Open Thread – December 2023

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  1. mh says:
    December 23, 2023 at 7:23 am

    Haaretz

    Israeli soldier killed in the north from rockets from Lebanon, two Israeli soldiers killed in Gaza


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  2. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 23, 2023 at 2:49 pm

    I prefer to think that we have not lost the battle against those wanting to impose the New World Order. Every day there are individuals and groups fighting against the tyranny and winning.

    Last month
    Catholic women’s college in Indiana to consider applicants that ‘identify as women’

    Saint Mary’s College in Notre Dame, Indiana recently declared it will consider allowing biological males to attend the university if they have a history of identifying as women….

    .

    This month
    Catholic women’s college in Indiana reverses policy change allowing applicants who ‘identify as women’

    “As this last month unfolded, we lost people’s trust and unintentionally created division where we had hoped for unity,” the letter read. “For this, we are deeply sorry.

    “Taking all these factors into consideration, the Board has decided that we will return to our previous admission policy,” the president and chairperson added.


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  3. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 23, 2023 at 3:00 pm

    Following from this story earlier this week, a number of priests and bishops have stated publicly that they will not be changing the teachings of the Church to comply with the Fiducia Supplicans from the Vatican.

    Two examples from the responses of many faithful shepherds in the Church.

    1/
    Msgr Charles Pope
    Message to his parishioners
    .

    2/
    Fr. Chris Alar
    Explains That We Bless the Sinner but Cannot Bless the Sin

    Per the new Church document on blessing same-sex couples (Fiducia Supplicans), Fr. Chris explains what you need to know to adhere to the tradition and teaching of the Catholic Church.


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  4. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 23, 2023 at 3:30 pm

    In the fast paced 24/7 media cycle, it is possible to get a bit of info and believe it is the complete account. We read it, we share it.

    Sometimes, it may be the full story, and at other times it may turn out to be just a part of what happened. Unless we dig deeper, we may not know the truth.

    Two “incidents” to explain the above.

    1/
    Last month in Ireland there were some stabbings that took place in Dublin. The story made out by the leftie media was about a Deliveroo driver who was passing by on his bike and saw the attacker. He rushed in to save the victim. According to the media, the driver, Caio Benicio, was a hero. The reason for that was not only because he helped to save but because he is a migrant (Brazilian) who rushed in while the Irish stood by and watched.

    It is difficult to find the real story but I came across a few twitter posts where it seems that though Caio did went to help there were others (Irishmen) before him. One lady posted that her husband was the first, but no one was talking about him.

    Someone set up a GoFundMe for this hero Caio and it raised nearly €370,000 (around US$407,900) from the public.

    Caio Benicio has gone home to Brazil, this month, to celebrate Christmas with his family. If you look at the photo of his family, would you wonder why he has left them to work as a food delivery driver in Ireland?

    a/
    On twitter, last month

    3 men stopped the attacker yesterday, Caio was the 3rd to get involved. But it doesn’t matter to the Irish left.

    But it doesn’t matter to the Irish left. Reality doesn’t matter to these people. He wants to romanticise immigrants and insult his own people for God knows what reason.

    b/
    Dublin stabbing hero Caio Benicio hugs family on emotional return to Brazil


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  5. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 23, 2023 at 3:43 pm

    2/
    This is an amusing tale from Twitter. Took place last month.

    A poster (Jeff Cassman) on twitter responded to someone posting about the early Christmas decorations they’ve put up.

    He was joking and those who got it, played along. But some picked out one of his responses, and reacted or carried it off onto other threads and raged about it.

    Jeff Cassman

    Stop defending evil. Premature celebration of Christmas is a mortal sin before Advent. During Advent it may be a lesser evil, but should still be avoided. If only the Church would get back to her traditions and actually excommunicate offenders.

    Scroll above the link to see the post he is responding to.
    Then read the responses below – in that thread and also the sub-threads – for the entertainment.


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  6. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 23, 2023 at 3:51 pm

    I have put the Digital ID Bill as a post. It is a very important bill and it needs to get as many responses from the public as possible.

    If I have any updates or info, I will add to that thread.


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  10. mh says:
    December 23, 2023 at 9:48 pm

    Jewish humour

    Keith Woods
    @KeithWoodsYT
    Most moral army in the world

    https://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1737972059672613196?s=20


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  11. mh says:
    December 23, 2023 at 10:02 pm

    Why are so many journalists being killed in Gaza? | The Listening Post

    Al Jazeera English

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgTissWFNyI


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  12. mh says:
    December 23, 2023 at 11:30 pm

    Good episode

    Christmas Canceled in Bethlehem as Churches Mourn 20,000+ Palestinians Killed in Gaza

    Democracy Now!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkRlMV2JVVs


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  13. mh says:
    December 24, 2023 at 9:14 am

    Haaretz

    Dec 23, 2023
    RECAP: Five Israeli soldiers killed in Gaza combat, five seriously wounded; Thousands protesting in Israel to oust Netanyahu; Red Crescent says received 70 aid trucks from Egyptian Red Cross on Friday


