Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

Hi Cats,

As you can see I have created a copy of the Cat for you to continue to bicker, argue and occasionally make a reasonable point.

I do hope a solution is found with the original Cat but just in case Sinc doesn’t want to transfer the site to a new generation I have built a replica before the closure so we can migrate as many of the community across as possible.

Programming Note: I rushed out the site so there will be bugs. I can get them fixed but did not want perfection to get in the way for progress.

Community Note: Please let as many cats know of the new blog as soon as possible so we can capture the magic of the original. In particular would love for the original posters to continue their great work here.

Ideological Note: I am an infrequent poster but long time reader of the Cat. The discussions there have been a huge part of my own ideological growth on many issues. In particular free speech is key for me so will have a very similar light touch to the original Cat, potentially adopting my one policy on an earlier forum I built: “No D***heads” which is subjective but surprisingly easy to implement.

Website Note: I will run the Cat as close to possible as the original because I don’t believe in re-inventing the wheel. However if the community so wants I am happy to make changes to improve the experience so if you have any ideas let me know. For anything specific hit me up at the contact form, else go nuts in the comments.

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3,112 Responses to Potentially The New Cat – First Open Thread 31 July 2021

  1. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “I’m out.”

    What do you mean? Don’t go away.


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  2. Adam P says:

    I am not the most excellent Adam that set up this site, although I do have to double take at all the ‘thank you, Adam’s’. Makes me feel like doing a royal wave.

    srr, glad you like my humble scribblings.


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  3. jupes says:

    Defence has set out a four-year process to reform ADF culture and command accountability, weed out wrongdoers and strip medals from unworthy recipients, in its long-awaited response to the Brereton war crimes inquiry.

    The fuckwits double down.

    What was the point of Peter Dutton again?


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  4. Gab says:

    Test from mobile


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  5. cohenite says:

    The only solution available now short of street riots and armed insurrection is next election (assuming there is one), number the sitting member last in the HoR, if they represent the Liberal, Labor or National parties. Number whoever you like number one, and list preferences in whatever way you choose, just so long as the sitting Liberal, labor or National is LAST.

    I sympathise with this view but it ignores the fact there are some very good sitting LNP members:

    Matt Canavan
    Amanda Stoker
    Peter Dutton
    Claire Chandler
    Concetta Fierravanti-Wells
    Gerard Rennick
    BJ
    And hopefully soon Jacinta

    Not many I know, especially since Kelly has gone and Christiansen and Flint will soon follow.

    Anyway here is the latest Shit Towns rankings:

    https://www.facebook.com/shittownsofaustralia/posts/1230592284042571?notif_id=1627649113736996&notif_t=page_highlights&ref=notif

    They went fucking woke about the guy hitting the horse, allegedly, and are coping flak for that bullshit.


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  6. srr says:

    Adam P, I’m happy to see that you continue to have a thoughtful audience after all this time. It’s a testament to the quality of your writing.


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  7. struth says:

    Hope all is going well with you Adam P, way over there.
    A word of advice.
    DON’T COME HOME , WE’RE FOOOOOOOKED.
    Not that you probably could anyway!!!


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  8. cohenite says:

    although I do have to double take at all the ‘thank you, Adam’s’. Makes me feel like doing a royal wave.

    Enjoy it while you can; it won’t last. This pack of alley cats would bite their own tails off to prove a point or principle.


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  9. struth says:

    Cohenite, they are all useless.
    They are party hacks.
    Even Jacinta last night declared that people should not be working with vaccinated oldies if they themselves are not vaccinated.
    This is a psychological war and members of the Liberal party by means of being members, prove they are not mentally fit for the fight.
    They are without principle and conviction in the necessary areas to secure our freedom, they’ll in fact increase our persecution.


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  10. mh says:

    Adam P, which country do you currently live in?


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  11. johannna says:

    Just been reading some US news and find that several large unions, including public sector unions, are telling power crazy legislators and health bureaucrats to back up on mandating injections for all workers in certain workplaces.

    (I’ve decided that using the word ‘vaccinations’ is incorrect terminology.)

    The unions are saying – this is not in our agreement, nothing is going to happen until you talk to us.

    Now, it may be that they will cave and sell out their members. But at least they are going through the motions.

    We have not had a peep from those corrupt wastes of space who purport to represent the interests of Australian workers.


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  12. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:

    Has anyone seen Top Ender?

    Winston Smith & Top Ender’s (brief) exchange of ideas re Operation SeaLion: what if..? is to the point & has refreshing concise gravitas, on a thread full of squabbling, illuminati/juice references and admonishments/warnings over posting about illuminati/juice conspiracies.


