the defence industry.
“In addition, the up to $5.1 billion investment in upgrading the Hobart class combat management system will create extra economic activity as well as around 300 jobs in the state.
“Conducting these sustainment projects in Osborne, on top of the building of frigates and submarines will ensure South of Australia continues to be the epicentre of naval shipbuilding in this country.”
Collins class submarine HMAS Farncomb will be the first to undergo a Life-of-Type Extension when it enters its next Full-Cycle Docking in 2026.
[ENDS]
Senator the Hon Simon Birmingham, Minister for Finance, Adelaide
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“”” Neil I asked you if you understood how D/E subs worked? The answer is no. Just say it. Every 3 days D/E subs have to snorkel to run the diesel engine. “”
When running on batteries a diesel sub is quieter than a nuc sub.
OK to recharge the batteries they have to turn on the diesel engine which sounds like a freight train.
But you say a diesel sub can run for 3 days on batteries. In some situations that should be fine. I think they can run for longer as well. Israel has Diesel subs.
Perhaps we could ask Israel to help us build diesel subs.
Also no need to be nasty
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#BREAKING: Shutting down the entire public transport system in Melbourne has FAILED. Thousands of protesters are now marching the streets of Richmond.
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You don’t need to build submarines to be able to maintain, overhaul and repair them (MRO). You need an MRO shop. Commonly done in the aviation industry where the MRO shops can’t build airliners but can keep them flying.
You need to build an MRO shop not a factory.
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“”” You need to build an MRO shop not a factory.”””
And what if you need something that cannot be repaired?? That is why Britain for example makes most of its own military stuff. In a crisis you have to be self sufficient.
Israel has diesel subs. We should ask them to help us make diesels. Apparently their subs can operate for up to a week underwater on battery power and AIP.
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Not being nasty neil. Your inability to understand is the problem. How big is Israel’s coastline, Mediterranean too shallow. No advantage for nuclear. The choggies have already said we are a nuclear target coz we say mean things to them. The idea of a submarine is so nobody knows where you are including your own people. We already have enough traitors without someone telling the enemy and that’s what the west taiwanese are, where your best defense or offense is.
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We don’t need or want the macho image nuclear subs give. Plus we need to be self sufficient.
Japan also has a diesel submarine fleet. Lets be a little different instead of always going for the biggest fastest option
Plus i would like to know whose idea it was to go with the French option??
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Fight breaks out as thousands protest vaccinations, masks and lockdowns in Brisbane
Moments after speeches claimed it was a “peaceful rally”, a fight has broken out as thousands of people protest vaccinations, masks and future lockdowns in Brisbane’s CBD.
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‘Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk’s school mate was desperate. Spiralling with suicidal thoughts while locked in hotel quarantine, his family frantically tried to get him help. But it was ignored by Queensland Health. Then he took his life.’
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@Neill
Read the Australian official announcement as I posted above at 1:16pm then come back and tell us what it says
OR
Fuck Off with your bleating.
Australia is going to have Collins Class Deisel Submarines AND Nuclear.
All done in South Australia…..
FFS.
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Neil, no-one who has a very good long-range navy runs diesels any more.
The French, Brits, and the USN all run nuclears only. That is because they are the best option: fast, with tremendous range and endurance.
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We are not France, Britain or the USA. Those 3 countries also have a nuclear power generation industry.
Why can’t we be a little different for once like Sweden and develop a unique diesel submarine??
The Japanese diesel subs sound very good. We need to be self sufficient. The Americans may not be around in a time of trouble
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“Plus i would like to know whose idea it was to go with the French option??”
That fucking wanker turdball.
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The protest against lockdowns, masks and the COVID-19 jab has drawn thousands to Brisbane’s CBD
https://twitter.com/jocelynggarcia/status/1439086015864475648?s=20
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Why can’t we be a little different for once like Sweden and develop a unique diesel submarine??
Because it’s not possible.
We don’t have submarine designers.
Even when we copied a design and buggerised it around a bit we messed it up – eg: Collins.
And no possible diesel design can have the range and endurance and ability to stay submerged forever that a nuclear does.
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Olivia Jenkins
@byoliviajenkins
Violence unfolding at #freedomrally
https://twitter.com/byoliviajenkins/status/1439069969061335041?s=20
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@Neil… or is it Bird???
You are done.
If you do not like it, then stand for parliament and change it….
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AND @Neil
who pays you for your posts here????
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Anyone who supports the right of citizens to have guns should support this group:
GUN BAN UPDATE: Minister gets over 1,000 emails – National Shooting Council
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Violence unfolding at #freedomrally
The brainwashing is deep and thorough among most of that lot.
There’s a pandemic!
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Neil.
Diesel submarines are not carbon neutral. Heading to 2050 that needs to be a major consideration.
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“”” And no possible diesel design can have the range and endurance and ability to stay submerged forever that a nuclear does. “”
So what?? There are other factors involved. What if our new nuc sub needs a spare part we do not make in Australia. And this broken part means the sub is not functional??
WE need to be self sufficient something that will not be remotely possible with a nuc sub. Not possible with a diesel either but we would be more capable of fixing a broken diesel sub than a nuc sub.
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Why can’t we be a little different for once like Sweden and develop a unique diesel submarine??
Ah yes. Sweden. Globally renowned for their submarine fleet. Everyone says ‘I’d invade Sweden and pick off all their stuff, except I’m terrified of their ‘unique’ diesel submarines, which I can hear from my own bed.’
And as not needing or wanting nukes because they’re ‘macho’ – Neil, the following is a list of what wins wars:
Toxic masculinity.
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@Neil
What would former PM John Howard do?
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Mmm, the air around here has a spring freshness about it today.
Can’t quite put my finger on the reason ….
🙂
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@Neil
I think we should be focused on Galleys.
We have heaps of unemployed to man the oars.
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Someone has to say it.
Diesel submarines are shit.
From a stealth point of view they are the equivalent of a pimp driving a pink cadillac convertible with a boot full of doof-doof speakers turned up to eleven.
Fine for puddling around and annoying the Indons but that is about it.
The diesels put our submariners in harms way just so a bunch of Foreign Affairies can swan around the cocktail party circuit proudly proclaiming “nuclear freeeeee!”
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