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  15. mh says:
    December 24, 2023 at 11:09 am

    Gary Varvel toon

    The Toronto Sun apologised for publishing it because … drum roll … anti-Semitic


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  16. mh says:
    December 24, 2023 at 11:51 am

    Discussed already on this blog, however these guys do some good work

    “Just Factually Wrong”: Jewish Dem Speaks The Truth About GOP ‘Anti-Semitism’ Bill

    The Majority Report w/ Sam Seder

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xCgkzGD0A8


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  17. mh says:
    December 24, 2023 at 12:50 pm

    Dixie Chick, brown bread

    One of the founding members of the American, all-female, country music band the Dixie Chicks has died in a car crash.

    Laura Lynch, 65, was driving from El Paso in the US state of Texas to a neighbouring city Dell City, when the tragic accident occurred on Friday local time (Saturday AEDT), the musician’s cousin told TMZ.


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  18. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 24, 2023 at 2:58 pm

    Good episode

    Christmas Canceled in Bethlehem as Churches Mourn 20,000+ Palestinians Killed in Gaza

    These past 10+ weeks have been overwhelming with all the news related to the conflict. I thought I’d take a break from this Gaza war for these few days around Christmas.

    I was going to post a comment, yesterday, with the LBC clip from the deputy mayor of Jerusalem. But I decided to postpone it and will get to it this coming week.

    While Christians in the Holy Land cancel Christmas celebrations for real reasons, those in the West who have been trying to cancel Christmas, for decades, don’t mind pretending that they care about Palestine.


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  19. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 24, 2023 at 3:05 pm

    The Holy Land and Christmas

    Yet the birth of Jesus — Emmanuel (“God Is With Us”) — heralds the greatest miracle of all: humanity’s redemption from sin, purchased for us by Jesus’ sacrifice of himself on the cross at Calvary. For the Prince of Peace, no human turmoil can ever be too great to transcend.

    Christians in the Holy Land understand this, too.

    That’s why Christmas this year will be commemorated there in a muted way, but it will not be canceled.

    As Michele Burke Bowe, ambassador of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta to the Palestinian Authority, eloquently explained to Fox News, “This December will be very much like that first Christmas 2,000 years ago. No gifts, no celebrations, no fireworks or festivities — just a Babe born on a deep winter night under a bright star.”


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  21. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 24, 2023 at 3:34 pm

    🎕 ┈┈┈┈ 🎕 ┈┈┈┈ 🎕

    👼 Advent: Fourth Sunday 👼

    Fourth Candle

    .

    Veni, Veni, Emmanuel

    This Advent carol is sung here in Traditional Latin.

    In this video, if the CC (Subtitles/Captions) are not ON and if you are in a meditative mood or want the English translation, then just click the CC link.


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  22. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 24, 2023 at 3:42 pm

    🎕 ┈┈┈┈ 🎕 ┈┈┈┈ 🎕

    👼

    Ūnus
    .

    Duo
    .

    Trēs
    .


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  23. mh says:
    December 24, 2023 at 4:03 pm

    Haaretz | Israel News

    Israel-Hamas War Day 79 | IDF Names Eight Soldiers Killed in Gaza Combat on Saturday;


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  24. mh says:
    December 24, 2023 at 5:20 pm

    QLD Weather News
    No power for Christmas: Residents warned as wild storms bring 15cm hail, down trees

    Homes across Logan and parts of Brisbane could be without power on Christmas Day with authorities warning residents to think of a back-up plan after wild storms brought down powerlines and trees. Giant hail and heavy rain was also reported.


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  25. mh says:
    December 24, 2023 at 5:27 pm

    Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸
    @jacksonhinklle
    🚨🇵🇸🇮🇱 A relative of the two Christian women killed by an ISRAELI sniper in a church in Gaza says the world needs to know the truth, it was not a mistake they were MURDERED!

    https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1738728436179591254?s=20


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  26. mh says:
    December 24, 2023 at 5:56 pm

    Courier Mail

    ‘Anti-Christian’: MP’s Qantas rant

    Bob Katter has accused Qantas of being anti-Christian after claiming the national air carrier snubbed traditional Christmas carols inside of one of its prestigious business class lounges.

    In a written complaint against the airline, the independent MP said he was angered to hear no holiday music with faith-based messages while sitting in a Qantas Club during a flight delay.

    “I noticed that throughout the two hours I was there, they were playing ‘Xmas’ music,” Mr Katter said.

    “Two hours of the most un-Christmassy music I’ve ever heard.

    “Over 80 per cent of Australia’s population are generational Australians, and they were brought up on Christmas Carols.

    “It would seem then, that Qantas is anti-Christian.”