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  13. Tom says:

    What was the point of Peter Dutton again?

    Just another politician who’s been eaten by his department. We didn’t used to notice when that happened — before unelected health bureaucrats appointed themselves rulers of our fascist Big Government economy (in the global coup d’etat against the free people of the West).


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  14. Nelson_Kidd-Players says:

    Struth, I think Doomlord 2.0’s departure was as it was said on the tin. Enough time in the saddle, moving on to other interests, and the Great Lockdown may also have pushed him a little.

    The effort to moderate new posters and sin-binned post, play whack-a-mole with trolls, deal with slowdowns and the vagaries of WordPress updates would take it’s toll on anyone. If it ceases to be fun, why continue?

    I’d love to see the original URL passed on to Adam and the old threads to be accessible if the experiment progresses that far.


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  15. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:

    I am not the most excellent Adam that set up this site, although I do have to double take at all the ‘thank you, Adam’s’.

    Cheers Adam.
    Lap up the glory by making an early guest post.

    (Somebody should start some guest posts off – to bulk the site out a bit)


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  16. srr says:

    Matt Couch
    @RealMattCouch 40m
    ·
    “No one should be able to take the masking seriously until you see biohazard bins at every business and street corner in America..

    They think you’re stupid America… Don’t prove them right..”


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  17. rocinante says:

    “sympathise with this view but it ignores the fact there are some very good sitting LNP members:”
    ———————————–
    How about you email each of your “very good sitting members”, and ask them how they voted on –

    The Cash Restrictions Bill 2019.

    The various banking amendments passed in May and August 2018 that changed savings bank “depositors” into”unsecured creditors”.

    The laws passed earlier this year providing for the jailing of doctors who do not cooperate with the Australian Immunisation Register (AIR) listing everybody who has, and doesn’t have, the Covid “vaccinations”.

    Come back and tell us how you fared. Then I’ll give you some more.


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  18. mh says:

    ‘Just been reading some US news and find that several large unions, including public sector unions, are telling power crazy legislators and health bureaucrats to back up on mandating injections for all workers in certain workplaces.’

    Yes, I saw the US Postal Services union was straight out of the blocks.


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  19. egg_ says:

    “What was the point of Peter Dutton again?

    Just another politician”

    +1

    Aren’t Dutton and Barndoor in lockstep with Scummo on the Frankenvax?


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  20. Cassie of Sydney says:

    Where’s LL?


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  21. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    “Tokyo Olympics: Blunder as Ukrainian shoots opponent’s target”

    The West Australian
    Tue, 3 August 2021 9:56AM
    Rory Coleman-Heard

    A Ukrainian shooter has made one of the more remarkable blunders in recent Olympic history – shooting at his opponent’s target.

    Serhiy Kulish, the 10m air rifle silver medallist in Rio and world No. 2 had cruised into the 50m air rifle final and was well-placed in fourth with 30 shots fired when his promising campaign capitulated.

    Kulish fired at the wrong target, receiving zero points.

    He was later eliminated in eighth having entered the event with high hopes of standing on the podium.

    A frank self-appraisal followed.

    “I am not happy,” Kulish fumed. “Who shoots someone else’s target? Only people like me.”

    Kulish blamed the mishap on a wardrobe malfunction, which caused him to lose concentration just before shooting.

    “The button on my jacket came undone and I felt some discomfort but time passed and I had to make a shot, so I didn’t notice I was aiming at someone else’s target,” he said.


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  22. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Aren’t Dutton and Barndoor in lockstep with Scummo on the Frankenvax?”

    I reckon they all are….except for Christensen.


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  23. cohenite says:

    Come back and tell us how you fared. Then I’ll give you some more.

    How about you tell me if you consider there is a decent sitting member from any political side. Or, if there are none, what you would consider to be a decent sitting member. I mean we have to be realistic here; if Trump is your template we’ll get nowhere since he is unique.


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  24. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:

    A Ukrainian shooter has made one of the more remarkable blunders in recent Olympic history – shooting at his opponent’s target.

    Apart from that, wonder how was his score, albeit on the wrong target?


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  25. Runnybum says:

    People keep mentioning Dutton as some sort of saviour for the SFL party, what exactly has he done recently?


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  26. Franx says:

    (Try again.)
    Agree with Johanna.
    The fungal whisperings, though, are insidious, lawful or otherwise. Site might be better off not to be a carrier of nasti spores.