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  27. mh says:
    December 25, 2023 at 5:56 am

    Pro-Palestine protesters storm stage in Carols chaos

    Protesters have stormed Melbourne’s Carols by Candlelight stage mid-performance, snatching a microphone from hosts and chanting “children are dying in Gaza”.


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  28. mh says:
    December 25, 2023 at 6:59 am

    SO THIS IS CHRISTMAS – MOATS with George Galloway Ep 302

    George Galloway

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CoQgWWOGac


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  29. shatterzzz says:
    December 25, 2023 at 7:02 am

    “Pro-Palestine protesters storm stage in Carols chaos”

    Given this is terror related why are these protesters never charged under terrorist crime laws? ………


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  30. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 25, 2023 at 2:52 pm

    Given this is terror related why are these protesters never charged under terrorist crime laws? ………

    A protester has been arrested.

    Police have arrested a Pro-Palestine protester who interrupted the annual Carols by Candlelight in Melbourne on Sunday.

    A 21-year-old Brunswick woman was arrested and has been issued an infringement notice for carrying a controlled weapon while a second person was moved on by police.

    Another two protesters were denied entry to the event according to a statement from Victoria Police.

    It is a rantable topic. I’ll leave it for another day.


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  32. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 25, 2023 at 3:08 pm

    This editorial was written by the late Vermont Royster in 1949 and has been published in the WSJ every Christmas Eve since then, for 74 years.

    In Hoc Anno Domini – (Latin for ‘In the year of our Lord’):

    When Saul of Tarsus set out on his journey to Damascus the whole of the known world lay in bondage. There was one state, and it was Rome. There was one master for it all, and he was Tiberius Caesar.

    Everywhere there was civil order, for the arm of the Roman law was long. Everywhere there was stability, in government and in society, for the centurions saw that it was so

    But everywhere there was something else, too. There was oppression—for those who were not the friends of Tiberius Caesar. There was the tax gatherer to take the grain from the fields and the flax from the spindle to feed the legions or to fill the hungry treasury from which divine Caesar gave largess to the people. There was the impressor to find recruits for the circuses. There were executioners to quiet those whom the Emperor proscribed. What was a man for but to serve Caesar?

    There was the persecution of men who dared think differently, who heard strange voices or read strange manuscripts. There was enslavement of men whose tribes came not from Rome, disdain for those who did not have the familiar visage. And most of all, there was everywhere a contempt for human life. What, to the strong, was one man more or less in a crowded world?

    Then, of a sudden, there was a light in the world, and a man from Galilee saying, Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s and unto God the things that are God’s.

    And the voice from Galilee, which would defy Caesar, offered a new Kingdom in which each man could walk upright and bow to none but his God. Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. And he sent this gospel of the Kingdom of Man into the uttermost ends of the earth.

    So the light came into the world and the men who lived in darkness were afraid, and they tried to lower a curtain so that man would still believe salvation lay with the leaders.

    But it came to pass for a while in diverse places that the truth did set man free, although the men of darkness were offended and they tried to put out the light. The voice said, Haste ye. Walk while you have the light, lest darkness come upon you, for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth.

    Along the road to Damascus the light shone brightly. But afterward Paul of Tarsus, too, was sore afraid. He feared that other Caesars, other prophets, might one day persuade men that man was nothing save a servant unto them, that men might yield up their birthright from God for pottage and walk no more in freedom.

    Then might it come to pass that darkness would settle again over the lands and there would be a burning of books and men would think only of what they should eat and what they should wear, and would give heed only to new Caesars and to false prophets. Then might it come to pass that men would not look upward to see even a winter’s star in the East, and once more, there would be no light at all in the darkness.

    And so Paul, the apostle of the Son of Man, spoke to his brethren, the Galatians, the words he would have us remember afterward in each of the years of his Lord:

    Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ has made us free and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage

    Link to article


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  33. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 25, 2023 at 3:26 pm

    DocMorris

    Christmas ad

    The power of emotional advertising (the music, the imagery, the storytelling).


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  34. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 25, 2023 at 3:32 pm

    Neil Oliver:
    Christmas and Religion

    ‘If we forget Christmas, we forget what it means to be human’
    Neil Oliver explains why the nativity story has strong parallels to modern life.


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  35. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 25, 2023 at 4:22 pm

    Scrolling through twitter. Some messages:

    1/

    Dr Jay Bhattacharya
    The world is filled with great evil. But it is also filled with love and grace that will overcome the darkness.

    Merry Christmas, everyone!

    2/

    Dr Kat Lindley
    Growing up, I never got a Christmas present because Božić (Christmas) was the day we celebrated the birth of Jesus. If I was a good girl I got a present from Santa Claus on New Year’s. My first Christmas present was when I lived in Italy when I was 18. I found it to be so strange.

    These days expectations are different from when I was a child (long ago), presents under the tree, Santa Claus and all, but the meaning remains.

    Jesus is the reason for the season!

    “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” Isaiah 9:6

    3/
    Another had this message

    4/
    And this

    Merry Christmas everyone (say it back!)

    One of my favorite quotes to take with you into 2024:

    “Tradition is a set of solutions for which we have forgotten the problems. Throw away the solution and you get the problem back.”

    – Donald Kingsbury


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  36. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 25, 2023 at 4:34 pm

    🎅

    And in keeping with correctness – political, woke-wise or otherwise.

    One
    .

    Two
    .

    Three
    .


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  37. Old bloke says:
    December 25, 2023 at 5:55 pm

    Merry Christmas everyone, I hope that Santa has been generous to you this year.


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  38. mh says:
    December 26, 2023 at 8:56 am

    Excellent geopolitical analysis from Nick Fuentes

    https://cozy.tv/nick/replays/2023-12-23


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  39. mh says:
    December 26, 2023 at 10:23 am

    Welcome to Country speaker has just called the Australia v Pakistan Test “another Ashes Test”.


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  40. mh says:
    December 26, 2023 at 10:28 am

    Courier Paywall

    Nightmare at Xmas: Apocalyptic storms turn deadly, destroy homes, leave 110k without power

    Severe thunderstorms that pounded South East Queensland with Category 2 cyclone-strength winds on Christmas night have turned deadly, as 110,000 homes remain without power in the Gold Coast region, and three major theme parks have been forced to close.

    ***

    The ABC as usual goes missing.


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  41. mh says:
    December 26, 2023 at 6:09 pm

    Scott Ritter & Larry Johnson: Yemen Exposes US, NATO Military WEAKNESS in Red Sea

    Danny Haiphong

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQKkD9eBOCI


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  42. mh says:
    December 26, 2023 at 7:10 pm

    Why does the Christian West ignore Palestinian Christians’ plight?

    Israel may well wipe out Christian presence in Gaza as part of its genocide, and Western leaders would not care less.

    Daoud Kuttab
    Daoud Kuttab is an award-winning Palestinian journalist.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/12/25/why-does-the-christian-west-ignore-palestinian-christians-plight


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  43. mh says:
    December 27, 2023 at 8:51 am

    Haaretz

    Israel-Hamas War Day 81

    Three Soldiers Killed in Gaza, Nine Wounded in Northern Israel on Tuesday;


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  44. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 27, 2023 at 2:42 pm

    Christmas, the Conflict, and Palestinian Christians

    1/

    I wanted to take a break, for a few days, from posting about the Gaza conflict. So some of the links are from the last week.

    We have posted here several comments, links, clips related to Christians in Gaza and Israel. I have also commented on how many so-called Conservative blogs/sites that are also Christian are in full support of Israel and its actions.

    The only democracy in the Middle East.
    Israel has the right to defend itself.
    Israel should be supported.
    Hamas is a terrorist group.

    Anyone who is calling for a cease-fire is morally bankrupt**.

    I wonder whether all these Christians/conservatives/others are supporting Israel because their knowledge of the facts is limited?
    OR
    knowing most of the facts, they choose to blink and still support Israel?
    Maybe they follow the crowds, assuming that the crowd is right?

    (** Link to comment posted this month. See also comment above it.)


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  45. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 27, 2023 at 2:50 pm

    2/

    17 December
    Sniper attack-1

    This morning Israeli snipers shot and killed my two family friends in an attack on the Holy Family Catholic Church in Gaza……

    .

    17 December
    Sniper attack-2

    My mother texting with my sister, describing a horrific situation at the Holy Family Catholic Church in Gaza. israeli tanks have surrounded the church, and snipers have taken position around it, shooting at the oldest Christian community in the world

    .

    18 December
    Sniper attack-3

    Israel now say Cardinal Nichols, the Archbishop of Jerusalem and Pope Francis are lying.

    The cold blooded murder of worshipers at a Catholic Church is terrorism.

    The testimony of Mark Regev should be tested in The Hague. Put him up against the Pope.


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  46. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 27, 2023 at 2:59 pm

    3/

    This clip was included in the Democracy Now video that mh posted some days ago.

    Living here, on the other side of the world, I have learnt that there are Christians and churches in Gaza. But the Deputy Mayor of Jerusalem says that there are no Christians or churches in Gaza.

    19 December
    LBC

    ‘There are no churches in Gaza…’

    Deputy Mayor of Jerusalem Fleur Hassan-Nahoum responds to reports the IDF have targeted a Catholic Church in Gaza.


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  47. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 27, 2023 at 3:05 pm

    4/

    22 December
    Khalil Sayegh (living in the US)

    Today, I received the devastating news of the death of my father, who was among the besieged Palestinian Christians at the Holy Family Catholic Church. He died due to medical neglection and lack of access to medicine or hospitals in Gaza.

    There is nothing I wanted more than to be next to my family in Gaza, who have to grieve my father’s loss while also fighting for their survival against an enemy that normalized the usage of starvation and prevention of medical care as a weapon against civilians

    My father, Jeries Sayegh, always taught me to love everyone, forgive, and never give desire for revenge space in my life. He always looked up to Christ as his model and told me I should too. As hard and painful as it is, I promise you, Dad, to stay true to these principles.