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  27. twostix says:

    Aren’t Dutton and Barndoor in lockstep with Scummo on the Frankenvax?

    It’s safe to say that the Commonwealth has been absolutely battered by the state governments. So their big ‘plan’ now, rather than stick up for Australians and get us out of the mess that Scott Morrison created when he handed the premiers equal share of power as he has, is to stick a gun in our faces and tell us that we need to do exactly as the state premiers tell us and that’s a ‘win’.


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  28. Runnybum says:

    Yeah Cassie where is biggles & his side kick mini me?


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  29. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
    August 3, 2021 at 12:59 pm
    I see Birdie has the top of page position for another fine piece of anti-Semitism.

    Your thoughts, Johanna?”

    Well said Lizzie.


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  30. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Tom says:
    August 3, 2021 at 11:14 am”

    Well said Tom


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  31. rocinante says:

    cohenite says:
    August 3, 2021 at 2:04 pm

    That’s a cop out, Cohenite. I haven’t said a word about who people should vote FOR. That would require me to know details on all the candidates in every electorate. People need to do their own research and decide who they might vote FOR next election, assuming we have one.

    What I am stating clearly and firmly is that the Liberal, Labor and national Parties have well and truly sold us up shit Creek. They have done this with the full cooperation of the rank and file elected members of those parties.

    Voting for any of them just ensures more of the same, and the only way to throw a spanner in the works now is to put them LAST if they are the sitting member.


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  32. Runnybum says:

    Struth my thought on Sinc canning the site is he was leaned on, probably by trumble, don’t forget sinc was a bit of a lefty & never forget he thought trumble was potential greatness & never ever backed down from that stupidity.


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  33. jo says:

    Mak Siccar says:
    August 3, 2021 at 12:49 pm
    Another incisive analysis by James Allan.

    https://spectator.com.au/2021/07/any-conviction-politicians-out-there-hello/

    Any conviction politicians out there? Hello?
    Conservatives have been betrayed by the hollow men and women

    James Allan
    31 July 2021 Thanks Mak, Is there any politician in Australia that even had a passing thought about any of James Allan missive? We all know the answer.


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  34. twostix says:

    Real Mark Latham
    @RealMarkLatham
    Ever wondered where NSW Govt gets it’s ‘mobility data’ during the Sydney lockdown?
    LC Answer 6830 says:
    Google map searches
    Opal Card use
    And purchasing mobile phone tracking.
    Big Brother not just on our QR codes but tracking the phones themselves.

    They’re getting location data from Google and your phone providers during ‘lockdowns’. Learn to turn the phone off when out, we’re going back to 1995 baby!


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  35. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:

    …my thought on Sinc canning the site is he was leaned on, probably by trumble

    The stated reason is more plausible.
    Overseeing/moderating a blog site is a time consuming, thankless treadmill, it becomes an anvil around your neck.

    Completely understandable that he’s opted out, there’s only so much you can fit into your day.

    Sinc put in a herculean effort for more than a decade.


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  36. JMH says:

    rocinante said: “What I am stating clearly and firmly is that the Liberal, Labor and national Parties have well and truly sold us up shit Creek. They have done this with the full cooperation of the rank and file elected members of those parties.”

    In full agreement with this statement.


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  37. Dot says:

    “Bit of a lefty”

    Maybe in the gamma quadrant, but no, not here on planet earth.


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  38. Vicki says:

    “Even Jacinta last night declared that people should not be working with vaccinated oldies if they themselves are not vaccinated.”

    Cognitive dissonance abounds in all circles – even amongst otherwise smart people. What can’t they get about the fact that vaccination will NOT prevent you from subsequent infection, AND the transmission of that infection?????

    If they proposed that aged care workers should have a rapid antigen test EVERY day before entering the centres, I would whole heartedly agree – even though the test itself is far from infallible. In fact, such workers should be PCR tested regularly- even though again, the PCR itself is not infallible (far from it).

    Every day is “groundhog day” with the ridiculous debate.


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  39. JC says:

    How do you know about this:

    Overseeing/moderating a blog site is a time consuming, thankless treadmill, it becomes an anvil around your neck.

    Drills, you weren’t persactly inundated with comments on your own blog. Did some experienced blogger with a well traveled site tell you?


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  40. rocinante says:

    “They’re getting location data from Google and your phone providers during ‘lockdowns’. Learn to turn the phone off when out”
    —————————–
    Turning it off accomplishes nothing, twostix. Even turned off your phone sends out a signal every 30 seconds to maintain and triangulate its position relative to the three strongest signals available.