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  48. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 27, 2023 at 3:31 pm

    5/

    Since this conflict began in October, Christians have been wounded and killed. The Israeli airstrike hit the Greek Orthodox church compound in Gaza City on Oct. 19 and killed several people sheltering in the church. One family lost 6 members, including a baby.

    After that, there have been other deaths. Add to that the sniper attack on 17 December. A small population of 1000 Christians has been further reduced by 3% according to Rev Mitri Raheb.

    In the Democracy Now interview he says that if a synagogue had been bombed in a western nation there would be an outcry and condemnation, especially from Christian leaders. Yet, this targetting of churches when there is such a small Christian population and the Israeli authorities have the identification of every church member because they are such a small community, would be hard to understand.

    Almost every day, the Australian has some Gaza conflict front page story (which is of course, pro-Israel) but I must have missed the one about the attack on the churches and the Christians who have being living in fear of being killed in airstrikes and bombing raids. Today, there is one about the fear of Jews living in Australia due to anti-semitism.

    Meanwhile in Gaza (to quote from Khalil Sayegh in the comment above)

    There is nothing I wanted more than to be next to my family in Gaza, who have to grieve my father’s loss while also fighting for their survival against an enemy that normalized the usage of starvation and prevention of medical care as a weapon against civilians


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  49. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 27, 2023 at 3:40 pm

    6/

    Now, this week, from Breitbart

    a/
    Christmas 2023 — Mary to the Angel, ‘How Will This Be, Since I Am a Virgin?’

    Christians across the world celebrate Christmas 2023 this week – the birth of Jesus Christ in Bethlehem, a town in Israel about a 45-minute modern drive east of Jerusalem

    No mention of the Christians in Bethlehem who have cancelled Christmas celebrations**. (If you’ve missed it, see video posted upthread by mh on December 23, 2023 at 11:30 pm
    Christmas Canceled in Bethlehem as Churches Mourn 20,000+ Palestinians Killed in Gaza)

    b/
    Breitbart has a separate article on Christians in India cancelling Christmas celebration due to persecutions

    c/
    And in Nigeria
    Nigerian Christians, Forgotten by the West, Face Christmas Under the Shadow of Jihadist Genocide

    (**maybe they mentioned it somewhere and I missed it.)


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  50. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 27, 2023 at 4:04 pm

    7/

    I hadn’t planned to include this today, but just came across it.

    Benjamin Netanyahu’s 3 goals for his military campaign in Gaza.

    Great to see a clear enunciation of what a military success will look like.

    Good luck in getting it done.

    It’ll mean a lot of dead Palestinians.


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  51. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 27, 2023 at 4:26 pm

    8/

    Netanyahu Sends Christmas Greetings; Wife Writes to Pope

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu issued a Christmas message on Sunday, Christmas Eve, thanking Christians around the world for their support for the Jewish state during its war against Hamas terror.

    Netanyahu said:
    To our Christian friends around the world, Merry Christmas.

    Christian friends around the world.

    For decades, Christians in the Israel-Gaza region have been persecuted. Christians have been spat on, especially when they are wearing or carrying a cross, including nuns, priests, bishops. (Links to this have been posted in the past three months, on this blog.)

    As Christians we are called to forgive those who harm or persecute us. But we are not supposed to pretend that it has not happened. Especially to others who are being persecuted.

    I have singled out the persecution and killing of Christians in this section, today, because this group has been mostly ignored by the mainstream media. There are some alternative media sites that have covered this topic.

    This is the Christmas season. I was deeply aware on Christmas day that I was here in Australia able to celebrate the birth of Christ and yet, in Bethlehem, the place where Christ was born, the celebrations would have been muted and the streets deserted.

    On the conflict in Gaza, as I have said repeatedly, I am concerned for ALL innocent civilians. There is a difference between the innocent and the terrorists. The same around the world – innocent civilians going about their lives should not face threats, intimidation or harm.

    Do people in the western world really want to know the truth?

    Or does it feel really good to choose a side and blindly support it pretending that the selected side is justified?


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  52. mh says:
    December 27, 2023 at 4:45 pm

    Palestinian Christian Pastor Slams Western Silence on Genocide in Gaza

    Democracy Now!
    1.9M subscribers

    Through the Christmas holiday, Israel continued its relentless bombardment and siege of the Gaza Strip that has seen over 20,000 Palestinians killed. In the West Bank, we speak with Reverend Munther Isaac, pastor at the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Bethlehem, which canceled Christmas festivities in the storied birthplace of Jesus to mourn the deaths in Gaza and received worldwide attention for their nativity scene depicting the baby Jesus surrounded by rubble. “Christianity started here and never ceased to exist here,” says Isaac. “This is what Christmas is in Palestine: displaced families, destroyed homes and children under the rubble.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F96OmajymIQ


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  53. mh says:
    December 27, 2023 at 6:18 pm

    Great to see a clear enunciation of what a military success will look like.

    Good luck in getting it done.

    It’ll mean a lot of dead Palestinians.

    I don’t follow Smithy. I’m reluctant to wade through his blog, but what is his take overall on the Palestine issue? He used to have a strong anti-Islam take on everything. Is he cheering on a massacre of Palestinians with those words?


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  54. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 27, 2023 at 6:37 pm

    Linked to the video mh posted above
    Palestinian Christian Pastor Slams Western Silence on Genocide in Gaza

    If you call yourself a Christian, you may want to stop and watch this video.
    17 minutes.
    Worth every second.

    Then bookmark it to watch again.

    Rev Munther Issac
    “Christ in the Rubble”:
    Palestinian Pastor Delivers Powerful Christmas Sermon from Bethlehem

    In the occupied West Bank city of Bethlehem, the birthplace of Jesus, city and church leaders canceled all Christmas festivities this year to mourn the more than 20,000 Palestinians killed in Gaza. We feature the Christmas sermon, “Christ in the Rubble: A Liturgy of Lament,” delivered Saturday by Reverend Munther Isaac at the landmark Evangelical Lutheran Church in Bethlehem, which has received international attention for a nativity scene depicting the figure of baby Jesus in a keffiyeh, surrounded by rubble.

    “If Jesus were to be born today, he would be born under the rubble in Gaza,” preached Isaac, who condemned using theology to justify Israel’s killing of innocent civilians. “If we, as Christians, are not outraged by the genocide, by the weaponization of the Bible to justify it, there is something wrong with our Christian witness, and we are compromising the credibility of our gospel message.”


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  55. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 27, 2023 at 6:44 pm

    1/
    Gaza City
    Palestinians attend Christmas Eve mass at church where they sought shelter

    Dozens of members of Gaza’s tiny Christian community held a Christmas Eve service on Sunday in the Holy Family Church in Gaza City, which they have also used as a shelter.

    It is the only Catholic Church in Gaza City and a number of Christians sought refuge in the parish when the war started and hundreds of thousands were displaced to the south of the strip.

    .

    2/
    Jerusalem
    Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem evokes Gaza suffering at Christmas Mass


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  56. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 27, 2023 at 6:55 pm

    I don’t follow Smithy. I’m reluctant to wade through his blog, but what is his take overall on the Palestine issue?

    I used to quickly skim through his blog for the articles only. But this year he has gone the way of most conservative blogs on two major topics.

    He used to have a strong anti-Islam take on everything.

    I have a fairly strong anti-Islam take. I have posted many, many comments and will continue to do so. I even wrote a post on that subject.

    But what is happening in Palestine (excluding their “activist supporters” around the world) is a different matter – if one takes the trouble to dig up the truth.

    Is he cheering on a massacre of Palestinians with those words?

    I don’t know what he means.


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  57. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 27, 2023 at 7:19 pm

    That other topic which so-called conservative media and influencers have been covering without any regard for the truth or objective reporting, this year, has been the US Elections 2024.

    In the next six months, the GOP and its voters will make a decision.
    In the meantime …

    November 2023
    Thanksgiving

    The day for thanks and gratitude.
    Or maybe not.
    .

    December 2023
    Christmas Day

    C-Day-1
    .

    C-Day-2
    .

    The day for peace and goodwill.
    Or maybe not.

    It’s about
    Me.ME.ME.Me.Me.Me.Me.ME.ME.ME.ME.Me.Me.ME.ME

    (If either the Thanksgiving or Christmas clips were fake/photo-shopped, there would be a Community Note attached.)


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  58. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 27, 2023 at 7:24 pm

    In the days before Christmas:
    Pre-C-Day-1
    .

    Pre-C-Day-2
    .

    And a flashback to
    Easter


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  59. mh says:
    December 27, 2023 at 7:35 pm

    I had a look at Smithy’s site.
    Looks like Sky News standard fare.
    ***
    My views began changing following Trump’s run for the Presidency in 2015. Then there was the ‘pandemic’ and the compulsory vaccine which I refused leading to all the punishments by the state. The Ukraine war – which I understood from the beginning was another US proxy war and saw straight through the propaganda. WEF. America’s total capture by Zionists.

    When I view ‘conservative’ sites or channels they have stayed EXACTLY the same. Maybe that is the nature of conservatives.


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  60. mh says:
    December 27, 2023 at 8:04 pm

    The Age

    Australian men killed in Lebanon after suspected air strike

    Courier Mail

    Aussie brothers killed in Lebanon ‘airstrike’

    Why can’t they say killed in Israeli airstrike?