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  41. JC says:

    Cronkite:

    I’m really surprised with your earlier comment about Hiden and that his unpopular and very corrupt. I thought you;ve said several times how much you admire Hiden and the family. What changed your mind?


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  42. E.J. says:

    YOU MUST ACT NOW TO PROTECT YOUR PRIVACY!
    “For many years, the AVN has been trying to get a study done comparing the health of the fully vaccinated, the fully unvaccinated and the partially vaccinated using the information on the Australian Childhood Immunisation Register (ACIR) which is now called the Australian Immunisation Register (AIR). Since 2016, this register has tracked all vaccinations given to everyone in Australia.
    In our research, we have just discovered that there are plans to use this data to inform State Governments of who is and is not vaccinated for the purposes of bringing in a vaccine passport within the next 2 months.
    What we were no aware of is the fact that we can opt-out of allowing the government to share our data with any third party including sharing it with the States (it is currently held by the Federal Government) or whomever will win the tender to operate the passport system.
    Time is short since the federal government has already said they have everything ready to go for the vaccine passports and are only waiting on the States to complete their end.

    PLEASE VISIT THIS WEBSITE-
    https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/organisations/health-professionals/forms/im017

    and fill in the form IM017. It cannot be submitted online but must be printed out and mailed-we recommend you do this by express post and also if you don’t mind spending a few dollars extra, paying for the proof of delivery so you have the signature of who has received it should they claim they never got it.

    PLEASE SHARE THIS AS WIDELY AS POSSIBLE since it is urgent that we opt-out now while we still can.

    see… http://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au
    Australian Immunisation Register (AIR) -ceasing correspondence and release of information form (IM017) -Service Australia
    Use this form to advise the Australian Immunisation Register you don’t want to receive correspondence, or share information with third parties.”


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  43. m0nty says:

    It is a common misconception among conservatives that libertarians are lefties. A similar misconception is often held by the same people about the teachings of Jesus Christ. Not that Jesus was a libertarian as such, but the conservatives in both cases are projecting their fear of losing control and power in a less hierarchical ordering of society.


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  44. johanna says:

    Cassie, I have already referred to the behaviour of toddlers who poo on the floor and smear it over the walls. And to the smell of birdshit stinking the place up this morning.

    I don’t propose to feed this attention seeking behaviour any further.


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  45. JC says:

    I couldn’t understand how Afterpay could get a $33 billion valuation – having Jack Dorsey and his private equity operation make a market big for them until I heard this.

    Laybuy style of purchasing is not well known in the US and is only a tiny fraction sales done on credit arrangements. The bidders think this payment method will really take off. It sounds like a decent bet.


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  46. woolfe says:

    So whats going to happen to prevent the unjabbed mixing? If you check in with the Covid app will it access your health records and flash red?


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  47. Tom says:

    Cognitive dissonance abounds in all circles – even amongst otherwise smart people. What can’t they get about the fact that vaccination will NOT prevent you from subsequent infection, AND the transmission of that infection?????

    We’re now living in a post-modern medical world where vaccination against a disease does not prevent you from both acquiring and passing on that disease.

    In other words, the vaccine doesn’t work, but, hey *wink wink* it may stop the virus from killing you if you roll the dice.

    We can’t tell the truth about this disaster because science has been politicised by a ruling class that requires the proletariat to be in dumb compliance with its proclamations from on high.

    In other words, we’re regressing to the Middle Ages, centuries before The Enlightenment and the Industrial Revolution had even been thought of.


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  48. rocinante says:

    Thank you for reposting that AIR info, E.J.


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  49. Runnybum says:

    Dot, you probably know which quadrant as it will be close to uranus.


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  50. JC says:

    It is a common misconception among conservatives that libertarians are lefties..

    It’s not a misconception at all, Fatboy. There are left leaning libertarians. An excellent example would be Noam Chomsky .. a complete whack job.

    There are also leftwingers who pretend they’re libertarian. Bill Maher is a great example. The swine often referred to himself as libertarian until someone corrected him and requested he stop using the term to self describe as it was fraudulent.

    STFU and go eat those donuts.


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  51. Ragu says:

    I wonder how many 1000s of afterpay shares Zulu picked up.


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  52. rocinante says:

    JC says:
    August 3, 2021 at 3:00 pm

    “It is a common misconception among conservatives that libertarians are lefties..”
    ——————————————–

    Frederic Bastiat’s “The Law”
    http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html


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  53. Timothy Neilson says:

    “Not that Jesus was a li