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  61. mh says:
    December 27, 2023 at 11:07 pm

    Maybe Michael Smith wants the Palestinians killed so they don’t end up here:

    Report: Netanyahu Looking for Countries to ‘Absorb’ Ethnically Cleansed Palestinians

    Chris Menahan
    InformationLiberation
    Dec. 27, 2023

    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=64202


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  63. mh says:
    December 28, 2023 at 9:09 am

    Streaming now

    THE ONE ABOUT ISRAEL – MOATS with George Galloway Ep 303

    George Galloway
    351K subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvkJeLs14Ew


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  64. mh says:
    December 28, 2023 at 10:03 am

    No Learjet for you!

    Christ under the Rubble. Lutheran Christmas Church Bethlehem

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-1brSPn66w


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  65. mh says:
    December 28, 2023 at 10:28 am

    Netanyahu’s HORRIFYING Christmas Wish!

    The Jimmy Dore Show
    1.28M subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdZcjAgY4NY


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  66. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 28, 2023 at 6:46 pm

    Report: Netanyahu Looking for Countries to ‘Absorb’ Ethnically Cleansed Palestinians

    Chris Menahan

    The comments in reply to the article list some of the “conservative” sites that have fallen.

    This Zionist con (in the Gaza conflict) and the Trump-is-god con (for the GOP Primaries) are the two current psyops where we can identify the real Conservative sites.

    The ones who believe that Truth and Free Speech matter above all else,
    vs
    the ones who are controlled opposition parroting the prescribed agenda.

    The Hidden Truth: Israel’s Sinister Scheme Revealed!

    In a groundbreaking revelation, it has become apparent that Hamas was orchestrated by Israel as its clandestine “military arm” in a grand plot to instigate a global conflict…..

    Hamas, the Zionist bogeyman, is in reality a Zionist corporation registered in Israel in 1978


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  67. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 28, 2023 at 6:57 pm

    Weekly reminder

    Digital ID Bill 2023 – deadline 19 January 2024

    If you have already signed the petition, would it be possible to convince at least one other person to do so?


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  68. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 28, 2023 at 7:04 pm

    What could happen if we just stopped oil? Six billion might die

    But what would happen if we literally just stopped oil tomorrow and did without the natural resources on which the world, its economies and populations depend? The answer: most likely six billion people would die within a year.

    I am going to assume the “oil” in Just Stop Oil means fossil fuels – so oil, gas and coal. I am also going to assume that we have today’s technological knowledge and infrastructure, so we are talking about stopping fossil fuels now, not at some unspecified time in the future.


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  69. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 28, 2023 at 7:14 pm

    China: 15-min city
    Apartment building in China’s 15-min city

    1/
    Residential rules
    .

    2/
    Mandatory facial recognition
    .

    3/
    Gated compounds
    .


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  71. mh says:
    December 28, 2023 at 9:53 pm

    Larry Johnson: Israeli Military Superiority is a Myth.

    Judge Napolitano – Judging Freedom
    255K subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwWPA1VRDyY&t=81s


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  72. mh says:
    December 28, 2023 at 11:12 pm

    I’m surprised this guy is on YouTube

    It’s complicated

    Tadhg Hickey

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71knegFxJRQ


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  73. mh says:
    December 29, 2023 at 10:01 am

    The Age

    The US has formed the 20-nation Operation Prosperity Guardian to protect the Suez Canal and limit supply chain shocks, but Australia’s decision to send personnel rather than a frigate has been savaged by the Coalition.

    Dutton told this masthead the Albanese government’s decision represented a “weak and incompetent” abandonment of our allies and noted that 12 per cent of global trade ran through the area.

    Dutton has this one slightly wrong.
    Australia is joining our allies in abandoning Operation Prosperity Guardian:

    Red Sea Task Force: No Red Sea Nation, Deserting European Allies | US’ Anti-Houthi Group In Tatters?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6maT2nYmQTM


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  74. mh says:
    December 29, 2023 at 6:14 pm

    Israel’s Xmas Message from Stephen Fry vs Alexei Sayle’s alternative!

    KernowDamo
    19.9K subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2CnvtkQUhs


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  75. mh says:
    December 30, 2023 at 9:31 am

    INTEL-Roundtable w/ McGovern & Johnson: Should the CIA be Dismantled?

    Judge Napolitano – Judging Freedom
    256K subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIx9VqDWP_I


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  76. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 30, 2023 at 2:44 pm

    Australian government whistleblower on

    The Net Zero scam


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  77. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 30, 2023 at 2:49 pm

    Childhood vaccinations

    The debacle that is the Covid shot has given rise to a pivotal moment whereby the world is now ready to face the tragic reality of the risks associated with the childhood vaccination schedule.

    Dr Andrew Wakefield for many years a lone crusader has now been joined by some of the most esteemed doctors, McCullough, Kory and Marik in calling for serious investigation.

    Between 40-80% of parents believe their child’s autism is a result of a vaccine.

    These parents know the truth, part of them has been broken and they will never be defeated until the truth is known.

    Wakefield’s upcoming movie Protocol-7 is set to blow the lid off Big Pharma corruption and reach a wider audience.


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  78. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 30, 2023 at 2:59 pm

    From Sky News:

    a/
    An interview with Spiked Online chief political reporter Brendan O’Neill who
    has encouraged people not to be so quick to “rush to judge Israel” for doing what it thinks is right through its offensive in Gaza.

    b/
    And in another article it says:
    ‘Absolutely bananas’: Stephen Fry attacked by ‘woke mob’ over Christmas message

    If you haven’t seen the Christmas message, comment from mh, above:

    Israel’s Xmas Message from Stephen Fry vs Alexei Sayle’s alternative!

    1/
    Fry’s Alternative Christmas Message
    .

    2/
    Sayle’s Alternative Alternative Christmas Message
    .


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  79. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 30, 2023 at 3:06 pm

    With all the MSM gaslighting on this Gaza conflict, it is necessary for the alternative forces to speak up and balance the news and fake news coverage.

    It’s complicated

    Tadhg Hickey

    It gets Un-complicated in 90 seconds.

    In 125 seconds, also from Tadhg Hickey

    ‘Love, Israelly’


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  81. mh says:
    December 31, 2023 at 9:04 am

    Powerful

    Max Blumenthal: (TheGrayZone)

    Judge Napolitano – Judging Freedom
    257K subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYlAYU4r66c&t=324s


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  82. mh says:
    December 31, 2023 at 9:30 am

    South Africa files ICJ case accusing Israel of ‘genocidal acts’

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-67844551


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  83. mh says:
    December 31, 2023 at 9:45 am

    The detail in South Africa’s legal case against Israel is astonishing!

    KernowDamo
    20.3K subscribers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTX7AAGr-0c


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  84. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 31, 2023 at 3:59 pm

    I wanted to be apolitical and take a couple of days off from postings on anything in the “news”.

    But I came across one “tweet” and a bit of digging led me to a few more bits to put together. I’ll post here (arranged in a timeline) and maybe some of you who seek truth and analyse what you read will be able to see the conclusions that are obvious.

    *******

    FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation) – US

    1/
    Dec 2022
    Don Trump Jr
    FBI-1
    .

    2/
    July 2023
    Charlie Kirk
    FBI-2
    .

    3/
    Nov 2023
    FBI-3
    MAGA and Matt Gaetz
    MAGA Outraged as Republicans Give FBI $375 Million

    “I don’t believe that the FBI deserves a massive new headquarters or Washington field office…building a new headquarters would condone, reinforce and enable the Washington field office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s nefarious behavior,” Gaetz said on Wednesday.


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  85. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 31, 2023 at 4:07 pm

    4/
    Nov 2023
    Laura Loomer
    FBI-4
    .

    5/
    Nov 2023
    IG investigation
    FBI-5
    Inspector general investigating the decision to relocate FBI headquarters to Maryland
    .

    6/
    30 Dec 2023
    Donald Trump**
    FBI-6

    (** This was the tweet)


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  86. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 31, 2023 at 4:14 pm

    Back to the past – 6 years ago.

    7a/
    June 2017
    FBI-7a
    .

    7b/
    June 2017
    FBI-7b
    .

    And to the present again.

    8/
    Not sure of date – maybe this month
    FBI-8
    Fundraiser appeal – any reason will do


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  87. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 31, 2023 at 4:23 pm

    Awaiting the about-turns from ……

    – Don Jr
    – Charlie Kirk
    – Laura Loomer
    – Matt Gaetz
    – Magadonians

    ….. all declaring that, yes, FBI should have full funding of $300 million+ for
    a new and spectacular building.

    If Trump-is-god says so, it must be right.

    MAGA response


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  89. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 31, 2023 at 4:51 pm

    It’s the eve of the New Year ….

    1/
    Dougie MacLean

    Auld Lang Syne

    (With Lyrics-English Translation)

    saminnyc’s comment on the video:

    New Year’s Eve is a moment to reflect upon the year that has passed and the hopes we place in the year to come. 2023 was a difficult year with both continuing and new conflicts over geopolitics, climate and environmental concerns and other challenges that have pushed millions of people into dangerous conditions. It is hard to watch. It is harder to experience. What can one do to help?. At the very least, having compassion for others and an understanding of the oneness of humanity connecting us is important. Then take your chosen action from that perspective.


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  90. kaysee kaysee says:
    December 31, 2023 at 4:54 pm

    2/
    History lesson

    The lyrics of “Auld Lang Syne” are in the Scots language. The title, translated literally into standard English, is Old Long Since. The words can be interpreted as since long ago or for old times’ sake. The lyrics are about old friends having a drink and recalling adventures they had long ago. There is no specific reference to the new year…..

    …..The Canadian-born bandleader Guy Lombardo helped make “Auld Lang Syne” a New Year’s Eve tradition in North America. His band, the Royal Canadians, played the song at the turn of the new year in a series of popular radio (and later television) broadcasts that began on December 31, 1929, and continued for more than 30 years.


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